Changeset No. Date Contributor Comment
12017-04-17 12:12:48 UTCchillly This is a controversial mass edit by a recently-joined editor. I think this needs to be discussed before such a change. I suggest this is reverted.

Why have you made such a change? (Please reply - we need to understand what you are doing)
22017-04-17 12:13:33 UTCDerick Rethans Hi, and welcome to OpenStreetMap. I see you're a new mapper (5 edits), and you've decided to change town/suburb classfications around London. This is a controversial move, and should have been discussed on the talk-gb and talk-gb-london mailinglist first.

cheers,
Derick
32017-04-17 12:28:59 UTCSK53 Revision of place tags on London suburbs MUST be discussed beforehand. The current values represent a consensus of mappers and users over the past 12+ years. I have reverted this and your 4 similar changesets.
42017-04-17 23:19:02 UTCPyorot Hi, thanks for describing your policy.

I made the changes in order to make the map work with OSM's Nominatim service. This is an API that takes coordinates as input and returns addresses. Suburbs of London labelled as towns *do not get returned* by Nominatim, presumably because it trumps them wit...
52017-04-18 09:37:32 UTCSK53 Thank you. I know perfectly well what Nominatim is: the current maintainer is a friend.

For this sort of issue you should be filing issues on the Nominatim github pages https://github.com/openstreetmap/Nominatim/issues. I suspect that the issue is known, but we have too few developers and maintai...
62017-04-18 14:45:51 UTCPyorot I deduced based on the fact that Nominatim doesn't return town info in London and based on the usage info given here (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dsuburb ; http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dtown) that suburbs in Greater London should be tagged "suburb" and no...
72017-04-18 14:49:57 UTCPyorot Actually, sorry, I forgot to mention that part of the reason I'm put off from engaging in discussions is that your note gives an example of such a discussion that took over a year to close.
82017-04-18 16:41:27 UTCSK53 We do have an important principle in OSM: respect for fellow contributors. You are distinctly failing to show that respect to me or others. Quite frankly I think we are better off without your arrogant attitude and unwillingness to collaborate.

The reason why the note has not been cleared is that...
92017-04-18 19:54:21 UTCPyorot You think it's arrogant to not engage in a discussion? Do you have infinite time? Or did you take my characterisation of the state of suburbs as "idleness" personally?

Either way, your accusation of disrespect and arrogance, bundled with the mischaracterisation of my opinion, use of the...
12017-04-17 12:28:44 UTCSK53 Revision of place tags on London suburbs MUST be discussed beforehand. The current values represent a consensus of mappers and users over the past 12+ years. I have reverted this and your 4 similar changesets.
12017-04-17 12:28:32 UTCSK53 Revision of place tags on London suburbs MUST be discussed beforehand. The current values represent a consensus of mappers and users over the past 12+ years. I have reverted this and your 4 similar changesets.
12017-04-17 12:16:17 UTCSK53 Undiscussed major change. Will be reverted.
22017-04-17 12:27:50 UTCSK53 Revision of place tags on London suburbs MUST be discussed beforehand. The current values represent a consensus of mappers and users over the past 12+ years. I have reverted this and your 4 similar changesets. In this one you also changed Ilford's name to "suburb"
12017-04-17 12:26:42 UTCSK53 Revision of place tags on London suburbs MUST be discussed beforehand. The current values represent a consensus of mappers and users over the past 12+ years. I have reverted this and your 4 similar changesets.
12017-04-17 11:57:38 UTCSK53 I've further tweaked this by squaring the corners of the building (all editors provide an option to do this, in the one you used it's the rectangle option or shortcut key "S"). I'm afraid a lot of the houses round here could do with tidying up.
12017-04-13 14:01:15 UTCchillly Welcome to OSM

I'm not sure what you are trying to do here. Why is there a link between the house on Ramsey Road to the paper on transfer western blot?

Was this an experiment that you saved witjout meaning to? Do you need any help sorting this out?
22017-04-13 15:30:54 UTCSK53 Much as I love Western Blots this has nothing whatsoever to do with OSM.
32017-04-13 17:15:04 UTCchillly reverted
12017-04-12 11:07:35 UTCSK53 I very much doubt the buildings with name=Beaconsfield Street are actually called that. I imagine the tag should be addr:street. Please do check when tweaking tags that they actually make sense!
22017-04-17 20:22:16 UTCnyuriks thanks, silly mistake, i looked at them but my mind didn't register the weirdness. Thanks for catching it!
12017-04-11 13:21:23 UTCwill_p Hi,

What is the purpose of adding an elevation for an entire city? To me this usage of the ele tag seems likely to cause confusion, because the ele tag is usually used to provide an accurate elevation at a particular point, whereas this is something much more vague. Many different heights could b...
22017-04-11 15:35:11 UTCtimwenzel98 Hi Will,

thank you for opening the discussion. The elevation for an entire city can be useful in some circumstances when using specific mobile apps (maps.me for instance), i added the official elevation of a town, each for their own measurement. It of course would be nice to have the elevation of...
32017-04-11 15:41:16 UTCSomeoneElse Hi Tim,
Where did you measure the elevation? If you didn't measure it, where did you copy the information from?
Regards,
Andy
42017-04-11 17:16:05 UTCSK53 There is no such thing as an official elevation of towns/cities in the UK. This seems to be more common in Europe and is indeed often shown on conventional topo maps. In Britain only spot heights are shown.

Adding an ele on an area is furthermore absurd. Elevations in Nottingham vary between arou...
12017-04-10 19:11:13 UTCSK53 We're a bit puzzled by these edits. Boundaries are more or less entirely mapped with relations (and particularly so in Ireland), so there is no need to add the tags to constituent ways. In fact doing so can affect how the map appears as the boundary line may be drawn twice.

In case you haven't s...
22017-04-10 19:29:51 UTCpaulatthehug Indeed the boundary is defined by relations and that certainly works for the default OSM rendering which includes showing it at sea, which we didn't want for the tiles we are building.

So we tried using the tags for a national boundary (boundary=administrative, admin_level=2 as per the wiki) and ...
32017-04-10 19:47:57 UTCSK53 Please don't do this sort of thing: it's called tagging for the renderer. There are plenty of ways of rendering the boundary only inland (which I assume is what you want to do) without altering the tagging.

At the very least you need to discuss this with the Irish OSM community at the talk-ie mai...
42017-04-10 19:57:36 UTCpaulatthehug Well, it's also called inconsistency in tagging (and not as per the wiki either).
And, just to be clear, I didn't start it: I reckon about 75% of the border was already tagged boundary=administrative, admin_level=2 before I began, unsurprisingly really as that's what the wiki says we should be doin...
52017-04-10 20:15:12 UTCrorym So there are many ways to solve the "country borders in the sea" issue. Paul Norman has written osmborder ( https://github.com/pnorman/osmborder ) software which allows you to extract the borders as linestrings and will mark if a border is maritine or not. Instead of drawing a blue map an...
62017-04-10 20:17:18 UTCpaulatthehug Thanks for your comments. I'm about to post on talk-ie about this as it's "their" border.
72017-04-10 20:41:19 UTCSK53 talk-ie covers the island: the townlands project, vice counties project and no doubt others have been island wide too.

I'd presume ways with admin_level=2 may even pre-date the use of relations for boundaries. Around 2009 tags on the way was still a common approach. Until relatively recently boun...
12017-04-04 11:11:14 UTCSK53 A couple of points: 1) it looks as if there are some duplicated relations, for instance this way https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/413106459 participates as an outer in 4 relations; 2) I suspect many, if not all, the areas mapped as water are actually dune slacks. I have a couple of photos from the ...
12017-03-23 18:13:44 UTCwill_p Hi Stan,

Last week I commented on a bridleway you added north of Kegworth (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/46882223). I received no response from you, and at the weekend I decided to survey it on the ground, because your remote mapping was clearly approximate and rather confusing in the w...
22017-03-23 21:09:49 UTCStan W Hi Will,

Apologies for not responding - I am not familiar with the concept of discussions.

While I was relying on second-hand information from one of my team of surveyors who walked the route, this does raise an issue in my mind as to the purpose of including routes on OpenStreetMap.

If we ...
32017-03-24 11:34:40 UTCwill_p Hi Stan,

There has been a lot of discussion in the past about tagging rights of way and the general consensus is that the highway tag should only be used to indicate physical characteristics and not access rules. There are separate tags available for tagging access (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/...
42017-03-24 16:00:09 UTCSomeoneElse Hi Stan, hi Will - for info https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html is on a server in Germany now, and should be able to cope with people viewing maps there (though tile scrapers would be a problem).
Best Regards,
Andy
52017-03-24 16:17:07 UTCSK53 Hi Stan,

A couple of blog posts about footpath mapping & assessing completeness of PRoW information are: https://sk53-osm.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/10-years-of-footpath-mapping-for.html and https://sk53-osm.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/looking-for-footpaths-in-hickling-notts.html might help build the ...
12017-03-23 13:25:59 UTCtrigpoint Big question, why? What is the problem you are fix? Does it need fixing?
In the case of these roundabouts, they are a single way so I would question why they are relations in the first place. But once the roundabout is split for route relations then having the name on the relation makes.perfect sen...
22017-03-23 14:00:13 UTCPolarbear I was analysing the usage of jct=roundabout on relations for a wiki discussion, please find the results here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:junction%3Droundabout#On_a_relation

type=junction (here) is only a proposal and ignored by prominent data consumers. Also, I find type=route i...
32017-03-23 14:08:01 UTCSK53 I very much doubt that the road name on these roundabouts is actually XXX roundabout, it is more likely to be the name of one of the roads (as for instance the junction of Donnington Wood Way with Celandine Road). It is the junction which carries the name not the road segments which form the junctio...
42017-03-23 23:32:56 UTCPolarbear Is there any evidence that supports the assumption that the road forming a roundabout does not carry the name of the roundabout? Is there a streetsign posted along the loop carrying the road name and not the roundabout name? I only know cases where the roundabout name is posted.
12017-03-13 18:16:22 UTCchillly This is an import, right? Where's the unique userid? Where's the wiki import page? Where's the Imports mailing list discussion?
22017-03-13 22:54:28 UTCSomeoneElse Hi Brian,
It looks like things may have got a bit ahead of themselves here.
The only list discussion that I can see for this is at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb-westmidlands/2017-March/002127.html , and that's not really a discussion as much as you saying "I'd like to imp...
32017-03-19 15:15:59 UTCpigsonthewing Other issues are already being discussed elsewhere, but "Betula sp" (strictly, with italicised "Betula" and period in "sp.") is the correct taxonomic designation for a specimen of the genus Betula, whose exact species is not known.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speci...
42017-03-19 17:17:34 UTCSK53 @pigsonthewing: there is also a widely used genus tag, which is particularly appropriate for trees not identified to species (and generally useful because of the vagaries of the taxonomy of various street trees).
12017-03-14 00:53:32 UTCMike Baggaley Hi dragon tamer, I notice that you have specified access=staff on way 479717932. Whilst this is perfectly legal, it will not be recognised by any system processing the data because it is not a standard value. I suggest it would be better to put access=private (perhaps with staff entrance or similar ...
22017-03-14 13:37:33 UTCLivingWithDragons Hmm, I thought access=* (any value) was generally accepted and used, although you seem to be right that it isn't.

There was a sign declaring staff only, so access=private losses some information. Looking at the wiki documentation, I'm stuck for a better option so I'll go with that.
32017-03-16 11:21:00 UTCSK53 I generally go with access=private for staff entrances, car parks etc. I'm not sure that a specific tag for staff adds very much, but you could always look at subtagging. I doubt if anyone has tagged various lawns in Cambridge with access=master; access=fellow and access=scholar :-)
12017-03-13 13:59:11 UTCSK53 Turning circle is normally reserved for areas either at the end of the highway or along the highway which are enlarged enough for a car to turn: they are usually mapped with a node (the 115 which are not are likely errors https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/highway=turning_circle). This is someth...
22017-03-13 14:05:38 UTCzehpunktbarron Thank's, I think I've done this a few times...
Btw.: how would one map such a circular highway, which is neither a roundabout nor a turning_cycle. Simply map it as highway=residential/*? Oneway yes or no?
32017-03-13 14:20:36 UTCHjart Maybe what you have in mind is a https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmini_roundabout ?
42017-03-13 14:25:05 UTCzehpunktbarron According to the wiki a mini_roundabout should be mapped with a node and not using a circular road, as in this case.
Any ideas how this case (wich occured quite often in the mapRoulette chalange) should be mapped?
52017-03-13 15:19:24 UTCHjart Ah, I guess I had better get some fresh air and a bit of sleep :-)
I've edited it now the way I usually do these.
Maybe a new tag should be invented to prevent the maproulette challenge from flagging it again?
62017-03-13 17:20:56 UTCSK53 Operationally roundabouts determine priority at a junction: they typically need a minimum of 3 incoming & outgoing roads to be at all useful (of course there are cases with 2 roads whilst a 3rd is being built). These loops at ends of roads present no problems of this sort. I'd suggest the Maprou...
12017-03-02 12:27:29 UTCwill_p Welcome to OSM.

I see you have added a footway along Hampden Street. You have added it down the centre of the street so that it mostly shares the same nodes as the road itself (mapped as highway=residential).

Please note that we don't map pavements in this way. If you wish to indicate the pre...
22017-03-02 15:41:29 UTCSK53 Can I add that the local convention in Nottingham is definitely NOT the addition of pavements as separate ways. Adding pavements makes the data harder to maintain and may complicate routing to the point that pedestrian routing no longer works. Adding a sidewalk tag is the local convention.

Thank...
12017-03-02 15:30:17 UTCSK53 Can you please stop needlessly changing Bing to bing. It totally obscures other changes which you are making. You're changeset comments are not adequate to understand what you are doing. Please discuss this type of edit with the local community first.
22017-03-02 15:37:15 UTCSK53 Can you please stop these edits immediately you are creating bad data https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/369383412/history
32017-03-02 22:29:57 UTCPolarbear Besides the Bing issue, you are messing up county boundaries. Boundaries might be legally defined by a stream or river. Look at this example:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/71656812 was serving both as a county boundary (admin_level 6) in a boundary relation, and a waterway. It might not be idea...
42017-03-07 02:18:15 UTCPolarbear Fivemiletown edits 46526305+46525145+46523754 reverted in 46637434 and selectively restored in CS 46637891, 46639210, 46639252, 46639371, 46639474
12017-02-28 16:11:50 UTCMKnight We map for the Database and not for "the map". Should be revert.
22017-02-28 16:23:55 UTCSK53 Indeed, this is a personal judgement, based on a single use case. There are tens of use cases for the mapping of trees (including "because they are there" & no single user has any arbitrary right to override what is mapped based on a use case. As long as things can be ground truthed (f...
32017-02-28 16:34:47 UTCchillly If you want to see the map without the trees, render your own map and ignore the trees, don't delete them!

http://switch2osm.org
12017-02-27 10:49:29 UTCSK53 Can you merge tags from nodes onto your mapped ways? At the moment there area number of duplicated shops (Caffe Nero, H&M etc) and some of these have different sets of tags. I would suggest using JOSM for this rather than iD.
12017-02-16 12:33:01 UTCwille Hello John Grubb,

Thanks for your contributions! However we are not allowed to insert data in OSM from Google Earth/Maps/StreetView. The google license doesn't allow it, please use only the mapbox and bing imagery and your local knowledge.

best regards,
wille
22017-02-16 14:12:19 UTCJohn Grubb Cheers, chap...

For clarification; data isn't extracted from GE or StreetView; I just use them as a pictorial reference along with my dashcam footage and GPS fixes. I'm not actually aware of what data there is to extract from GE or SV - it's just photos, after all! Unfortunately, the source field...
32017-02-16 14:53:06 UTCSomeoneElse Hi John,
Unfortunately you can't use Google Earth or StreetView even just "as a pictorial reference".
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, OSM Data Working Group.
42017-02-16 15:20:02 UTCJohn Grubb Blimey! So, for example: browse through StreetView, see a business name has changed since it was mapped, close the browser entirely, at a later time open JOSM, change the name associated with the building and it's a © violation? Who knew...?! Apart from the obvious, who could tell either...?
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52017-02-17 11:01:20 UTCpnorman Just don't use Google at all, be it for "a pictorial reference", a "reminder" or anything else related to OSM mapping. It doesn't give you anything you're allowed to use.

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to identify what changesets used Google and undo them.

Paul Norman
Fo...
62017-02-17 11:59:37 UTCJohn Grubb That's a bind. Oh, well - c'est la vie, I s'pose.

It does raise an interesting question, though - when can something seen be unseen. To get away from the GE issue to avoid blurring: I'm an avid hiker and go off with my map and compass into the wilds to bash some hills regularly. If I were to, say...
72017-02-19 16:57:13 UTCSK53 Straightforward actually: if in doubt don't do it.

For hill elevations there are old out-of-copyright OS maps (and possibly some OS Open Data) or elevation from a GPS with a barometer etc. For business names there may be open data such as Food Hygiene, Companies House etc. The actual problem is ...
12017-02-19 16:49:07 UTCSK53 I a path is a public right of way you can add designation=public_footpath or public_bridleway etc. This helps distinguish any old path from ones which can certainly be used for country walks.

I know the original creator of the path round to the W of the cottage (although not through OSM), and wou...
22017-02-19 17:02:06 UTCcmeerw Ok, so there was a public footpath sign (on the southern side of Bucklebury Road) pointing straight to the driveway, you then get to a sign saying "private" on that driveway, but with a yellow "public footpath" arrow pointing to that path I have added east of the property.
12017-02-15 10:01:36 UTCSK53 Suspect it's time that some of these Pensic War nodes etc need to be removed! (presumably from 2011 event)
12017-02-09 08:19:31 UTCBCNorwich Hello, I just wanted to let you know that you are, probably inadvertently, making a lot of self intersection on the various types of areas you map.
22017-02-09 08:24:17 UTCBCNorwich Also a field or fields tagged show the land usage is better described as landuse=farmland.

To tag an area landuse=farm is really describing the area as a place (a farm in OSM is usually a place).
32017-02-12 16:52:14 UTCSK53 @BCNorwich: this latter statement is incorrect. landuse=farm predates use of landuse=farmland but got used for farmyards. It was therefore decided that a clearer distinction was needed, hence farmland and farmyard. place=farm is something different and should largely be avoided in most parts of Brit...
42017-02-12 18:43:45 UTCDyserth Hi BCNorwich - I'm not sure what you mean by self intersection but I presume its where a way goes back on itself. I have no idea how you can find out which ways have this error either so am unable to check and correct them. As you can find them have you any hints?
Some areas around this region had ...
52017-02-12 18:57:51 UTCSK53 Hi Dyserth,

This tool is a good place to start (I've selected only the intersecting polygon option & pointed it N Wales): http://product.itoworld.com/map/109?lon=-0.17309&lat=51.53694&zoom=13.

I wrote something about these issues a long time ago, but it might still be useful as an ...
62017-02-12 19:11:35 UTCBCNorwich https://tinyurl.com/j9qlv2b
Hello Dyserth, the above link show the geometry layer of problems in OSM mapping including area intersecting points. There are several views that can be selected giving many layers of differing problems.
Yes self intersections are where an area outline doubles back on i...
12017-02-06 23:30:19 UTCLeTopographeFou See also https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_edits/LeTopographeFou#.23004_-_Typos

Thinking afterwards, this edit may have been too agressive... I hope it will not be perceived this way.
22017-02-09 21:00:45 UTCSomeoneElse I wouldn't say "aggressive", but I would say "irrelevant" - anything that parses mph speed limits is going to parse "30mph".
Also, this change is making the tidying up of some earlier problem edits much, much harder.
32017-02-09 23:21:52 UTCLeTopographeFou Yes I agree with your second sentence to better answer your first point: "30 mph" is different from "30mph" exactly because parsing (and regular expressions) can't save everyone, everywhere and everytime. This is why this is relevant at the end. Having a consistent data set helps...
42017-02-12 14:15:12 UTCSK53 The idea that by editing tags to some kind of common format will somehow make it easier for data consumers is a pernicious fallacy.

Any use of a speed limit with or without "mph" in the tag will require some form of parsing, error detection and data wrangling. For instance the 11th com...
12017-02-11 17:45:05 UTCSK53 It's a long time since I was on the Glacier des Rognons but back then the more usual way to start the Haute Route was to traverse under the seracs and the Couloir Cordelier more or less due east towards where the altiport label. This gives a less fatiguing access to the Refuge and allows to climb th...
12017-02-10 15:11:17 UTCSK53 Welcome to OpenStreetMap.

You can add the name directly to the existing area marked as a farmyard. As it stands a node with a name will not be visible or searchable. Don't worry too much about this the information is there.

Feel free to ask if you want any further advice or help.

