Latest OSM notes of Hong Kong with complete log (Limit 500)
Id#Tmstmp UTCActionContributorComment
2464998 (iD)12020-12-17 15:14openedDixon313Caution on degrading trail type: Joining an easy shaded mid-level concrete path (1Km, coming from Tsing Shan Monastery for CLP pylon maintenance) is a bare mud trail (400m, southbound downhill to Sun Tuen Mun Center). Unprepared leisure hikers may have to turn back here.
22026-06-03 12:55commentedkingkingHKBy survey, indeed.
32026-07-11 17:33commentedvectorial8192Then, perhaps we just need to clarify the trail feasibility, and then we can finish.
5304217 (iD)12026-05-22 09:55opened198
22026-07-11 17:12commentedvectorial8192Possibly incomplete work of https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1491526318 ?
32026-07-11 17:12commentedvectorial8192Correction : possibly incomplete work of https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180258566 ?
5379154 (iD)12026-07-06 21:36openedAngus Lee"Closed on June 30, 2026 (Tue)." The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-06-24T00:53:17Z POI name: 偉晴軒 West Hotel POI types: building tourism-hotel #organicmaps ios 2026.06.24-17...
22026-07-09 07:14commentedvectorial8192we do have e.g. https://www.hk01.com/%E7%A4%BE%E6%9C%83%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E/60367207/%E4%BD%90%E6%95%A628%E5%B9%B4%E6%AD%B7%E5%8F%B2%E9%85%92%E5%BA%97-%E5%81%89%E6%99%B4%E8%BB%92-6-30%E7%B5%90%E6%A5%AD-%E9%96%80%E5%8F%A3%E8%B2%BC%E5%91%8A%E7%A4%BA%E6%84%9F%E8%AC%9D%E9%A1%A7%E5%AE%A2%E6%94%AF%E6%8C%81
32026-07-11 17:09closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185542711 ; closing.
5189634 (iD)12026-03-04 06:34openedHigh
22026-07-11 17:04closedvectorial8192(Tooling somehow assigns this to HK; this often happens due to low border resolution, and that's excusable.) Meaning of note is unclear; closing.
5370649 (iD)12026-07-02 04:27openedAngus LeeThe place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-06-24T00:53:17Z POI has no name POI types: shop-bakery #organicmaps ios 2026.06.24-17-ios
22026-07-09 07:15commentedvectorial8192Refers to node https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4777909123 , which has no name.
32026-07-11 16:55commentedvectorial8192Upon review, the data is inconsistent. The building is at number 68, but the bakery self-claims to be at number 80. That's not how addressing works. Instant delete.
42026-07-11 16:56closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185542117 ; closing.
5343890 (iD)12026-06-14 01:58openedcrossrowlatebrain"Closed permanently" The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-05-27T00:05:23Z POI name: Spring Deer POI types: cuisine-chinese amenity-restaurant #organicmaps android 2026.05.27-11-FDro...
22026-07-11 16:41commentedvectorial8192General online vibes do agree the restaurant is closed/gone. Also, a valid replacement feature is mapped as cafe "Reaction Coffee Roasters" (though self-duplicated). I will just clean these up and finish.
32026-07-11 16:52closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185541909 ; closing.
5078374 (iD)12025-12-04 10:12openedkingkingHKhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/node/11620433869 What is this? Does this actually exist?
22026-05-20 17:34commentedvectorial8192Thinking about this in further detail, I can recall that the somewhat well-known "banner place" originating from the 2019 protests is located somewhere around here. We may try to do some long-distance trigonometry to see if this is a reasonable hypothesis.
32026-05-25 14:02commentedkingkingHKThe quoted node was created in 2024 when everything from 2019 should have vanished. But you can try.
42026-05-25 15:49commentedvectorial8192You never know. To some foreigners, the protests never stopped. We can do trigo.
52026-06-23 14:21commentedkingkingHKBy survey, can't find any artwork here. But I won't stop you from doing whatever trigo you wants, so I won't touch the node or resolve this notefor now.
62026-07-11 16:29commentedvectorial8192By looking at the 2019 past photos (this gotta be copyright-waivable for being well-known and recurring facts / historic events), the banner trigo actually points towards the lion head at https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3965148556 , which is clearly not here. Also, the viewing direction is from the east side. Then yes we can delete this.
72026-07-11 16:30closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185540786 ; closing.
5384946 (iD)12026-07-09 16:05openedkingkingHKtodo: long term cycleway closure expected due to drainage works
22026-07-11 16:24commentedvectorial8192Government website has this https://www.dsd.gov.hk/TC/Our_Projects/All_Projects/4200CD.html though it doesn't mention the exact closure dates.
5078375 (iD)12025-12-04 10:12openedkingkingHKhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/node/11620433769 What is this? Does this actually exist?
22026-06-23 14:20commentedkingkingHKBy survey, nothing here.
32026-07-11 16:20closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185540282 ; closing.
5383053 (iD)12026-07-08 17:15openedvectorial8192todo: new highway bridge to be opened soon (what is the scope of Route 5?)
22026-07-11 16:18commentedvectorial8192Aside from the (new) scope of Route 5, what would be the (new) scope of the expressway area?
5257118 (iD)12026-04-19 16:41openedvectorial8192todo/issue: Wo Yi Hop Road: physical separation
22026-04-25 09:13commentedvectorial8192One issue is that the admin bounds is defined to be along the road, which means iD can't deal with this, and JOSM must be used.
32026-04-25 09:20commentedkingkingHKI would out point out that it is highly discouraged to glue boundaries to other features.
42026-04-25 09:34commentedvectorial8192Then, in this case, after we detach the features, should we somehow move the boundaries to the east side or the west side? My near-future action is to split the ways somehow but keep the boundaries attached, for lack of good/obvious solution.
52026-04-25 10:02commentedkingkingHKImo keep it at the centreline. OSM's ways are an abstraction anyway. For the single carriageway section, I would put the boundary very close to but not attached to the highway. (If I am wrong @Kovoschiz can correct me)
62026-04-25 10:35commentedKovoschizIf the border is really defined by the road throughout time, attaching along the latter is passable. But HK isn't. If the road has been widened (it has in some sections), it won't follow.
72026-04-25 10:37commentedKovoschiz(for the non-widened section, it's still toleratable)
82026-04-25 15:55commentedvectorial8192We notice that we naturally arrive at the same question again: how/where do we check for 18-District boundaries? When we know how those are defined, we will know whether we need to disconnect the ways.
92026-07-11 16:16commentedvectorial8192Ignoring the boundary definition, one practical blocker was/is that iD cannot easily disambiguate/select features when they perfectly overlap each other. However, later I found that iD has option to hide admin-bounds. Then, roads become selectable. JOSM situation notwithstanding, this means we now have a friendlier entrance to at least tackle the...
5270671 (iD)12026-04-29 08:42openedkingkingHKtodo/issue: verify physical separation
22026-07-11 16:13commentedvectorial8192Aerial imagery clearly shows "no physical separation". It's the "chain of laziness". Road expansion works, draw new WIP road (correct). WIP complete, change tags (correct). But then it turns out there are some sections with no physical separation. We can either focus only on this spot, or we do a sectional scan from Sam Shing to Aegean Coast.
5360205 (iD)12026-06-25 05:51openedkingkingHKtodo: online info says this bridge has been restored https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/209631718
22026-07-11 06:38commentedkingkingHKfuture reference: https://www.facebook.com/share/v/14fnVEzksaz/
32026-07-11 16:08commentedvectorial8192It seems they took the bridge away and placed a new one back at the same spot? Either we need a survey, or we find a usable source and armchair this.
5360200 (iD)12026-06-25 05:36openedkingkingHKtodo: LRT stop will be renamed on 5 July, according to online info
22026-07-11 16:04closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185117821 ; closing.
4434946 (iD)12024-09-14 19:21openedvectorial8192Prepare to reactivate the old platforms (irl construction nearing completion)
22025-05-06 16:28commentedvectorial8192Worst case this will wait for YOHO WEST Phase 2 to complete, which is expected to be in 2026.
32026-02-15 13:27commentedkingkingHKOnline info says YOHO WEST Phase 2 will be complete by March 2026, but by survey the old platforms are still not open yet.
42026-04-24 16:03commentedkingkingHKOnline info says platform 1, 3, and 4 has reopened today whereas platform 2 and 5 will reopen in July.
52026-04-25 08:42commentedvectorial8192While we are here, given that the rails were destroyed and then remade, I think we should have e.g. `start_date=2026` and `was:start_date=19XX`?
62026-04-25 08:48commentedkingkingHKSure, something like `railway=light_rail` + `start_date=2026-04-24` + `demolished:railway light_rail` + `demolished:start_date=1995-03-26` + `demolished:end_date=2017` + `was:railway=construction` + `was:construction=light_rail` + `was:construction:railway=light_rail` + `was:start_date=2017` + `was:end_date=2026-04-24`?
72026-04-25 16:03commentedvectorial8192(imo too verbose, but OK) Main issue is that we can't possibly have railway=X and then at the same time demolished:railway=X when X is same both sides. (troll-tagging?) imo at some point we simply do not need to keep "was:*=*"; the "was" prefix is to prevent unintended remapping when e.g. aerial imagery doesn't match irl. Here with the lack of ae...
82026-04-25 16:08commentedkingkingHKYeah, I also find it too verbose, I only wrote that because you mentioned it. Imo all the `demolished:*=` `was:*=` can go to OHM. And then, Theseus's Ship, if the platforms and rails were completely demolished and rebuilt, it might not be totally appropriate to keep using the same element. I haven't checked if the geometry changed meanwhile.
92026-04-25 16:21commentedvectorial8192The station is "Theseus' Ship"; "Theseus' Ship" is more about the entire thing rather than the individual parts. At first glance it's not possible to have a different geometry/size, but we can always irl check this.
102026-04-26 05:41commentedkingkingHKOk maybe I fumbled my words, but yeah that's basically what I was trying to say. If the geometry has really changed, it would be a very strong case to delete and redraw.
112026-04-27 13:38commentedKovoschizIf it's only slightly changed and not moved significantly, no need to redraw. Simply adjust it.
122026-04-27 16:55commentedvectorial8192Given how the west side has space for a multi-level driveway https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1351494329 I strongly armchair-believe the rails cannot be located at any other place. It's several days now, so the least we could do is to enable the new rails, and then give it to later irl survey to confirm the rails really have the correct dimension...
132026-05-01 10:18commentedkingkingHKBy survey, seems like the station dimension is kinda wrong, which tbh is expected. I will probably summarise my findings in Discord first (Soon™).
142026-07-11 15:52commentedvectorial8192Seeing no updates to this note, perhaps I may ask some extra questions. Given that the observed dimensions are different from the OSM mapped dimensions, how different are both measurements? Is it because e.g. the platforms are shifted along some direction, which is not in OSM?
5220076 (iD)12026-03-26 05:17openedvectorial8192issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1104518518 ancient todo
22026-03-27 07:37commentedkingkingHKNew towns don't have well-defined boundaries either. Not sure what can be done here.
32026-03-27 08:57commentedKovoschizYes they have, according to OZP, Census, PDD/PPU, etc. However, this needs to be distinguished from addresses.
