Changeset No. Date Contributor Comment
12018-10-17 09:58:37 UTCrab Hi,
do not draw new objects over existing objects
(no "landuse=residential" inside a existing "landuse=residential", no "highway=residential" over a existing "highway=construction") Change the tagging instead. Do not tag buildings with "area=yes". ...
12018-09-28 19:07:15 UTCkreuzschnabel Hallo rab, was hat dich einklich dazu bewogen, mit ford=yes zu taggen? Lokaler Platzregen? ;-)
22018-09-28 19:45:53 UTCrab Hallo,
da hab ich mich wohl ein wenig verklickt
32018-09-29 05:44:19 UTCkreuzschnabel Lass es ruhig so, muss eh bald neu gemacht werden, wenn die Brücke steht. Aber ich fand’s lustig :)
12018-09-26 15:29:01 UTCedvac Could you please tell us the source of these 86 objects?
name=* shouldn't be used to name what un object is, but its name. So name=mosquée, name=Église or name=école (just 3 examples) is wrong.
For a mosque you should tag it as:
For ...
22018-09-28 16:53:58 UTCrab Hi edvac,
This is a typical edit by an local mapper. Therefore its is very valuable. He or she is new to OSM. I do not know what kind of edits can be done with MAPS,Me. But I guess that its functionality is very limited.
I would expect that it is not possible to edit existing objects or to add pl...
12018-08-03 15:34:38 UTCrab hi,
to me this looks more like vandalism than an improvement!
22018-08-03 19:43:57 UTCstadiaarcadia Hi rab, why does it look like vandalism? I've changed the shape of the stadium, because the shape didn't look correct before. Can you please be more specific what I did wrong according to you?
32018-08-03 22:26:49 UTCrab
Vandalism may sound a little harsh, but please, take a look into the history of this relation
I fear, you may have accidently deleted more valuable information like this in many other cases. Ideally, you should use more than one image source...
42018-08-04 04:56:52 UTCstadiaarcadia Thank you for the tips. In other cases, I added missing sports fields, missing athletics tracks, missing stadium names and missing stadiums. I drew the lines according to the aerial OSM maps :) Several large Chinese stadiums were missing for example, now they can be seen. I’m sorry if I made a...
52018-08-04 04:59:42 UTCstadiaarcadia Here you can easily check the stadiums.
12018-05-31 20:34:50 UTCrab
Müsstest du doch eigentlich kennen :).
22018-06-01 07:19:41 UTCSeelbacher Dass es sich um Hauberg handelt, war zu erkennen. Als Wanderer habe ich aber keine Aussicht erwartet. Aussicht ist ja auf dem naheliegenden Rothaarsteig Mangelware. Gerade geschlagenen Hauberg als Wald laufen zu lassen, mag von der Bewirtschaftung her korrekt sein, von der Optik nicht. Wiese ist auc...
12018-05-15 20:52:41 UTCrab You can't do landuse over landuse
(farmland over residential)
22018-05-15 21:22:15 UTCKateregga1 Thanks for the correction Rob, will see how to cut out the agricultural landuse out of the residential polygon so there is no overlap.
32018-05-16 15:48:46 UTCrab I would suggest to remove the landuse=residential tag from the boundary relation. You could draw separate polygons instead. Are this refugee camps realy that big? What happens to the native inhabitants?
42018-05-16 20:35:04 UTCKateregga1 Thanks Rob, removing the landuse residential is the right thing to do then redraw the settlement boundaries to separate them from the farmland. The refugee settlements in Uganda are that big, what happens is that the refugees in most cases are integrated within the community, you find refugee camps ...
12018-05-01 16:24:36 UTCrab Hi,
please stop this. This task is about buildings not roads. Residential roads are planed and suitable for a car. Take your time, inspect the surroundings and get a feeling for the right scale and order of things before you continue mapping.
22018-05-01 16:46:47 UTCMd Atikuzzaman Limon Dear Mr. Rab,
Thanks for your valuable comments. Sorry for my unwanted errors. In future, I will put more careful contributions on osm. Thanks again for correct me.
12018-05-01 09:06:08 UTCrab Hi,
Sat imagery is in general outdated. Especially in fast growing citys like Harare. Esri is the most recent avilable Imagery here. Thats why it is also recommented in the instructions
12018-04-28 18:04:58 UTCrab Mappingparty in the kindergarden?
12018-04-14 22:22:04 UTCrab are you local?
You may want to complain here:
You should also invalidate their tasks, There is a lot more of this rubish throughout Malawi.

22018-04-15 11:54:50 UTCrobbieflick Hi Rab, thanks for the heads up about this. Yes I am local and do a lot of cycling in the affected area. Often I find a ravine marked as a residential road, or a narrow footpath barely passable even in the dry season as an unclassified road. Very frustrating.

Is there a way to formally lodge a co...
32018-04-16 15:40:00 UTCrab Perfect,
I see you have already invalidated some tasks. When you hit the "questions and comments" tab you can directly address the project manager. By the way is the current HOT Board president. There are also different Mailing lists were such probl...
12018-04-11 12:46:41 UTCbgirardot Hi Biker69 you seem to be doing some non standard edits.

We do not usually use the name=* field to mark something a village.

That is normally the role of the place=* tag.