12017-02-05 12:43:25 UTCSK53 Adding munro=no, marilyn=no etc. to anything mapped as a peak is rather pointless & just clutters up the database, and is very confusing to people not familiar with any particular class of hills. If you must also add prominence which is more generally useful (for instance for excluding the spot ...
22017-02-10 11:27:37 UTCduncaninnes I suppose this depends on your perspective. I had started improving the data on all the Munros, then moved on to Marilyns. Then decided to expand to mark all Corbetts and Grahams etc. At the start of this work it became clear that putting in munro=no was a good way of a) marking a peak out as not ...
32017-02-10 12:29:10 UTCSK53 For workflow or temporary tagging I would recommend using something like your username as a prefix thus username:munro=no. Such a scheme can also be used for something intended to be more permanent, but for which a unified tagging scheme is not present. Using a common prefix makes it much easier to ...
12017-02-09 21:03:59 UTCnaoliv Você moveu um nó da Alemanha até o Brasil...
22017-02-09 21:20:37 UTCSK53 I have reverted this edit. It reused an existing node which belonged to a street in the Netherlands and therefore created a very long residential road. This alone could possibly have cause service problems by forcing many tile re-renders.

I must ask you not to use the Level0 editor for your edit...
32017-02-20 03:49:22 UTCVerdy_p This looks more like a non-volontary move by incorrect use of the level0 editor. Occasionnaly you can see various places where nodes where dragged unexpectedly instead of copy-pasting them (sometimes this is caused by sudden mouse moves caused by defects or low battery charges in wireless mouses: th...
42017-02-20 03:52:47 UTCVerdy_p For now I see that only as first begininer edits by a new user in Brasil (and apparently speaking Brazilian Portuguese) that does not know how this project works and has not read any doc: I suggest him to visit the Wikiproject Brazil and get contact there to find training or local meetings.
12017-02-05 17:34:24 UTCSK53 You seem to have added quite a lot of trees in St James's Square Gardens. In fact rather more than my photos show. For instance there is only one large London Plane inside the circular path. Did you just use Bing to add them?
12017-02-05 09:57:59 UTCSK53 This is not appropriate data for OpenStreetMap. It also does not comply with either the Imports or Mechanical Edit policy. At one point we had calculated post code centroids from Free the Postcode but these now get removed. However this edit will certainly duplicate some of these elements.

If you...
12017-02-02 11:50:50 UTCSomeoneElse Any idea about the overlap between http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/471430341/history and http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/471430347 here?
22017-02-02 12:10:49 UTCSK53 Yes, I plan to merge them in JOSM too tedious to do in PL2!
32017-02-02 12:12:36 UTCSK53 Now done
12017-02-01 20:19:16 UTCSK53 Please dont map individual occurences of Epipactis palustris. This is not appropriate information for OSM. Additionally this uses a tagging scheme which does not follow the well-established conventional tags for plants in OSM and natural=wetland is incorrect also. Plant distributions are much better...
12017-02-01 19:06:08 UTCSK53 I'm not clear what you are doing here. For mapping things in OSM you should use OSM tags and not an entirely separate tagging scheme with a very large number of redundant elements (lat/long, province etc). You should not use name, but species or taxon which are very well understood tags. Taxon in pa...
12017-01-31 14:55:33 UTCSK53 The building tagged Ranelagh Harriers isnt really a sports centre. It's a club house. It should have some club tags.
22017-02-01 10:09:29 UTCecatmur Fixed, thanks.
32017-02-01 10:48:36 UTCSK53 Hmm, I dont really like this as amenity=community_centre! Is that what the wiki suggests, in which case it moves a long way from the usual meaning of the word in UK. Ranelagh Harriers like most sports clubs are a private members club not a community organisation. I'd suggest amenity=social_club or j...
42017-02-01 11:19:54 UTCecatmur Both amenity=social_club and amenity=club are deprecated on the wiki, it suggests that just club=* should be enough. I've removed amenity=community_centre as I think you're right that it doesn't really apply.
52017-02-01 11:35:51 UTCSK53 I dont actually care very much what the wiki says as it is often inaccurate. We certainly use amenity=social_club extensively in the East Midlands, but I do prefer to use it for places where non-members may be able to use facilities (eg. by paying a notional membership fee or by automatically be sig...
12017-01-30 13:58:09 UTCJohn Grubb I dealt with a few of these highlighted as deprecated by Keep Right! and noticed that the new tagging scheme doesn't appear to render in OSM so put the old tag back in (alongside the new one) and they were shown again, with a view to removing the old tag again when the new one renders.

Perhaps th...
22017-01-30 15:07:12 UTCSK53 AFAIK this was discussed recently either on the UK mailing list or on talk-gb. As noted by John Grubb at the very least leave the existing tags in place as these are rendered.

In general we prefer that people discuss this type of change with the local community: not everything flagged by KeepRigh...
32017-01-30 20:00:34 UTCRitterR We have to decide how to mark emergency phones in a uniform manner. So as to avoid the double determinations. The next step is a change in the style of Carto, assign icons to present a pair of emergeny=phone. Most navigation cope already with the new tagging and shows emergency=phone, which is aroun...
42017-01-30 20:08:15 UTCRitterR What is the problem? In that the emergency phone is not rendering on the osm.org map?
Two pairs of values ​​will now without modifying the style of the map display them on the map. However, if you do not change the rules of rendering is still nearly 40,000 remaining points will not appear on th...
52017-01-30 20:36:13 UTCSK53 My problem is with you making large scale mechanical edits without discussing it with the community.

12017-01-30 15:01:33 UTCSK53 Wrong comment: actually merged buildings & nodes of pub & social club to improve element legibility
12017-01-29 15:21:02 UTCSK53 Thanks for adding these details. You can connect the footpaths to the surrounding roads and then they are routable.

I'm not sure that I'd call this a park, rather a recreation ground. This is incidentally what Bradford council call it in their official data, and also give it the name Haworth Road...
22017-01-30 01:22:39 UTCWasabisaur I have tried to get in touch with Bradford council to rectify this as this meets all the criteria and definitions of a park (it contains a basketball court, a football pitch, a playground and walking footpaths) more so than a recreation ground contains. At least the one named 'Heaton park' does , th...
32017-01-30 01:24:55 UTCWasabisaur Thank you for the response anyway, I have made alterations to the previous changes. Please let me know if I have done them correctly and if I should make anymore.
42017-01-30 01:37:48 UTCWasabisaur Edit: I only connected one of the footpaths that circles around the park to the nearby road, the reason I didn't connect the two coming out from the playground is because it pushed the parks boundaries into the bus stop area. However if I should alter those aswell please let me know. Thank you.
52017-01-30 10:44:55 UTCSK53 OSM is very much about local input, something which looking at aerial images can't beat. And there certainly is a gradation between parks and recreation grounds anyway. So I'm very happy to defer to your knowledge here.

You can actually take the foopaths right to the main road. Dont actually wor...
62017-01-31 23:21:07 UTCWasabisaur Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate your trust on the matter. I have made further alterations to your specifications. I have also added additional footpaths to two locations (Haworth Road Recreation Ground and Greenwood Park) where they already exist. I also adjusted the Greenwood park boundaries...
12017-01-27 18:47:56 UTCSK53 Many thanks for this update.

Just to let you know that you can also tag this with landuse=construction and construction=residential which means exactly the same as "(under construction)". It also helps mappers because landuse=construction is always a sign to check for changes.
22017-01-29 21:47:43 UTChelengem thankyou... i'd seen in a search on map wiki that I could do this but First time editing streetmaps and just using the ID editor I couldn't see how to select a construction feature tag.
32017-01-30 10:37:56 UTCSK53 I've just tried it out, and am surprised to find that it's not directly supported in the editor. You certainly did the best thing then. I'm asking the lead developer of the editor whether they can support landuse=construction.
42017-01-30 14:12:43 UTCbhousel Hi, in iD you can draw an area and choose the "Construction" preset. It will apply the tag `landuse=construction`.
12017-01-29 16:28:42 UTCSK53 Welcome to OpenStreetMap.

I notice that you've been adding lots of footpaths in the countryside. If you are familiar with these (i.e., not using Google or similar search engine or OS Maps) it's very helpful to label those which are actually Public Rights of Way with the designation tag (see http...
12017-01-29 16:12:52 UTCSK53 Looks awfully like someone's garden (you? perhaps).

Reverted because not a park.
12017-01-29 11:32:11 UTCSK53 I'm sorry but this is incorrect. The University of Nottingham is already mapped in considerable detail and we use "university" not school. If you wish for chinese names to be added you can let me know.
12017-01-28 12:21:17 UTCSK53 Welcome to OpenStreetMap.

Parks, Playing Fields etc., are better mapped as areas rather than points.

12017-01-28 12:14:48 UTCSK53 The footpath you've added has foot=yes which overrides the general access=private. If this is just a private path for residents to access their back gardens (e.g., for dustbins etc), then it's best with just access=private. Footway implies its only accessible for pedestrians anyway.

If there are ...
12017-01-28 11:11:46 UTCSK53 Thanks, I really need to get round to adding more buildings here.
12017-01-27 16:39:28 UTCSK53 Thanks for keeping OSM up-to-date.

You may not have realised but Points of Interest can be on areas as well as points and the De Montfort Hall you added duplicates the information already on the building. I've removed this duplicate.

12017-01-27 12:41:08 UTCSK53 Welcome to OpenStreetMap, and what a good sensible way to start out.

If you want practice creating roads etc there are a couple of other things which are quite good to add without any risk are : unmapped car parks and especially the parking aisles in big car parks. There are usually always a few ...
12017-01-27 12:34:39 UTCSK53 Many thanks for contributing to OSM.

I thought the shape of the park looked familiar, so I've taken the opportunity to extend the park to match the added path.

You havent connected the two ends of the path at the bottom of the park. Is this the way it is in reality? If it isnt connecting them...
22017-01-27 13:31:28 UTC99mist99 Thanks for letting me know, yes the path around the grass area is one path (connected)my fault sorry. The road into the park from Wensleydale Road and the parking area is there yes.Many thx
12017-01-27 09:52:59 UTCSK53 It might be worth separating out the church part so that it can be shown separately (and found by people looking for a church). Is it a different part of the building or a separate room?

Also it could probably do with religion=christian and denomination=* (if the church belongs to a particular d...
12017-01-27 09:47:50 UTCSK53 OpenStreetMap is used in real life by millions of people. Please dont use it for doodles: only map things which exist. If you're hoping for Pokemon mapping real things works much better.

I've deleted this.
12017-01-25 12:06:21 UTCSK53 I'm not at all sure the Strategic Investment boundary belongs in OpenStreetMap. It certainly is not an administrative area in the common meaning of the usage of boundary=administrative, so a different tag should be used.

Also it's not clear that the linked document is a suitable source for OSM d...
22017-01-26 15:34:51 UTCPaul Furley Thanks for the feedback, SK53. As you can see it's one of my first edits!

I asked around and read the wiki and found it hard to establish what *should* belong in OpenStreetMap. I'll remove the boundary=administrative tag - do you think I should remove the feature altogether?

Agreed that a PDF ...
32017-01-26 15:47:36 UTCSK53 Certainly remove the administrative value for boundary. Perhaps replace it with boundary=planning_area for now. Administraive boundaries get pulled into notional addresses which is how I noticed it in the first place.

In general stuff like this is not a great deal of use in OSM. Even if you have ...
12017-01-26 15:11:31 UTClostmike You seem to have flooded this estate again, have these houses really been demolished and replaced with a lake? If there's no lake here please don't map it as such.
22017-01-26 15:19:42 UTCSK53 What I presume were the Water Gardens were replaced by the current housing around 2011, as can be seen on Ordnance Survey mapping http://os.openstreetmap.org/#zoom=18&lat=52.373508&lon=1.103004
12017-01-26 12:45:48 UTCSK53 A couple of requests:

a) please avoid edits which cover such a large part of the world
b) please use an intelligible source name for imagery used

I presume you do not have any local knowledge about the diverse areas included in this edit. It is therefore important that other contributors can ...
22017-01-26 17:04:57 UTCEric Godwin Great points which I will address going forward. The imagery used was Bing. I was simply breaking up a number of longer roads which spanned multiple intersections as in the past I have seen that this can lead to misattribution.
12017-01-25 10:54:44 UTCSK53 Thanks for contributing to OpenStreetMap. I suspect that the area mapped as the BT Estate is too large as it covers the railway lines which I presume are owned/managed by Network Rail.

I also note that the road giving access to the BT depot is missing. I could add it myself, but it's far better ...
12017-01-24 14:06:27 UTCSK53 Just happen to be looking at recent edits around Nottingham and would like to remind you that we are meeting in the Lincolnshire Poacher tonight in case you wanted to come along: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Pub_Meetup. Plenty of us are interested in footpaths.
12017-01-24 14:02:24 UTCSK53 Hi Mike,

These may have been inappropriate for the name tag, but the first one I looked at had useful mappable information in the tag (light vehicles only) which you have removed.

I'd prefer if you actually moved name=>description than deleted the tag.
12017-01-24 09:58:53 UTCmueschel Hi,
I found 25 objects with the key "brrier" in your edits, would you mind correcting that?

Cheers, Jan
22017-01-24 10:14:57 UTCSK53 Fixed: copying tags from object to object has it's issues :-)
12016-11-13 00:22:36 UTCwoodpeck This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 43508161, 43401664, 43586101, 43400726, 42346992, 42518732, 42347148, 42512083, 42519026, 42198424, 42346785, 42520415, 43507099, 43401372, 43402690, 42519592, 43507348, 42518667, 42521676, 42521357, 42345941, 43586234, 43402332, 42521584, ...
22017-01-23 19:26:37 UTCSK53 Looks like the reverts didnt go back far enough Lambeth Bridge is a horrendous mess
12017-01-23 12:55:36 UTCSK53 I think I'll merge this node back to the original one (http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/27565066/history) to retain the history (for instance the original one has a wikidata link)
22017-01-23 15:06:38 UTCSK53 Ok have done that (so your pop figure is on old node). There are large cities genuinely missing from Nigeria, see the Nigeria section of my blog post here: http://sk53-osm.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/urban-areas-2-derivation-from.html. Unfortunately there are big gaps in the aerial imagery and clouds on ...
32017-01-23 15:08:22 UTCSK53 One other thought about Ibadan. There are lot of things mapped as hospitals which probably aren't: clinics & health centres etc. There's a tendency for mappers to use amenity=hospital because it shows up prominently, but it makes the data much less useful for many purposes.
12017-01-16 08:27:57 UTCBCNorwich The number suggests a triangulation pillar then type=triangulation can be added. Please see here :- https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dsurvey_point
Regards
22017-01-16 09:38:36 UTCPeter Fowler Sure.

I am very, very new here, and I read the paragraph,

> type=triangulation,
> type=observation_spot,
> type=fixed_point and type=benchmark
> have meaning in nautical maps, where
> they refer to INT-1 codes B20, B21, B22
> and B23 respectively. Note: it would be \...
32017-01-16 11:34:30 UTCSomeoneElse "type=triangulation" was a new one to me too...
42017-01-17 13:34:52 UTCSK53 type=* anything should be avoided as type really should be reserved for relations. I would agree with either of survey_point or survey_point:type as being suitable values.
52017-01-19 07:02:05 UTCPeter Fowler Please believe me that I had no notion how difficult I would find this. Please feel invited to fill in the correct tags perhaps from http://trigpointing.uk/trig/3033 . Further, I am not quite certain that the [wiki page that I used](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dsurvey_point) is...
62017-01-19 07:18:08 UTCPeter Fowler I have found, on my shelves, a paper copy of sheet 122 of the Seventh Series (Melton Mowbray) published 1962. Looking at SK865065, it is between the 500 foot and 450 foot contour line, I would judge at about 470 feet, maybe a little higher. Should I add this figure, or the one from the Garmin (149 m...
72017-01-19 11:44:04 UTCSK53 Not to worry: somewhat surprisingly trig pillars are not that well documented. This discussion is useful for helping clarify what should be documented. By a remarkable co-incidence last weekend I also mapped a trig pillar featured on sheet 122 (http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4608321916), so it's ...
82017-01-20 03:39:27 UTCPeter Fowler OK. My map does not appear to have the spot height. The green Pathfinder 896 has metric contours and a spot height of 150 and the Orange Explorer 15 is identical. My only concern is to avoid being accused of wrongful copying of the issued data from [TrigpointingUK](http://trigpointing.uk/trig/3033) ...
92017-01-20 11:16:22 UTCSK53 My map is issue B/* (c) 1962, updated with PRoW and major roads 1967. I notice the map on NLS doesnt have the spot height either, and the earlier interpolated contours on the 6" and 2.5 inch OOC maps dont really agree with the spot height (http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=52.6502...
102017-02-26 12:47:48 UTCPeter Fowler Thank you.

I have never previously seen that map, and I agree that the land rises quite steeply from the Uppingham Road. This triangulation pillar does not seem to be shown. Had it been erected? The OS claim that their "leveling" dates from 1963. Perhaps the contour lines on the 1937-61...
12017-01-19 15:02:20 UTCSK53 Are you sure about http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4020491191. Just checking my photos from Feb 2016 & I think this is a stile adjacent to a gate.
22017-01-19 20:14:35 UTCdudone Hi Jerry

Well spotted. If I'm not sure I will use entrance. I have always assumed that if you have a barrier with out an entrance, gate, still etc routing wouldn't work so this is my default. Having checked my pictures I have one looking back at this. As you suggest it is a stile and a gate....
32017-01-19 20:29:55 UTCSK53 Realised that I had not added hedges etc from visit in Feb 2016, so was following that route. I agree entrance is good practice and helps to encourage checking of gates etc in the field.

Overall we seem to have made a very satisfactory impact on mapping this area. I'm continuing to add field boun...
12017-01-18 18:15:50 UTCVclaw Why did you remove the addr:interpolation as unneeded? These are buildings with multiple housenumbers. So how to tag that the address is a range of numbers, either odd, even, or all numbers.
See the wiki, which suggests using interpolation tags (though says there is no consensus). http://wiki.opens...
22017-01-18 20:17:47 UTCSK53 I've just looked at one example and I would tend to agree with GinaroZ. Shops with an address of the form 10-16 isnt a true interpolated address, because numbers 10,12,14 and 16 dont exist independently. We (Nottingham mappers) stick to using addr:interpolation on single address nodes for things lik...
12017-01-18 19:31:37 UTCchillly This edit looks a bit odd. There doesn't look to be any beach there - it looks like tidal mud to me. Adding the name ('tidal beach') is a really bad idea. That is not the name of the mud, so please don't name it.

This is part of a mapathon. I hope the organiser is checking all this stuff
22017-01-18 20:12:56 UTCSK53 This is tidal mud, I've gazed at it many times from the London Apprentice.
12017-01-16 10:05:35 UTCThe Maarssen Mapper Hi... Where did you get the info that the facility itself was closed? Your link refers to the charitable organisation that used to run it, not to the facility itself.
22017-01-16 12:09:56 UTCPolarbear Sorry, wrong conclusion then. Good to hear it is still open - feel free to change with the new operator.
32017-01-17 13:32:32 UTCSK53 @PolarBear I think in this case it is your responsibility to reverse the edit. Normally in the UK we use notes for cases where only the type of evidence you had is available of a change. This is particularly true when the data pertains to the operator not the actual amenity (and this is true of much...
42017-01-17 13:59:27 UTCPolarbear No problem, reopened with a fixme. I was assuming The Maarssen Mapper would have the new operator ready to name.
12017-01-16 16:20:28 UTCmaldav I do not seem to be able to label the route 6. What am I doing wrong?
22017-01-17 12:44:20 UTCtrigpoint What do you mean by label? What are you expecting
32017-01-17 13:08:40 UTCSK53 If you want it to appear on the transport map I think you need to put the bus route number in the ref tag, so add ref=6 and then it should appear along the relevant roads. Here's an example from my own area: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/71283
42017-01-17 21:39:09 UTCmaldav Many thanks for this information. It took me a while to realise that I was missing the Relation:route. I have now found the details on the wiki. This information didn't appear with the existing bus routes 4 and 4a put on by someone else. I now have to decide how far along the route I need to go. ...
12017-01-15 23:46:22 UTCSK53 Having Dunleary coming up in Nominatim searches instead of Dun Laoghaire seems very anachronistic. But then Kingstown would be a hell of a lot worse!
22017-01-16 08:29:43 UTCmackerski It would be anachronistic if Dunleary wasn't the name in daily use by most people. But it is. The vague similarity between the spellings of the Irish and English names coupled with an initiative to get people to move to the Irish name has led to an odd situation where people say "Dunleary"...
32017-01-16 09:33:08 UTCSK53 And I thought you'd just tell me to change my browser locale settings.
12017-01-15 21:31:06 UTCchillly Welcome to OSM,
You seem to have added a meadow over the top of a building. This seems rather unlikely. You might not have realised that you were saving to the public version of OSM. Would you like some help cleaning this up?