42026-04-26 15:35commentedvectorial8192I can see this polygon largely coincides with the Town Planning "Tin Shui Wai" definition, but there are copyright concerns on whether we may directly make use of the graphical definition.
52026-05-20 12:20commentedkingkingHK@Kovoschiz May you provide more info so that we know what action should be done in order to close this note?
62026-05-20 18:10commentedKovoschizBut what do you want to know?
72026-05-23 08:13commentedkingkingHKE.g. which definition should be used? How to find the boundary according to that definition? Is Is the copyright compatible? How to tag it?
82026-07-11 15:40commentedvectorial8192@Kovoschiz I think the hardest question is whether annex diagrams in legal texts can be used for OSM mapping. Do those count as regular diagrams (not for OSM) or extensions of legal documents (OK for OSM)? When we know the legality, things like checking the correct OSM tag should then be trivial.
5208863 (iD)12026-03-17 20:54openedMateusz Konieczny唐人茶居 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1566866228/history is it really amenity=restaurant and shop=kiosk at the same time?
22026-03-18 03:51commentedkingkingHKI mean, this is not completely unbelievable...
32026-03-18 19:48commentedMateusz Koniecznyoh definitely - turns out that sometimes really unexpected matches are real but it looks really suspect if such things are known to exist here, please close the note
42026-03-21 14:03commentedvectorial8192Deja vu I may have replied to a note that looks like this before. Basically, in rural places like here, there could be places that double as both a restaurant and a kiosk. The "outside" is the kiosk, and then the "inside" is a restaurant. I would guess the guy decided it was more convenient to describe both of them as a single feature.
52026-03-21 14:52commentedkingkingHKYou are probably thinking of https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4745192 ? Anyway, the current mapping seems correct. However, as there are some open notes nearby that cannot be resolved without a survey, it may be fine to leave this open and wait for someone to survey this alongside.
62026-04-12 11:47commentedkingkingHKBy survey, it seems like there is a store inside the restaurant. I'm not sure how to map this. (Also, I am not sure if `shop=kiosk` is correctly for mapping 士多, feels like `shop=convenience` more?
72026-04-13 09:23commentedKovoschizIt's `=general`
82026-04-26 13:20commentedvectorial8192From what I can remember/imagine, "士多" can sell anything from food (e.g. wheat), newspaper, to magazines and other misc stuff. It does seem to be a general shop. If no big disagreements, then we can proceed with that.
92026-05-04 08:57commentedMateusz KoniecznyAnd for shop in shop - I would map both as separate objects. Maybe outer one as an area?
102026-05-04 16:56commentedvectorial8192That sounds like a swamp. We (or at least just myself) do not know how large the "outside shop" is, esp the back part. I rather keep them both as a single node.
112026-05-04 17:09commentedMateusz Koniecznywell, note can remain open until someone can survey this location
122026-05-04 20:32commentedvectorial8192pinging with no notification @kingkingHK
132026-05-05 10:07commentedkingkingHKI went there a while ago, and the situation is that, the entrance to the 士多 is inside the restaurant. Or, from another perspective, part of the restaurant has been repurposed to be a 士多. And I think mapping both as nodes just fails to represent this.
142026-07-11 14:09commentedvectorial8192This is indeed a swamp. Either we keep it to the single node (current situation), or we do full indoor mapping to properly describe which part of the building is the restaurant-proper and which part is the storefront. The latter option seems like poor use of resources. I will just summarize this thread and add a "note=*" to the restaurant node, to...
152026-07-11 14:18closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185534412 ; closing.
4895339 (iD)12025-08-06 14:06openedkingkingHKMost of the village is unmapped
22026-07-11 14:01closedvectorial8192This note was created a long time ago. Eventually, one would start to understand/accept that, in OSM, incomplete data is a daily occurrence. For example, the village next door Tai Kiu Tsuen is also currently only mapped as a single (rural) residential area. And we are fine with it. The point of "general stream" is that, if someone can and want to...
2776728 (iD)12021-07-29 16:43openedWhcohiSmall temple
22026-03-04 09:23commentedkingkingHKHighly doubt this; can't see anything on aerial imagery or government maps.
32026-07-11 12:59closedvectorial8192OP has largely gone offline. Trusting existing OSM data, it still does not make sense to have a temple right at a stream intersection far from existing (possibly informal) paths. A reasonable interpretation is that OP tried to describe informal small "offering tablets" sometimes found in HK wilderness. In principle OSM welcomes factual map data,...
3145328 (iD)12022-04-21 01:24openedckyuthere is a gate which is locked by villaget
22025-09-11 14:30commentedkingkingHKAt least when I attempted to visit the location of this note today, there was a guard dog stopping people from getting close. Might be difficult to verify this note if the situation persists.
32026-04-26 17:38commentedvectorial8192@kingkingHK do you vaguely remember where you encountered dogs? This may hint towards an area where everything within is `access=private`.
42026-04-27 16:08commentedkingkingHKOk, I actually didn't see the dogs, only heard loud aggressive barking at https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3741053486 , and I was too scared to go inside further (have previously been chased by dogs in indigenous villages while surveying before). I have recently tried to visit again via the other side (entering from Nam Sang Wai Road instead of ...
52026-04-28 16:32commentedvectorial8192They don't call it the Autonomous Region of Yuen Long for lulz and giggles. Re your 2nd paragraph, when you see a gate on the eastern side that's not on OSM, that alone is enough to motivate a changeset. The fact that the (new) changeset is not directly related to this note is not a problem, that's still a good contribution.
62026-05-17 16:26commentedvectorial8192However, upon closer look, aerial imagery doesn't show any gate-like structure on the NE side as described. It seems not enough info to affirm or deny this note.
72026-05-23 08:37commentedkingkingHKI mean, a gate practically has negligible depth. I don't know why you expect to see in aerial imagery. But still, my finding of a gate seems to be unrelated to this note.
82026-05-25 11:52commentedvectorial8192Depending on the gate material/construction, I would expect a shadow line on the aerial imagery, but I could not find this.
92026-07-11 12:04commentedvectorial8192Ultimately, in OSM we trust. Seeing this is in Yuen Long, this note is believable. There are definitely rural areas that belong to villagers. Contextually this area is built for (private) aquaculture though it seems recent years the villagers want houses more than ponds.
102026-07-11 12:40closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185530110 ; closing.
5346823 (iD)12026-06-16 05:30openedkingkingHKtodo: bus terminus will be opened on 21 June, according to online info
22026-06-22 08:42commentedvectorial8192concern: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184412298
32026-06-22 08:43commentedvectorial8192I was about to ask the changeset for more details, but it declaring YouTube as a source could be a problem.
42026-06-22 08:49commentedkingkingHKOk, as as start, the quoted changeset needs to be reverted for ToS and/or copyright violation.
52026-06-22 08:56commentedkingkingHKSee https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184417534
62026-06-24 05:06commentedkingkingHKSomeone did something: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184487035
72026-06-25 18:53commentedvectorial8192At least the scope is limited. Like, we can just look at the relevant TD announcements and then we know the bus terminus is open. We don't need YouTube videos for that. That said, we can use this opportunity to confirm the shape of the terminus, and also the situation surrounding the station (e.g. marketplace? old terminus? etc).
82026-06-28 12:52commentedvectorial8192By survey, I'm gonna do it.
92026-06-28 13:19commentedkingkingHKBtw see also https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184730262
102026-06-28 13:23commentedvectorial8192:( Ideally, we should confirm the roads before we add in the bus relations, but this time we were not fast enough. irl is different from OSM.
112026-06-28 14:02commentedkingkingHKYou can still correct the roads to match real life first. I can redo the bus relations Later™
122026-06-28 16:47commentedvectorial8192concern x2: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184730262 The node https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13971781917 etc irl positions are wrong, not at OSM declared positions. Hmmm... same guy btw
132026-06-28 17:35commentedvectorial8192This is unusual. Perhaps more information is needed.
142026-07-11 11:09commentedvectorial8192Upon further review, the situation is acceptable, though thanks to efforts by https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/samho1234567 it seems there is no need for any extra rerouting. If no extra thing to clarify, then will close soon.
5034335 (iD)12025-11-02 15:14openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22026-01-22 14:45commentedkingkingHKIndeed there is a Family Medicine Clinic here.
32026-07-11 08:51commentedvectorial8192Seeing the lack of updates, I'm gonna make an educated guess, that this clinic is a single-purpose facility just like the TSW-N clinic.
42026-07-11 08:54closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185521230 ; closing.
3980686 (iD)12023-11-10 03:46opened粉嶺沙頭角公路DD39, Lot 2645
22026-01-08 11:10commentedkingkingHKIs this information useful for OSM?
32026-01-09 12:16commentedvectorial8192I mean, we can't really just say "this is useless" (this note hints towards a brownfield and therefore can be added to OSM), but obviously it seems we don't know how to "properly" use this information.
42026-01-09 13:04commentedkingkingHKThis doesn't feel any more useful than the spam/private notes typing in an address. Imo the most we can do is mapping/improving features in this area.
52026-01-24 16:06commentedvectorial8192Back then I would instant-close notes that only contain addresses. However imo a plot name/ID is stronger than an address, so these cannot be instant-closed.
62026-01-25 04:16commentedkingkingHKImo a plot name is just a fancier/more formal address.
72026-02-15 13:25commentedkingkingHK@vectorial8192 If you don't think this can be instant-closed, what actions do you propose to take here?
82026-03-04 09:55commentedkingkingHK@vectorial8192 I might visit this location in a few days; let me know if you think I should look out for anything in order to resolve this note.
92026-03-04 12:53commentedvectorial8192Well, at minimum we should try to see if this is somehow signposted (probably not). We can then see which irl area(s) correspond to this plot of land; at minimum we can clarify the industrial areas into several distinct plots, likely partitioned along the roads. Ultimately it's sometimes not possible to very clearly and precisely state beforehand ...
102026-05-20 12:19commentedkingkingHKThen, seeing I have no such feeling and still don't really know what to do with this note (imo clarification/partitioning of the land belongs in "general stream"), I will just leave this note to you, or someone who knows how to deal with this (might be future me).
112026-07-09 17:01closedvectorial8192I have decided to at least validate what we are looking at. The Land Registry has a free (money) online address lookup system https://www.landreg.gov.hk/tc/services/services_b_9.htm . According to this system, there is no such "Sha Tau Kok Road DD39L 2645" plot. This note is fake news. Factual references (especially for debunking purposes) should...
122026-07-10 04:50reopenedkingkingHK
132026-07-10 04:50commentedkingkingHKBut we can find it on geoinfo map though.
142026-07-10 19:29commentedvectorial8192To clarify, the registry has "Sha Tau Kok Road DD39L" but doesn't list specific "2645" plot. But, looking at the registry list, the whole neighbourhood has building name set to null. Technically because NT is leased, the lack of records is insufficient to prove the lack of land mastery (by government or by private entities), but administratively t...
5386225 (iD)12026-07-10 10:42openedvectorial8192issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/802069339 descriptive name (?????)