Also, reclassifying roads is often helpful, but you do not seem to be following Highway Tag Africa, the major reference ...
22018-04-15 11:12:12 UTCrab Its either a track or a path. And it is also close or inside a national park. So highway=unclassified would be certainly wrong.
12018-04-08 09:05:44 UTCrab revert?
22018-04-08 14:24:02 UTCDaniel Specht Yesk, thanks.
32018-04-08 14:24:16 UTCDaniel Specht Yes, that is
42018-04-08 18:18:12 UTCrab Ok its done.
12018-03-31 14:59:19 UTCrab Hallo,
warum löschst du eigentlich ständig den "boundary=protected_area" tag?
Auf der Karte verschwindet so ein Polygon nach dem anderen.
12018-02-14 19:46:36 UTCrab
There were more of this
12018-02-14 19:08:51 UTCrab Only nodes.
Looks as if something went wrong.
You should revert this.
12018-01-15 17:47:02 UTCrab School really?
12017-12-27 09:47:22 UTCrab Is it a tollbooth?
12017-12-12 20:14:13 UTCrab A building is always a building.
Drawing residential land use in rural Africa is always a subjective guesswork.
And a linear object is not always an unclassified highway.
12017-11-30 17:29:40 UTCrab Retagged as natural=water + water=reservoir
There are many of these reservoirs you can map here.
12017-11-13 16:28:33 UTCrab review_requested=yes
In order to make your edits appear on the Map please change:
Chinyanánya Business Centre:
Landuse=retail instead of area=yes
Chinyanánya Primary School:
amenity=school instead of area=yes
Tag the Soccerfield with leisure=pitch + sports=soccer.
Often it is ea...
12017-10-30 21:59:16 UTCNakaner Hi Fatisya Ilani,

are you sure that all the buildings you uploaded are buildings? looks more like a building without a roof (and is therefore not building).

Please don't forget to add the paths to the settlements. Just dumping buildings in the middle...
22017-11-01 16:21:28 UTCrab Hi Nakaner,
Buildings only is perfectly ok. There are far too many hot projects that end up with a totally broken road network.
32017-11-01 17:52:27 UTCNakaner Hi rab,

buildings only is not ok. OSM is a project to create a database for map rendering, routing and other applications. If you just trace buildings without roads, you are using OSM as a free hoster for your geospatial data. So please add the pathes which lead to the settlements or delete the b...
42017-11-02 04:54:55 UTCFatisya Ilani Yusuf Hi Michael, the donor just need building only for this project. Thank you.
52017-11-03 22:13:27 UTCrab Hi Nakaner,
If you follow the link above, you may understand that no road network is better than a bunch of wrong mapped roads. These changeset comments may also be worth reading:
As long as the bui...
12017-11-01 17:53:58 UTCrab Hallo,
Die Moritzstraße ist eine Einbahnstraße. Daher ist in diesem Fall eine zusätzliche Abbiegebeschränkung überflüssig
22017-11-03 18:38:26 UTCrab
Hier kann man Abbiegebeschränkungen direkt nach dem Hochladen testen.
32017-11-05 14:21:31 UTCLokalfuerst Hallo rab,
vielen Dank für den Hinweis und den Link. Habe die Abbiegebeschränkung wieder entfernt.
12017-10-31 22:45:25 UTCrab Hi,
you can complete this road:
or improve the accuracy of this road:
But please stop drawing nonexistant island roads.
12017-10-14 12:50:38 UTCrab noch aktuell?
22017-10-15 20:50:56 UTCPolarbear Geh hin und schau nach?
Eine Fahrtrichtung war vor zwei Monaten wieder befahrbar, wie ich in schon aktualisiert hatte. Welchen Fortschritt die andere gemacht hat, muss vor Ort überprüft werden.
32017-10-15 21:26:02 UTCPolarbear Laut VIZ Berlin gibt es dort noch Sperrungen bis 11/2017.
42017-10-18 21:02:46 UTCRoterEmil Im Moment besteht Bauphase 3, siehe: (unter "Verkehrsführung während der Bauzeit" und rechts bei den Downloads). Und wie dort beschrieben, ist es auch vor Ort, allerdings ggf. bis in den November hine...
52017-10-20 07:45:32 UTCPolarbear Zum Zeitpunkt meiner Sperreintragung waren beide Richtungen für mehrere Monate gesperrt, das hielt ich für lohnenswert.
Wenn jetzt tageweise mal die eine mal die andere Richtung offen ist, wird es kompliziert.
Ich würde einfach warten bis alles wieder befahrbar ist, nachschauen, u...
62017-10-23 08:49:43 UTCPolarbear Bei einer InAugenScheinNahme der fast fertigen Renovierung musste ich verblüfft feststellen, dass es hier keine physisch getrennten Fahrbahnen gibt, und auch nie gab, und die Spurzahl falsch war.
Hat zehn Jahre keiner gemerkt :-)
Sperrung habe...
12017-10-04 16:31:44 UTCrab Zwischen D356 und D776 sind meiner Meinung nach nur die bessern Wege als Unclassified zu betrachten (regelmässig befahren , Verbindungscharakter, mindestens 3m breit). Der Rest ist grösstenteils ein Überbleibsel aus einem HOT "buildings only" Projekt. Am besten grosszüg...
22017-10-04 16:40:18 UTCGerdP Danke für die Hinweise.
Woran erkenne ich bei Bing die besseren Wege? ImPrinzip scheint es hier je einen mehr oder weniger direkten Weg zwischen den einzelnen Häusern zu geben.
Die meisten buildings sind laut Bing okay,
bei den Straßen gibt / gab es halt jede Menge unverbundene S...
32017-10-04 16:50:38 UTCrab Ich schalte oft den Datenlayer aus und zoome dann aus der Ansicht heraus. Da erkennt man meistens die etwas wichtigeren Verbindungen. Um ein Gefühl für die Wegbreite zu bekommen, ziehe ich eine Linie über die Breite des Weges. Das Measurement plugin zeigt dann die Breite recht zuverl&...
42017-10-04 17:15:08 UTCGerdP Ok, im Prinzip verwenden wir die gleiche Methoden. Ich frage mich aber, ob es nicht eher am Untergrund liegt, ob man die Fahrspuren gut sieht oder nicht. Ich habe halt lanes=1 verwendet, weil 2 der default für unclassified ist.
Ich habe aber nichts dagegen, wenn Du die von mir geänderte...
12017-09-26 18:10:53 UTCrab It is a "buildings only" project and this Island Roads are no Help at all
22017-09-27 15:10:45 UTCLeader1 I am contributing to OSM, not just to a project. I added them because while doing validation, i have noticed that all buildings on this task were already added. And i like to add objects while doing validation. :)
I first make sure that the project's prerogatives (buildings) were respected before ...
12017-09-26 17:44:16 UTCrab Hi, please use DigitalGlobe Standard as it is the most recent imagery source here. Remove this Building because its not there anymore
And please bring the ways in order again.
Thank You
12017-09-16 17:30:26 UTCrab Requested review /tips :
If "Link Lane" is the name of the road it is fine, if it is a description use note=Link Lane
22017-09-17 09:19:34 UTCpdupreez The name of the street is Link Lane, thanks for the feedback
12017-09-16 17:25:17 UTCrab Requested review /tips :
I would use the lanes tag only when the road is divided by a painted strip. If you intended to describe the width of a road use the width tag. Example for Fairway Drive: width=6
12017-09-12 16:38:36 UTCrab funny
12017-08-12 15:40:51 UTCrab
This "House" is 18m long and 1m wide.
I guess you have no idea about the scale you are working in. Your Road tagging is also way off. Switch to JOSM and make use of all available Imagery to avoid things like this
22017-08-13 15:56:41 UTCmartinairmaps Hello rab,