If you want any help editing OSM please feel free to ask.
22017-01-15 21:49:15 UTCSK53 There is indeed no meadow here: maybe a patch of grass in the hall courtyards, in which case landuse=grass, grass=amenity_grassland. However, I have generally avoided mapping grassy areas in the campus as it makes things rather complicated: and as it's a campus grass can be considered a reasonable d...
12017-01-13 14:51:58 UTCSomeoneElse Personally, I wouldn't add "place=isolated_dwelling" for things such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4239537498 . If a house is visible on the Bing imagery I'd add that as a house, and if the name's visible on OS OpenData I might be tempted to add that as a house name, but house and ...
22017-01-13 21:36:50 UTCkreuzschnabel Why wouldn’t you, too close to Thirsk? While I use addr:housename for residential houses within larger dwellings (e.g. villages), my idea on remote places is that users should easily find them in the map, therefore I enter their names as a place on its own (provided it has a name, of course). ...
32017-01-13 22:42:01 UTCSomeoneElse There's a fair amount of overuse of "isolated_dwelling" in the UK (possibly because the standard style renders it, and used to render it more prominently than it did now). I've always thought of "isolated_dwelling" as being for places that really are places - not just houses on ...
42017-01-14 07:26:39 UTCkreuzschnabel Possibly because there are so many scattered dwellings in the British countryside :-) As I said, in my idea on OSM usability, someone may tell me, "I live in Melrose, near Thirsk", I’ll reply, after a quick search, "yep, got it in my map, dont need further description". If ...
52017-01-14 20:51:35 UTCSK53 Strongly agree with @SomeoneElse. The place=isolated_dwelling tag is almost always a mistake in Britain. For large distinctive isolated buildings (country houses for instance) adding name to the building is fine, for smaller residences this information belongs in addr:housename. Where an isolated dw...
62017-01-14 21:46:18 UTCGinaroZ place=locality is for an unpopulated place though
72017-01-14 22:20:35 UTCkreuzschnabel Right Ginaro – locality is for named hillsides, pastures etcetera. (Hillsides are often tagged natural=peak which is wrong unless there really is a visible peak.)
82017-01-15 14:17:01 UTCSK53 Don't be too wedded to wiki definitions. Often the locality name covers a broader area than just the buildings which have the same name. Sometimes the locality came first, sometimes the buildings. Unless one has detailed research/local knowledge it's not easy to decide & EPNS researchers spend y...
12017-01-15 14:00:11 UTCSK53 Slightly complicated one: Raw Head & the hut across the road aren't really residential areas, but can't think what else can be used to mark them. From a purely financial view they're commercial as the climbing clubs have to pay business rates, but that ain't right either. Perhaps some kind of su...
12017-01-11 11:31:39 UTCmueschel Hi,
could you check the ':name' tag of this forest? Looks like you wanted to use another key there.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/222070183
22017-01-11 11:40:18 UTCSK53 Thanks it needed a source:name
12017-01-08 12:22:29 UTCSK53 I suspect the post office mapped in Eakring (http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/426994556) is an error for the post box in almost the same location. I certainly dont recall seeing a post office here in June 2015.
22017-01-08 12:24:17 UTCSomeoneElse http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/426994556 was added 7 years ago - it's quite possible that there was one then and isn't now. If you think it's gone, I'd just delete it.
32017-01-08 13:16:37 UTCSK53 Yes, looks to have gone according to OSSV http://os.openstreetmap.org/#zoom=16&lat=53.15099&lon=-0.9938. Cant find my pic of the postbox, but I dont remember anything looking like a former PO.
12017-01-05 14:24:20 UTCSK53 Thanks, new addresses & postcodes are always very valuable. You might also like to add office=computer_services and maybe draw the building and then you will be more visible. I think we had no aerial imagery when I first mapped the area.
12016-12-30 12:49:31 UTCSK53 Very late I know, but: a) what is the source of this data; b) is it documented on the Import list on the wiki; c) was this import discussed on the import mailing list. Quality seems very low.
22017-01-13 23:39:09 UTCJedrzej Pelka I'm joining this question. What is "Danau/waduk"? There are 82 such "villages" in the whole Indonesia, 16 solely around Surakarta where I'm editing. It seems weird.
12016-12-20 13:04:51 UTCSK53 Please don't delete ways without checking if they are part of a relation. You broke the boundary of two Irish Vice Counties by deleting way 355190936. These are actively used by Irish botanists & other naturalists.
12016-12-18 21:18:38 UTCSK53 This map data is used by millions of people. Please dont mess around with it for 'fun'
12016-12-18 07:11:34 UTCBCNorwich With respect, Way: 447956699 lacks any tagging and looks a bit unusual. Regards
22016-12-18 21:08:03 UTCSK53 Removed. Turns out it was an accidentally duplicated from the grammar school way even though it doesnt look quite the same.
12016-12-11 12:12:15 UTCtrigpoint Hi, is Quorn Village Hall really a Town Hall (as in seat of local government). I have been there a few times and would consider it a community centre.
Cheers Phil
22016-12-11 19:03:31 UTCJoeNerini1 Hi Phil,

The OpenStreetMap Wiki states that Town Halls "may just serve as a community meeting place" so I feel this classification is appropriate.

Thanks,
Joe
32016-12-15 16:59:00 UTCSK53 No this is not an appropriate classification. Use either amenity=village_hall or amenity=community_centre which are the accepted values for such places in the UK, and have been so for at least 6-7 years.
12016-12-14 15:11:30 UTCSK53 Using Google Maps violates Google's terms of service & also violates the Contributor Agreement & OpenStreetMap's T&C. Please stop.

Your work is likely to be entirely removed (redacted).
22016-12-14 21:38:41 UTCSomeoneElse_Revert This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 44403770, 44396421 where the changeset comment is: Initial revert of some google.cn sourced data in China
12016-12-13 12:29:13 UTCSK53 Is there any reason why you changed the name from Aldi to Aldi foodstore. Last time I went past it still was called just "Aldi"
22016-12-13 16:47:05 UTCuebelhacker I am not sure where it came from and why I added it. Removing it.
32016-12-13 16:59:07 UTCSK53 Thanks. (I think some Aldi's have this as a 'strapline', but dont recall seeing it in UK). Only picked this up because I was trying to pull all Aldi's in UK & noticed one I know was missing.
12016-12-07 17:26:23 UTCSK53 Seems there's a typo on postal_distribution_box in this changeset. I presume it refers to one of these: https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/FGbTbtxfIJfPmfOvAdiE5w
22016-12-08 14:32:24 UTCRobert Whittaker Yes, that's right. I'm not sure if it's the best way to tag it. One of the nodes was previously incorrectly tagged as an amenity=post_box , which obviously isn't right, so I needed something to use instead.

Both nodes http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3528302841 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/n...
32016-12-08 15:54:52 UTCSK53 Yeah was looking for examples 'cos Alex Kemp has been doing exactly that (tagging as post boxes) & I thought such an approach needed to nipped in the bud smartish. Having an alternative tag certainly helps & I think this is perfectly self-explanatory.
12016-12-08 12:41:28 UTCSK53 Are you sure these roads are residential. The quarry closed 1982 & in the standard imagery all housing has been demolished here. I doubt if anyone wants to live on a toxic quarry site.
12016-12-07 11:15:46 UTCSK53 Please dont add amenity=post_box to the boxes used by postmen to store mailbags whilst on their rounds. Post Box must be a place where one can post letters.
22016-12-07 11:25:35 UTCalexkemp Whilst happy to be told what I've done wrong, if you do not add the positive bit (how to do it correctly) your actions + words are a waste of space.
32016-12-07 13:04:34 UTCSK53 Adding erroneous info the tag amenity=post_box is indeed wrong. Positive action is "dont do it again" & "delete the erroneous tag" & then we wont get a) someone posting notes about it; and b) someone wont use it to post a letter. It's not my job to find suitable tags for ...
42016-12-07 14:07:36 UTCalexkemp So you reckon that I should just keep throwing darts at the [table of amenities](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity?uselang=en-GB) until I finally hit one that is acceptable to you? If you cannot define which is the acceptable tag then I will not accept your definition that the one used...
12016-12-06 12:37:00 UTCSK53 At least one of these assignments is incorrect Newton data does not apply to the OSM element Newton CP
22016-12-06 12:45:41 UTCSK53 Actually data looks OK, but the wikipedia article link is wrong & the wikipedia article looks to be out-of-date.
32016-12-07 06:58:31 UTCnyuriks @SK53, sorry not sure what you mean. I looked at Newton - http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6488382 - seems to be in order and matching the Wikipedia article. I couldn't find Netwon CP, only Newton Valence http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3344971 - if you think there is an error, let me kno...
12016-11-30 13:58:56 UTCSK53 Hmm, perhaps a comment on the changeset mighthave been more appropriate. I'd have interpreted this as meaning sidewalk=both/left/right. Just removing the tag neither helps the orirignal mapper nor improves overall data quality. Incidentally the road is not strictly a driveway as it gives access to g...
12016-11-02 18:04:54 UTCSK53 Please don't add generic references for individual POIs to wikipedia. It completely destroys search results. See for example how adding en:Starbucks to one cafe in Japan caused it to swamp other searches for Starbucks. Wikipedia/wikidata refs must be to the same object not a related one.
12016-10-25 10:51:41 UTCSK53 In this changeset you say you deleted "line with no purpose", but the relevant way marks an embankment which is part of the tram network.
22016-10-25 11:07:10 UTCalbjorgui Unfortunately I can't exactly remember what lines I deleted but I can assure you that the tram network does not have any embankment in this area, at least it is not an embankment with a flood risk purpose...maybe the category should have been different?
12016-10-23 16:05:03 UTCSK53 I suspect you want sidewalk=left on this roundabout rather than sidewalk=both
12016-10-23 14:35:28 UTCSK53 You have removed all tags from this way when as your note says it is only partially closed to motor traffic. You should have merely added motor_vehicle=no to the way. Here's the notce http://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/extra/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=64595&p=0
22016-10-23 15:50:11 UTCSK53 I'm reverting this edit as it is clearly an incorrect representation of the Gloucs Highway document and worsens information for everyone except drivers turning off the A-road
12016-10-19 23:01:58 UTCSK53 Just discovered your Bordeaux tree import (when I saw trees in Bordeaux I had a sneaky feeling I knew who might have done it).

A couple of notes: specifically about species=Acer saccharinum.

You have placed the cultivar name in the taxon tag. I think best practice is to follow the example of V...
12016-10-11 14:34:56 UTCSomeoneElse Hallo,
The website isn't correct here, surely?
You've added a link for the website for the chain, not this example of it.
Best Regards,
Andy
22016-10-11 22:37:32 UTCgtjack9 Each resteraunt does not have a unique website so I used the general McDonald's website/menu.
Is that ok?
32016-10-16 11:21:51 UTCSK53 Generally no OSM is not a directory of business services, so when websites are provided it should be directly related to the object itself. One of the more useful purposes of website/url tags is to enable other mappers to quickly verify information. A generic McDonald's url adds no information that ...
42016-10-16 15:40:35 UTCtrigpoint A similar issue to this has also caused problems in the past, somebody in Japan helpfully added starbucks wikipedia page to every outlet in Japan, which caused a nominatim search made anywhere in the world to return those ahead of local ones that the user actually wanted. Not sure if a website has ...
12016-10-16 11:13:43 UTCSK53 I wonder why you removed my note about Manor Road. You have not added any tags regarding access to it, so you removed relevant information. Years ago I had a friend who lived here & it was an unadopted road then, so it ought to have access=destination or access=private as a tag. As I havent visi...
12016-10-07 10:33:00 UTCSK53 Nice try, but it's in the wrong place: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/320358081#map=19/51.89439/1.48253.

People doing something as geeky as OpenStreetMap can't resist this sort of thing. It's been done before!
12016-10-06 19:03:25 UTCSK53 I'd put Premier as brand=Premier. It's a trading fascia owned by Booker Group (formerly a buying group IIRC). The shop is likely operated entirely by the folk behind the counter.
22016-10-07 07:33:21 UTCJez Nicholson Thanks Jerry. Agreed. I've updated it.
12016-10-05 12:12:44 UTCSK53 You might want to review if all these peaks are really peaks sometime :-)
22016-10-05 12:35:25 UTCEdLoach Switching to cycle map layer (for contours) it looks like many are, and some are slightly off. Source originally was one of these layers: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/VectorAndMapData#Public_Domain_CIA_Maps
32016-10-05 12:35:52 UTCEdLoach Quite a few are slightly off, even
12016-09-28 11:28:02 UTCSK53 Thanks for doing this, and welcome to OpenStreetMap.

I'm sure there are other changes on the High Street which I havent caught up with. Also Sports Bar on King Street has gone I believe. If you spot more it would be great if you can either put a note on the map or edit them directly.

If someth...
22016-09-28 13:07:33 UTCGordon Oliver OK - thanks for the tip. I'm primarily focusing on all matters cycling, but if I notice anything else, then I'll try to pick it up.
12016-09-24 17:08:46 UTCSK53 Glad you've not only highlighted problem but worked out how to fix it. For obvious reasons things like this are not stuck out in front of new editors.

One other thing which can be done with these relations is add wikipedia tags of form "wikipedia=en:Mazini Region". These get properly pa...
22016-09-25 06:26:08 UTCkickert Thanks for the insight. Obviously changing major administrative area names is probably not something new editors should be undertaking, although I am glad to know the process, since it also works for smaller areas such as parks.
12016-09-23 18:39:54 UTCSK53 Nice spot that this wasnt connected to Halifax Way. Must have edited a few times & not noticed.
22016-09-24 07:18:02 UTCsalix01 http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing&lon=-0.16883&lat=51.73886&zoom=8&overlays=unconnected_major1

Bet you knew the page already ;-)
12016-09-05 13:16:12 UTCSK53 Does the interpolation way 4-9 for The Cliff still make sense now that Rufford Court is a B&B. Dont think I have any pictures from this area from when I first surveyed it.
22016-09-05 13:34:09 UTCwill_p No, it doesn't appear to make sense. I suspect I just forgot to remove it.

Looking at my photos, the address of the B&B as written on signs outside is '3 The Cliff', while the FHRS data gives it as '3-5 The Cliff'.
12016-09-04 17:53:00 UTCwill_p Hello, welcome to OpenStreetMap. I see you have removed Southcliffe Road from the map. I suspect that might have been done unintentionally. Let me know if you need help fixing it.
22016-09-04 19:17:10 UTCnosher Sorry, it was not my intention to do that - particularly as that is where I live! I had dropped a gold pin and was attempting to pin my own home. As a newbie I am trying to learn about how to make greater use of the programme. I am particularly interested in why no individual homes are shown on m...
32016-09-04 22:21:55 UTCwill_p Hi, no problem, I've reverted the changes, so the road should now be shown again.

You made the edits using OpenMaps for iOS. I have never used that particular app, so I can't advise you on exactly what went wrong. The following page lists places where you can get help: http://www.openstreetmap.o...
42016-09-05 08:56:34 UTCSK53 Just to add a welcome from another mapper in the Nottingham area. I think the houses N. of Carlton Hill have been added very recently. We've had more mappers living on W & S of city which has meant the buildings have appeared there first. Adding just addresses can be very helpful as these have t...
52016-09-10 20:52:59 UTCalexkemp Hi nosher, welcome to OSM! I'm the man that you can blame for the presence of all those houses north of Carlton Hill (and thus absence south of Carlton Hill). I drew an arbitrary line down the Hill & decided to map all streets north of it; I'm currently doing something similar with houses south...
62016-09-10 20:56:40 UTCSomeoneElse I've heard people recommend http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Go_Map!! for iOS (though I'm also not a regular iOS user myself).
12016-08-24 11:28:50 UTCSK53 I'm not sure about this. To board a train I have to enter the concourse on the LHS. Current routing along the additional footways allows entry at exit only points.
22016-08-24 11:42:04 UTCbjohas Can you say a bit more? I think the exits are marked as "exit only", so routing software may not get this right. However, in principle all footpaths are there, so you can follow the path into the main concourse and use the entrance there. What software are you using?
12016-08-22 18:39:59 UTCtrigpoint Hi, is http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3077317663 really a post office?
It seems a very odd name, and there is a post office over the road. Actually I visited Kings Cross Post Office on the way to SOTM-EU
22016-08-22 23:58:13 UTCyourealwaysbe It's a good question. Doddle is a service to which you can have packages delivered and then pick them up (eg on the way home from work). I'm not 100% happy it's a post office, but i'm not sure what else to tag it, and post_office had been used elsewhere to tag Doddles. If there's a more accurate tag...
32016-08-23 01:38:32 UTCyourealwaysbe The description of post_office on the wiki seems appropriate, though it doesn't match the intuitive meaning in the uk.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpost_office

There is one in Birmingham tagged parcel_collection_point, but googling for this doesn't turn up anything for me.
42016-08-23 16:31:32 UTCtrigpoint The description in the wiki is a bit like describing a supermarket as a place that sells baked beans:)
THis does look like it is tagging for the renderer and really isn't the understood meaning of a post office which does banking, passports, car tax and loads of other things. Somebody searching for...
52016-08-23 17:39:47 UTCyourealwaysbe I expect the wiki takes a more international view: Fedex and UPS seem to be generally tagged as post_office also. I think Doddle sits happily with these two (packages can be sent and received and there is a customer service desk). It is also the typical tagging of Doddle in the UK (admittedly n~=1...
62016-08-24 11:26:00 UTCSK53 I think basically in the UK tagging them as post_office is not accurate. The minimum I would expect from a post office is to be able to buy stamps & send letters, packets & parcels through International Postal Union members.

I would suggest amenity=parcel_service
72016-08-24 11:27:07 UTCSK53 Or possibly amenity=post_depot (but parcel services do not handle post (yet!))
82016-08-25 02:49:56 UTCyourealwaysbe amenity=parcel_service sounds good to me :)
12016-08-18 18:22:16 UTCRobowolfer whats means "source;maxspeed=Bing;Mapillary" ?
22016-08-19 09:21:41 UTCSK53 Mapillary images were used to determine the values of speed limit changes & Bing the position. Should have a colon not comma
12016-08-18 18:23:05 UTCRobowolfer whats means "source;maxspeed=survey" ?
22016-08-19 09:20:43 UTCSK53 It should, of course, be source:maxspeed=survey. It means that I have driven this road & noted changes in speed limit (rather than used other sources).
12016-08-18 15:58:59 UTCSK53 A quick point about the LA building import. There seem to be buildings with low height and small surface area tagged as building=residential + building:unit=2. My suspicion is that these are actually garages & that all buildings in a lot are getting the same tags. Might be worth checking. Some g...
12016-08-14 16:10:47 UTCSK53 Was completely mystified as to why the path to S of Rainbow didnt match my recollection, so v. glad about your changeset comment.

Is the diversion permanent?
12016-08-12 14:50:14 UTCSK53 I've changed B45 in the centre of Erback to highway=secondary. I've assumed that when you changed it to highway=service the former was what you intended.
12016-08-10 17:52:06 UTCwill_p Here you have deleted the Nottingham administrative boundary relation, which has existed in OSM since 2009. I see you have recently created another relation for the city with admin_level=8. This is wrong because Nottingham is a unitary authority and therefore admin_level=6. It is the relation you cr...
22016-08-10 22:20:18 UTCalexkemp Hello Will. Nottingham is unique (as best I can tell) in that the identical area BoundaryLine actually contains 3 admin_levels (see https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/alexkemp/diary/39062):
1) level=6 Nottinghamshire; County (Nottm is the hole in the county)
2) level=8 "City of Nottingham&quo...
32016-08-10 23:28:31 UTCwill_p Firstly, I do recognise you have spent a lot of time tidying the geometry of boundary relations. That is definitely worthwhile and I've got absolutely no intention of doing anything that will negatively affect that. In this case, there's no reason why changes to the tagging and structure of the rela...
42016-08-11 00:02:45 UTCalexkemp You say: “City of Nottingham (unitary authority) relation could be tagged as admin_level=6;8;10”. That is genius! Leave all other BoundaryLine ‘admin_level’ as single-values, but make UAs triple values. In that case, after undelete on old relation, both new 'City of Nottingha...
52016-08-12 03:16:08 UTCalexkemp See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Csmale/ukboundaries (csmale is the user that has also made all OS .shape files available as .gpx downloads). Looking inside those downloads, the designation for unparished parishes is “designation=non-civil_parish”.
62016-08-12 14:02:06 UTCSK53 Can I add again, the standards for admin_level assignment are clear (they were not in 2009 when this was added). You certainly should not have removed the existing relation.

The rule is tags on relation, lowest admin_level. In fact for Nottingham the highest level is 6 as it is a unitary authorit...
72016-08-13 07:36:03 UTCThe Maarssen Mapper I fully concur with SK53. The fact that the UA and the city boundaries are coterminal does not make them the same object.