22026-07-10 11:32commentedkingkingHKIt's just a dead end footpath source: survey
32026-07-10 19:13commentedvectorial8192Mapillary imagery exist for this area, but some do not reflect reality (nudge). Dead end footpaths are still valid footpaths when easily observable from aerial imagery. Isolated inaccessible paths may be given access=no to better guide navigation software. I will just clean this up. Is simple.
42026-07-10 19:17closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185490481 ; closing.
5374781 (iD)12026-07-04 16:29openedRosy-xzy舂坎角炮台
22026-07-10 19:07closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185489793 ; closing.
5374774 (iD)12026-07-04 16:25openedRosy-xzy赤柱炮台
22026-07-10 19:01closedvectorial8192There are no batteries here. Closing.
5381910 (iD)12026-07-08 05:24openedlecolibri258"2 floor of the building" OSM snapshot date: 2026-05-27T00:05:23Z POI name: EC Color POI types: shop-copyshop #organicmaps android 2026.06.29-3-Google
22026-07-10 18:58commentedvectorial8192Hi there, you may use semicolon ";" to indicate multiple floors of the same building. For example, "1;2" indicates "1/F and 2/F". Do you remember/know which floors for this shop?
2434008 (iD)12020-11-20 16:19openedDogistic Limited 一寵愛有限公司
22025-05-12 09:54closed楊展博
32025-05-13 10:13reopenedvectorial8192
42025-05-13 10:14commentedvectorial8192Not done yet; please don't resolve!
52025-09-01 07:45commentedkingkingHKAccording to the Company Registry, a company with the same name has been dissolved in October 2020.
62026-01-24 15:21commentedvectorial8192Then, it seems we may close this?
72026-01-25 03:57commentedkingkingHKDepends on your attitude towards closing notes without surveying. Although I know you might be leaning towards armchair-closing notes from previous discussions elsewhere, there are notes nearby that cannot be armchair-mapped e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5128521 , so if someone decides to visit there they can visit this place too to check...
82026-01-25 08:17commentedvectorial8192The armchair thought is, if the company is closed, then it can't possibly have any in-use features irl. What remains would be e.g. abandoned:building=yes Then, if we don't already have their info on OSM, then we might as well don't do it, and e.g. close the relevant notes. I rather add in-use features in urban areas than to add possibly abandoned ...
92026-02-22 15:15commentedkingkingHKI mean, there's a chance the company that closed has nothing to do with the POI at this location and just coincidentally shares a name. Although this might be too unlikely.
102026-06-15 11:59closedTimmy Wong HK
112026-06-15 12:17reopenedkingkingHK
122026-06-15 12:18commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
132026-07-09 18:57closedvectorial8192Upon further review, we have this https://www.facebook.com/dogistic/ This is evidence of "company activity" but doesn't say much about the company location. Then, a good interpretation of the situation is that the organization "dissolved" and is no longer a registered company, but is still around for dynamic on-call services. Thus, it no longer ...
5128521 (iD)12026-01-14 03:50openedkingkingHKTodo: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/813803780 name
22026-07-05 11:49commentedHenryEKtypo needs fixing and requires chinese name only? or is there more to do here
32026-07-09 18:14commentedvectorial8192Name referenced in https://www.lcsd.gov.hk/clpss/en/webApp/ContactAccessDetails.do?lsb=ND&type=lsb&value=ND , which I believe is copyright-usable. At least I see we need to repair the name and also provide the Chinese name. Minimal HK mapping requirements regarding names.
42026-07-09 18:16closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185418889 ; closing.
5150364 (iD)12026-02-01 10:53openedkingkingHKhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1213995468 construction finished?
22026-07-09 17:41commentedvectorial8192No idea what's going on, but aerial imagery very consistently show a car park at this location. This is very likely a car park in an "unused land", just the usual mismapping.
32026-07-09 17:48closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185417079 ; closing.
5188738 (iD)12026-03-03 11:21openedkingkingHKhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6330287444 I doubt this exists anymore.
22026-03-05 13:22commentedkingkingHKThe entire university is still `access=private`; I think it is more likely removed than not so can delete first.
32026-04-02 10:42commentedvectorial8192theoretical possibility of loc_name
42026-07-09 17:37closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185416384 ; closing.
5188736 (iD)12026-03-03 11:21openedkingkingHKtodo: descriptive name https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6309742344
22026-07-09 17:28commentedvectorial8192The feature type is also wrong.
32026-07-09 17:29closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185415845 ; closing.
5188594 (iD)12026-03-03 07:40openedThere is a new building on construction and will be finished by next season
22026-03-03 07:42closedLarry_marcon
32026-03-03 07:42reopenedLarry_marcon
42026-03-05 13:22commentedkingkingHKApparently, the entire university is still `access=private`. I guess we would have to wait until aerial imagery updates this.
52026-07-09 17:10commentedvectorial8192Cross-checking with EdUHK website, we do have this https://www.eduhk.hk/eo/our-projects/new-academic-building-tai-po-campus Anon is probably really bad at geography/mapping because we definitely can see a WIP building at the ESE of this note. We will just leave the "building is completed" event to the relevant access=private mappers, per "general...
62026-07-09 17:19closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185415153 ; closing.
5037695 (iD)12025-11-04 13:28openedkingkingHKHas this construction https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/767852603 been finished? It was last modified almost six years ago, and aerial imagery does not seem to show any signs of construction.
22026-01-08 11:10commentedkingkingHKSeems like it has.
32026-07-09 16:31commentedvectorial8192These houses are marked as "completed" in OSM many years ago. However, somehow the area was not changed to be a rural residential area.
42026-07-09 16:49closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185413050 ; closing.
5034341 (iD)12025-11-02 15:15openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic (it seems OSM doesn't have this?)
22026-01-08 07:38commentedkingkingHKIndeed there is a Family Medicine Clinic here.
32026-01-24 16:20commentedvectorial8192Any updates to this note? (semi regular regional note review, to try to close low-hanging notes and declutter the map)
42026-01-25 04:24commentedkingkingHKI will make a changeset soon. You might have noticed I am making less changesets recently, mainly due to exhaustion from real life. There are around 30 notes which I have surveyed and can make a changeset to resolve it anytime I wanted to, but haven't.
52026-01-25 08:06commentedvectorial8192I mean, I have also slowed down. I now convince myself to don't look at new notes until the previous batch is cleared. Or just create short-lived notes.
62026-07-09 16:06commentedvectorial8192Seeing the lack of updates, I'm gonna make an educated guess and armchair-place the clinic at the unnamed building on the north side.
72026-07-09 16:24closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185411542 ; closing.
5214756 (iD)12026-03-22 08:23openedvectorial8192concern: I don't think these are cycling crossings. Or, there is a mapping mistake.
22026-03-22 08:57commentedkingkingHKI vaguely remember this is one of the very few "semi-bicycle crossings" in Hong Kong where the cycleway ends right at the road, not a few meters before it as is usual. So simply turning the cycleways to footways like https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1418886075 would be fine.
32026-07-09 14:16commentedvectorial8192Given that Hong Kong does not define "cycle crossings", I will just refactor these to be regular crossings.
42026-07-09 15:59closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185410079 ; closing.
5175576 (iD)12026-02-21 13:19openedkingkingHKtodo: new u-turn lane?
22026-02-23 10:48commentedkingkingHKIndeed.
32026-03-05 05:56commentedvectorial8192Feature already exists as https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1481293106 ...??? What's the plan here?
42026-03-05 06:18commentedkingkingHK...ok somehow I didn't notice it was added a few hours before I made this note. But its alignment seems wrong; I will make a changeset soon.
52026-07-07 13:50commentedvectorial8192By survey, we do have this u-turn, but the u-turn is very short, I do not think there is much alignment to speak of. Propose closing.
62026-07-09 14:06closedvectorial8192This is a minor issue, and the current data is passable. Someone will naturally review this when doing Pak Shek Kok station in the future. This is in vision range. Therefore, closing.
5130601 (iD)12026-01-15 15:21openedkingkingHKTodo: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1419082513 descriptive name, etc
22026-01-17 09:15commentedvectorial8192It mentions McDonald's. This https://mcdonalds.com.hk/en/find-a-restaurant/ says they have a McDonald's here but it isn't open 24/7. It then becomes "how should we map non-24/7 foot paths".
32026-07-08 10:46closedxingshu
42026-07-09 07:16reopenedvectorial8192
5366384 (iD)12026-06-29 08:02openedAngus LeeThe place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-06-24T00:53:17Z POI has no name POI types: amenity-restaurant #organicmaps ios 2026.06.24-17-ios
22026-07-09 07:13commentedvectorial8192Referring to node https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/11395656769 Absolutely no extra info, instant delete.
32026-07-09 07:14closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185385463 ; closing.
5382207 (iD)12026-07-08 10:45openedxingshuD1
22026-07-08 21:55closedKovoschizosm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise used...
5058584 (iD)12025-11-18 17:07openedvectorial8192Should Tai Hang Sai Estate still retain landuse=residential? afaik judicial processes are withholding reconstruction, which means this estate is technically still inhabitable.
22025-11-19 10:34commentedKovoschizHave they not lost all the cases?
32025-11-19 10:56commentedvectorial8192This is the part which I am out of the loop. The verdicts and the judicial arguments are convoluting. afaik the Company convinced a significant majority of tenants to leave, but the few remaining made a JR/appeal, which "pins" this estate as `landuse=residential` despite "obviously a construction yard".
42025-11-19 11:45commentedvectorial8192OK, I read the news. Basically, the Company eventually got all the flats back after some verdicts + arbitration. de jure the Estate is still `landuse=residential` until (I think) Dec 2025, but me discovering this situation this late to the story, it would just be a technicality issue, and can't justify an OSM edit. I will just hold this note open...
52025-12-25 15:01commentedkingkingHKHi there, we are long into December, I guess that means we can close this note with no actions to take?
62025-12-25 15:34commentedvectorial8192I have no idea why, but I seem to keep reading about new judicial resolutions way into December. I do not know whether there are more ongoing judicial cases.
72026-02-22 15:29commentedkingkingHKAny updates on this note?
82026-02-22 15:55commentedvectorial8192No updates, but I am very afraid to close this. Last time (December) I thought all cases were closed already, and then a few days later I read about a few of them freshly closed. Best bet would be to wait for the Company to do work. I think the news was that the Company would start partial work on this site as it waits for the several remaining c...
92026-03-15 13:20commentedHenryEKthe sidewalk along wai chi street now has beams along it in preparation for demolition
102026-05-21 16:41commentedvectorial8192Apparently, legal process is still going. See below May 2026. Again, "I am very afraid to close this". https://thewitnesshk.com/%E5%B9%B3%E5%B1%8B%E6%8E%A7%E5%A4%A7%E5%9D%91%E8%A5%BF%E9%82%A8%E6%8B%92%E9%81%B7%E5%B1%85%E6%B0%91%E5%8B%9D%E8%A8%B4-%E5%B1%85%E6%B0%91%E9%9D%A2%E8%87%A8%E5%9F%B7%E9%81%94%E5%90%8F%E6%94%B6%E6%A8%93/
112026-06-06 14:41commentedkingkingHKYes, but if you are "discovering this situation this late to the story, it would just be a technicality issue, and can't justify an OSM edit", what is this note for?