The "House"(=building) you mention was interpretated by me as a Greenhouse, narrow, long- and tunnelshaped, as can frequently be encountered in Malawian agricultural projects. Apart from the poor imagery I could ofcourse be mistaken in my interpretation, but this is what I ...
12017-07-23 16:23:30 UTCpitscheplatsch Hi rab, you removed many nodes with this changeset. Why? See
22017-07-24 19:47:33 UTCrab Hi,
At the moment I do a basic validation for buildings with every changeset.
Fixing crossing buildings, area=yes tagged buildings and so on.
I also simplify round buildings, because I think that
less nodes will make future editing of larger areas more conveniant.
I do not believe, that there ...
12017-07-22 13:19:07 UTCrab
What is this good for?
Please do not upload those tile borders!
12017-07-21 20:31:16 UTCrab Please stop uploading this tile borders
12017-07-20 19:53:22 UTCrab only untagged nodes
12017-07-20 19:52:54 UTCrab only untagged nodes
12017-07-20 19:52:01 UTCrab only untagged nodes
12017-07-20 19:31:44 UTCrab
Should not been uploaded
12017-07-11 20:35:27 UTCrab overlapping buildings!!!
12017-07-11 18:57:36 UTCrab Yes there are missing buildings on the spot. But this new buildings are intersecting previously drawn buildings, due to uncorrected imagery offset.
See also task instructions:
It is by the way about buil...
12017-06-14 21:32:33 UTCrab
22017-06-14 21:46:37 UTCcalfarome Hi rab,
I have reverted my changeset. Thanks for your notification.
12017-06-07 21:09:18 UTCrab Hi,
My greatest Hobby is to delete stuff like this from time to time
12017-05-27 10:54:29 UTCrab building=roof

fix your script
22017-05-29 14:58:57 UTCpiligab Hi rab.
12017-05-15 20:05:40 UTCrab Please be more precise. Almost every building is of wrong size and shape
12017-05-07 16:50:06 UTCrab
please be more careful when deleting stuff
12017-04-26 15:56:47 UTCrab Hi,
maybe you want to close this now:
22017-05-05 18:06:07 UTCrab :-)
12017-05-02 20:40:47 UTCrab Imo these residential areas
are not representing the real land use. Map Building only, like HOT is doing elsewhere in Zimbabwe.
12017-04-27 18:04:16 UTCrab Hallo,
Bitte keine Pfade als "unclassified" taggen. Der Abstand zwischen zwei Knoten sollte auch immer so groß wie möglich sein.
Gemessen mit JOSM measurement-plugin: = ~0.6m = ~2m
12017-04-23 20:40:43 UTCrab
Why is Missing Maps/MSF operating with such outdated imagery?Please revert it to s version
22017-04-24 08:23:36 UTCpedrito1414 Thanks for spotting this, Rab... I have mapped it back.