I am not convinced that the unparished areas should be in OSM at all, as the individual areas are all purely historical, unmaintained (though liable to change) and of no curre...
82016-08-13 09:36:19 UTCwill_p I have now undeleted the City of Nottingham admin_level=6 relation and deleted the admin_level=8 one. I checked the relation members and tags matched up between the two (where correct).
92016-08-15 09:26:31 UTCThe Maarssen Mapper Alex, please note that there is no such thing as an "unparished parish". A location in England is either within a Civil Parish, or it is within an unparished area.
102016-08-15 09:30:07 UTCalexkemp This is an automated response: sorry, but I'm too busy mapping too be able to spare the time to respond to you. Thank you for your interest in my mapping. -Alex Kemp
12016-08-12 13:51:10 UTCSK53 Hi Alex, Please dont add (unparished) to names. It breaks all sort of things & Nottingham has never been called N* (unparished).

The fact that it is unparished merely means in OSM terms that there is no admin_level=10 relation within the relevant part of the authority. It is therefore readily...
22016-08-12 22:09:20 UTCalexkemp Hi Jerry. “(Unparished)” is how the admin bodies (the councils) themselves refer to their unparished areas, and hence is why I call them that. Go argue with the councils if you disagree.

Please explain - explicitly - some of these many things that adding “(Unparished)” to ...
32016-08-12 22:35:40 UTCalexkemp Both Beeston + Nottingham level-10 relations have had the name changed to remove 'unparished' (even though that is the official description). I have relied on a ‘designation=non-civil_parish’ entry to discriminate between these & real CPs. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User...
12016-08-09 19:28:40 UTCSK53 You seem to have set a negative width on footpath http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/413746723. I imagine you meant something slightly different
22016-08-09 21:50:18 UTCTrollslayer Thanks for the info, a newbie error, probably not my first or last. Hopefully corrected now.
12015-10-06 22:35:28 UTCaseerel4c26 Hi LeTopographeFou, could you please comment on the relation of your changeset with https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct ?
22015-10-07 09:21:20 UTCgormo ...especially on "Document and discuss your plans". Where is the documentation? Was there a discussion?
32015-10-07 23:52:38 UTCaseerel4c26 umm, there are much more similar changesets by LeTopographeFou. Where is the discussion for those changes?
42015-10-07 23:53:42 UTCaseerel4c26 ... I've wrote a notification mail.
52015-10-07 23:54:26 UTCaseerel4c26 ... and the DWG is aware too
62015-10-08 22:58:14 UTCLeTopographeFou Thanks for your care aseerel4c26. Because the type=broad_leaved has been declared as deprecated on the Wiki, on TagInfo, and in JOSM (where I've had more than once warnings on this fact), I did not feel the need to open any discussion with the community neither to create any page to document a fact ...
72016-07-30 22:13:22 UTCfkv The automated edits code of conduct does not depend on whether a tag is "deprecated". So-called deprecated tags are not necessarily wrong. First of all, many deprecations are done by single users who edit the wiki without prior discussion. Even if a formal proposal has been accepted by vot...
82016-08-01 17:31:06 UTCSomeoneElse @fkv When I looked at the changes in here back in October last year I didn't see any evidence of data loss (though I only looked at a sample of the 5341 nodes).
Whilst a change like type=broad_leafed => leaf_type=broadleaved should have been discussed beforehand, in case someone was aware of a...
92016-08-01 18:43:39 UTCfkv Just take the first few nodes in this changeset as examples. They are located on Plaza de la Ciudad de la Habana, where there are palms and other trees. The non-palms were changed from type=broad_leafed (old spelling variant, but that's another issue) to leaf_type=broadleaved, losing the information...
102016-08-01 19:23:15 UTCLeTopographeFou Hi, this changeset was made a long time ago and I thought it has been reverted (with some others of the same type and of the same period). I'm going to ask for a revert by mail if it is still feasible.
112016-08-01 20:39:36 UTCSomeoneElse @fkv thanks; I wasn't aware of the use of "type" as meaning "not a palm tree".
@LeTopographeFou thanks; I've got the message requesting a revert. Before doing it I'll ask around to see if there's any better way to indicate "not a palm tree".
As I understand it (fro...
122016-08-02 00:16:16 UTCfkv I was asking for a revert, but it might be better to restore the type=* tags while keeping the leaf_type=* tags. It does not hurt to have both.
You could use taxon=* to mark palms, but there is no single taxon that includes all non-palm broad-leaved trees. Eudicots would be missing magnoliids, Aust...
132016-08-02 11:56:00 UTCSK53 I tend to agree with @fkv on all issues: 1) large scale updates often have unpredictable side effects; 2) originally we distinguished between conifers/dicots aka broad-leaved and palms (and possibly one or two others) using a range of tags wood/type etc. Ultimately these have been replaced by leaf_t...
142016-08-02 14:24:48 UTCSomeoneElse OK, done: See https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/41192016 .
152016-08-03 18:32:07 UTCLeTopographeFou @SomeoneElse: Thank you!
12016-07-30 11:00:39 UTCSK53 As a fellow mapper of trees I wondered if you know of the species or taxon tags. These are more appropriate for tree types than name (especially when the tree also has a proper name). Here are some examples on one's I've done http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.94379/-1.19020&layers=N, and a...
12016-07-06 15:39:48 UTCdavidearl These are part of the University of Cambridge, not the hospital. By removing these tags, you wreck the University of Cambridge's online map, so we propose to put them back in. If you don't like this, perhaps we can have a discussion about it, but in the meantime, we need our map back!
22016-07-06 16:53:19 UTCtrigpoint That sounds like you are tagging for the renderer.
32016-07-06 16:59:19 UTCdavidearl Not at all: tagging for the renderer is where you tag something to make it appear the way you want on some particular renderer. These really are parts of the University, and the rest (almost all) the hospital isn't; grouping them together is just wrong, it makes them indistinguishable. In any case c...
42016-07-11 09:40:21 UTCEoghanM The tag `operator=University of Cambridge` is the correct way to indicate that a node is part of another institution. `amenity=university` is a much more major thing to signify that there is (the centre of) a significant university here. E.g. The tags on node 1642015081 are saying 'There is a Univer...
52016-07-11 09:51:03 UTCEoghanM By 'online map' are you referring to the blue squares here?
http://map.cam.ac.uk/#52.175363,0.141020,17
The correct fix is to key them off `operator=University of Cambridge` instead of `amenity=university`
I appreciate that my changeset messed the map up for you so won't revert the incorrect amen...
62016-07-11 10:00:43 UTCdavidearl Not just those. This area is not a university campus, but some parts of it are University. Not is it a hospital completely. And some of it is private commercial. There is already a boundary for the campus, but it's a diverse place.

Operator is completely insufficient to represent the data here or...
72016-07-11 11:31:04 UTCEoghanM There are 1,249 nodes or ways within 20km of Cambridge that are tagged with amenity=university. 1,237 of these (i.e. almost all) have an operator=* tag on them.
Across the UK there are only 2,391 nodes or ways tagged with amenity=university.
It's great that Cambridge is so well mapped, but I thin...
82016-07-11 11:42:36 UTCEoghanM In my original changeset I incorrectly said "We should have one enclosing way to represent this hospital university campus."
This is because the presence of operator=university misled me into believing that this was a "University Hospital". (If ways were used instead of nodes I ...
92016-07-11 13:01:50 UTCSomeoneElse Link to previous discussion for completeness: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2015-May/017455.html .
102016-07-11 14:08:13 UTCEoghanM I suggest bulk changing all `amenity=university` within 20km of Cambridge to `map.cam.ac.uk=university` or similar so that there is minimal update/disruption required to that 3rd party software. @davidearl is that acceptable? I can execute that part of it if you like.
We can then go about using `am...
112016-07-11 14:58:27 UTCdavidearl Now, that *would be* tagging for the renderer! I really don't think that is the answer. (Nor is "operator" on its own, that's not enough information).

Cambridge University is not a campus University. There are about 10 areas you might call campuses in the conventional sense, maybe, and ...
122016-07-11 16:03:20 UTCEoghanM It's clear that your usage of `amenity=university` is different from the rest of the UK, and I respect that you thought about the tagging scheme thoroughly in 2011. I'm proposing `map.cam.ac.uk=university` to show that the tag has a specific usage (in terms of meaning, not just rendering) outside of...
132016-07-11 16:12:05 UTCdavidearl This just seems like a hack, and it'll all end up going round the same circle again in future.

But also, it effectively means University of Cambridge as an entity effectively disappears off the map completely (except for the University's own map) because it would be represented as a non-standard ...
142016-07-11 16:21:12 UTCEoghanM A good rule of thumb about 'what is a university' i.e. what should be tagged with `amenity=university` would be to look at the list of campuses/sites/colleges at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Cambridge
So less than 1,000, but more than 1.
So for Douglas House, it should be tagged if ...
152016-07-11 16:23:55 UTCEoghanM > Whatever else, just locally changing some blobs in the hospital area inconsistently with the rest is surely the worst possible answer.

Yes! This is the problem! I was only examining a local area without knowledge of how the wider Cambridge area is currently tagged, and I made changes consis...
162016-07-12 20:20:16 UTCSK53 EoghanM: I dont think the usage in Cambridge is drastically different from usage elsewhere. For Nottingham University there are 3 major amenity=university campuses, but also a number of discrete buildings or part of buildings (notably the Medical School & Postgraduate Medical Centre located with...
172016-07-17 19:11:37 UTCEoghanM I'm not suggesting a relation to join geographically remote campuses; the `operator=University of Nottingham` tag already does this effectively.
12016-07-01 13:14:46 UTCwill_p Please could you explain in more detail why you have changed Carlton from a suburb to a neighbourhood? I don't understand your changeset comment. Deciding on the relative importance of different places is subjective, but Carlton is one of Nottingham's main suburbs, so I find it hard to see any justi...
22016-07-01 13:55:05 UTCalexkemp Hi Will. On every recent Diary entry that I made the ‘Location’ said “Bakersfield NG22”, even though I clicked on a location on the map close to the Carlton suburb node (NG4). Checking the Bakersfield node I discovered it to be ‘place:neighbourhood’ with a Note sa...
32016-07-01 15:07:33 UTCSomeoneElse FWIW, the issue I suspect might be the same as https://github.com/twain47/Nominatim/issues/231 . The recommendation from Lonvia (who maintains Nominatim, which is what's producing "where I am" results) was "use areas".
42016-07-01 15:15:10 UTCwill_p My view is that the quality of the underlying data is by far the most important consideration. The data can be used for a range of purposes, so making it less accurate to work round a particular software deficiency seems the wrong way to go.

I agree that incorrect locations shown in diary entrie...
52016-07-01 15:36:46 UTCSK53 Yes I agree with will_p & SomeoneElse: the solution is to get a fix in Nominatim not mung the data. The existing places have been pretty stable for quite a number of years. Tweaking things in this way may well break other things, such as Garmin Maps based on OSM which many people (SomeoneElse &a...
62016-07-01 16:02:01 UTCalexkemp “the quality of the underlying data is by far the most important consideration” : that is irrefutable. I'm in the middle of adding houses in First Av, etc.. I'll revert the node when done with the houses. The whole thing should be up before midnight.

Does anyone know whether Bakersfie...
72016-07-01 17:31:21 UTCwill_p I think its borderline whether Bakersfield is a neighbourhood or suburb. I added the node originally and decided on neighbourhood, but I don't have any strong views either way.

I suppose I decided on neighbourhood, because I find it's a lesser known part of Nottingham. A lot of people haven't he...
82016-07-01 18:54:39 UTCalexkemp Just done another uplift of houses + have also changed both carlton + bakersfield nodes to ‘suburb’.
92016-07-07 23:54:25 UTCalexkemp After many talks with locals in Carlton ever since this conversation it is certain that the current location for Carlton is wrong. The current consensus seems to be the crossroads of Carlton Hill / Cavendish Road / Burton Road / Station Road. However, I will NOT touch anything until I've found an a...
12016-06-28 11:38:53 UTCSK53 I've changed the road to service as I don't believe it is maintained by local authority. As you have been there more recently than me you may know better, in which case revert my edit.
22016-06-28 12:43:08 UTCVclaw I believe it is currently maintained by SNH, but is to be taken over by the Isle of Rum Community Trust sometime soon. Anyway, I think it is important as the only main road on the island, connecting the ferry to the village and all of the amenities. And it is effectively a public road. So tagging it...
32016-06-30 10:23:56 UTCSK53 Hmm, when I visited I needed a permit from SNH or its predecessor (mind you the only way off the ferry was by dinghy). The island is effectively still a private estate (whether in hands of Bulloughs, NCC, SNH or a Community Trust) and should be mapped in a manner consistent with similar estates on t...
42016-07-01 01:41:07 UTCVclaw The main restriction for cars is you won't be allowed on the ferry unless you have a permit. Same as for Eigg, Muck, Canna or Knoydart. For people living and working on the island, it is used as a public road.
The road on Eigg is officially designated as an unclassified road (with a prohibition or...
12016-06-25 12:49:11 UTCSK53 Is the White House flagpole really called William Estate? I can find no online references to this name.
12016-06-17 14:53:45 UTCSK53 Welcome to OpenStreetMap. You may be interested to know that the tags which you have added as a single point (node) could equally be added to the existing area marked as landuse=industrial. In this case the name would show up directly. The address information & name you have added is very useful...
12016-06-17 09:16:52 UTCSK53 I wonder if you discussed this import before carrying it out. It appears to have lots of duplicate nodes and areas labelled as forest which are clearly small groups of individual trees.
12016-06-15 10:06:19 UTCSK53 You never added the name! (done now)
22016-06-15 14:25:51 UTCSomeoneElse D'oh!
12016-06-09 07:11:23 UTCstevea You are NOT "fixing" this route by changing its tags from network=icn to network=ncn. This is under no circumstances a network=ncn route. It is an international mountain bike route and that is NOT an ncn by any definition. If you are making this change so that you can see the route rend...
22016-06-10 09:48:20 UTCSK53 It would be better if both of you respected the judgement of two very experienced OSM bicycle mappers who both regard this as route=mtb. See the mail by Richard Fairhurst to talk-us about this https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2016-May/016206.html, and the comment by Simon Poole on O...
32016-06-10 17:43:26 UTCstevea I do respect OSM, and am a respected OSM bicycle mapper since 2009, even speaking about national bicycle routing in the USA at SOTM-US in 2014 (see http://vimeo.com/91897324) AND I extensively consulted with Richard Fairhurst on his cycle.travel router, for which he publicly and profusely thanked me...
12016-05-25 15:53:54 UTCPaul Berry Is this not Cann Hall?
22016-05-25 17:50:55 UTCSK53 Both names seem to be old names of the former CP of Wanstead. I seriously doubt if they have any relevance now http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/essex/vol6/pp317-322
12016-05-23 13:40:13 UTCSK53 Suggest it might be worth adding designation=public_footpath tags to anything which is signed as a public_footpath. It really helps a) reconcile against official data (if available); and b) makes clear which paths one has clear right to use.
22016-05-23 13:44:27 UTCSK53 Sorry wrote that w/o seeing that you are a new user. So a belated welcome.

There are a lot of OSM contributors spending a lot of time doing really detailed mapping of public rights of way (PRoW). Here's something I wrote up about this a couple of years ago which might be of interest http://sk53-o...
12016-05-22 11:18:50 UTCSK53 You deleted http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/169640838/history in this changeset, but there are isolated stiles appearing around Round Wood. I know some paths mapped in this area suffered from inaccurate GPS traces, but I'd like to know why an apparently surveyed path got zapped.
12016-05-19 13:15:41 UTChighflyer74 Hello there!

I noticed you added some new keys to the database like case:deadline=* etc. Although this is not forbidden, it is recommended to stick to the thousands of well established key=value combinations which can be found in the OSM documentation.

For internal planning data (like you adde...
22016-05-19 14:41:43 UTCLiron Schur Thanks @highflyer74 for your comments. I'd be certainly happy to only use standard key=value combinations, is there anything for this kind of work? I am doing this for a planning network, to allow people to visually view live planning applications. These values will be removed when they become irrel...
32016-05-19 15:22:00 UTChighflyer74 Thanks for the quick reply! As I am mainly mapping things and doing quite a bit of quality assurance, I am not that involved in the different ways to display data. I remember uMap (https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/) being mentioned in forums as an easy solution. With the Overpass Turbo (https://over...
42016-05-20 09:55:54 UTCSK53 Yes please use something like umap. Unless the local planning application summary (reference & address) are explicitly provided by the council as open data they are not suitably licensed for OpenStreetMap. Even if they are such relatively ephemeral (and hard to check) data is something which we ...
52016-05-21 22:01:20 UTCLiron Schur Thanks guys. uMap is awesome, produced a great map with it! (http://tinyurl.com/ppnmapv1). I've taken on board your comments, removed the CAPITALS and address from name, and cleaned up the 'notes' attribute. The planning application details are publicly available, and we are a citizen group making t...
12016-05-19 20:48:23 UTCSomeoneElse Hi - just wondered - does it make sense for the church hall at Ravenshead to also be a "place of worship" as well as the church? It's been that way for ages; I'm not familiar with the area so I stuck a note on it in case anyone news: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/152344
22016-05-20 09:44:31 UTCSK53 Must say I'd really appreciate a description with each of these changesets. It's much easier for other mappers to view the changeset description than to have to look at the objects edited & try to find what has changed.
32016-05-20 12:14:03 UTCSomeoneElse Aha - you've fixed it in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39435835 . I'll resolve the note.
12016-05-10 10:50:29 UTCwill_p Hi,

Are you sure that the change you made here is correct:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/53054452/history

Have you surveyed it or else what's your source?

The canal no longer passes under the road, except in narrow pipes, so waterway=canal seems inaccurate to me. See http://www.geograph...
22016-05-10 12:05:43 UTCSomeoneElse Actually, a photo from the other side would make it much more clear - the pipes would be clearly visible :)

Seriously though, please don't make "armchair" edits on the basis of "Mapbox User Feedback" without doing at least a smidgeon of due diligence. There are at least two v...
32016-05-10 19:53:43 UTCSK53 Can I just also add my request that such changes be at least passed by local mappers. The Grantham canal is a disused canal with a wide variety of different status throughout its length. It is non-trivial to map even with a survey. In this case one of the most active mappers in the world (kevjs1982)...
42016-05-11 05:45:41 UTCruthmaben Thank you for highlighting this SomeoneElse, will_p and SK53. I made these changes based on the satellite imagery. I have reverted the changes I made, which will remove the tags I added. You'll are right, this should have been taken care by the local community. Will be cautious in the future.
12016-04-26 04:35:40 UTCroadgeek99 my apologies for my past couple of edits. I have accidentally clicked the save button instead of cancel. that's why a wrong changeset comment is used here.
22016-04-28 14:34:00 UTCSK53 Don't worry too much about this: everyone copies the old changeset comments from time to time (or accidentally changes the c/s comments w/o saving each piece of work). It's certainly useful to do what you have done to clarify comments, but not essential.
12016-04-19 15:30:59 UTCSK53 I'm sure this track is shown on Ordnance Survey maps and plans. OpenStreetMap is no different we try & show what is observable. We do not censor the data except in cases where we may required to do so by laws (e.g., military areas). So I and others DO NOT accept your statement that it "shou...
22016-04-19 15:49:03 UTCThe Bolas Heathens It's not obvious when driving past on the public road as it looks like a farmers track to fields and not a driveway or road. It should not be shown on the maps.
32016-04-19 15:55:12 UTCtrigpoint If it 'looks like a farmers track to fields' then it is visible and should be mapped and tagged as access=private. As it appears on OS maps is there any point hiding it on OSM?
42016-04-19 16:11:05 UTCtrigpoint I have reverted this, changed it to a track and added access=private to indicate that it is not a right of way so will not be used by routers or map users.
That way it will not be incorrectly replaced as a right of way and is useful a navigational point.
12016-04-11 07:02:56 UTCpoornibadrinath @selwyn352
You should not be using Google/yahoo as a source of information for addition of any data on OSM. Look in here for more information - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FAQ#Why_don.27t_you_just_use_Google_Maps.2Fwhoever_for_your_data.3F
Also there is some excellent documentation about OS...
22016-04-12 15:06:15 UTCSK53 In addition making use of in-copyright Ordnance Survey Maps is also not allowable for OSM.