122026-06-08 08:34commentedvectorial8192This is an extremely shitty residential area. The reason why no changes are possible is because OSM is for long term usage, but we know this residential area will become a construction area soon, just that we don't know when, so it doesn't justify an OSM edit. This does not stop this area from being an extremely shitty residential area, which is di...
132026-06-08 11:08commentedkingkingHKThe purpose of notes is to "assist others in mapping/editing". If no action can be taken, how is it not closable? Cf. e.g. we have previously closed notes from maps.me placed at the centre of large polygons, making the location inaccurate, on the basis that it is impossible to know where the action is needed, even though the text of the note is pe...
142026-06-09 08:10commentedHenryEKwell man tai house is currently being demolished
152026-06-09 13:57commentedvectorial8192On top of tracking demolition progress, I rather keep this note open than to have someone update the Estate to be a residential area, which is technically correct but contextually very inappropriate. We can keep this note open until we are sure the last of the JR processes are complete; the Company will likely make press releases when that happens...
162026-06-18 18:30commentedvectorial8192New JR: https://hkcourtnews.com/%E5%A4%A7%E5%9D%91%E8%A5%BF%E9%82%A8%E6%B8%85%E6%8B%86%E7%88%AD%E8%AD%B0%EF%BD%9C%E5%B1%85%E6%B0%91%E7%94%B3%E5%8F%B8%E6%B3%95%E8%A6%86%E6%A0%B8%E3%80%80%E7%A8%B1%E3%80%8C%E6%94%9E%E5%9B%9E%E5%90%88/ Apparently the estate is still mail-able. Like, we are frustrated, the residents (plaintiff) are frustrated, the res...
172026-07-08 09:57commentedHenryEKman lee, man shun and man hong house have been demolished
5296571 (iD)12026-05-17 08:40openedkingkingHKtodo: bridge has bollard separation; draw as two ways
22026-07-07 14:06commentedvectorial8192There are no bus relations here, which is nice. One challenge is to align this correctly along the hillside.
32026-07-07 14:38commentedvectorial8192Actually, if we also check the nearby roads, then the changeset would also involve bus relations.
42026-07-07 16:06commentedvectorial8192We will start with the physical separation itself, with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185268030
5213335 (iD)12026-03-21 08:23openedAngus Lee"Correct place name is SP_CE but the app doesn’t allow _." OSM snapshot date: 2026-03-10T00:09:11Z POI name: SP CE POI types: amenity-cafe internet_access-wlan #organicmaps ios 2026.03.11-12-ios
22026-04-19 09:40commentedkingkingHKYes
32026-05-15 08:00closedpauline6luk
42026-05-15 09:16reopenedkingkingHK
52026-05-15 09:16commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
62026-06-03 16:25closedYogicat
72026-07-07 14:08reopenedvectorial8192
82026-07-07 14:08commentedvectorial8192This slipped past our notifications. Is this really done yet?
92026-07-07 14:41closedkingkingHKYes https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183597599 I can testify that my survey 2.5 months ago agree with the quoted changeset
5380551 (iD)12026-07-07 14:32openedvectorial8192issue: CTB 1M https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/14134677 Validator warning: route scheme is unspecified; clarify "public_transport:version"
5380549 (iD)12026-07-07 14:31openedvectorial8192issue: CTB 41A https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8161675 https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8161682 Validator warning: route scheme is unspecified; clarify "public_transport:version"
5347052 (iD)12026-06-16 10:09openedvectorial8192todo/issue: closed
22026-07-07 14:05closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185261476 ; closing.
5376347 (iD)12026-07-05 13:05openedRosy-xzy域多利炮台遗址
22026-07-07 13:57closedvectorial8192I do not believe HKU has ever researched or deployed artillery systems. Closing.
5376335 (iD)12026-07-05 12:59openedRosy-xzy的撒大
22026-07-07 13:53closedvectorial8192Meaning is unclear; closing.
5379723 (iD)12026-07-07 06:14opened香港注冊會計香港注冊會計
22026-07-07 13:52closedvectorial8192Meaning is unclear; closing.
5286453 (iD)12026-05-10 15:28openedvectorial8192todo/issue: review petrol station (duplicate mapping?)
22026-07-07 13:49closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185260718 ; closing.
5292908 (iD)12026-05-15 05:36openedAngus Lee"Relocated." The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-05-03T01:52:52Z POI name: 大家樂 Café de Coral POI types: amenity-fast_food #organicmaps ios 2026.05.12-1-ios
22026-05-16 10:08commentedkingkingHKhttps://www.eatcdc.com/eng/main/terms.jsp?id=B2D0P2M0R0Y891E8L1D18188M4G0A802 agrees (Also, you can just update the map yourself if you know about the situation.)
32026-07-07 13:35commentedvectorial8192Remember that not every OSM member is an OSM mapper. Some are advocates (e.g. Google Maps hater), some others are just "friendly neighbours" that uses the gamified OSM mapping apps. Though, from operations standpoint, if a guy can produce a lot of notes via OrganicMaps, then the guy probably should learn e.g. how to use iD to streamline the update...
42026-07-07 13:42closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185260447 ; closing.
5292909 (iD)12026-05-15 05:36openedAngus Lee"Closed." The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-05-03T01:52:52Z POI name: 薩莉亞 Saizeriya POI types: cuisine-italian amenity-restaurant #organicmaps ios 2026.05.12-1-ios
22026-05-16 10:09commentedkingkingHKhttps://www.saizeriya.com.hk/shop-info/?lang=en agrees
32026-07-07 13:33closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185260079 ; closing.
5152477 (iD)12026-02-03 02:56openedHenryEKnode 5745603464 seems to no longer exist and is just a blank mount where the attraction once was as of yesterday https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5745603464
22026-02-23 10:46commentedkingkingHKDon't know what it looked like originally, but indeed can't find any "railway models" here so this is believable.
32026-02-23 23:14commentedHenryEKit was like those minature railways that went around and around from what i remember years ago but now its just a flat surface much like a table with nothing on it from what i found when i went like twenty days ago the area is locked behind a gate
42026-07-07 13:31closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185260005 ; closing.
5286451 (iD)12026-05-10 15:26openedvectorial8192todo/issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5286446 "EXXO" is not a known fuel company; did you mean "Esso"?
22026-06-11 10:34commentedkingkingHKBy survey, indeed this is an Esso.
32026-07-07 13:21closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185259536 ; closing.
5361744 (iD)12026-06-26 05:36openedJon WangMessed up Border Label. Make sure to be careful when updating.
22026-06-26 07:22commentedkingkingHKAre you trying to point out any issues in osm data?
32026-06-30 13:06commentedvectorial8192Opening the map in this area reveals an unrendered, free-hanging point: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13895856702 The node seems to indicate a data error, where (based on the existing border areas) features are wrongly delegated to the HK OSM Group for maintenance. As members of the HK OSM Group. we should review the relevant PRC docs and de...
42026-06-30 13:13commentedvectorial8192Referenced by cross-border duplicate https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5361745 , which explains the border control situation in this area.
52026-06-30 13:20commentedvectorial8192Special note: Because Sha Tau Kok border crossing is being rebuilt, and I don't think any HK mapper here has STK Border Area permit, we will have to fully armchair this. We should give this to Discord for discussion.
62026-06-30 23:00commentedJon Wangsome of the areas are only accessible from mainland side And there could be some trobule referencing/editing that,plus Not much mainland were contact with hk mapper on this issue.I think this worth a note anyway.
72026-06-30 23:00commentedJon Wangi meant mainlander(i'm one of them)But you guys can get that idea.
82026-07-01 08:59commentedvectorial8192Understandable. We use OSM notes to point out data problems. The OSM platform allows global communication, so CN-HK both sides can detect and know there is this data problem.
92026-07-01 10:40commentedvectorial8192So far I can see the problem is that the legal boundaries and the actual lines-of-control seems to be different; some places are outside HK border control, suggesting CN direct control.
102026-07-04 16:56commentedvectorial8192An effective international example is found: the River Moselle, running along Germany and Luxembourg, is a condominium of both. We can see that overlapping boundary relations is an acceptable mapping style.
112026-07-07 11:46commentedvectorial8192Upon further review, this is actually not a condominium. For example, the Hong Kong government does not pay for the upkeep of the Sha Tau Kok neighbourhood east of the defined borders. A more appropriate understanding of this border situation is "Schengen area with extra steps". While EU citizens may freely move between Schengen countries, this do...
122026-07-07 13:16closedvectorial8192Because both sides (CN and HK) require readily-available special travel documents to access the respective sides of the open-borders Sha Tau Kok / Shatoujiao neighbourhood, all relevant streets are given access=permit . Note that HK Sha Tau Kok was previously closed off to the HK public (therefore should have been access=private ), but this policy...
5294038 (iD)12026-05-15 19:27openedvectorial8192issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1505900060 descriptive name
22026-05-15 19:28commentedvectorial8192probable motivation https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5276301
32026-05-28 13:17commentedJon Wangcould www.map.gov.hk provide a potential solution & description to the area nearby? It doesn't seem very precise and i just don't know how to deal with it
42026-05-28 18:57commentedKovoschizNo https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licensing_Working_Group/Minutes/2024-05-13#Ticket#2024040710000103_–_Database_for_importing_license_question
52026-05-29 08:18commentedJon WangFine,but i'll keep that name for reference only(since it's likely havin'a same name to the 岗下 parking area nearby yet i couldn't confirm it online so i'll assume it had an independent name as that anyways)
62026-05-30 18:28commentedvectorial8192Outside of the copyright concerns, it's actually ok for car parks to have no names. Either it really doesn't have a name (rural informal parking area), or it really does have a name but that it's too unobvious (e.g. urban area "unnamed" parking area in unused land). Alternatively, we could put the "name" into description, which may be more appropr...
72026-05-31 06:49commentedkingkingHKIndeed. Further reading: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Name_is_the_name_only
82026-07-07 12:16closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185256327 ; closing.
5374730 (iD)12026-07-04 16:11openedRosy-xzy白沙湾炮台
22026-07-07 11:56commentedvectorial8192According to online info, this area is not open to public. We may want to confirm this and then e.g. update the access tags.
5374702 (iD)12026-07-04 15:57openedRosy-xzy旧鲤鱼门军营第十三座
22026-07-05 19:58closedKovoschiz osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise use...
32026-07-07 11:54reopenedvectorial8192
42026-07-07 11:55commentedvectorial8192Nah. We cannot find the "Block 13" in the map. This note is valid.
5378014 (iD)12026-07-06 09:07openedvectorial8192issue: street distortion
22026-07-06 09:28commentedvectorial8192offender: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185172923
32026-07-06 19:32closedKovoschizWhy don't you revert it then? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185216672
5327315 (iD)12026-06-05 06:17openedclsunny海下應在此位置,不應在啟才學校附近。
22026-07-04 16:58commentedvectorial8192Refers to https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/11009757918
32026-07-06 18:11commentedvectorial8192Makes sense. "isolated_dwelling" should be placed at houses, not at schools.
42026-07-06 18:19closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/185211089 ; closing.