In this area, this is the only imagery we have access to, unfortunately.
12017-04-19 19:35:17 UTCrab deleted after 5 minutes
12017-04-14 17:14:29 UTCrab Hi,
This river needs to be fixed
12017-04-14 08:10:38 UTCrab Do you have an Idea about how old this bing Images are?
22017-04-14 11:28:23 UTCrab reverted
32017-04-14 11:46:03 UTCChetan_Gowda Hey rab,
Thanks for the update. I've just loaded imagery from tasking manager. All water exists.

12017-04-14 09:46:15 UTCrab New:
12017-04-12 16:20:06 UTCrab
12017-04-11 15:40:17 UTCrab Hi bush herbert omeson,
I hope you did not delete all this roads by intent
12017-04-11 15:30:04 UTCrab River is already redrawn. Otherwise I would have reverted this Changeset too
12017-04-11 15:27:40 UTCrab
12017-04-11 15:12:57 UTCrab Why?
22017-04-21 13:06:28 UTCbush herbert omeson i probably could have closed it by mistake, sorry
12017-03-27 21:02:05 UTCrab do never tag highway=road
12017-03-27 19:39:14 UTCrab
Stop this please
22017-03-27 19:40:36 UTCrab
32017-03-27 23:38:11 UTCrussdeffner Hi @rab - I was/am confused; is there something wrong with my changeset? Or are you just alerting me to this other changest? I see you commented there, but is there now a river missing that you previously mapped? Do we need to revert (partially) that other changeset? Looks like a very new mapper tha...
12017-03-27 19:36:20 UTCrab Buildings only!
22017-03-28 07:27:41 UTCBharataHS Thank you for your contribution to OpenStreetMap and your contribution to HOT tasks is appreciated. But I observed in this changeset that you have edited a river and dragged nodes which is harmful to the map. This is the link for the feature. . I guess this...
12017-03-23 21:38:29 UTCrab
12017-03-20 18:29:39 UTCrab Tagging is wrong.
The roads are stubs without any use.
No one will fix this, because it is a building only task.
12017-03-19 18:34:14 UTCrab Hi,
you are adding on problem after another.
Please see
Stop using ID
Never connect areas with roads
22017-03-19 19:00:44 UTCian727 I'm aware of the problem being shown in your link and I am not using this method anymore in my recent edits. The whole area will be re-mapped since I consider my old edits to be un-accurate - and, like you pointed out, mapped in a wrong way.

I do not see what you mean by "Never connect areas...
32017-03-19 21:36:25 UTCrab Sorry, I was a bit in a bad mood, after I was been pointed to your Edits several times in a row.
What I meant, are polygons like this.
This Landuse - Road glueing, will make future edits extremely unconvenient. You should also avoid to draw areas of th...
42017-03-19 21:41:59 UTCian727 No problem, I see what mistakes I did. However, those areas were mapped by me almost one year ago and I can assure you that my "mapping style" has changed, especially now that I was made aware of the complications. I'm currently reworking all the super-huge areas starting from the south of...
12017-03-16 20:34:01 UTCrab These are no buildings
Please fix
12017-03-15 18:46:56 UTCrab type S to square shapes
Or try JOSM instead, as it is simply the better editor
12017-03-13 20:33:33 UTCrab
waterway=river (or stream)
12017-03-12 08:17:27 UTCrab Hi,
please draw the correct building footprints.
Do not draw residential areas inside residential areas.
Make sure that all your roads are properly connected.
Do never draw one road over another.
12017-03-07 17:34:55 UTCrab when?
12017-03-04 12:04:03 UTCrab If a track is narrower than 1m, it should not been tagged as "highway=unclassified", Not even in Africa.
22017-03-04 15:44:48 UTCVirtugon Thank you for your feedback. I'll take better notice of this in the future. Still learning and trying to apply the "rules" as stated by the OSM tasking manager.
12017-01-27 21:32:06 UTCrab
try to fix this issues, switch to JOSM to avoid this problems. Landuse residential is not a routeable area. Highways should not share nodes ...
22017-01-27 21:35:44 UTCrab
12017-01-05 20:02:59 UTCrab Hi,
what is this in reality?
12016-12-20 17:20:27 UTCrab Hi,
when deleting the members, please consider to delete the relation also.
(was meant, as explanation of my interprtation of the imagery, down there)
12016-12-18 19:12:25 UTCrab Hallo,
ich habe die Bachdurchfahrt mal etwas angepasst. Die Klassifizierung der Straßen sollte mehr nach Bedeutung als nach Aussehen erfolgen.
Eine grobe Richtschnur wäre:
12016-12-18 12:25:43 UTCrab Please check
Position of Suburbs throughout Bulawayo
12016-11-23 17:21:35 UTCrab
(overlapping landuse)
see here:
There are more of this nodes available
12016-11-21 22:10:14 UTCrab @daisygrubber
I did some comments about tagging of roads and other objects in Mwezeni here:
12016-11-19 19:03:06 UTCrab Hi,
I just compared the Mapbox background image to standard bing. It appeares that it is exactly the same image, with a different processing, plus a significant offset. Could you confirm this? (same cars at the same position)
12016-11-18 21:56:41 UTCrab
Found some pictures on their website.
Do you have more information?
12016-11-18 20:12:04 UTCrab Hello and welcome to OSM.
In which of these buildings is that office located?
Which of these roads should be named as "Faber Drive"?
Btw. are you this MSF Youtube guy of HOT task 2286?
12016-11-13 19:05:12 UTCrab "waterway=river"
12016-11-12 16:21:34 UTCrab Hallo,
Bitte nicht Flächen mit Linien (Wege) verbinden.
Grund: Dadurch wird das Arbeiten bei eventuell erforderlichen Anpassungen unnötig erschwert.
12016-11-07 16:59:23 UTCrab Hallo,
kurze Frage
Wer macht bei euch de Vorturner und welche erfahrene Mapper sind anwesend?
22016-11-08 09:30:12 UTCAndrea Jakober das war ein mapathon von österreichischem roten kreuz und msf. Vortuner kartentechnisch war jemand von missing maps und cartong, beide in englisch. Die namen weiß ich nicht. lg a
12016-11-05 22:32:40 UTCrab Hallo,
was hindert dich eigentlich daran die Straße bis zum Ende zu verfolgen? Außer Dir ist doch hier im weiteren Umkreis niemand am werkeln. Routinginseln gibt es dank HOT doch schon mehr als genug
22016-11-07 20:45:26 UTChansemann1234 Ja stimmt,
ich versuche mir in Zukunft mehr Mühe zu geben.
12016-11-04 20:06:27 UTCrab
What made you think, that this way should be tagged as "unclassified"?
12016-11-04 18:46:57 UTCrab Hi,
please draw a path only if you are able to connect it somehow to the major road network.
By uploading your changes frequently, you can ignore the tile borders if necessary. Please be aware that drawing every path, could make the map unreadable. Try to map only the paths, that have a ceartain r...
12016-11-01 17:51:52 UTCrab I can't spot no buildings here.
Please do not tag objects with area=yes
12016-10-30 22:52:26 UTCrab