Also a) you have mis-transcribed the name, its Smooth Beck Foot; and b) mislocated it. It won't be the bay, but exactly what it says, the foot of Smooth Beck. The names are shown on OS StreetView Open Data ...
12016-04-11 14:38:53 UTCHervé Saint-Amand Castle Rock is of volcanic origin, but there's not a volcano in the heart of Edinburgh. Is this really the right tag?
22016-04-11 22:03:07 UTCRostranimin Hi Essex_Boy - I've reverted the edit to Castle Rock - back to 'peak'. Would be happy to see more detailed discussion of the options, but I don't think you're going to get agreement on natural=volcano. See the discussion also on this note: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/542849 Sorry, this is a p...
32016-04-12 14:59:22 UTCSK53 Yes indeed please no mapping of volcanic origin rocks as volcanoes. There may be some mapped this way in Germany but I've complained about these particular ones in the past.
12016-04-08 13:11:28 UTCtrigpoint Hi, welcome to OSM.
Your edits seem to be over a very wide area, I doubt you have visited them all.
What is the source of these edits? how did you know exactly where these take aways are located?
Thanks Phil
22016-04-08 14:37:00 UTCtake-a-way 1/ You would be surprised how many i have visited, but no i have not visited them all.
2/ The source of the edits for takeaways is the website take-a-way.co.uk.
3/ The maps or photos on the menu, google maps (i offer corrections on there also) Google streetmaps i look and the images and count chi...
32016-04-08 15:16:35 UTCtrigpoint In this case the address given on the menu is not sufficient to locate an individual business, particularly on a long road such as this. You should be aware that copying from copyright sources such as google maps is absolutely against the rules. These are pointed out in http://www.openstreetmap.org/...
42016-04-08 15:35:55 UTCtake-a-way 1/ Who said anything about copying from Google?
2/ What you probably are implying is i can't look at Google images to confirm the location, i should take a photo myself.
3/ yes correct i should have put the broken url (it is working at the moment) as the business and the 3rd party site as the refe...
52016-04-08 15:52:51 UTCtrigpoint Hi
You are correct, you must not look at google maps to confirm the location. The preferred way of contributing to openstreetmap is to visit the locations and if necessary take photos yourself, although if you have visited then you memory would be good enough. The businesses concerned can obviously...
62016-04-08 16:04:54 UTCtrigpoint Sorry, you cannot copy from google images either.
72016-04-08 16:29:26 UTCtake-a-way You are in error regarding mapillary.
I have just read its terms of use quote-
Mapillary will always be free for personal and non-commercial use.
So if i updated or add something to OSM and it is used commercially by another. Then i would be in breach of their terms by viewing images to gain info...
82016-04-08 16:45:04 UTCSK53 Mapillary explicitly provide the rights to use its images to add stuff to OSM (just as Mapbox & Bing allow their aerial imagery to be used). The personal license relates to using the Mapillary images & website for purposes other than contributing to OSM. So Mapillary is definitely the best w...
92016-04-08 16:59:18 UTCtake-a-way Yes i thought it might be fun also as i travel around the country a lot and often have time to burn during daylight hours.

But after considering the ramifications of what we are and are not allowed to do i have decided against it.

And to comply with what we are not allowed to do i have begun t...
12016-04-08 13:10:46 UTCSK53 Please if you add data to OpenStreetMap check if something has already been mapped. This particular chip shop has been on OSM for around 6 years.

I would also like to query the source for your data as you have made edits all over the country. Please note that we have particular requirements if yo...
22016-04-08 14:42:09 UTCtake-a-way 1/ when i added the entry the shop was not visible to me on OSM otherwise i would have added to the existing entry.
2/ The source of the edits for takeaways is the website take-a-way.co.uk.
3/ i do not have an automated menthod my data sources are - the maps or photos on the menu, google maps (i ...
32016-04-08 16:03:34 UTCSK53 1/ It was visible on the OSM map (and is still visible).
2/ You can only use the take-a-way.co.uk site if you have permission from the owners of the copyright and they are aware of the terms under which OSM data is distributed.
3/ Any use of Google Maps violates the Contributor Agreement which you...
12016-04-07 22:46:29 UTCwill_p Hi, there's no need to enter speed limits in km/h. You just need to add the unit after the number, e.g. 20 mph.

See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed
22016-04-07 22:51:47 UTCalexkemp Hi Will

Thank goodness for that!
32016-04-08 10:56:05 UTCSK53 Yes we dropped the idea of having to enter stuff that way a long time ago, and all shared your feeling too.
12016-04-06 13:08:42 UTCSK53 Welcome to OpenStreetMap. It's very nice seeing another new editor in this area as there's been a lot of change which we (existing contributors) haven't been able to keep up with.
12016-04-04 13:22:34 UTCBCNorwich Hi, Welldone and welcome to OpenStreetMap, Just made the opening times fit OSM's method, added website and phone number.
22016-04-04 13:31:59 UTCSomeoneElse I don't think Fitzbillies is a really restaurant though is it? It's a while since I've been there, but I'd have always categorised it as "quite an expensive cafe, catering to Cambridge's extensive tourist trade"
If you want to separate values (e.g. "cuisine" I'd suggest using s...
32016-04-05 13:13:31 UTCSK53 Certainly an expensive cafe last time I was in there even in it's new form (i.e., since the original place folded).
12016-04-04 19:20:43 UTCSK53 Hi Alex,

Enjoying watching how the area is coming on. Just think that the Donkey Hill name on St Bartholomew's Road should be in a different tag from ref. I suspect that either local_name or alt_name is better. It wont show on the rendering, but will be picked up by the search box.

All the bes...
22016-04-04 19:29:12 UTCalexkemp 'local-' or 'alt-' may make better sense, but the fact that "Donkey Hill" shows up on the map is so thrilling (endorsing the local legend & naming) that I would wish it to stay in 'ref'.
32016-04-04 19:35:40 UTCalexkemp PS
Bottom of Donkey Hill is a mess (junction St Anns Well Road) - bad info from commercial operators. Will be fixing it immediately I finish entering Thorneywood Rise + Gordon Road info, having collected fresh info today.
42016-04-04 19:38:35 UTCSK53 I did wonder about that; it will go eventually when someone cleans up all refs, but content to leave it for now. At least add it as loc_name too. Perhaps we could work on a rendering with only local names, but they're still a bit thin on the ground http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/fsr
52016-04-04 19:39:41 UTCSK53 Local knowledge wins every time!
62016-04-04 23:18:24 UTCalexkemp PPS
"Saint Bartholomew's Road" was named after (what used to be) the local Anglican church (called, er, 'Saint Bartholomew's Church') which was positioned on the north side of Bluebell Hill Road, where Wickens Walk is now. There is *very* little info on that church, even though it was onl...
12016-04-04 19:14:26 UTCSK53 This is a mechanical edit: I very much doubt if you have visited these places or checked each way. Besides there is no need at all to alter ##mph to ## mph: parsing a speed limit is straightforward with or without the space.

In general the UK/GB community dislikes mass edits even for good reasons...
12016-04-02 00:25:57 UTCDeanna Earley Hello Ben.
Can you confirm what other data you've taken from Google?
Google's data is copyright and is not compatible with OpenStreetmap's licence which means we may have to strip all effected changesets.
22016-04-02 16:01:32 UTCBen Wheatley That's unfortunate, I had been advised that facts (e.g. house names/numbers) could not be copyrighted, and that this would therefore not be a problem.

Fortunately, I am fastidious about my sources, so only commits which specifically name Google will be affected.

Thank you for the information. ...
32016-04-04 09:48:24 UTCDeanna Earley Hello, while facts can't be copyrighted, we prefer not to use sources where we don't have explicit permission.
Google have surveyed that data, and make it available under a non open licence. Just as with any other data source, it could contain inaccuracies (accidental or deliberate), and that's wha...
42016-04-04 09:52:19 UTCSK53 It's important to be aware that "facts can't be copyrighted" is basically a US legal position, not one which applies in the same way in the UK & Europe. UK allows protection of databases of facts created through "sweat of the brow", and databases are protected under EU law.
...
52016-04-06 22:10:40 UTCBen Wheatley SK53: Thanks for that, this isn't the first time the difference between UK/US law has caused me confusion. Also, somehow, I'd not realised there even was a T&C for street view.
62016-12-28 19:19:21 UTCBen Wheatley @SK53, @Deanna Earley:

I have finally found time to do an in-situ update of this area.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/44739170#map=17/50.84487/-0.98293
12016-04-01 11:59:58 UTCSK53 Peak shown by node 2462433296 doesn't look right. Can you remember whch imagery you used?
22016-04-01 14:16:36 UTCZalitoar Hi J! I can't remember I guess that I used Bing imagery. We've now in Ushuaia area aerial imagery from the (argentine) National Geographic Institute also.
12016-04-01 11:49:12 UTCSK53 The English name of Tierra del Fuego is Tierra del Fuego: there is no translation like "Fire Ireland" in any regular usage.
22016-04-01 12:15:50 UTCjptolosa87 I didn't add the tag name:en of Tierra del Fuego, but thanks for notice it.
12016-03-22 09:09:30 UTCSK53 Many thanks for this correction. I think I originally surveyed it from a bus trip up Gordan Road and must have misjudged which crossroads it was at.

I've now added some buildings around the shop. Any other corrections or additions in this area would be very welcome, as its not that close to where...
22016-03-23 21:50:44 UTCalexkemp Thanks for the changes & info.

How did you add the buildings? Did you simply trace satellite imagery? The buildings seem a long way from the road (Lou's shops butt up onto the pavement with zero gap).
As a small comment, the Mini-Market is on the extreme corner. Lou has 2 other shops next do...
32016-03-23 22:00:10 UTCalexkemp Sorry! Other 2 shops are EAST-side of the mini-market (opposite side to town-centre).
42016-03-24 15:24:16 UTCSK53 Yes I trace from aerial imagery, but the road widths are conventional according to scale (so they'll tend to be wider than reality at smaller scales and too narrow at larger scales. Mapping all the details of pavements, road widths etc is still a step too far. Although in principle the widths of urb...
12016-02-15 20:15:30 UTCJohnny Mapperseed Hey Bud. Lake Huron is not merely a lake. It is a GREAT Lake.

The wiki seems to disagree with itself because https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Great_Lakes this says that the lakes are to be tagged as natural=coastline.

Are you certain your change was correct?
22016-02-21 11:59:33 UTCjptolosa87 The wiki seem suggest tag all lakes as natural=water: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcoastline#What_about_lakes.3F

There are a lot of "large lakes" tagged as natural=water.

Here you can see Lake Ontario was tagged as natural=water since august 2015 not for me: http:...
32016-03-18 22:14:15 UTCSK53 It would have been nice before you made this change if you were aware of the considerable discussion over many years as to why the Great Lakes were mapped as coastline. See for example this discussion on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/3z7w9d/where_are_the_great_lakes/ and jus...
42016-03-18 23:37:23 UTCjptolosa87 Hello SK53, I'm sorry, apparently I had to read more about it. Before my changeset I didn't know that it was a community decision tag Great Lakes as natural=coastline. But I found strange to see Lake Ontario tagged natural=water and Lake Superior tagged both ways. I thought I was helping with a mult...
12016-03-18 12:32:27 UTCSK53 I notice that when adding footpaths you are adding foot=designated. You may not be aware but there is another, more useful, tag for identifying Public Rights of Way. This is designation with typical values of public_footpath, public_bridleway, byway and restricted_byway. If there's any chance of rev...
22016-03-18 19:43:28 UTCidf000 I didn't know those designations existed. You seem to be able to add random tags so I've just used the one's Potlatch offers rather than invent my own or use a potentially bad one.

We could do with a UK Best Practice document for those of use not up to speed.

I've added about 300km of footpat...
32016-03-18 20:49:57 UTCSK53 I think that Potlatch offers a box for "Official Classification" which gets translated into the designation tag. (I usually use the advanced mode so not absolutely sure).

It's a bit difficult to point to a satisfactory Best Practice document because all the very active footpath mappers...
12016-03-17 12:46:07 UTCSomeoneElse Would it be possible to explain what the change here actually was? "Solve coastline error lines" doesn't really describe it. the last two changesets affecting http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/404032475/history are "Fixing boundary..." and "Solve coastline...", so I su...
22016-03-17 12:54:17 UTCSK53 Yes more detailed comments would be appreciated. We only realised 2 days ago that the Western Isles are a complete mess: there are likely to be coastline & boundary problems as we work to get islands to actually fit in the boundary. For reference when I started working on this again this morning...
32016-03-17 12:58:09 UTCGinaroZ Doesn't help the confusion when the changeset has coastline changes in the Western Isles and also Italy!
42016-03-17 18:11:28 UTCjptolosa87 In this changeset I put source "OSM Inspector". Then you can know that I solve errors in coastline lines (like intersections with itself): http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=coastline&lon=-7.28129&lat=57.13217&zoom=14&opacity=1.00&overlays=coastline,coastline_error_li...
12016-03-15 09:35:38 UTCSK53 Using Google Maps is not permissible for adding data to OpenStreetMap. I note that many of your boundary changes elsewhere in the world have been erroneous. I would be very surprised if you have expertise on the minutae of the boundaries of San Francisco, New Territories & the City of London as ...
12016-03-14 14:20:31 UTCSK53 444 N Wabash was already present as a building (sourced from Chicago Open Data). There are now two buildings at this location (with different numbers of levels too, 5 & 6).

The use of highway=elevator with a building tag also looks odd (the render assumes the whole area is dedicated to an el...
22016-03-14 16:31:32 UTCrandy777 Mapping the individual accessible entrances lifts, elevators, offices, bathrooms and everything else is the reason for the attempts to tag this. The project though is for the entire loop so we had some initial meetings with the City of Chicago Mayor's Office for People with Disabilities to plant th...
32016-03-14 16:35:45 UTCrandy777 Let me give this some thought and come back to it. My mind is also working on the various levels of tunnels, upper and lower streets and multiple addresses within buildings.
42016-03-14 16:51:37 UTCSK53 I'd suggest contacting the US Chapter of OSM direct. I'm aware of some sophisticated mapping for disabled access in various University campuses in the US: it's quite likely that at least one of these has been reported at a conference.

Otherwise checkout the German wheelmap site (http://wheelmap.o...
12016-03-12 19:04:11 UTCSK53 I'm not sure if you are aware, but using Google imagery & other resource to contribute to OpenStreetMap is not allowed. Firstly it contravenes Google's terms of service. Secondly, it probably uses imagery from Google's suppliers in ways that are not allowed by the agreement that Google has with ...
12016-03-11 00:37:07 UTCDaveF The George is already there.
22016-03-11 09:39:37 UTCSK53 Yes but I find mapping the whole site including the car park as the pub counterintuitive (let alone the non-optimal rendering position of the icon).

I think the usual way is to have a way for the pub restricted to buildings, with ancillary areas: beer gardens, parking etc mapped separately. This ...
32016-03-11 12:04:30 UTCMar Mar I agree with SK53, the proof is that I actually didn't see that the George was already there because the icon was so far away from the building, even less visible than the parking lot also named the George. But hey, these are details, just wanted to put this nice pub on the map...
42016-03-11 13:10:08 UTCDaveF Thanks for the replies

Please don't tag incorrectly to suit a failing of just one renderer. Remember this is a database & their are many different renderings taken from it.

Similar to schools, the amenity=* tag should be a closed polygon encompassing the full area of usage by the organisat...
52016-03-11 13:21:15 UTCSK53 No, this is a genuine difference in how people choose to map pubs, not "mapping for the renderer".

I can see the advantages of mapping the whole area : relationships are easily determined, but it has never been obvious to me (or many other mappers) that a pub car park is a pub. If I tho...
62016-03-11 14:12:49 UTCEdLoach The wiki suggests that amenity=pub should go on the node *or* the building. "If the whole building is used for this feature and its footprint is present in OSM, you can apply the tags on the area if you prefer" which is different to schools. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3...
72016-03-11 15:27:03 UTCDaveF @SK53
The reason Mar Mar added amenity=pub (well, restaurant actually), not only to the building but as a node, was his failure to notice the boundary & the icon in both the render & the editor, not due to tagging choice .
'Retail' isn't a substitute for defining a boundary of individual p...
82016-03-11 15:58:59 UTCEdLoach So should the amenity=place_of_worship tag across the road be on the whole of the church grounds rather than just the building?
92016-03-11 16:23:10 UTCDaveF Good question, & one I've thought about but come to no concrete conclusions. I believe there should be some kind of tag, be it amenity=place_of_worship or some other tag, to define the extent of a place of worship's property which could encompass things such as the building, graveyards, church h...
102016-03-11 16:53:24 UTCSK53 I suggest we move this conversation to talk-gb. There are interesting aspects of how we tag areas associated with various POIS: and obviously at least two different approaches.
112016-03-11 17:10:00 UTCDaveF Yes, but I think Tagging is the more appropriate forum.

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I need to clarify I reverted the edit, not due to 'tagging choices', but that there were three different George Pubs. All Mar Mar's additional tags have been added to the existing way. Between us we've made the OSM database more accur...
122016-03-11 17:23:04 UTCSK53 Yes I understand why it was reverted: I was just particularly interested in seeing a pub mapped this way, and then realising that we have (at least) 2 different approaches in the UK.

Personally this is a talk-gb issue. By all means pass it on to tagging, but I don't place great faith on their jud...
12016-03-10 15:35:44 UTCSK53 As a non-Indonesian I do not know what hospital:type=C might mean. I would suggest using a longer string so that it is easier to relate to hospitals elsewhere.
12016-03-02 13:19:31 UTCSK53 I've just added the Architectural Association on the W side of Bedford Square. It would be nice to grab the other house numbers next time you're in the area. Also I think there are a few Blue Plaques (e.g., https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blue_Plaque,_13_Bedford_Square_-_geograph.org.uk_-_60...
22016-03-02 13:37:59 UTCAmaroussi Darn, I missed it!
12016-02-23 19:30:59 UTCSK53 Great to see your first edit! Details like this need locals to keep things up to date, although mapping closed pubs is a regrettably common occurrence.

You can also add an area on the open land formerly occupied by the pub and add the tag landuse=brownfield.
22016-02-24 16:16:03 UTCJames_Wirral I've done this now.... I think/I hope!
12016-02-20 16:12:12 UTCtrigpoint Historic pubs do not really belong in OSM, we aim to map what exists today.
There is a project http://www.openhistoricalmap.org which is based on OSM where you can add historic item.
Cheers Phil
22016-02-21 10:33:23 UTCSK53 @trigpoint has drawn my attention to this. If the buildings still exist I would advocate mapping them as polygons, tagged building=pub (provided this was what they were built for). On a general basis I'd agree with trigpoint, but I see no harm in adding a limited amount of historical info providing ...
12016-02-19 21:21:07 UTCSK53 Did you not note the pub in Waltham when you did this survey
22016-02-20 09:53:58 UTCPink Duck I think I recall there being one at the junction but was distracted by driving and an incident with an old lady and postman at the time arguing.
32016-02-20 12:51:36 UTCPink Duck I've added The Royal Horseshoes, that appears to still be active. The Marquis of Granby nearby permanently closed according to WhatPub.com.
12016-02-12 22:07:40 UTCSomeoneElse What's the source of the name "Lonesome" on https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3938408784 ?
22016-02-19 15:07:52 UTCSK53 Must say when I lived in South London I never heard this name (and its sufficiently quirky that if I had I'd have remembered very distinctly). I would have called all of this area Streatham Vale.
12016-02-15 09:17:52 UTCSK53 The RMSM may not be a barracks, but it is certainly not a school as the tag is generally used on OSM: i.e., a place for education of 3-18 year olds. I have changed this back to landuse=military & added mlitary=training_establishment
12016-02-10 05:12:29 UTCWarin61 Way 40510826 looks to be tennis courts on Bing Imagery .. not netball and certainly not football.
22016-02-12 12:29:24 UTCSK53 This was mapped way before Bing imagery was available. Things may have changed of course, but as usual the best answer is a ground survey.
12016-02-07 14:00:02 UTCtrigpoint Hi
Do you have any evidence that these tramlines are still visible on the ground, http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3300987 suggests they aren't.
Please do not copy things that no longer exist from old maps as all that does is spoil the map for other users and in areas such a London add clutter whi...
22016-02-07 14:05:04 UTCSK53 These dont exist anymore, are not visible and certainly havent been for at least 20 years (probably nearer 75+). They should not be mapped on OSM. By all means add the historical London Tram Network to OHM, but not to OSM.
32016-02-07 19:12:38 UTCwoodpeck_repair This changeset was fully or in part reverted by changeset 37065420
12016-01-30 00:09:56 UTCSomeoneElse Can you remember what sort of shops http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3278263024 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3278247063 were? They're currently "shop=survey"
22016-01-30 12:02:26 UTCSK53 Yes easy enough as it was a photo survey: clothes & shoes.
12016-01-25 13:46:39 UTCSK53 I hope that before you did this edit that you checked with the original creators of the nodes tagged with building=entrance, notably David Earl. Many of these refer to buildings in Cambridge University, and such tagging may be needed by the in-house university map. It would be a real shame if in tid...
12016-01-20 16:38:56 UTCSK53 You've added the Bury, Manchester & Bolton Canal in this changeset. However, I believe most of this no longer exists on the ground. For instance the section running through the N part of Moses Gate Country Park (i.e., N of Hall Lane) is now just a track. I think other bits of the canal may best ...
12016-01-12 17:46:48 UTCSK53 I wonder if you visited this location & checked whether it is actually a crossing, or just an island in the highway. You have changed the meaning of the tagging in this case.
22016-01-12 18:30:09 UTCGerdP I did only use aerial images, I am not a local. Which node do you mean?
In case of
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2287271006
I don't not see a footway now, so maybe that one is really just an island and not a crossing.
32016-01-12 19:36:18 UTCSK53 The node you changed from highway=island to highway=crossing in Sneinton. I was reviewing old photographs & then noticed the change: which incidentally makes it obvious that you have not seen the said location.
42016-01-13 05:10:51 UTCGerdP Not sure what I should do now. Do you think that my change is wrong, means, doesn't match the current situation ?
52016-01-13 11:58:02 UTCSK53 I would much rather you added a note. First, local mappers can check the tagging: in this case I have a photo & the island has dropped kerbs on either side, so it can be regarded as a crossing. However, it is not a traffic_calming=cushion, which I noted in reviewing my photos. BUT, there is a se...
62016-01-13 12:05:21 UTCGerdP OK, got it. My changeset comment was probably a bit too short,
72016-01-13 12:30:34 UTCSK53 Nope what we'd like you to do is please add a note dont make the edit. That way we can review the tags ourselves & check notes/photos etc. Changing tagging without knowing what is there can change the meaning from what was intended.
82016-01-13 17:31:12 UTCGerdP Seems you are really pissed, no idea why :-(
Of course I have looked at the aerial images before changing the tags, and if I got that right you don't say that I've changed to something wrong.
Anyway, if you say that notes are working in your area: who is we ? What area are you speeking for?
92016-01-14 12:21:57 UTCSK53 Us means the OSM Nottingham community. We have consistently found that changes made by non-local mappers often do not make data better, and frequently make it worse. Even if one local usage is not typical of that in Germany, it is usually highly consistent in the local area and as such useful to loc...
12016-01-14 11:39:07 UTCGerdP Please check: highway=traffic_island is only used by you. I guess you meant traffic_calming=island?
22016-01-14 11:47:53 UTCGerdP sorry, meant only used by you for nodes
32016-01-14 12:12:10 UTCSK53 Yes, I did mean it! OSM has free format tagging. I needed to do quite a lot of work on this to replace erroneous edits by someone.
12016-01-11 14:54:36 UTCSomeoneElse Are you sure that "Liberty of Saffron Hill" is a current suburb? If so, could you actually link to somewhere where that name is currently used - or better still a sign on the ground? I'm fairly familiar with that part of London (though not a local) and have never heard of it before.
22016-01-12 13:57:15 UTCcrossmyloof Hi,

It appeared on OS maps until at least the mid to late 1940s (the newest I can find at the moment). It is correctly the Liberty of Saffron Hill, Hatton Garden, Ely Rents and Ely Place but was always shown on OS Maps as Liberty of Saffron Hill.