5375969 (iD)12026-07-05 10:34openedRosy-xzy亚比安炮台(昂船洲炮台群)
22026-07-05 11:58commentedHenryEKisnt stonecutters albion already dismantled and built over? i know the other batteries are still present although ruined, but im pretty sure this one was demolished
32026-07-05 18:26commentedvectorial8192I do not think we are supposed to touch or clarify the Chinese barracks inside HK. This would likely violate CN mapping or national security regulations.
42026-07-06 04:37commentedHenryEKthis seems to just be part of a mass note creation related to hong kongs historical batteries, regardless of if they exist, or are already present on the map for this particular note, im sure albion battery no longer exists, so it can simply be resolved without change however the other stonecutters island batteries are indeed there, but due to wh...
5377849 (iD)12026-07-06 04:15openedHenryEKboundary point 12 (22°14’21.4’’ N 113°49’35.0’’ E) is missing Order of the State Council of the People’s Republic of China No. 221 https://www.elegislation.gov.hk/hk/A207!en.assist.pdf page 6 - (2) southern sea section - 4
5374402 (iD)12026-07-04 14:18openedRosy-xzy东龙洲炮台(佛堂门炮台)
22026-07-05 20:01closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/256863281 osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discus...
5374412 (iD)12026-07-04 14:25openedRosy-xzy博加拉炮台
22026-07-05 20:00closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1131047306 osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general disc...
5374432 (iD)12026-07-04 14:35openedRosy-xzy鹤咀炮台
22026-07-05 20:00closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8657397296 osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general disc...
5374459 (iD)12026-07-04 14:51openedRosy-xzy歌连臣角炮台
22026-07-05 20:00closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1093902109 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1093902109
5374481 (iD)12026-07-04 15:00openedRosy-xzy新界西貢魔鬼山軍事設施(歌赋炮台)
22026-07-05 19:59closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/175259688 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/175259688
32026-07-05 19:59reopenedKovoschiz
42026-07-05 19:59closedKovoschiz osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise use...
5375693 (iD)12026-07-05 09:31opened九龙寨城南门遗址(九龙寨城公园)
22026-07-05 19:57closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/263310044 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/263310044
5375697 (iD)12026-07-05 09:31opened九龙寨城衙门(九龙寨城公园)
22026-07-05 19:57closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/18506822 osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general di...
5376243 (iD)12026-07-05 12:04openedRosy-xzy摩星岭炮台
22026-07-05 19:56closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/321778499 osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discus...
5376352 (iD)12026-07-05 13:12openedRosy-xzy旧三军司令官邸
22026-07-05 19:54closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/42255475
32026-07-05 19:55reopenedKovoschiz
42026-07-05 19:55closedKovoschiz osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise use...
5376424 (iD)12026-07-05 13:20openedRosy-xzy卡素楼
22026-07-05 19:54closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/114282496 osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discus...
5376430 (iD)12026-07-05 13:28openedRosy-xzy域多利军营罗年信楼
22026-07-05 19:54closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/114282497 osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discus...
5376427 (iD)12026-07-05 13:26openedRosy-xzy域多利军营华褔楼
22026-07-05 19:53closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/114282541 osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discus...
5376433 (iD)12026-07-05 13:29openedRosy-xzy域多利军营蒙高玛莉楼
22026-07-05 19:53closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/815898761 osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discus...
5376435 (iD)12026-07-05 13:31openedRosy-xzy域多利军营罗拔时楼
22026-07-05 19:53closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/815898760 osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discus...
5376436 (iD)12026-07-05 13:32openedRosy-xzy域多利军营军火库
22026-07-05 19:52closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/863303779 osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discus...
5376501 (iD)12026-07-05 14:03openedRosy-xzy鸭巴甸炮台(香港仔炮台、鸭脷洲炮台)
22026-07-05 19:52closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1072971168 osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discu...
5376509 (iD)12026-07-05 14:06openedRosy-xzy东涌炮台
22026-07-05 19:51closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/102127581 osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discuss...
5376512 (iD)12026-07-05 14:08openedRosy-xzy东涌小炮台
22026-07-05 19:51closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1167836696 osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discu...
5376517 (iD)12026-07-05 14:10openedRosy-xzy分流炮台
22026-07-05 19:50closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/105234588
32026-07-05 19:50reopenedKovoschiz
42026-07-05 19:50closedKovoschizosm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise used...
5374725 (iD)12026-07-04 16:06openedRosy-xzy旧鲤鱼门军营第三座
22026-07-05 18:53closedvectorial8192OSM in general does not process historical map data; these data should be redirected to OpenHistoricalMap. OSM 一般而言並不處理歷史地圖資料;這些資料應被轉移至 OpenHistoricalMap 。
32026-07-05 19:47reopenedKovoschiz
42026-07-05 19:48closedKovoschizAlready added `historic=fort` (which can be improved) https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/557930264
5374564 (iD)12026-07-04 15:31openedRosy-xzy鲤鱼门炮台
22026-07-05 18:57closedvectorial8192Feature already exists as https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5040215422 ; closing.
5374728 (iD)12026-07-04 16:08openedRosy-xzy旧鲤鱼门军营第五座
22026-07-05 18:53closedvectorial8192OSM in general does not process historical map data; these data should be redirected to OpenHistoricalMap. OSM 一般而言並不處理歷史地圖資料;這些資料應被轉移至 OpenHistoricalMap 。
5374717 (iD)12026-07-04 16:02openedRosy-xzy旧鲤鱼门军营第十七座
22026-07-05 18:53closedvectorial8192OSM in general does not process historical map data; these data should be redirected to OpenHistoricalMap. OSM 一般而言並不處理歷史地圖資料;這些資料應被轉移至 OpenHistoricalMap 。
5374691 (iD)12026-07-04 15:49openedRosy-xzy旧鲤鱼门军营第十八座
22026-07-05 18:53closedvectorial8192OSM in general does not process historical map data; these data should be redirected to OpenHistoricalMap. OSM 一般而言並不處理歷史地圖資料;這些資料應被轉移至 OpenHistoricalMap 。
5374695 (iD)12026-07-04 15:53openedRosy-xzy旧鲤鱼门军营第二十座
22026-07-05 18:53closedvectorial8192OSM in general does not process historical map data; these data should be redirected to OpenHistoricalMap. OSM 一般而言並不處理歷史地圖資料;這些資料應被轉移至 OpenHistoricalMap 。
5374701 (iD)12026-07-04 15:55openedRosy-xzy旧鲤鱼门军营第二十一座
22026-07-05 18:52closedvectorial8192OSM in general does not process historical map data; these data should be redirected to OpenHistoricalMap. OSM 一般而言並不處理歷史地圖資料;這些資料應被轉移至 OpenHistoricalMap 。
5374708 (iD)12026-07-04 16:00openedRosy-xzy旧鲤鱼门军营第三十一座
22026-07-05 18:52closedvectorial8192OSM in general does not process historical map data; these data should be redirected to OpenHistoricalMap. OSM 一般而言並不處理歷史地圖資料;這些資料應被轉移至 OpenHistoricalMap 。
5374712 (iD)12026-07-04 16:01openedRosy-xzy旧鲤鱼门军营第三十二座
22026-07-05 18:52closedvectorial8192OSM in general does not process historical map data; these data should be redirected to OpenHistoricalMap. OSM 一般而言並不處理歷史地圖資料;這些資料應被轉移至 OpenHistoricalMap 。
5374722 (iD)12026-07-04 16:03openedRosy-xzy旧鲤鱼门军营第三十三座
22026-07-05 18:52closedvectorial8192OSM in general does not process historical map data; these data should be redirected to OpenHistoricalMap. OSM 一般而言並不處理歷史地圖資料;這些資料應被轉移至 OpenHistoricalMap 。
5374724 (iD)12026-07-04 16:05openedRosy-xzy旧鲤鱼门军营第三十四座
22026-07-05 18:52closedvectorial8192OSM in general does not process historical map data; these data should be redirected to OpenHistoricalMap. OSM 一般而言並不處理歷史地圖資料;這些資料應被轉移至 OpenHistoricalMap 。
5376252 (iD)12026-07-05 12:10openedRosy-xzy松林炮台(龙虎山炮台)
22026-07-05 12:15commentedHenryEKalready present - node/26412912 - although improvements can be done to it i guess
5376154 (iD)12026-07-05 11:44openedRosy-xzy昂船洲军营(驻香港部队展览中心)
22026-07-05 12:06closedHenryEKfix - changeset/185131772 changed tag(s):name before: name = 驻香港部队展览中心 after name = 駐香港部隊展覽中心 PLA Hong Kong Garrison Exhibition Centre name:zh-Hans = 驻香港部队展览中心
5376163 (iD)12026-07-05 11:49openedRosy-xzy银禧炮台
5376017 (iD)12026-07-05 11:13openedRosy-xzy昂船洲西炮台(昂船洲炮台群)
5376013 (iD)12026-07-05 11:11openedRosy-xzy昂船洲南海岸炮台(昂船洲炮台群)
5376008 (iD)12026-07-05 11:06openedRosy-xzy昂船洲中央炮台(昂船洲炮台群)
5375999 (iD)12026-07-05 10:58openedRosy-xzy昂船洲东炮台(昂船洲炮台群)
5375990 (iD)12026-07-05 10:52openedRosy-xzy百夫长炮台(昂船洲炮台群)
5357794 (iD)12026-06-23 13:27openedAngus LeeThe place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-05-27T00:05:23Z POI has no name POI types: amenity-restaurant #organicmaps ios 2026.06.01-1-ios
22026-07-04 17:48commentedvectorial8192Probably for "Angus Steak and Wine" https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9408983817
5374762 (iD)12026-07-04 16:16openedRosy-xzy西湾棱堡及西湾山炮台
5374582 (iD)12026-07-04 15:40openedRosy-xzy旧鲤鱼门军营第二十五座(军官食堂)
5374577 (iD)12026-07-04 15:38openedRosy-xzy旧鲤鱼门军营第十座(皇家炮兵团军官宿舍)
5374569 (iD)12026-07-04 15:35openedRosy-xzy旧鲤鱼门军营第七座(皇家炮兵团军官宿舍)
5374455 (iD)12026-07-04 14:50openedRosy-xzy歌连臣角炮台
22026-07-04 14:51closedRosy-xzy
5373666 (iD)12026-07-03 21:44openedKMB Zone4承豐道
22026-07-04 10:36closedKovoschiz osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise us...
5373663 (iD)12026-07-03 21:40openedKMB Zone4承景街
22026-07-04 10:36closedKovoschiz osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise us...
5373662 (iD)12026-07-03 21:40openedKMB Zone4承景街
22026-07-04 10:36closedKovoschiz osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise us...
5373659 (iD)12026-07-03 21:38openedKMB Zone4承豐道
22026-07-04 10:36closedKovoschiz osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise us...
5373656 (iD)12026-07-03 21:36openedKMB Zone4鑽石山站
22026-07-04 10:36closedKovoschiz osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise us...
5373655 (iD)12026-07-03 21:35openedKMB Zone4大成街
22026-07-04 10:35closedKovoschiz osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise us...
5373648 (iD)12026-07-03 21:28openedKMB Zone4大有街
22026-07-04 10:35closedKovoschiz osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise us...