imo most probably a construction site for a water pipeline, but not 100% sure
12016-10-30 09:03:53 UTCrab Project 2273 --
wasn't there enough damage done by Project 2151?
12016-10-24 16:11:27 UTCrab
one closed line + tags and it will be on the map within minutes.
Please keep adding, valuable stuff like this
12016-10-21 18:20:09 UTCrab
12016-10-21 17:50:55 UTCrab reverted,
residential area is already drawn.
12016-10-10 17:24:15 UTCrab Hi, I did some further mapping, based on your additions. Could you please check this ways for correctness?
Thanks in advance
12016-10-10 17:23:14 UTCrab Hi, I did some further mapping, based on your additions. Could you please check this ways for correctness?
Thanks in advance
12016-08-13 16:41:10 UTCrab welcome to OSM
Mupani Avenue, is this the road in front of the school? I named it so based on the address information you provided. Please check for correctness.
Is Rainbow a private operator?
12016-07-26 17:33:22 UTCrab Please add more of this stuff.
Please help also to name suburbs and villages nearby
12016-06-20 15:23:38 UTCrab Hi,
iD uses background imagery from bing by default. It is not allowed, to retrieve data from Google Earth. For large parts of Harare, you will get more recent imagery, if you switch to mapbox. Just hit the background layer button.
Your edit will be shown on the map if you draw a closed way arroun...
12016-05-26 14:29:51 UTCrab Hallo,
meiner Meinung nach sind ein großer Teil deiner Abbiegeverbote überflüssig. "no_u_turn" mit "from" und "to" zum selben Weg und Abbiegeverbote zu Einbahnstraßen hin sollten nicht eingetragen werden.
22016-05-26 15:29:01 UTCPappaBaer Gut, dass mit den Einbahnstraßen leuchtet ein, da is mir der Gaul durchgegangen... Aber ich spiele auf, die OSM als Grundlage nutzen. Und einige abbiegeverbote sind einfach in der realität so vorhanden und es soll ja soweit an der möglichkeit sein wie es geht...
32016-05-26 17:50:52 UTCrab Ok wenn das so ausgeschildert ist. Abbiegerelationen machen aber oft Probleme. Hier kann man direkt auf eventuelle Fehler prüfen:
42017-07-11 16:01:06 UTCkreuzschnabel Mit Abbiegebeschränkungen (TR) sind wir so sparsam wie möglich, weil sie das Netz verkomplizieren und in kaputten Editoren Probleme machen, wenn members aufgeteilt werden. Das heißt: Auch wenn Schilder da stehen, die falschem Abbiegen in Einbahnstraßen vorbeugen sollen, bauen w...
52017-07-11 16:36:43 UTCkreuzschnabel Grundsätzliches zum Straßen-Mapping:ßen_in_Deutschland

Tagging von Fahrstreifen:

Abbiegebeschränkungen an Einbahnstraßen:
62017-07-12 07:03:15 UTCkreuzschnabel Laut 2017er-Luftbild, das gerade reinkommt, sieht es da immer noch so aus. Hab den Bereich mal waymäßig zurückgebaut und Fahrspuren getaggt, wobei gefühlt 50 Abbiegebeschränkungen entbehrlich wurden. Und nein, so was ist nicht nur unnötig, sondern schädlich, denn ...
12016-05-06 20:55:51 UTCrab Hi,
Mapbox has updated their imagery for Harare. It is much more recent than bing now
22016-05-06 21:39:17 UTCYalCat Thanks -- just went back and updated. You're right -- big difference -- I'll make sure to use it from now on
12016-04-28 16:58:56 UTCrab Hallo,
meiner Meinung nach sollte ein Wohngebiet die Fläche eines gesamten Dorfes oder Weilers repräsentieren. Wenn es nur um einzelne verstreute Behausungen geht ist es sinnvoller die Gebäude einzeln mit building=yes zu erfassen.
12016-04-26 18:09:34 UTCrab
building=yes - the building not the plot.
Please add some names to roads and places. Keep on mapping. Zimbabwe Map needs more local knowledge
12016-04-22 17:59:28 UTCrab Do not create this mini residential areas!!!
12016-04-22 14:06:21 UTCrab waterway=riverbank
22016-04-22 14:06:59 UTCrab
12016-04-20 18:38:51 UTCrab We are working on the same tile
I have deleted several doubled buildings
22016-04-20 21:42:57 UTCagranizo Ok, sorry
12016-04-19 16:23:53 UTCrab
if its a building, it should produce some kind of shadow.
compare it with objects nearby
here are some more suspicious candidates:
12016-04-17 17:31:11 UTCrab Its building=yes
12016-04-08 21:40:16 UTCrab tertiary roads on a cemetery?
12016-04-07 15:35:49 UTCrab roads and borderlines should not be interconnected
12016-04-06 19:28:38 UTCrab Do not connect buildings with roads
12016-04-05 15:29:53 UTCrab Hi,
there is a second canadian embassy node in Harare.
Can you tell which is wrong?
22016-04-05 16:05:30 UTCDenisCarriere I did this edit a while ago using DFATD's website, if you have current information I would use that.
12016-04-04 21:12:51 UTCrab

not a tragedy :-)
12016-03-31 19:49:40 UTCrab Bing imagery was captured mid 2013
That means we dont know exactly how this area is looking like right now.
When splitting the road, you should also add "oneway=yes". (Zimbabwe is a left hand traffic country) Some roads ( must be connected to ...
12016-03-26 12:13:19 UTCrab unclassified is definitely wrong
12016-03-21 20:07:26 UTCrab Please connect this roads
22016-03-21 20:48:38 UTCnlehuby I've connected most roads but feel free to improve, I'm not used to do this.
12016-03-15 18:01:12 UTCrab What are you doing here?
Go back to your Sandbox!
12016-03-14 20:11:42 UTCrab a straight line is defined by two nodes
12016-03-13 12:04:28 UTCrab This is what i mean
this road is most likely only a driveway.
Towards the mainroad it looks like there is a kind of gate. Behind the houses it has clearly no connecting character, You should tag it as a track. You missed to connect it to the mainroad an...
12016-03-13 10:00:12 UTCrab
please look beyond the tile borders.
I hope you don't mind
12016-03-12 12:40:08 UTCrab Hello Susan,
I would like to give you some hints about interpreting Sat images and the area you are mapping.
before adding more data I would check what can be improoved on the existing Features. First most roads have an offset, because the were drawn after previous imagery. Second There is still ...
22016-03-16 20:24:37 UTCSReed If you would like to make these changes, please do so. It seems you have local knowledge. I will not be working on this Task again as I don't have the ground level knowledge you do for the Activation. I might suggest you contact the Activators to let them know of your interest in this area.
12016-03-10 15:15:59 UTCrussdeffner Hi, just a quick note - I notice this and many of your changesets don't have a comment. Please put a little description of what you did so other mappers can better understand and verify the results are what you intended. Happy Mapping!
22016-03-11 15:19:58 UTCrab "I wouldn't call them 'expert' as they still don't use changeset comments correctly after 8 years :) "

Thank you for that helpfull comment
12016-03-07 15:46:16 UTCrab

a busstop ??
22016-03-09 18:13:39 UTCRonor Well it look like one for me.
32016-03-10 20:17:36 UTCrab
You came back and corrected it yourself.
That's great!
12016-03-06 12:13:33 UTCrab Use JOSM!
estimate the width of the roads with the measurement plugin.
Tag every road less than 2m as path. Apply "simplify way" to get rid of superfluous nodes
12016-03-04 19:28:08 UTCrab It will appear on the map when you add a landuse tag.
for exsample
12016-01-30 22:48:19 UTCrab Hi, josm should tell you, that it is not correct to place a building node inside a building way. Why can't you use "addr:housenumber", as everywhere else in the world and also in Dvizarasekwa?
22016-01-31 12:47:42 UTCThomas Hills Hi @rab,

Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I shouldn't have put the nodes within the actual buildings. I will move them.

Just a bit of context - we have some survey field papers that we are trying to load into OSM. Unfortunately we were unable to get all of Epworth surveyed but we are trying to di...
32016-01-31 13:06:15 UTCThomas Hills Also, I think I'll remove the building=residential tag from the nodes, since it's the plot rather than the building being tagged.
42016-01-31 13:43:55 UTCrab Thomas,
as far as I understand the wiki addr:housenumber can either be used in conjunction with addr:street or addr:place, in case the street name is not a part of the address.
When using the building tag we will get a wrong counting for buildings and with the name tag we would run into conflicts ...
52016-01-31 14:15:34 UTCThomas Hills Righto - I'll get on that. It might take me a while (I'm writing up a thesis at the moment...) but I'll keep inputting data from the surveys and also go back and standardise the rest. Shouldn't be too difficult with an overpass turbo command.