As districts/suburbs have no legal significance...
32016-01-12 20:43:51 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Thanks for the reply. OS maps showed (and in some cases still show) lots of "places" that are no longer used as placenames, and in some cases never were. For example, the current OS maps show 4 names for "villages" within a mile of me (and OS historic maps 1 more), yet in ...
42016-01-12 21:42:49 UTCSK53 Just to confirm, this is an old admin unit which ceased to exist in 1866, although a civil parish with roughly the same name continued to exist through to 1930. See wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffron_Hill,_Hatton_Garden,_Ely_Rents_and_Ely_Place and Vision of Britain: http://www.visionof...
12016-01-04 11:08:48 UTCSK53 Changeset comments for this type of edit always appreciated.
22016-01-04 20:42:51 UTCpmailkeey I thought it was 200% obvious !
12015-12-31 14:58:01 UTCSK53 Seems unlikely that you meant bare_rock for http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/387806282!
22015-12-31 17:50:07 UTCdudone Should now be fixed.
Dudley
12015-12-28 19:12:17 UTCSomeoneElse Can you think of any reason why http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/337856541 shouldn't be man_made=reservoir_covered ?
22015-12-28 19:28:47 UTCSK53 No! Looks very odd: accidental reuse of tags from another way?

Point of reference is garden centre where stopped for a coffee.
32015-12-28 19:30:52 UTCSK53 Well can't remember them, but marked as such on OSSV (together with pumping station), so probably noted it was a 'water board' site.
12015-12-23 14:13:20 UTCSomeoneElse Is http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/386672698 really still not complete yet? It's been on the go for a couple of years - I'd have thought it'd be finished by now.
22015-12-23 17:09:25 UTCSK53 Yup, so would I: marking it as still construction might help getting the it finished.
32015-12-24 13:10:25 UTCSomeoneElse Thinking back, I suspect it probably is complete (I'd have marked it as construction when I added the medical centre 18 months ago I suspect). Would need someone walking past to check though.
12015-12-20 12:05:50 UTCKDDA Phewwwwww That was some work!
22015-12-20 15:11:46 UTCSK53 It's closing down imminently, but I eventually realised that the Geograph picture shows it at the end of the building with the garden centre bit beyond. That gave me a chance by looking at the places I'd previously mapped as landuse=retail. I must say I'd hoped the detective work would have been eas...
12015-12-10 10:34:10 UTCSK53 Aztec West is not a village in any usual sense of the word. I think it would be better just to name the area of the Aztec West business park.
22015-12-10 20:37:27 UTCndm >1000 people, church, doctor, newsagent, 2 different coffee chains, Hotel, pub, ponds...

Not entirely clear where Hempton Court, The Quadrant and the rest of the part split.

Signage is "Aztec West" not "Aztec West business park".

It's the same as "Cribbs Causeway...
32015-12-10 21:33:56 UTCSK53 Yes I know its called Aztec West, I have worked there over the years, but unless it's changed a lot it is not a residential area. Lots of industrial/business areas have churches: I can think of over 10 in Nottingham, but it doesnt make them villages.
12015-11-10 20:50:06 UTCSK53 Hi, I'm just adding some more residential roads in Katsina city, and looking at Bing this one seems unpaved http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/363735160, but you tagged it as paved. Before changing the tag I wanted to check to see if you have more up-to-date information.

Thanks,

SK53
12015-11-05 21:00:28 UTCtrigpoint Is http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5061508 really named "A23 Slip Road"?
I somehow doubt it.
Please can you explain this change?
22015-11-06 06:09:15 UTCsoemisch We want to display the routes of services in a map. So we use the data of NaPTAN, in order to find the position of a stop point, thats often not correctly. NaPTAN describe the position with the additional tag "street name".Please have a look at NaPTAN.
We are experimenting. This issue is...
32015-11-06 14:03:18 UTCchillly NaPTAN street names are often unreliable. I have checked about 2000 UK stops by surveying them and I know you should not trust NaPTAN. I would need to see a road sign with 'A23 slip road' on it to use that name in OSM.
42015-11-06 14:11:12 UTCSK53 I would back chillly up here: when there is no street name some local authorities maintaining NaPTAN data seem to feel that this field must be filled even when there is no corresponding actual name. In these cases the relevant tag to use is description. If a NaPTAN name does not correspond to one in...
12015-11-01 10:33:43 UTCpnorman It looks like this removed information and din't replace it. Should it be undone?
22015-11-01 10:36:12 UTCkarussell Sorry, I've placed a note to avoid loosing information, I'm not unsure how to map it. Would you help?
32015-11-01 10:40:42 UTCSK53 Never replace tagged information with a note. At the very least add a description= or note= tag. But in practice the only really acceptable edit is to change the perfectly understandable prior value with the relevant conditional tags. Relatively few users (myself included) know the syntax of these, ...
42015-11-01 10:46:59 UTCkarussell Okay, so please undo.
12015-10-30 10:03:18 UTCwill_p You have added the postcode NG2 3AA to Nottingham Mail Centre. This appears wrong to me, because the mail centre is in the NG9 postcode area. I don't doubt mail for the postcode you added is processed here, but it is certainly not the postcode of the mail centre itself.
22015-10-30 20:19:39 UTCGuy This is a Boots PO Box number for the mail centre: whether it should be the Boots site at "Thane Road West" I don't know. According to doogal.co.uk the postcode (PC) is at the mail centre. Mail centres often have multiple PCs, I would expect this one is NG9 nxx (if it is in NG9) where n is...
32015-10-31 15:45:48 UTCSK53 Please dont add postcodes which dont have real geographical content to such buildings. There are probably hundreds of postcodes co-located at this building, none of which correspond to the postcode for the building. By adding such postcodes you will make it very difficult for people who use postcode...
42015-10-31 16:07:23 UTCSK53 Thinking about it, I suspect that NG2 1AA is a postcode associated originally with the Pennyfoot St location (or possibly even Station Street), which has been parked at the delivery office instead of being reused.
52015-10-31 16:27:12 UTCchillly doogal.co.uk is not a valid source for OSM. He releases his CODE as PD (not really possible in the UK but still ...) but copyright remains on all other content.
62015-10-31 16:34:37 UTCRichard doogal.co.uk is a direct interface to Google's geocoder data. See (for example) http://www.doogal.co.uk/ShowMap.php?postcode=OX7%203PH, open up the web inspector in your browser, and look at all the requests to maps.googleapis.com. This data can't be used in OSM.
72015-11-01 07:25:38 UTCzool dear Guy, I write on behalf of the OSM Data Working Group. This discussion has been sent our way due to concern over data derived from the Google API (via doogal.co.uk) potentially being added to OpenStreetMap. As Richard points out above, this data can't be used within OSM. See http://wiki.openstre...
12015-10-31 16:02:37 UTCSK53 I very much doubt that the security guard checkpoint at the entrance to the Boots site has its own housenumber. Furthermore the Nottingham City Council GIS (which contains all Nottingham addresses) doesn't have any entry for "1 Thane Road". I'd be interested to know what your source was fo...
12015-10-30 21:07:24 UTCSK53 This is not a correction, it is the conversion of one tag into a different one with a different meaning. unsigned_ref contains a known ref value which is not signed. The tag I added had the meaning that the ref was not known because it was unsigned.
22015-10-30 22:48:57 UTCChrissW-R1 Sorry for this. I had changed it because "unsigned:ref" only appears in this two features in the complete database!

But you're right, this is the correct tagging schema and so I'll revert it.
32015-10-30 22:59:54 UTCSK53 Yeah, what I wanted apparently was ref:signed=no, but I couldn't remember it as its not something I've used, but its useful to show that the ref is not available even after ground survey
42015-10-30 23:17:43 UTCChrissW-R1 I agree to your decision. You entered a prefix to the key like abandoned or disused.
12015-10-29 19:52:48 UTCGerdP bitte prüfen: node 3416433524
highway=steil klingt nach
incline=* für den Weg?
22015-10-29 19:57:24 UTCSK53 Thanks, was highway=stile.
32015-10-29 19:58:58 UTCGerdP which should be barrier=stile now ;-)
42015-10-29 20:09:39 UTCSK53 Knew there was something missing
12015-10-29 09:39:10 UTCsouthglos Hi

Just noticed that this changeset added a load of man_made=surveillance / note="On no entry sign pole" by Westbourne Terrace near Sussex Gardens; is it really that Big-Brotherish, or should they be trees?

Cheers.
22015-10-29 12:10:09 UTCSK53 Good spot; I imagine they are trees! They'll be London Planes too.
12015-10-25 01:03:54 UTCJedrzej Pelka http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Roger Browne/diary/36175
22015-10-25 10:54:48 UTCSK53 I would just like to add that deleting 'dangerous' paths is not an activity of which I approve. Accurately tagging such paths yes, deleting information about something which exists Working to render paths which are not suitable for the ordinary pedestrian would also be helpful. There is a whole com...
32015-10-28 11:09:01 UTCAndreas Moeller maybe I am unexperienced mapper and maybe there is an OSM ethos. But local people living in tenerife asked me to delete the path because there is NO path and the area is extremely dangerous. So, life is more important for me than such an ethos. I was 1 month ago on Tenerife and in Igueste de San And...
42015-10-28 12:29:55 UTCSK53 OSM can never be regarded as wholly reliable: anyone using any map as the sole navigation aid for paths in mountainous country is just asking for trouble. For instance for several years we had a path marked on the Hoernli ridge of the Matterhorn, and people mark Via Ferrata as paths to enable them t...
52015-11-01 19:15:46 UTCAndreas Moeller I have seen that the path is visible again. The locals mentioned above are not really local. They are German hikers and experts in the region (some of live on Tenerife since 10 or 20 years). They urged me (and I was in the Anaga region last August / September) to remove the path. The simple reason i...
12015-10-28 12:16:16 UTCSK53 Great to see some tidying up of footpaths around here: they were added long ago from 1940s maps in the hope of surveying them. Turned out there's far too much to do closer to N'ham. If the one you have added is a public right of way it helps if you also add a designation tag, see OSM wiki for values...
12015-10-28 11:54:58 UTCSK53 Thanks for adding yourself to OpenStreetMap. I dont recall any 1 storey buildings located precisely in this area, nor can I see them in aerial photos. I would have last surveyed here around March 2013. I notice that there are numerous other tenants located in Ayr Street Workshops, and that the postc...
12015-10-22 18:22:48 UTCSK53 You deleted a lot of data in this edit, at least some of which appears to be valid. You may have wished to remove some things shown on the main OSM map, for a map needed for your own purposes. In which case you were probably unaware that in doing so you removed data shared by everyone.

We will mo...
12015-10-18 07:17:44 UTCGerdP please review:
the tag highway=aslb
on node 662550884
looks like a typo, I've no idea what it means
and it is only used once in OSM
22015-10-18 09:19:49 UTCSK53 A direct link would really help instead of having either a) to cut-and-paste the value, or b) step through the edited nodes. In fact I can guess fairly straightforwardly that this should be highway=asl and that the key 'b' should have added source=Bing.
32015-10-18 09:22:16 UTCSK53 Fixed
42015-10-18 09:59:51 UTCGerdP thanks, I'll paste full links in future comments
52015-10-18 16:28:54 UTCSK53 Yes, do please. As most of the edits were shops I wouldn't have guessed exactly what it was immediately.
12015-10-15 15:14:51 UTCSK53 Hi, You seem to have deleted from OpenStreetMap many of the main points of interest in Inverary. I imagine this is because you thought you were editing a private copy of the data. You weren't, so now no-one using OSM worldwide can find features such as Inverary Jail, or even the place itself.

Pl...
22015-10-15 16:37:31 UTCSK53 As you haven't been in touch. I have now reverted all your edits. This is done to avoid having to reinstate all the previously existing data by hand. As you might imagine this involves contributions by several people over the years.
12015-10-15 09:31:15 UTCSK53 You need to stick a building=yes tag on this for it to show up.
12015-10-08 17:59:04 UTCchillly ou seem to have deleted a large number of residential roads. Did you mean to do this? Do you need any help to recover this?
22015-10-08 17:59:11 UTCSK53 You seem to have deleted lots of roads in King's Heath. I'm sure this was either by accident, or because you are not aware that edits on OSM affect everyone. This note is just to let you know that I am undoing this edit.
12015-10-05 07:43:10 UTCSK53 Can you please use source tags on ways & changesets. You have added Tong Moor Side as a name after another one of your MapBox colleagues added a note about it. However Bing imagery gives no clues about the name. Neither of you are local mappers, so I would like to know the basis for changing the...
22015-10-05 09:51:54 UTCsrividya_c Thank you for your feedback.
I changed the road name using https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/postcode/bd112af as the source. I missed adding the source. Here https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/about/datasources is the data source for this. Can you please suggest where and how I can add this source now?
32015-10-05 09:59:23 UTCSK53 This is an inadmissible data source It contains copyright information. I'm afraid I have to revert this change.
42015-10-05 10:08:54 UTCsrividya_c I see the copyright source from OSM page http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright and the data source of the page https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/about/datasources both mention the Crown copyright attribution from Ordinance Survey. It will be good to know why it is inadmissible.
52015-10-05 10:14:37 UTCSK53 OK I've now reverted it, and re-added the name from Ordnance Survey StreetView OpenData. This may have been the source on Streetview, but I would strongly suggest using OSM-based tools & facilities for such things. We have tiles of OS Streetview, missing roads (OS Locator), and OSLocator Musical...
62015-10-05 10:20:57 UTCSK53 Because the precise source isn't clear. It does clearly state it contains Royal Mail data (CodePoint Open) which is inadmissable for OSM. As I state above, volunteers from OSM have gone to a great deal of trouble to create tools to help in situations like this: such tools we know to be clean and des...
72015-10-05 10:21:37 UTCSK53 I should add another reason for adding sources & using OSM tools is that it is far faster for other mappers to check that a change is reasonable.
82015-10-05 10:42:21 UTCsrividya_c Thank you. Will use these tools and use the right source while making changes lie this.
92015-10-05 10:42:32 UTCsrividya_c *like
12015-09-25 16:53:13 UTCSK53 I have a feeling that route 73 goes into the bus station area in front of Euston Station on the Vic->Stoke N direction
22015-09-25 17:51:09 UTCAmaroussi I am sure that the regular bus stop for 73 is the same bus stop as route 30, the last time I was there. Note that for anyone not aware yet, the public transport scheme has changed recently, we now map stop flags and stop positions separately. Also, some buses stop a bit back if there's a queue, if a...
32015-09-27 19:45:54 UTCSK53 Thanks. It is right now. 'Cos the Circle line was messed up yesterday I ended up boarding this at Euston Square. At some stage will load photos from top deck between Euston & Stoke Newington. I like adding stops to relations, but stop positions are IMO a waste of time (not least because there mi...
42015-09-27 20:27:57 UTCAmaroussi Oh, I forgot to say that impromptu diversions, like skipping the bus station, may occur (albeit rare) if it is necessary to provide an even frequency, or the bus station is heavily congested.
52015-09-27 21:10:16 UTCSK53 Yeah, I think SomeoneElse & others have pointed out that there are buses with no routes other than the stops need to be visited in order.
12015-09-15 08:13:08 UTCSK53 In this changeset you have added a place=neighbourhood of New Egham. This has recently been queried in an OSM Note. Certainly if asked I would have assumed this was part of Englefield Green, just as is shown on OS StreetView. I wonder what evidence you have for this name: I am aware that many of you...
22015-09-15 08:35:47 UTCSomeoneElse It's a while since I've been to Egham but while Englefield Green is definitely signposted from there I've never seen signs to "New Egham".
See also https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/434969 .
12015-09-12 09:06:41 UTCSomeoneElse The change to http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/166727689/history looks wrong to me. Just using semicolons to combine values is often not the best way to decide how things should be tagged. If something is both a pub and a restaurant I won't tag it as "amenity=pub;restaurant", I'll survey...
22015-09-12 14:55:27 UTCAury88 Hi SomeoneElse.
this specific case is an error. the area is only a (portion of) surface dedicated to fitness activity.there seem there is not a fitness_centre (amenity and leisure are both wrong) and there is not a dedicated area...in this case I think also leisure=pitch is wrong but I'm not sure. ...
32015-09-12 15:15:02 UTCSomeoneElse Actually, I'm not convinced about fitness_centre _or_ pitch for these - someone (I think that it was SK53, who has actually edited this object previously) did dig out a more appropriate tag. The tagging list will, I'm sure, have lots of suggestions.
42015-09-12 15:35:32 UTCAury88 name value also seem a description (and the same for the other near outdoor gym ) I'm contacting SK53.
Also I'm trying to import this changeset but I'm having problem with the .osc...a name value seem to corrupt the file (due to the "&" in it ). do you know how to handle this ?
52015-09-14 12:56:40 UTCSomeoneElse For info (re the Bulwell example) http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3294148133 might serve as a prototype for mapping individual bits of kit within a leisure=pitch area (see also http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/322575618 )
62015-09-14 13:05:21 UTCSK53 Fine, I agree the tagging could do with improving. I suspect adding fitness_centre was a quick fix in order to be able to remove the descriptive name. In this case it would have been far better just to add a note rather than change the tagging: we're quite able to improve stuff if its brought to our...
12015-09-13 09:23:24 UTCSK53 You added a major power line across the middle of Stockport in this edit. I saw no evidence of it on the ground. Is it underground? What are the sources you used to identify this?
22015-11-15 14:21:31 UTCSomeoneElse @SK53 I've added a note https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/468953 , but it might be worth just removing this. I don't remember it.
12015-08-27 13:20:44 UTCSomeoneElse Hi Jerry,
Which router was it that didn't understand bicycle access through the gates here?
22015-08-27 13:31:42 UTCSK53 Strava, this one specifically http://labs.strava.com/routing-errors/#250/9/-1.34445/53.26357
12015-08-26 19:11:51 UTCSK53 Must say I was a bit disappointed to see landuse=forest added back on the tags for White River NF. Removing it really makes a huge difference around the ski resorts of Summit County. I appreciate other areas become rather white, but from talk-us I understood that removing the forest tags is the way ...
12015-08-21 18:34:39 UTCSK53 According to a recently posted note the ferry between Newnham on Severn and Arlingham stopped shortly after WWII. You havent tagged the changeset or the way wtih source info. I'd be interested to know the source for this ferry.
22015-08-24 19:00:29 UTCAlex McKee Hmm. The lack of source info was sloppy of me. Local knowledge and NPE.