5373639 (iD)12026-07-03 21:21openedKMB Zone4打鼓嶺道
22026-07-04 10:35closedKovoschiz osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise us...
5370720 (iD)12026-07-02 06:53openedFame Limpid Design
5366682 (iD)12026-06-29 10:59openedvectorial8192todo: it seems this bus terminus is now open?
22026-07-01 12:51commentedvectorial8192We do have this https://www.td.gov.hk/tc/traffic_notices/index_id_87349.html
32026-07-01 12:56closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184907400 ; closing.
5361745 (iD)12026-06-26 05:39openedJon Wangpedestrian walking zone without border control layers(!) for reference 'cause this place has a messy border structure like the West Bank no matter how you check it from both sides.multi-polygon label shall be kept if no significant construction 's occurred
22026-06-26 07:22commentedkingkingHKAre you trying to point out any issues in osm data?
32026-06-30 12:48commentedvectorial8192West Bank? Jordan River and Israel????? From what I can understand, Sha Tau Kok actually has "open border" policy where approved HK persons may freely move between the HK and the CN side, for neighbourhood cohesion. However this is limited to HK persons that already have the Border Permit, so a random guy from Mong Kok will likely fail to move thr...
42026-06-30 13:12closedvectorial8192Upon further review, this is a cross-border duplicate of https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5361744 . This hints towards a HK-side data problem. As such, I am crossing the line to close this note in favor of the HK-side note, which has a more practical explanation of the situation.
5368150 (iD)12026-06-30 12:30openedAngus LeeThe place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-06-24T00:53:17Z POI name: Le Petit Prince POI types: amenity-restaurant #organicmaps ios 2026.06.24-17-ios
5366484 (iD)12026-06-29 09:17openedpolodoFix position via StreetComplete 63.1
22026-06-29 10:37closedpolodo
5366383 (iD)12026-06-29 08:02openedAngus LeeThe place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-06-24T00:53:17Z POI name: 粵廚點心專門店 Canton's Kitchen Dim Sum Exper POI types: amenity-restaurant #organicmaps ios 2026.06.24-17-ios
5360199 (iD)12026-06-25 05:35openedkingkingHKtodo: road closure on 28 June
22026-06-27 19:16commentedvectorial8192Armchair time. We will start by marking the affected roads as "unusable" since these are still observable on the ground. Then, when the time comes, we can mark them as "demolished".
32026-06-27 19:20commentedvectorial8192Desync. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184704033
42026-06-28 06:09commentedkingkingHKThen, the next step would be to migrate the bus relations. We may survey this to really take a deeper look into the situation to improve the mapping, but it might not be the most important, as per "OSM is not a worksite management software".
52026-06-28 10:39commentedkingkingHKSomeone did something: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184731579
5129081 (iD)12026-01-14 14:36openedkingkingHKhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/889581234 construction probably finished, according to aerial imagery.
22026-02-23 10:47commentedkingkingHKConstruction finished, but somehow I couldn't find the entrance irl.
32026-06-27 11:27commentedvectorial8192Not sure which side you went, but aerial imagery suggests the opening could be at "22.438334,114.182104". It does not seem likely for the site to have an entrance next to the CLP site.
42026-06-27 11:33commentedvectorial8192However, per https://www.landsd.gov.hk/doc/tc/consent/monthly/t2c_2405.pdf , the provisional address does hint towards the entrance being next to the CLP site, contrary to what aerial imagery would suggest.
52026-06-27 11:51commentedkingkingHKIf I remember correctly I went near your coordinates, but failed to find any entrances. Although maybe I just missed it.
5357832 (iD)12026-06-23 14:04openedvectorial8192concern: from https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180536189 , re https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1493588817 Is this path actually usable? @kingkingHK states they could verify the path was reachable from Lung Cheong Road, but only verified for halfway length. We should verify that the lower half is reachable from Beacon Hill Road, and there...
22026-06-25 00:20commentedHenryEKwas here a few months ago (around march) its just a slope maintanence stairway. gate is closed at the top. never used it. i assumed i would be tresspassing
32026-06-25 00:22commentedHenryEKthat was from lung cheung road though, never seen if it actually leads down to bhr
42026-06-25 18:57commentedvectorial8192Slop maintenance would be immediately access=private and then case closed. Still, we can see what is going on at the lower side.
52026-06-26 12:05commentedkingkingHKActually I think we should check the laws for slope maintenance paths first. I don't know if there are laws specifically prohibiting unauthorised access to slope maintenance paths, but if not it feels very wrong to apply `access=private`, especially as the gates of some are rarely locked, or simply useless (e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/laapsaaptun...
62026-06-26 16:13commentedHenryEKtheres one path i know about (way/602397676) that is for slope maintanence but the gate is tied open and a lot of people including myself use
72026-06-27 09:09commentedvectorial8192While I cannot immediately provide examples, some slope maintenance paths are green signposted as roughly "no unauthorized entry", which means instant access=private and case closed, which doesn't care about whether the gates are physically open or not. It is unclear whether this case is one of them.
5362130 (iD)12026-06-26 11:18openedAngus LeeThe place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-05-27T00:05:23Z POI name: Jabbok Piano Co. POI types: shop-musical_instrument #organicmaps ios 2026.06.01-1-ios
5304280 (iD)12026-05-22 10:46openedvectorial8192issue: why suddenly highway=secondary ? seems can be just highway=tertiary all the way through.
22026-05-22 10:53commentedkingkingHKConnaught Road W -> QRW?
32026-05-25 10:48commentedvectorial8192If say this, then I presume is actually Route 3 -> Queens Road. Mapillary is difficult to click in this area, but it seems Whitty Street is just a generic internal road and might be highway=unclassified instead. Also/Then, consider "[...] -> Western Street -> Queens Road", which seems to be planning-intended path. No matter what happens, having a...
42026-05-25 11:21commentedkingkingHKWhat does mapillary have to do with this? Highway classification is functional, not physical. Don't understand why you mentioned Western Street, when it doesn't even connect to Route 3. This is also clearly not free-standing or violating highway continuity rule. The highway continuity rule only says highway classification shouldn't change without...
52026-05-30 08:46commentedkingkingHKIf no further discussion after a week or two I will close this note.
62026-05-30 11:15commentedKovoschizWestern St: `=secondary` (incidentally) Whitty St: `=tertiary` What's the problem? And for leaving, Hill Rd is `=tertiary` , while there's Water St `=secondary`
72026-05-31 10:57commentedvectorial8192To refocus the discussion, the core concern is: this section of Des Voeux Road West somehow got highway=secondary , which seems like a mistake, or somehow doesn't fit OSM Global standards. Either I missed something, or this is a real mistake. Disregarding my doubts on the "functional only" doctrine, it seems no problem if we demote this section (b...
82026-05-31 16:12commentedkingkingHK"two tertiary roads join together to become secondary" is not necessarily true, but can act as a rule of thumb.
92026-05-31 19:55commentedKovoschizThe 2 `=tertiary` have different functionalities. DVRW westbound is a roadway across the part of an area. Whitty St is connecting QRW.
102026-06-23 08:45commentedkingkingHKQuestion answered with no more activity; propose closing.
112026-06-23 15:57commentedvectorial8192I intend to survey this a bit (Mapillary is difficult to click). Granted, I haven't done HKI notes for a long while so I may not immediately do this.
122026-06-23 19:18commentedKovoschizWhat needs to be checked?
132026-06-24 15:41commentedkingkingHKEchoing @Kovoschiz; what point can you not make without a survey?
142026-06-25 17:59commentedvectorial8192Whitty Street seems too generic to be highway=tertiary , but Mapillary imagery is incomplete.
152026-06-25 18:26commentedKovoschizWhat is "generic"?
162026-06-25 19:10commentedvectorial8192A better word is "unremarkable". Maybe I should just check the street by myself, seeing that I can't justify the case well. We did have an answer for "why we have tertiary roads here", but the core issue "why we have a single segment of secondary road here" remains unresolved. To me, ignoring the situation at Whitty Street, it seems the secondary ...
5300387 (iD)12026-05-19 18:14openedvectorial8192todo: physical separation / traffic island ------------- While we are here, an experimental junction tagging method may be considered. The proposed method involves drawing two oneway=alternating ways to form a triangular junction area, with appropriate turn restrictions. This preserves junction topology while maintaining reasonable GPS accuracy ...
22026-05-20 12:16commentedkingkingHKSorry, I'm not sure what you mean by your experimental tagging method. Can you discuss this on e.g. Discord first?
32026-06-17 12:45commentedkingkingHKAs a heads-up, if you don't clarify what your experiment tagging is by the time I/we resolves all actionable notes (could be in a month or two at the quickest), I will just map this junction the normal way and resolves this note. You say you have 10+ pending discussions and that you have to do it one by one to prevent overload, but seeing you have...
42026-06-23 12:56commentedvectorial8192Don't worry, I will just force-revive this when that happens.
52026-06-23 12:58commentedvectorial8192Beyond this specific note, given that new notes are submitted at random interval, it may not be reasonable to expect that we can achieve "all notes are closed" situation.
62026-06-23 19:17commentedKovoschiz97% closed should be top among cities. Germany is 95%.
72026-06-25 18:14commentedvectorial8192We are probably looking at the neis-one statistics. For fair comparison we should be looking at city-states (or equivalent), which I can list as Macau, Singapore, Gibraltar, and Liechtenstein; we should not be looking at "full countries", though the German 95% is very impressive. As of writing, LI 98%, HK 97%, SG 89%, MO 87%, GI 80%. LI has best "...
5323246 (iD)12026-06-02 14:59openedvectorial8192concern: What does the e.g. land deed say about the access rights/conditions of O King Road? Why not make it highway=tertiary for giving access to Tiu Keng Leng?
22026-06-02 15:00commentedvectorial8192(Note: looking up land deed etc does not seem trivial, and should be tracked as longer-term discussion.)
32026-06-02 15:47commentedkingkingHKNot too sure about the land deed stuff, but iirc non-residents of Ocean Shores are not allowed to use https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/914594331 , making O King Road a dead-end.
42026-06-02 15:48commentedkingkingHKA very simple proof is that if O King Road can be used as a through-road, then the traffic levels obviously won't be so low.
52026-06-02 17:31commentedvectorial8192The tricky part is that, because O King Road is the first car-usable road into TKO, I feel like the land deed etc should have something which grants some limited public access to it. Or that the guys at Ocean Shores has to pay for road upkeep, or sth. Details are unclear. It interacts with the hypothetical Yau Tong - Tiu Keng Leng tunnel project. ...
62026-06-02 19:03commentedKovoschizYou didn't respond to the question. Regardless of how's O King Rd, vehicles aren't allowed between it and Chui Ling Rd, making it a cul-de-sac. At most `=residential` in general, might be `=unclassified`
72026-06-23 08:45commentedkingkingHKQuestion answered with no more activity; propose closing.
82026-06-23 15:59commentedvectorial8192Me neutral. The key is the status of the "private road" section, but that could be reviewed as some sort of private interest study.
92026-06-24 05:31closedkingkingHKAt least, `highway=tertiary` is clearly wrong. Other reviewing/discussion is then unrelated to this note, and you may open another note if you notice a separate issue. Closing.