Thanks for your help!
12016-01-30 18:57:54 UTCrab switch background layer to mapbox or Digital Globe as recommended here:
when mapping arround Guro. This bright bing pixel is most likely only a small cloud.
12016-01-26 19:09:48 UTCrab please add a place tag
(place=village or place=hamlet)
22016-10-07 09:35:38 UTCNya Mwe Ok great
12016-01-26 19:06:35 UTCrab please use amenity=school instead of area=yes and your edit will appear on the map
22016-10-07 09:30:47 UTCNya Mwe Thanks
12015-12-22 21:13:11 UTCrab are you doing this with intend?
12015-12-13 18:45:36 UTCrab Hallo,
Wendeverbote bei denen ein Weg sowohl "from" als auch "to" ist, würde ich nicht erfassen Du wirst keinen Router finden der dir an dieser Stelle ein Wenden empfiehlt.
22015-12-14 19:29:33 UTCvfralex1977 OK. Meinst du, ich soll das nochmal anpassen oder so lassen?
12015-12-07 18:01:15 UTCrab Hi,
this way ( looks imo more like a path.
In case that the bing imagery is outdated, could you please ad add a note tag.
12015-11-12 16:51:27 UTCrab Hi,
imo this ways should be tagged as highway=path or highway=service + service=driveway. Also, every highway=* should be connected at least with one end to the road grid.
12015-10-14 18:54:36 UTCrab Hi,
is this realy a secondary road?
12015-10-08 16:51:46 UTCrab Abbiegespuren werden nicht als separate Wege gemapt
12015-10-08 15:59:39 UTCrab Hallo,
lass doch bitte diese unnötigen Wendeverbote weg
12015-08-01 15:50:20 UTCrab Hallo,
ich habe noch diesen Weg hier nachgetragen
Kannst du nochmal nachschauen ob das so richtig ist?
Anderenfalls müsste hier noch ein oneway eingetragen werden
22015-08-01 16:48:19 UTCself Hi,

danke! Ich denke das wird so richtig sein wie du es gemacht hast. Kam noch nicht dazu die Strecke nochmal abzufahren. Werde beim nächstem mal drauf achten.


12015-07-22 17:15:40 UTCrab
12015-07-15 13:21:53 UTCrab
This are no buildings!
Don´t attach areas to roads!
If you like to add adresses here then follow this instructions:
12015-07-02 10:22:33 UTCMKnight living-street hat kein maxspeed, steht da wirklich ein 10kmh-schild? Eher nicht.
22015-07-07 17:05:41 UTCrab Hallo KaiserFranz,
ich finde es gut das du hier weiter weiter machst. Die Reduzierung der Höchtgeschwindigkeit auf 10 Km/h war zwar im Prinzip eine Verbesserung, richtig wäre es jedoch den tag ganz zu entfernen. Da mit highway =living_street, bereits automatisch ein Vmax=7Km/h gesetzt ist...
12015-07-01 16:21:39 UTCrab Hi,
the older version of this reservoir was named "Upper Umguza Dam". Please add this tag again, if it was done by accident.
Thank you
22015-07-03 15:21:30 UTCTom Layo Hi Rab,

I fixed my mistake, and thank you for noticing it. Do you live in Zimbabwe? I have lots of questions if you do. All the best to you and thanks again.