The note is correct - the Ferry doesn't run today. If you look at the way in question it was (and is) tagged with "abandoned", which I think was the suggested tagging for "gone" historic features at the t...
12015-08-20 15:20:37 UTCSomeoneElse You're still adding information that at first glance appears to be licensed in a manner not compatible with OSM. In http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/33256350 you said you'd contact the data publishers and the wider OSM community; did either of these actions actually happen?
22015-08-20 15:40:03 UTCSK53 More to the point nearly all these hill databases are derived from copyright OSGB data. So even if the db owners gave permission, the data will contain OSGB derived data. That's why many heights come from NPE/Provisional 1:25k maps which are out of copyright. Equally most of this info can be merged ...
32015-08-20 21:47:19 UTCCYM1988 Hi, I have spoken with the publishers about the data and the copyright issues surrounding its use in OSM. The elevation data used in the database was collected by surveying teams using GPS equipment of the organization itself, rather than from second hand data from OSGB. I'm aware that many database...
42015-08-20 21:57:22 UTCSomeoneElse Re the licence (see http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License for details) what licence did they make the information to you available under? The "Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License" mentioned on their download page is unlikely to be compatible with OSM as we can't guaran...
12015-08-17 14:02:32 UTCSomeoneElse Hi Arun - are you sure that https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/329032015 is really an unclassified road? It doesn't particularly look like one from the imagery. What I suspect it is is a farm track with a "public right of way" over it (given that someone's named in "leeds country way...
22015-08-17 17:04:17 UTCPlaneMad The section leads only to the Airport service road apart from the couple of properties and the footpath branching out. There are no ways that branch into farms to suggest this is primarily for agricultural use.

Have been trying to understand UK roads better and would really appreciate to know why...
32015-08-17 18:08:22 UTCSK53 First dont rely on the wiki "tracks are for agricultural use". This may be applicable in Germany. In Britain I suspect we will use track or service for any non-public ways which vehicles can be seen to traverse. Most indeed will be for agricultural purposes (including things like Pheasant ...
42015-08-17 18:22:24 UTCPlaneMad > For instance many railway lines will have access tracks used by maintenance crews.

This should be an unpaved service road, no?
52015-08-17 21:40:34 UTCSomeoneElse Personally, I'd map railway access tracks as "highway=track" as for example at http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/30010081 , but obviously it depends on what they look like - some are more like service roads, and there are lots that are just footpaths. Here it's difficult to tell from just ...
62015-08-18 05:55:36 UTCPlaneMad Ok this seems a little at odds with how i'm understanding highway tags, that they primarily define function of a way in the road network, otherwise most unpaved roads in developing countries would end up being tagged as tracks.

If tracks in UK don't follow the wiki guidelines of being for agro/fo...
72015-08-18 10:10:21 UTCSomeoneElse slightly related - a discussion on the Dutch forum: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=32342&p=1
12015-08-06 01:10:37 UTCSomeoneElse Like you did with Walton Wood elsewhere, you've also broken Cuckney Hay Wood in this changeset, so that it's impossible to edit. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/359674431/history was previously a polygon of a specific type of trees; you've made it into one edge of a relation. Similarly there's no...
22015-08-06 09:05:12 UTCrbuch703 "http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/359674431/history was previously a polygon of a specific type of trees; you've made it into one edge of a relation."

I actually I made it into an edge in *two* relations: relation http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5397178 still represents your polyg...
32015-08-06 09:10:46 UTCrbuch703 "Similarly there's no indication now that https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/359674428/history forms part of Cuckney Hay Wood at all - this was present (see http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=5353764 ) until your edit."

That is true, but is unavoidable with the current specific...
42015-08-06 09:13:01 UTCrbuch703 "I would at some stage like to continue mapping both of these areas but it will be impossible to do so until you undo your changes."

Have you tried using a different editor? I find it reasonably efficient to work with multipolygons in the iD editor, and find it quite efficient in JOSM.
52015-08-06 09:19:49 UTCrbuch703 As a side note, to me the underlying issue here seems to be that you are trying to use object hierarchy semantics ("OSM entity X has property A. And OSM entity Y is a part of entity X, inheriting all its properties and adding property D"), but OSM has currently no way to validly specify su...
62015-08-06 09:23:21 UTCSomeoneElse (re JOSM) I regularly use it for tasks that it can manage, but its waypoint support is abysmal (see https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/7675/josm-is-it-possible-to-convert-an-individual-waypoint-in-a-gpx-file-to-a-node ) so it simply isn't an option for most of the survey-based mapping that I d...
72015-08-06 09:25:55 UTCSomeoneElse Re "For a valid multipolygon, two rings *must not* overlap" - can you explain why not? What real-world problems does it actually cause?
82015-08-06 09:53:51 UTCrbuch703 Being invalid practically means that multipolygon parsers (e.g. those in osm2pgsql, imposm, etc.) will go into quirks mode and use *heuristics* (=guesses) to make it into a valid multipolygon. This may mean that they will just ignore the inner ring - which is possibly what you intend them to do for ...
92015-08-06 10:18:53 UTCSomeoneElse There's lots of "mays" and "coulds" above - like I mentioned previously on the "Walton Wood" changeset ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32932368 where I explained the usage of osm2pgsql's --multi-gemetry flag ) I'm reasonably familiar with osm2pgsql's historical...
102015-08-06 11:22:05 UTCrbuch703 'There's lots of "mays" and "coulds" above'
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- Yes, and these are exactly the point: The multipolgon specification requires valid mulitpolygons to have certain properties, and unambiguously specifies the semantics for those valid multipolygons. Thus, as long as multipolygon pa...
112015-08-06 11:51:44 UTCSomeoneElse Currently the way that you've mapped these simply doesn't represent the situation on the ground. If I don't hear a _specific example_ of the problems caused by the original mapping here I'll change Walton Wood and Cuckney Hay Wood back as they originally were when I next need to edit them. Because...
122015-08-06 13:44:01 UTCSK53 I'm all for reverting this changeset. OSM is about mapping things, not dealing with how OSM data is processed by tools. If tools cannot deal with real-world cases then fix the tools not the data. As it existed the data was previously treated as expected by osm2pgsql. If osm2pgsql changes the way it ...
132015-08-06 15:40:01 UTCrbuch703 @SK53: I completely disagree. Yes, OSM is about mapping things. But mapping things is all about giving meaning. And meaning depends on existing specifications - even if there are only de-facto specifications. If you create something that is explicitly forbidden by a specification - and usually for g...
142015-08-06 15:41:12 UTCrbuch703 @SomeoneElse: My specific example is this: Mappers ocasionally incorrectly set the roles for multipolygon members, and so some holes erroneously become "outer" members. There are probably thousands of these types of multipolygons out there. But to a piece of software they look exactly like...
152015-08-06 17:32:52 UTCSomeoneElse Re "But to a piece of software they look exactly like your sub-woods!":

According to http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=5353764 the http://osm.org/browse/changeset/32539732 version of the relation clearly shows one multipolygon relation with multiple way members with the role ...
12015-08-02 18:53:31 UTCSK53 Excellent, the sort of thing only someone local might pick up.

If you connect the two ends of the path to the roads (Ravenwood & Knowles Avenue) then this can also be used for pedestrian routing. Ask if you need specific advice how to do this (either here, OSM messaging or email: SK53 dot OS...
12015-07-31 15:34:57 UTCSK53 Many thanks: exactly the sort of extra detail we hope people will add. If it is also signposted with a public footpath sign, you can also add the tag designation=public_footpath; if not leave it as it is.
22015-07-31 15:45:59 UTCchillly Welcome to OSM. The footpath you have added is indeed welcome.

You have not connected it to Pelham Road. Looking at the aerial imagery (I don't know the area) may I suggest that you make a kink at the footpath beside Pelham Rd and join it to the road at the crossing. You could add a highway=cros...
12015-07-31 12:38:45 UTCSK53 Wikipedia is not a suitable source for adding data to OSM. It may well contain copyright information. Please also have a look at long and unresolved discussions of use of name:ua, name;ru etc for British placenames.
12015-07-30 18:11:48 UTCSK53 Any idea why you deleted the PRoW leaving Foolow at S edge of village towards Eyam? Or was this just a mistake?
22015-07-30 18:47:12 UTCdudone Thanks for letting me know. This was a mistake. I've redrawn it.
12015-07-24 11:08:04 UTCSK53 I noted that you changed old1_xxx tags to disused:xxx. Please note that in the Nottingham area old_xxx is actually a more common convention, and in this case the tagging is representing more than one previous occupant. The original church was Chelsea Baptist Church from inception to around 2005; the...
12015-07-19 20:46:15 UTCchillly I think a little respect for experience is due here. Joining a way to an area is not common practice.
22015-07-20 20:12:35 UTClxbarth Chilly - looking for a good solution here to make this routeable, and most importantly avoid logically impossible one ways. Right now there are two: one leading from the parking lot, the other one leading to it. Not in love with connecting highways to parking lot areas either.

I suggest to just t...
32015-07-20 20:33:26 UTCMarex Either solution is fine with me. From an application standpoint mapping parking aisles is more precise.
42015-07-20 20:36:46 UTCchillly My handle is chillly (three els).

Why would you be worried about routing around a car park of a cemetery? It can only be a destination not a mid-route point.

If you want to draw the service roads in the car park, great! Next time you're in Cottingham feel free to survey the site. Say "Hi...
52015-07-20 20:53:51 UTCSK53 @lxbarth Changing valid, albeit incomplete data on OSM by removing information, as is happening all too frequently with this program, is poor practice. I refer you to my answer on the Help site https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/44227/car-park-entranceexits.

Demanding routing of minor servi...
12015-07-20 18:37:39 UTCSK53 I'm rather puzzled by these additional roads you added. From memory it's not possible to turn from New Quay directly into Chapel Street & only left turns allowed in coming from Chapel St. A quick check on the Bing imagery confirms this memory. Has the junction been changed recently?

If not, I...
12015-07-07 15:05:30 UTCSK53 Thanks for this update. I had noticed that the PO on Lace St/Beeston Road is closed. If the Bargain Booze is labelled as such outside use that for the name, and also add a shop tag: presumably shop=alcohol, but possibly shop=convenience. The shop & amenity tags should do all the work for finding...
12015-06-29 13:53:09 UTCSK53 Damn too busy to make this edit myself!
12015-06-03 05:18:45 UTCramyaragupathy Source for this should be http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5854-Sanrock-Terrace-Dr-Montgomery-AL-36116/118933070_zpid/
22015-06-03 10:05:40 UTCSomeoneElse Is the use of Zillow's listings permissable licence-wise? Their main page says "© 2006-2015 Zillow". Their main terms page http://www.zillow.com/corp/Terms.htm would suggest not, unless we have some specific agreement in place (as with Bing imagery) to re-use their data?
32015-06-05 12:07:28 UTCSK53 Note also OSM expects names to be fully expanded, so "Dr" should be "Drive". A better source would be the latest TIGER data available as a layer in the editors
42015-06-11 14:38:23 UTCramyaragupathy SK53: Thanks for bringing it up! I have made the necessary changes.
52015-06-11 14:42:31 UTCramyaragupathy SomeoneElse: Thank you for flagging this. The source for the missing name was primarily TIGER 2014 which says `Sanrock Terrace` but seemed incomplete. The external source was only to get the full name `Sanrock Terrace Drive` and not for the location. From my knowledge streetnames cannot be copyright...
62015-06-11 15:35:53 UTCSK53 @ramyaragupathy : streetnames might not be copyrightable but bulk copying from another database is not legal in EU (and not ethical for OSM). Unfortunately bulk copying in this context means 500,000 people doing 1 edit each. After all if we dont follow this rule we have relatively little traction to...
72015-06-12 14:46:26 UTCramyaragupathy @SK53: Thank you for sharing this. Will definitely keep this in mind.
12015-06-09 22:05:49 UTCZbigniew_Czernik fajnie byłoby, gdybyś nie poprawiał geometrii ulic do nieskalibowanego podkładu Bing. Swego czasu wyrysowałem dokładnie ulice w Sandomierzu do podkładu z Geoportalu i widzę, że część poprzesuwałeś.
22015-06-10 07:18:10 UTCSK53 My changes were based on survey & my own GPS traces
32015-06-10 07:22:25 UTCZbigniew_Czernik ok, thanks
42015-06-10 08:56:04 UTCSK53 A more general comment: adding source tags really helps (for instance it would have been obvious that there was another source of aerial imagery in this area). But my Polish edits are only of places I have visited & for which I have GPS traces (and sometimes photos).
12015-06-10 08:49:41 UTCSK53 You appear to have deleted facilities which exist in the grounds of Trinity College. Do you have a reason for doing so?
22015-06-18 13:16:07 UTCSomeoneElse Reverted in http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32050739 . I'm pretty sure the stuff north of Adams Road was still there a couple of months back when I was last there (I'd have noticed if there was a major change - I noticed the building site to the south).
12015-06-09 12:48:35 UTCSomeoneElse Hi - I'm guessing you meant "leaf_type=broadleaved" not "leaf_type \tbroad_leaved" on http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/345895603 et al as per http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:leaf%20type?uselang=en-GB

I've just tidied up a load of mine in Clipstone...
22015-06-09 13:34:13 UTCSK53 Yeah can never remember there are at least 3 options with underscore, hyphen or nowt.
12015-06-04 21:01:23 UTCPeter Dobratz Hi and welcome to OpenStreetMap. You placed a Node in the middle of a building here with tags on it for the A-Boy hardware store, but it turns out this information is already tagged on the building outline. Generally putting the tags on the building outline is considered the preferred approach and...
22015-06-04 21:25:57 UTCPaul Cone Peter, the problem with that approach is if you need to use a derivative of the polygon dataset for other purposes, you will not get everything you need, i.e. because not ALL of the hardware stores have polygons, one must use the point data, too. I understand that having the feature only once is th...
32015-06-04 22:47:34 UTCPeter Dobratz Yes, there will be some hardware stores in OSM as single Nodes and some as Closed-Way polygons. Additionally, there are Relation objects of type multipolygon which might be hardware stores (buildings with a courtyard or multiple buildings). The shop=hardware and contact info tags should be on eith...
42015-06-04 22:51:36 UTCPaul Cone As I said, I'm quite clear that I can convert polygons to points, but then how would you suggest I weed out the duplicates between the points derived from polygons and the points that orginally were points?
52015-06-07 07:27:21 UTCPeter Dobratz We shouldn't be adding duplicate data to the main OSM database on purpose. The "polygon dataset" you speak of is not something that is native the OSM data model, but something that was derived from OSM data. We shouldn't require duplicate data in the OSM database in order to help you wee...
62015-06-07 13:56:59 UTCPaul Cone If the polygon dataset is not something that is native to the OSM dataset, then that makes my point -- there should be one dataset that accurately represents all types of that item, and in this case that would be the points.

My application already has its own ways because they are more accurate a...
72015-06-07 14:10:23 UTCSomeoneElse Just spotted this discussion and thought that it was perhaps worth mentioning that osmconvert (see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmconvert ) can easily extract centroids of OSM ways to make it easy to process. There's no need (in fact in most cases it's actually confusing) to add details both...
82015-06-08 02:17:23 UTCPeter Dobratz I posted on my and there's some discussion there:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Peter%20Dobratz/diary/35170
92015-06-08 09:16:34 UTCSK53 See my recent blog post (http://sk53-osm.blogspot.com/2015/05/retail-outlets-on-openstreetmap.html) about creating a worldwide dataset of retail POIs as centroids using osmconvert. This demonstrates that there is absolutely NO NEED to have everything as nodes.

The addition of a duplicate node for...
102015-06-08 17:24:16 UTCPaul Cone It seems like a lot of work to just get a set of point which represent all hardware stores. Maybe there is "NO NEED" to have them in the raw data but there certainly is a need for a simpler process. I will probably just go buy data from InfoUSA rather than continue to argue this with OSM...
112015-06-08 18:28:18 UTCSK53 If you just want hardware stores use Overpass with the centroid output & you can have them all as JSON, Or even ask me & I can give you a list of hardware stores as centroids (Or you can purchase data from suppliers such as Geofabrik & OpenCageData). OSM is a vast shared database. If you...
12015-05-23 14:05:18 UTCSK53 I wondered why you have removed the name tag from the University of York Heslington Campus. Using name:en is not a substitute for the name tag but something over & above.
12015-05-01 14:36:11 UTCSK53 Someone has commented (http://osm.org/note/356195) that the footpath connecting Mill Place and Fairfield Place edited in this changeset doesn't exist. To me on Bing it more looks like some kind of service road behind the bigger buildings on Mill Place. I see you are still actively editing in the are...
22015-05-05 08:29:31 UTCjoelholdsworth Google streetview is your friend ;)

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.405629,-0.29836,3a,75y,83.77h,79.08t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sztR24w14TOqB5p2DvPp3wA!2e0?hl=en
32015-05-05 08:31:41 UTCjoelholdsworth I think you might be right about the lack of footpath. Also a footpath would be redundant given that there are so many cut-throughs round Mill Place and Mill Street
42015-05-05 08:32:25 UTCjoelholdsworth I think you're correct. This footpath doesn't exist.
52015-05-05 09:19:11 UTCSK53 We dont use Google Street View for verification! There is a risk that such uses makes OSM a derivative work.
12015-05-02 20:56:28 UTCSK53 I suggest you check changeset source tags when doing this kind of edit.

You could also have dropped me a message or a note to the effect that the more widely used tag is bookbinder. I much prefer that approach than just changing tags without asking the original mapper.
12015-04-30 10:43:05 UTCSK53 Can you be careful about not editing very large areas in changesets. I'm sure a parcel of farmland in Scotlands is not necessary for humanitarian mapping in Nepal.

Also please use the tag farmland or farmyard, not farm.
22015-05-01 19:05:35 UTCYoyo123 Sorry, quite new to this. Will try to not do this again
32015-05-01 19:13:30 UTCSK53 Not to worry, but really big edits can be a sign of other problems which can be really confusing (someone recently dragged the corner of a building from Finland to USA).
42015-05-02 20:11:29 UTCYoyo123 Yes, I can imagine. Sorry again. Did some kind of tutorial and seemed like I screwed that part up.
Anyways, 2nd time seemed to go better (or at least noone pointed out my mistakes yet :))
12015-04-26 17:44:12 UTCSK53 Hi thanks for contributing to OSM Mapping for Nepal.

I wonder why you changed the track into Manang into an unclassified road. My latest information from 1 year ago is that there has been little progress with the 'Chinese Road' and no bridges are in place. Unclassified road is only suitable if th...
22015-04-26 17:51:45 UTCApoorvaLal Hi,
A friend of mine who was helping me map hiked the manaslu route up to manang a couple of months ago and said that there is a road is usable for up to 4WD (and hence isn't just a path) up to Manang.
I am, of course, basing this on hearsay. I will confirm this once again and let you know pronto...
32015-04-26 18:12:48 UTCSK53 Great thanks for replying.

My information, based on March 2014, was that the road was "There are no Cars, only Motorbikes, between Dhikur Pokhari and Manang." and in particular that a bridge was missing between Bhratang and Dhikur Pokhari.

I know the road has been under construction ...
12015-04-22 09:30:09 UTCalv The tag not:name=x is a valid tag used in the UK, see for example http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2015/01/fix-that-road-name.html

Please don't remove data.
22015-04-22 14:35:57 UTCSK53 I've now reverted this change. not:name is a) important to show that official maps have the incorrect name and thus allow feedback to them; b) show other mappers that names on open data sources are wrong; and c) is important in derivation of statistics showing missing road names.
12015-04-22 11:41:55 UTCtrigpoint Hi, welcome to OSM.
The names Haulage Yard and Lagoon sound descriptive rather than names.
22015-04-22 12:34:38 UTCLlwyn Hi. Thanks for the welcome :) The lagoon doesn't have a name, it's not common knowledge it's there, we just refer to it as the lagoon. And as for the haulage yard, is it appropriate to name the business?
32015-04-22 14:31:11 UTCSK53 Usually the best way is to find a suitable tag. So a haulage yard typically fits with landuse=depot (not obvious I know). For the lagoon I'd move this over to a description tag rather than a name tag. If you call it locally "The Lagoon" then use a loc_name tag rather than name tag. As an e...
12015-04-14 16:44:18 UTCSK53 Thanks for adding info to OSM.. You might also like to add amenity=dentist, so that things like a search for "dentists near cambridge" will also work.
12015-04-10 19:02:00 UTCSK53 Two things with this change:

1. You have removed information that this used to be a sports centre. We find such information useful in Nottingham, particularly when using Open Data from the city which may not be completely up-to-date.