5339859 (iD)12026-06-11 16:29openedvectorial8192issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/659032301 dead sources, irl mismatch (Dedicated Rehousing Estate); what's going on here?
22026-06-23 14:18commentedkingkingHKBy survey, they are really building a dedicated rehousing estate here. I mean, on Esri imagery, we can see the foundations.
32026-06-23 16:17commentedvectorial8192OK, upon review, my big eyes have missed the following: https://www.hkhs.com/tc/our-business/dedicated-rehousing-estates > 其他項目則位於土瓜灣馬頭角及市區寮屋區,目前正在規劃中。
42026-06-23 16:25closedvectorial8192My apologies for the false alarm. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184479435 ; closing.
5346712 (iD)12026-06-16 01:16openedcrossrowlatebrain"duplicate" OSM snapshot date: 2026-05-27T00:05:23Z POI name: N1 Coffee and Co. POI types: amenity-cafe #organicmaps android 2026.05.27-11-FDroid
22026-06-21 16:48commentedvectorial8192Basically, duplicate between nodes https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3771427619 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5182609990 . @crossrowlatebrain can you confirm whether the cafe is streetside or internal?
32026-06-22 08:57commentedkingkingHK@vectorial8192 It doesn't really matter. Geometry doesn't need to be exact if the address tags are correct. <rant>What's the deal with mobile editors and low-quality changesets???</rant>
42026-06-23 08:46commentedkingkingHKBy survey, it's streetside.
52026-06-23 16:07commentedvectorial8192I was about to say, the positioning of the feature can help with navigation ("should I enter through this mall door?"), but I see you have already surveyed this.
62026-06-23 16:12closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184478978 ; closing.
5325931 (iD)12026-06-04 10:46openedopen time: daily 830 am to 5 pm #OsmAnd
22026-06-23 05:31commentedkingkingHKhttps://www.tszwankok.org.hk/contact-us agrees
32026-06-23 15:51closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184478126 ; closing.
5035617 (iD)12025-11-03 04:37openedkingkingHKDoes https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4442544111 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1102985991 really exist? Why are there traffic signals in the middle of nowhere with no junctions?
22025-11-04 07:52commentedvectorial8192Could be "road too narrow" so they set up traffic signals to ensure mutex access. Not every traffic signal needs to be at a junction (e.g. also see tunnel entrance traffic signals).
32025-11-04 11:22commentedkingkingHKCould be, but then there are many roads in Hong Kong narrower and busier than this road that still doesn't have traffic signals, and afaik this road is actually wide enough for two light vehicles to pass by each other. Would still recommend a survey to prove/disprove their existence.
42025-11-08 08:04commentedvectorial8192To add to this, aerial imagery (ESRI World Imagery) (see northeast) shows a section which is single-lane only. We may also faintly see a "stop here" line that often indicates a traffic signal. OSM also has `lanes=1` here. Mutex access is very very likely. It really isn't *that* wide. Perhaps survey is not needed because there is nothing to do.
52025-11-08 09:38closedkingkingHKWell, that sounds believable. Then, situation clarified via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/174362311 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/174363905 ; closing.
62026-01-17 06:46reopenedkingkingHK
72026-01-17 06:47commentedkingkingHKI recently heard that this traffic signal is disused/malfunctioning with no plans of repair. This might be `disused:highway=traffic_signals`. Survey recommended.
82026-06-23 14:40closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184475322 ; closing.
5357793 (iD)12026-06-23 13:27openedAngus LeeThe place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-05-27T00:05:23Z POI name: Fu Wing Property Agency POI types: office-estate_agent #organicmaps ios 2026.06.01-1-ios
5356624 (iD)12026-06-22 17:45openedAngus LeeThe place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-05-27T00:05:23Z POI name: 萬寧 Mannings POI types: shop-chemist amenity-pharmacy #organicmaps ios 2026.06.01-1-ios
5356623 (iD)12026-06-22 17:45openedAngus LeeThe place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-05-27T00:05:23Z POI name: 屈臣氏 Watsons POI types: shop-chemist amenity-pharmacy #organicmaps ios 2026.06.01-1-ios
5346713 (iD)12026-06-16 01:16openedcrossrowlatebrain"Duplicate" The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-05-27T00:05:23Z POI name: N1 Coffee and Co. POI types: amenity-cafe #organicmaps android 2026.05.27-11-FDroid
22026-06-16 05:26closedkingkingHKDupe https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5346713 Duplicate note complaining about duplicate data. Ironic.
32026-06-16 05:34reopenedkingkingHK
42026-06-16 05:34closedkingkingHKCorrection: dupe https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5346712
52026-06-21 16:56reopenedvectorial8192
62026-06-21 16:57closedvectorial8192Minor comment: Bad network connectivity can cause innocent resends and duplicates.
72026-06-22 08:52reopenedkingkingHK
82026-06-22 08:53closedkingkingHKCorrect in principle (I have known this since https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5286293 ), but for this specific case I find it unlikely to be a network problem as the note text is different.
5351891 (iD)12026-06-19 19:12openedvectorial8192concern: messy hotels (nodes)
22026-06-21 16:55commentedvectorial8192The concern is primarily on the 3 nodes: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13138061902 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5301835321 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13138066901 Online info suggests that there is one "Kingland Apartments" building which then contains several guesthouses, much like how Chungking Mansions etc work. This "King...
32026-06-21 17:15commentedvectorial8192Note that Chungking Mansions https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/39315991 is currently tagged as: - commercial landuse - retail building - apartment-style residences
5346741 (iD)12026-06-16 01:34openedcrossrowlatebrain"Duplicate" The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-05-27T00:05:23Z POI has no name POI types: amenity-cafe #organicmaps android 2026.05.27-11-FDroid
22026-06-21 16:50closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184393498 ; closing.
5348355 (iD)12026-06-17 05:19openedbyhgThis place does not exist: "Sorry, I made a mistake in editing" A CoMaps user reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-03-21T17:13:14Z POI name: 皇后街 POI types: highway-bus_stop #CoMaps android 2026.03.23-5
22026-06-17 05:19closedbyhg
32026-06-21 16:35reopenedvectorial8192
42026-06-21 16:37commentedvectorial8192"Resolve" means the issue (described by the map note) is fixed. Perhaps you clicked the wrong button. In terms of OSM website, the note will just disappear some time later and then we will not notice this issue unless we scan for map notes.
52026-06-21 16:45closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184393265 ; closing.
5351130 (iD)12026-06-19 08:29openedvectorial8192todo/issue: Shell does not have a location here; new operator?
22026-06-21 15:21commentedvectorial8192By survey, disused and boarded up.
32026-06-21 15:25closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184390032 ; closing.
5351135 (iD)12026-06-19 08:31openedvectorial8192todo: clarify fuel
22026-06-21 14:19closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184387602 ; closing.
5286443 (iD)12026-05-10 15:22openedvectorial8192issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4851750173 extremely unlikely petrol station
22026-05-10 21:31commentedKovoschizObvious Lying to Validator https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4851750173/history
32026-05-12 11:57commentedvectorial8192From https://www.shell.com.hk/en_hk/motorists/shell-station-locator.html we can see there is a legit fuel station down the block. A theory for this is that someone placed the right node at the wrong place (a shop in the fuel station?), and then other people blind-trusted the validator.
42026-05-12 19:49commentedKovoschizNo, there was a bottled gas `shop=` https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=779127392786721 https://www.hongkongssa.com/index.php/Home/Index/CharacteristicMerchant.html https://www.eeb.gov.hk/food/download/committees/fcab/c_SW0150_SW0152.pdf They moved to inner street (map not updated) https://dsg-energy.com/cylinder-shell-gas/
52026-06-21 13:46commentedvectorial8192By survey, the "outer side" is now all generic shops. In OSM we trust; very believable the (new) fuel shop is at the "inner side" now. Perhaps the Shell gas sales agreement expired so the underlying seller had to start a new shop.
62026-06-21 14:05commentedvectorial8192Granted, I made the mistake of not checking the inner street, but in the grand scheme of things, having a correct feature at the approx position is better than having a wrong feature.
72026-06-21 14:07closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184387156 ; closing.
5352458 (iD)12026-06-20 05:15opened邓氏宗祠
22026-06-20 05:16closedvectorial8192Feature already exists as https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/114392703 ; closing.
32026-06-20 14:58reopenedvectorial8192
42026-06-20 14:58closedvectorial8192OSM by default uses OSMCarto for basic map rendering, which may sometimes cause "missing names" due to lack of map space. Explore the large and diverse OSM ecosystem to find a specialized app/website that can render names appropriately. OSM 預設使用 OSMCarto 作基本展示用途,這有時候會因為地圖位置不足而出現「沒有名�...
52026-06-20 19:50reopenedKovoschiz
62026-06-20 19:53closedKovoschizPlease try other raster tilesets eg with higher zoom, if not different labeling engine, or using monolingual `name:*=` only https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/22.445092/114.009156&layers=PN Or vector https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/22.445092/114.009156&layers=VN
5351705 (iD)12026-06-19 16:44openedworldforhomeVu
22026-06-20 05:35closedkingkingHKMeaning is unclear; closing.
1385516 (iD)12018-05-07 10:15openedKing Nga Court Playground
22024-03-13 11:00closedCypp0847Location should be at 22.44032,114.16609 and marked already, resolved
32026-02-01 12:48reopenedkingkingHK
42026-02-01 12:49commentedkingkingHKThe aforementioned coordinates point to https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/545203291 , which is "Tak Nga Court Playground", not "King Nga Court Playground" as mentioned in this note. There is probably really an unmapped playground/park here.
52026-02-01 14:53commentedvectorial8192Seeing it isn't open to the public (King Nga Court is probably walled with access=private ), I am leaning towards closing this note without survey.
62026-02-01 15:09commentedkingkingHKI doubt it is walled with `access=private`; "gated communities" are rare in Hong Kong other than a few posh low-density estates.
72026-02-01 15:32commentedvectorial8192Newer HOS estates (e.g. this) are not posh but are walled off and access=private . Try it yourself.
82026-02-02 04:59commentedkingkingHKI didn't know about that. But this is built in the 1990s, no? I wouldn't call this a "newer estate". Anyway, survey recommended, especially as this place is not "extra rural".
92026-02-05 09:18commentedvectorial8192This is already new in the grander scheme of things. Look at older designs e.g. Wang Fuk Court next door, that one is old because it has a semi-open access control, which allows surveying and therefore has public interest.
102026-02-05 15:13commentedkingkingHKAnyhow, this location is easy to get to. I see no reason to not survey this to make sure.
112026-02-22 05:46commentedkingkingHKSomeone seems to be implying King Nga Court has no gates: https://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=2268280&pid=5395094
122026-03-20 12:52commentedvectorial8192By survey, as it turns out, King Nga Court is actually semi-open. Still, newer HOS Estates are indeed walled. There is indeed an unnamed park at this location, but of course it would have access=private here. Given the remote location of the park, are there any public interest in mapping this?
132026-03-20 13:32commentedkingkingHKI don't understand. What is "semi-open"? If it is open, how is it `access=private`? And how is an urban estate "remote"? Also, osm doesn't have a notability requirement, why can't one map it if one has the data?