12015-06-18 15:28:01 UTCrab Dont do that!
Nobody will be able to maintain this many relations, as you would need there . Use adress nodes, or add this data to the buildings instead. When mapped this way, your adresses will be also searchable by common navigation apps, as a benefit.
12015-06-10 20:03:50 UTCohligser Hallo rab,
Du hast vor einigen Monaten u.a. die Kreuzung Schlagbaum verändert. Dabei hast Du eine Menge Abbiegespuren und "placements" platziert.
Nun passen u.a. die Buslinien nicht, es besteht Anpassungsbedarf.
Ich fand den Graph vorher übersichtlicher und zur Realität p...
22015-06-11 16:29:48 UTCrab Hallo Christian,
Die Trennung der Fahrbahn ist zugegebenermaßen nur aufgemalt.
Mich hatten seiner Zeit aber die spitzen Winkel beim links Abbiegen gestört.
Ich habe die beiden Wege jetzt wieder entfernt.
12015-06-03 15:17:25 UTCrab Hi SheSoza
highway=residential should be suitable for cars.
As long, as the bing imagery for this area is not outdated, then this way must be tagged as Path.
Please see
12015-05-24 10:36:20 UTCrab
Die Relation könnte man eigentlich löschen. Postleitzahlgebiete sind mittlerweile flächendeckend anders gelöst.
12015-05-24 09:34:20 UTCrab Hallo,
kannst du dir die Abbiegebeschränkung noch mal ansehen?
Der "to" Weg ist nicht gerade aus sondern nach rechts.
12015-04-24 19:54:19 UTCrab Hallo,
ich bin mal davon ausgegangen das man hier nur aus Richtung Goddert einfahren kann und beim Ausfahren nach rechts Richtung Selters abbiegen muß. Trifft das zu ?
22015-04-27 13:46:30 UTCHarald Konopka Exakt. Einfahrt nur aus Richtung Goddert, Ausfahrt nur in Richtung Selters
12015-04-23 17:12:12 UTCrab Hallo,
die Richtung der Einbahnstraßen kann so eigentlich nicht stimmen.
Wahrscheinlich müssen auch noch Abbiegebeschränkungen nachgetragen werden
22015-04-23 18:14:48 UTCma-rt-in ja stimmt. Machst du das? :)
32015-04-24 18:32:07 UTCrab so stimmts hoffentlich
12015-04-03 12:25:41 UTCrab Wenn du das Routing verbessern willst dann solltest du
1. einen richtigen Editor verwenden (Josm).
2. Keine Wege einzeichnen die in Wahrheit nicht vorhanden sind. ( und
3. Im Wiki die Artikel zu Abbiegebeschr...
22015-04-04 11:27:58 UTCNakaner Lieber KaiserFranz, ich habe schon eine Vielzahl deiner Änderungen revertiert und werde auch künftige Änderungen von dir revertieren, wenn sie diversen Regeln nicht genügen, die beim Mappen gelten. ############ 1. Separate Fahrbahnen und Abbiegespuren werden in OSM nur eingetrag...
32015-04-04 12:52:39 UTCNakaner @rab: Ich habe KaiserFranz gerade eine PN gesendet. Wenn das nicht fruchtet, geht die Mail an die DWG raus.
12015-03-28 15:45:03 UTCrab Hallo,
du hast hier diese Relation angelegt.
Bei dem "from" Weg ist aber eine Rechtsabbiegespur eingetragen. Dieser Widerspruch sollte bei Gelegenheit mal aufgelöst werden.
12015-03-01 14:13:13 UTCrab Hallo,
Deine "no_u_turn" Relationen werden alle von Keepright bemängelt. Ich finde es auch übertrieben an jedes Wegende eine Relation zu setzen
12015-02-22 11:13:22 UTCluschi ist die immer noch construction?
22015-02-22 11:30:42 UTCrab Ja leider,,1cd20c70-907b-3941-f012-f312b417c0cf,,,11111111-2222-3333-4444-100000005004%26_ic_uCon_zentral=1cd20c70-907b-3941-f012-f312b417c0cf%26overview=true.htm&uid=c8a30b1f-3a...
12015-01-30 09:36:53 UTCrab Halt!
Spuren werden nicht als Wege gemapt. Bitte rückgängig machen.
12015-01-23 23:28:46 UTCrab Hallo,
hast du etwa ein no_right_turn in die Hubertstraße gemeint?
Diese Beschränkung ist allerdings schon doppelt vorhanden. Josm könnte dir da mit dem eingebauten Validator ...
12015-01-09 23:34:24 UTCrab Hallo,
mit deiner Aufräumaktion liegst du nicht ganz richtig.
Schau dir das doch in Josm, mit aktiviertem Zeichenstil "lane and road attributes" noch mal an
22015-01-10 09:12:38 UTCDerUnsichtbare Was genau meinst du? Ich steh' im Moment etwas auf dem Schlauch.

Bei einigen Tempolimits hab ich gestern leider geschlampt. Das habe ich nun repariert und weitere verlorengegangene Limits ergänzt. Desweiteren waren Fahrspuren kaputt bzw. unvollständig. Auch das habe ich korrigiert obwoh...
32015-01-10 10:18:39 UTCrab Mein Fehler,
ich habe mich hauptsächich auf diesen Weg bezogen
der Startpunkt war soweit nach Westen verschoben das von der eigentlichen Abbigespur nur noch ein ganz kurzes Stück übrig war. Das gehört allerdings zu einem ganz ...
12015-01-04 18:57:02 UTCchattiewoman Hi, du scheinst dich damals bei der Abbiegevorschrift vertan zu haben - könntest du das nochmal korrigieren? Ich kann aus der Ferne leider nicht beurteilen, wie es gemeint war.
22015-01-07 18:08:12 UTCrab Hallo,
deine Abbiegebeschränkungen zeigen wirklich öfters in die falsche Richtung.
Mit keepright habe ich gerade schon mehrere geändert
12015-01-05 19:54:22 UTCrab Hallo,
du hast die L 318 hier zur Einbahnstraße gemacht.
Da hier jetzt fast alle Straßen von dir mit Flächen verbunden worden sind, wird die Bearbeitung für zukünftige Mapper ein echter Krampf werden
12015-01-02 10:44:32 UTCrab Mit Potlatch turn lanes bearbeiten geht meistens daneben
22015-01-02 10:56:25 UTCrab
Kannst du mir mal erklären wie man hier in Zukunft linkks abbiegen soll?
Das Changeset werde ich heute Abend reverten!
32015-01-02 15:50:30 UTCDerUnsichtbare Danke für den Revert!
12014-12-23 21:49:55 UTCrab Hallo,
Am nördlichen Ende stimmt mit den Oneways was nicht.
Hier muß wahrscheinlich noch ein motorroad=yes + lanes=2 drann.
Im Bereich des Tunnels fehlt auch noch lanes=2
B 256 ist nicht "name" sondern nur "ref"
22014-12-26 10:53:05 UTCwernerhxxx Stimmt. Danke fürs Ändern.
12014-12-04 10:53:40 UTCrab
12014-11-21 23:16:17 UTCrab Hallo,
der "name" tag soll eigentlich nicht in dieser Weise verwendet werden.
Für den Rothaarsteig gibt es eine Routenrealtion.
Auf geeigneten Karten wird das auch ensprechend gerendert.
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