2. I have no particular objections to the tag lesiure=fitne...
22015-05-13 19:27:42 UTCneuhausr Sorry, had never seen a tag like old_leisure. I added that tag back
12015-03-31 11:54:22 UTCwill_p Hi,

A couple of thoughts about this change:

1. Is 'Derbyshire Land Registry' a suitable source for making changes to OSM? Note that you must only use sources that are compatible with OSM's ODBL licence. This means most copyrighted sources cannot be used.

2. We map what physically exists on...
22015-04-01 02:28:02 UTCAlidmun The Derbyshire Land registry is accessible to anyone in the uk. There is physical barrier there now and is inaccessible. A picture of the barrier can be found published on cyclestreets.net
32015-04-01 15:58:04 UTCSomeoneElse Just to clarify something - if there's no public access along a track but the track physically exists you don't need to "unjoin" the track - just make sure that the access rights on it are correct. There's already an open note http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/152813 suggesting that footp...
42015-04-01 17:55:26 UTCSK53 Accessibility is not the same as permissible to use as a source for OpenStreetMap. Both Ordnance Survey mapping and Google Satellite images are fully accessible to anyone, but in neither case are these sources suitable for OSM. I'm also not clear what you mean by the Derbyshire Land Registry: The La...
52015-04-01 21:44:50 UTCwill_p From memory I believe the CycleStreets photo does show the correct location. It was blocked in a similar way when I surveyed it, hence why I tagged it as private.
The track does physically still exist, even if the gate is blocked by a lump of rock and corrugated iron, so I see no reason to disconn...
62015-05-23 12:01:36 UTCSomeoneElse For info I was there last night; but the footpath west across the golf course (not along the old track) still needs mapping. There are also a bunch of designations for public footpaths that need adding; I'll do that shortly. Also there's actually some confusion as to how long one of the bridleways...
72015-05-23 12:05:46 UTCSomeoneElse For completeness see also http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/152813
12015-03-31 10:54:57 UTCSK53

Welcome & thanks for editing OpenStreetMap. Unfortunately I don't think these individual paths are named "The Big Track" because they could equally be called "Trent Valley Way" (which also runs along these paths). Because of this we have a mechanism for naming routes whic...
12015-03-30 15:09:20 UTCneuhausr another changeset which left a number of ways with incorrect key tags - see OSMI http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=tagging&lon=-79.93033&lat=42.04117&zoom=10&opacity=0.96&overlays=way_with_short_or_long_key
22015-03-30 15:39:29 UTCSK53 thanks, think I've fixed a few (caused by focus of editor being on tag window not edit window). Several probably could do with tiger_reviewed=no being removed
12015-03-27 15:59:16 UTCneuhausr there's a bunch of key typos in this changeset, can you try to review & fix? (I noticed w/ OSM Inspector & did a few)
22015-03-27 20:33:23 UTCSK53 Thanks for the warning.

Hmm, had a quick search and cant see anything particularly dramatic, other than one or two ways with y=Texas, MO. This tag should be deleted (it's one of the useless TIGER Tags). Perhaps you caught any real nasties.

Shame its another yurp person doing the spotting!
32015-03-27 21:15:12 UTCSK53 Hope I've caught them, mainly where "y" replaces a key value.
12015-03-27 15:51:45 UTCSK53 Appears to relate to this closure notice: http://derbyshire.gov.uk/applications/rights_of_way/TempClosures/TC2129.pdf & https://derbyshire.gov.uk/leisure/countryside/access/rights_of_way/path_closure_register/search_the_register/details.asp?AppID=4807&men_1975=Swarkestone
12015-03-25 10:42:41 UTCSomeoneElse You've removed a tag that another mapper had added to http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25191831/history and replaced it with a note. Making changes such as this does not in any way improve the data in OpenStreetMap; it dilutes it.
22015-03-25 16:41:37 UTCrbuch703 Indeed, I did. The tag in question was the only instance of a "maker" tag worldwide, and it was ambiguous (which part of the aqueduct did William Hazledine make?). Having such exotic tags - especially if their meaning is ambiguous - does not in any way improve the data in OpenStreetMap; it...
32015-03-25 17:06:42 UTCSomeoneElse In http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/624 it was made clear that " changes such as this need to be discussed with the wider community and different people's views taken into account.". You didn't do this, and were blocked for that reason.

OSM isn't just your database and it isn't...
42015-03-25 18:55:00 UTCrbuch703 So are you saying that for every single change to every single tag that isn't an obvious typo, there has to be a discussion beforehand? In accordance with the first point of the OSM Editing Good Practices ("If you find elements with tags that you think are wrong then do correct them. OSM simila...
52015-03-27 15:04:49 UTCSK53 There are several simple rules of thumb which you ignored:

1. Am I improving the semantic value of OSM by changing a tag. Moving something to a note does not do so.
2. Has the tag been accepted by other mappers. In this case several mappers had made changes to the object without changing the mak...
12015-03-19 10:34:15 UTCwill_p Hi,

You have just deleted several tags from http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/224843465. Tags like 'not:nccod:amenity' are intended to help local mappers interpret open data sources provided by the city council. You appear to be making changes across the world, so I doubt you understood the meanin...
22015-03-19 17:14:12 UTCSK53 Can I second this, and add I have sent you a PM about other deletions.
32015-03-26 07:14:38 UTCuser_7622 Hi
I found some keys via "taginfo -> ähnlich", that appeared worldwide only 2 or 3 times and thought it was save to remove or change them because they seemed to be misspellings. Sorry if I was wrong.
42015-03-26 11:57:39 UTCSK53 This has already been reverted, we will check other changesets made around the same period and may revert those. Please do not remove tags with a small number of values unless a) they are obvious typos, or b) you have checked with the people who added the tag/local editors.
12015-03-19 12:24:59 UTCwill_p I'm guessing this was unintentional: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/333428689. It duplicates the Wickes on the other side of the road.

Will
22015-03-19 13:29:54 UTCSK53 Certainly was!
12015-03-13 22:45:49 UTCSK53 You might want to add something a bit more than just the name to this edit if you want it to show up. Simply adding building=yes would be a start. I note that there is John Deere supplier at this location, so shop=agricultural_machinery might also be something of use. HTH
22015-03-13 23:16:22 UTCChiefapasohak Ok. New to this, so thanks for the advice. I'll try again!
32015-03-14 00:01:24 UTCSK53 Also for the business you can add things like website=www.somebusiness.com (or whatever), telepone=0123456789 and opening_hours=Mo-Sa 09:00-18:00 (or whatever), all of which while not showing on the main OSM site get picked up by other OSM-based products. Also adding postcodes (usually as addr:postc...
12015-03-08 21:07:16 UTCSK53 Many thanks for such a comprehensive first edit. I'm impressed that you added tags for things like desire line paths. It's particularly nice to have additions in this area: there's still a lot to do in Nottingham itself so none of us do that many trips to map this far from the city.

I have one sm...
12015-02-03 21:56:15 UTCSomeoneElse Again, the source https://github.com/mapbox/map-feedback/issues/540 seems to be unreachable. Could you explain?
22015-02-03 22:22:18 UTCandygol We had recieved feedback through the service https://www.mapbox.com/map-feedback/ that had description "5a doods lane market street Alnwick" and link for editing http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=18/55.412789097907826/-1.7077034711837766.

You can't reach the source link because thi...
32015-02-03 22:36:07 UTCSomeoneElse Given that https://github.com/mapbox/map-feedback/issues/540 isn't accessible, perhaps it would be worth copying the full text of the feedback to the changeset comment (or if it's too long) to a changeset discussion? Or perhaps, if the feeback issue definitely refers to something that needs fixing ...
42015-02-20 08:58:18 UTCSK53 I have removed the address tag as it is clearly incorrect. To do so I used FHRS Open Data to add addresses to the mapped POIs along Clayport and Market Streets. The addresses are in the 30s at the junction with Clayport Street. Furthermore a simple web search shows Cafe Delicious at 39 (but this dat...
52015-02-20 18:15:30 UTCandygol @SK53 Thanks for your attention and help with this issue. I'll be add notes when I doubt about info from feedback.
62015-02-26 10:02:33 UTClxbarth > which is ensure that there is an independent piece of evidence to support the statement in the note

Yeah, let's not add data to OSM that can't be independently verified.
12015-02-11 02:27:59 UTCrickmastfan67 I don't know how you did this, but you broke an intersection along West Carson Street here in Pittsburgh with this changeset. Somehow, you removed a node from this way ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/54223992 ), which disconnected a connecting road, which somehow retained the node you removed f...
22015-02-16 18:05:38 UTCSK53 Interesting, possibly an editor bug in potlatch 2.0, or a keyboard glitch (which I've noted in past couple of days), or just possibly a case of editor not loading everything. I was almost entirely using the simplify option to reduce the node count on TIGER imported ways, which then makes it WAY easi...
32015-02-18 10:03:28 UTCrickmastfan67 Well, I do try to keep a tab on all changesets in the Pittsburgh area when I have the to look at them. Thank goodness for the RSS feed of the local changesets I have. :)
12015-02-01 17:31:37 UTCSK53 Wow, what a lot of nice extra data! Goes to show there is always something new to add.
22015-02-01 22:15:01 UTCphilsands Thanks mate. Been meaning to add it for a while
12015-01-29 23:44:17 UTCSK53 Please dont use landuse=industrial for oil fields! This is not what the tag is intended for. Only use this for discrete installations within the area (see the example I have mapped just outside Esperanza, Santa Cruz).

12015-01-29 21:43:45 UTCSK53 These woods along these river valleys do not exist. Yes there are patches of willows, and some willow scrub in places, but these are tiny. In populated places there will be rows of poplars to act as windbreaks. Otherwise this is Patagonia one of the famous treeless places in the world. Having recent...
12015-01-28 13:44:39 UTCSK53 I note with some dismay that you retagged a node labelled waterway=waste_disposal to amenity=waste_disposal. These actually have different meanings. waterway=waste_disposal is a particular facility only available to key-holders on canals, and is quite separate from things usually tagged as amenity=w...
22015-02-03 13:15:06 UTCHolgerJeromin waterway=waste_disposal is not documented in the wiki. access should be tagged with an access or an note tag. This seemed 3 years ago like a reinvention for openseamap.
The wiki notes for "amenity=waste_disposal" "Waste disposal places where canal boaters..."
32015-02-03 15:33:41 UTCSomeoneElse HolgerJeromin - never mind what the wiki says - have you ever actually seen one of these places? I can assure you that if http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/745023154/history looked anything like the photograph on the wiki page all the waste would flow out of the bottom of the bin and back into the ...
12015-01-27 20:53:15 UTCSK53 I know this was a very long time ago, but we were wondering why you added numbers as names to a number of nodes between Fritchley and Crich? Any chance you can remember what they signify?
12015-01-27 10:34:14 UTCSK53 Yes they should. When they connect to roads then they can be used for routing on foot (something I use OSM for all the time).

If it's a public right of way its also good to add designation=* and then we have it documented. I presume Staffords Acre is a relatively new road.
12015-01-21 11:04:21 UTCSomeoneElse What does "#map-feedback #851" mean? You've edited http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/87779787 . Does that mean that you've surveyed it (i.e. actually been there) or are you just guessing based on aerial imagery?

What makes you classify this as a "path" rather than a footway? ...
22015-01-21 11:20:19 UTCSK53 Yeah amazed that you thought to change this. This area was recently edited by at least 2 people with genuine local knowledge highway=path is not widely used locally in the UK because we find footway/track/bridleway/cycleway meet 95% of usecases better than path.

I get a 404 on the link given. Thi...
32015-01-21 20:00:20 UTCandygol Hi, SomeoneElse and SK53
concerning yours comments
1. About 404 link: because this is a private repo you are not allowed to look it and that is why you get 404 err.
2. I didn't visit this area but I rely on people with local knowledge. If my tagging is incorrect/inappropriate please fix it, I w...
42015-01-21 20:12:08 UTCpnorman Please use a meaningful changeset comment, not one like "#map-feedback #851" which doesn't allow someone to figure out what you were intending and why. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments has more information about writing good changeset comments.
52015-01-21 20:30:03 UTCSomeoneElse @andygol How was the feedback "Path mis-aligned, should all be further west" submitted? If it's an area that you're not able to survey in person wouldn't it make more sense to add an OSM note so that someone local (of which SK53 and I are just two of many) could survey it on the ground?
62015-01-21 20:31:37 UTCandygol Thank you pnorman for your comment! I agree that such description is informative and misleading. Further I will leave more meaningful descriptions.
72015-01-21 20:34:20 UTCandygol I meant "uninformative" instead of "informative"
82015-01-21 20:49:24 UTCSK53 I would also point out that even if the comment said "path is misaligned" your edits did more than this they changed the tagging in such a way that the quality of the data was degraded. In practice you turned entirely usable routeable data (highway=footway) into non-useful, only routeable ...
12015-01-20 02:12:42 UTCSomeoneElse Hi, I notice that you've joined http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/310881891/history to both Gladstone Street and Gladstone Terrace. Are you sure that it actually joins both of these now? It didn't do so the last time that I was there.

I know that some places in the world (including most of the U...
22015-01-21 11:43:48 UTCSK53 This edit also seriously misinterprets the aerial imagery. The very name "Terrace" in this part of Britain suggests a street not accessible by cars. The N half of what is labelled Gladstone Street looks very like this: there is an obvious change in surface on aerial photos, and on the S ha...
32015-01-26 22:06:28 UTCediyes SomeoneElse, SK53 -

You're right, in fact Gladstone Street does not at all seem to connect with Gladstone Terrace and I asked my colleague @Rub21 to revert the changeset which he has done earlier today: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/28417621

Thank you for the feedback and sorry for t...
42015-01-26 22:15:15 UTClxbarth Thanks for all the feedback.

> It's a real shame that MapBox are keeping 'issues' private when making them available to local mappers is likely to result in a better map for all.

SK53 - this edit goes actually back to to-fix http://osmlab.github.io/to-fix/?error=unconnected_minor1 and not t...
52015-02-26 10:01:02 UTClxbarth By the way, we are placing all customer feedback as notes on OSM now. We do not pass on any feedback directly as the noise to signal ratio is too high and I am also not 100 % comfortable to post something publicly that people may submit assuming a private channel.

I hope it's useful feedback, we'...
62015-02-27 00:12:37 UTCSomeoneElse @lxbarth thanks - that'd be really useful (and also great that you filter out the non-OSM-specific stuff, like people who's GPSs obviously aren't working or are actually just complaining about an app that your maps are embedded in.
72015-04-09 13:07:52 UTCSomeoneElse Just for info - for the continuation of the "Gladstone Terrace" story see the discussion on http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30036375 .
12015-01-20 14:06:36 UTCSK53 Hi, have just been looking at all retail establishments in Australia from OSM and noticed "iloveistanbul". This looks like the sort of place I'd map as amenity=fast_food, cuisine=kebab, even if it has some seating. If its a proper restaurant doing kebabs, then amenity=restaurant, takeaway=...
22016-11-22 10:34:17 UTCWarin61 Hartley Public School (node 3287366361) is not on the LPI Base Map nor is it listed on the NSW Dept of Education website. On the LPI Base Map in that location is a park, Bush Fire brigade and a residence. Made into a note, while adding the other features.
32016-11-22 10:46:55 UTCmycae-gmx OK, my error. It looks like this is actually a historic building, which has been turned into a private rental property.

https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/13035070
42016-11-22 20:18:31 UTCWarin61 OK, I'll go ahead and delete it then.
12015-01-19 21:53:45 UTCrobert Please don't abuse the name tag to add the fact that roads happen to also be part of some-walk-or-other. If you really want to do this you should use route relations (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route), though you may have to upgrade to using JOSM to do that properly.

In fact the ...
22015-01-19 22:18:46 UTCRichard Despite the old grump above (we love him really), great to have you on board. :)
32015-01-20 10:04:53 UTCEdLoach You might also like to look at other maps that use OpenStreetMap data where the routes are more obvious, such as http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=13&lat=53.2359&lon=-1.45586&hill=0 or http://www.opencyclemap.org/?zoom=14&lat=53.20775&lon=-1.5015&layers=000B0
42015-01-20 10:32:09 UTCcnedramblers Thanks for all the comments. I must admit that as a walker I was totally unaware of the waymarked trails site. But so are many others. I accept that applying mutiple tags to highways or footpaths is a problem, but footpaths and trails were in many cases there centuries before tarmac roads and it is ...
52015-01-20 10:44:06 UTCEdLoach I hope my comment didn't mislead you, as I was out in the rain 9 days ago collecting GPS traces and photos of local (to me) public footpaths that still needed adding to OpenStreetMap. I was just trying to help point out that the default view of the data when you come to this website isn't the best v...
62015-01-20 10:59:19 UTCSK53 I must emphasise we take rights of way very seriously and would really welcome your contributions.

You can read about some of the work involving OSM and footpath mapping on my blog http://sk53-osm.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/footpaths or watch Dudley Ibbett talking mapping paths in the Peak Dist...
72015-01-20 11:07:11 UTCRichard Please don't remove them! OSM takes rights of way very seriously, more than any other mapping organisation other than the Ordnance Survey.

At the same time we're a global project, so we can't show every single peculiarity of every single country in this map view. The main view on openstreetmap.or...
82015-01-20 19:30:38 UTCrobert Hey, there's nothing in the Terms of Service about not being a grumpy bastard.
92015-01-20 19:50:04 UTCcnedramblers I can try and get colleagues to annotate NE Derbyshire footpaths that are Public Rights of Way with the County Council's terminology (e.g. NE 2 46/1) - as rowmaps does - but only if it adds value ?
102015-01-21 00:55:13 UTCSomeoneElse Yes - public rights of way numbers are usually added using the prow_ref key (see http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Key:prow_ref), and would certainly be useful to have - although of course the source has to be licence-compatible (not derived from OS non-open mapping). See http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/UK_local_c...
112015-01-21 01:09:01 UTCSomeoneElse One more question about the route - back in 2008 when I walked it there used to be a Chesterfield Round Walk route marker around here http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/68834#map=18/53.18623/-1.45678 where the highlighted relation leaves Bolehill Lane. You've added the name to this footpath http...
12015-01-14 15:35:20 UTCSK53 I have looked at this website & it really does not provide the information which you say, to quote " children of toddler age, babies, and mums-to-be, along with their carers, whether they be parents, grandparents, or other carers", so whilst the values you have added are logical, they ...
22015-01-14 22:41:10 UTCPolarbear While I was converting the abandoned proposal of age_group with a handful of tags into the min/max scheme, this was the only value that did not have clear numeric values. Thus I concluded min=0 for babies and mums to be, and max=5 for leaving toddler age.
12015-01-12 14:51:17 UTCSK53 I wondered why you altered the indian sweet shop on Ilkeston Road to a restaurant. It was not a restaurant when I surveyed this, and your edit does not look like one based on a re-survey. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/217789111
12015-01-11 12:40:39 UTCSK53 Thanks for updating this. Is the shop still branded with Londis? In this case brand=Londis can be added as an additional tag.
22015-01-11 12:43:59 UTCHenry Lau Nope, the shop has no Londis branding on it.
32015-01-11 12:48:27 UTCSK53 Excellent, no substitute for local knowledge.

I know that there's been a lot of changes with branding of convenience stores. Historically people didnt discriminate between the actual name of the shop & the branding, but we're trying to make all the shop data better.
12014-12-11 08:16:23 UTCEdLoach Hi, The name of the Essex Way should be on the relation and not the individual ways. Would you like me to revert this changeset for you?
22014-12-11 09:31:18 UTCEdLoach I meant to add, if you want to see a map which shows the Essex Way you could look at this Outdoor Map style at the OpenCycleMap website. http://www.opencyclemap.org/?zoom=12&lat=51.90187&lon=0.97143&layers=000B0
32014-12-13 14:45:24 UTCSK53 Or use Lonvia's Waymarked trails site http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=10&lat=51.87465&lon=0.81488&hill=0
12014-11-09 00:34:17 UTCSK53 A bar called Londra is found at this address, not at anything visibly called El Chaperio
12014-11-02 12:29:34 UTCSK53 I've lightly edited your opening hours tag in this edit by changing it to opening_hours:description and adding a more machine readable version so that this can be picked up by things like OpenLinkMap (http://www.openlinkmap.org/?zoom=16&lat=52.12768&lon=-0.21308&layers=BFTTTTT)
22014-11-03 12:43:45 UTCSK53 My apologies I made a typo in transcribing the opening hours, now fixed in http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26524807
12014-11-02 20:45:52 UTCSK53 Welcome to OpenStreetMap. You may like to add some more tags to Clansman Harbour to make it easier to pick out as a harbour (e.g., in searches, or on specialist maps like OpenSeaMap, here showing Inverness http://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=15&lat=57.4942&lon=-4.2338&layers=BFTTFFTFFTF0FFFF...
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