142026-03-20 15:14commentedvectorial8192I invented this term "semi-open" to describe a place that is physically open (as in you can find a way in without crossing barriers etc), but have obvious indications that the place is `access=private`. This is different from `access=permissive` because fundamentally a semi-open place is not for the general public. In this case the playground is s...
152026-03-21 05:19commentedkingkingHK> A concern is the possible wrong signal to the general public that the park is open for general public. Then tag it as `access=private`? If data consumers can't comprehend such a basic tag then it's their fault. OSM runs on verifiability; if the feature can be viewed from a public space then I see no problem in mapping it, even if not visible fr...
162026-03-21 07:43commentedvectorial8192`access=permissive` requires "is open for general public use" (OSM Wiki) but this Estate is obviously not for general public use, and is "residents only", so it doesn't satisfy "for general public use". (I call this "semi-open".) My understanding of example of "permissive" are the many universities in HK where it's indeed for general public use, b...
172026-03-21 12:08commentedKovoschiz`access=` is only about whether you can use it legally, not physically. `=permissive` is publicly allowed/tolerated now, but no enshrined rights guaranteed. @vectorial8192 Carto renders at least some icons semi-transparently with different `access=`
182026-03-21 12:39commentedkingkingHKWithout physical gates or guards, it is impossible to tell a visitor from a resident, so a visitor can't be kicked out unless a guard confronts him and finds out that he is a visitor, which satisfies `=permissive`. Don't tag (or not tag) for the renderer; make a PR if you want renderers to show `access=private` differently.
192026-05-23 14:38commentedkingkingHKIf no further comments I will map the playground and tag it as `access=permissive`.
202026-05-25 12:03commentedvectorial8192I am leaning towards access=private ("semi-open") but other than this point, I have no more effective comment.
212026-05-25 13:26commentedkingkingHKI have gave my points for making it `access=permissive`, if you have no more comments to justify `access=private` then I will keep it as `access=permissive.`
222026-05-30 13:00commentedvectorial8192Lack of enforcement doesn't mean absence of rules. Your point of access=permissive is ultimately not convincing and possibly unfounded. I once again reiterate with the Wiki page for access=private , that the park is *not* for general public use. Features need not be physically barricaded to be access=private , such as in this case. The guards bein...
232026-05-30 13:13commentedkingkingHKWell consider this: private roads with no guards and gates is `access=permissive` (e.g. Cityone Shatin); how is this different?
242026-05-31 11:18commentedvectorial8192As I have found out by I think it was @Kovoschiz , examples like Cityone Shatin with "signposted private road" are actually ownership=private , and has nothing to do with access rights. Then, afaik Cityone Shatin doesn't really signpost about who may use those roads, which therefore finally gives it access=permissive . The "private road" sign itsel...
252026-05-31 11:24commentedvectorial8192Discord may or may not elaborate deeply what means by "signposted private road" but the quick takeaway is that, this is simply an act of "delegation" by Transport Department to delegate maintenance responsibilities to a private entity rather than the next-door Highways Department.
262026-06-18 10:57closedkingkingHKAfter rethinking, I now agree that this should be `access=private`. Resolved viahttps://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184260921 ; closing.
5347303 (iD)12026-06-16 13:40openedHenryEKpitch no longer exists, is only a construction site holding jacking pipes
22026-06-16 13:59closedkingkingHKYes that's exactly what current osm data shows, even though we may improve the name.
5249442 (iD)12026-04-14 10:16openedShipyard
22026-06-16 10:32closedAlfieWong314
32026-06-16 10:33reopenedAlfieWong314
42026-06-16 10:34closedAlfieWong314
52026-06-16 10:50reopenedkingkingHK
62026-06-16 10:50commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
5345765 (iD)12026-06-15 10:01openedTimmy Wong HKCE19-NTP10
22026-06-15 11:03closedTimmy Wong HK
5345762 (iD)12026-06-15 10:00openedTimmy Wong HKCE19-NTP09
22026-06-15 10:02closedTimmy Wong HK
5264909 (iD)12026-04-25 07:04openedvectorial8192issue: Foot path(s) cutting into a construction area?
22026-04-26 11:45commentedkingkingHKI guess simply a case of mapper mapping new stuff without caring about the existing features. By survey, yeah some construction work going on here, the entire park has been demolished besides a few trees.
32026-04-26 13:34commentedvectorial8192The original plan was to armchair this by searching whether there are any publicly announced construction works for this address, and then clarify the area; but OK with the survey.
42026-05-21 12:49commentedvectorial8192Upon closer look, not enough information. How does this intersect with the parking area on the south side?
52026-06-14 11:41commentedvectorial8192By survey, the polygon is just misleading.
62026-06-14 11:57closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184091140 ; closing.
5344188 (iD)12026-06-14 09:10opened沙田新城市
22026-06-14 09:46closedkingkingHKhttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes > For example never create notes such as "I was here on Saturday" or "There was a crime at this location". > 例如,千萬不要創建諸如“我星期六來過這裡”或“這裡發生過犯罪事件”之類的筆記。 To share an OSM location, please see: 如需分享一個OSM的位置,請參�...
4607075 (iD)12025-01-30 05:16openedSewage Treatment Plant
22025-04-07 14:49closedvectorial8192There are no evidence supporting this claim. Closing.
32026-06-12 09:45reopenedkingkingHK
42026-06-12 09:46commentedkingkingHKGovernment maps label this area as a sewage treatment plant. Aerial imagery also looks like one. We may survey this to try to see if there any signs/names, or just make a changeset if we trust the aerial imagery.
52026-06-12 15:17commentedvectorial8192There is no evidence to support this claim, unless you are saying this site is managed by AA, which means the site is not publicly known and it may be reasonable to omit this.
62026-06-13 04:07commentedkingkingHKIf hypothetically there is a sign there saying it is a sewage treatment plant, would that be enough evidence? And if the sign can be found with a survey, why shouldn't we keep this note open to track progress?
72026-06-13 09:12commentedKovoschiz@vectorial8192 1. Evidence can be found for it 2. It had `name=` as something else (which I simply changed to `description=` and correct attributes) 3. The road is publicly accessible
82026-06-13 10:17commentedvectorial8192It's very rare to have absolutely no remotely-related online info for this feature. Unsubscribing.
92026-06-13 11:06commentedkingkingHKExactly, because there's no online info, so this is not armchairrable, so I reopened the note.
102026-06-13 11:08commentedkingkingHKAnd, whatever this plot of land is, it's so tiny I would not expect any online info.
112026-06-14 07:36commentedKovoschizhttps://www.hongkongairport.com/en/sustainability/environment/water.page https://www.hidropolitikakademi.org/en/article/31251/hong-kong-airports-triple-water-system
5342638 (iD)12026-06-13 14:10openedvectorial8192issue: KMB 41M: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/14193642 Validator warning: route scheme is unspecified; clarify "public_transport:version"
22026-06-14 07:22closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184082286 ; closing.
5034355 (iD)12025-11-02 14:18openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22026-01-29 08:57commentedkingkingHKIndeed there is a Family Medicine Clinic here.
32026-06-13 11:52commentedvectorial8192We do have an FMC here, plus some other stuff.
42026-06-13 12:01closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184053278 ; closing.
5034356 (iD)12025-11-02 14:19openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic (it seems OSM doesn't have this?)
22026-01-29 08:57commentedkingkingHKIndeed there is a Family Medicine Clinic here.
32026-06-13 11:03commentedvectorial8192We do have an FMC here, plus some other stuff. There are 3 blocks here (A, B, C). Focusing on the FMC, we will just fill in the facilities located at the same block as the FMC. Other features can just be mapped in the general stream.
42026-06-13 11:51closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184052937 ; closing.
5341908 (iD)12026-06-13 03:32openedAngus Lee"Wrong location. It’s on opposite street." The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-05-27T00:05:23Z POI has no name POI types: tourism-hotel #organicmaps ios 2026.06.01-1-ios
22026-06-13 07:34commentedvectorial8192name:en=Bridal Tea House Hotel There are multiple items right here...
32026-06-13 07:44closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184044550 ; closing.
3154260 (iD)12022-04-27 08:26openedA building should be added here and known as "Wo Hop Shek Columbarium Phase II & IV". See pages 8 and 9 of https://www.legco.gov.hk/yr15-16/english/panels/fseh/papers/fseh20160412cb2-1220-3-e.pdf.
22024-02-13 09:29commentedvectorial8192Data (area) exists, but due to tree cover, if want to draw building outline, then need a site visit.
32025-01-15 10:14closedCypp0847This is not exactly a building but an open area. Closing https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/161374422
42026-02-01 12:34reopenedkingkingHK
52026-02-01 12:34commentedkingkingHKGovernment maps say "Wo Hop Shek Columbarium Phase II & Phase IV" is a building, not an open area. Survey needed.
62026-02-12 06:46commentedvectorial8192iirc this is a named area ("columbarium") with several unnamed small "mini-columbarium" buildings.
72026-06-11 08:35commentedkingkingHKOk, indeed what @vectorial8192 said was correct. I will need to think of a way to map this correctly.
82026-06-12 11:39commentedKovoschizI used `amenity=columbarium` for sites, and `man_made=tomb` + `tomb=columbarium` + `building=roof` for the structures. `cemetery=sector` on its own will be thought as graves, and it may be used for rows/groups/sections inside each structure.
92026-06-12 11:41commentedKovoschizSites meaning eg "Wo Hop Shek Columbarium". The phases should be something else. Or it depends on whether they are different facilities. The other problem is whether the 2 phases are different. If yes, they should be separated.
4957095 (iD)12025-09-11 11:40openedvectorial8192By pure coincidence, it is discovered that MTR is quite possibly using "vibe routing" here: TKL LOHAS branch LOHAS bound takes distinct paths per the vibes of the signaling system. Some instances may take the upper path while remaining instances take the lower path. This is highly unusual. Then, would the current mapping be correct? How should we...
22025-12-06 12:39commentedkingkingHKSorry I am not too sure what you mean, could you please elaborate? Specifically, which paths does the trains take? Which paths are the "upper path" and "lower path"?
32025-12-06 14:20commentedvectorial8192So basically, one day in September I was irl-reviewing some stuff and noted that the train took the upper path https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/485648069/history/8 Later, something else happened irl and I decided to visit this area again, but this time, the train took the lower path https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1428978599/history/1 This is ...
42025-12-06 14:22commentedvectorial8192I want to add that the OSM track layout near LOHAS Park has been confusing/wrong for a long time until the fateful 2-visits discovery that finally resulted in the current OSM track layout.
52025-12-07 09:27commentedkingkingHKDisclaimer: I am not very familiar with railway tagging It seems like the direction of travel of railways is tagged with `railway:preferred_direction` and `oneway=reversible` (only on tracks with a clear normal direction of travel. Then, based on what you said, it seems like www.openstreetmap.org/way/32226078 is used for both train to and from LO...
62025-12-07 09:36commentedkingkingHKSee https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/175614946
72025-12-07 10:32commentedvectorial8192Not too familiar with railway mapping myself, but it seems almost all segments implicitly have `oneway=reversible`; why this needs to be stated clearly idk. The idea is that at this moment, `oneway=?` is some value, but for another moment, `oneway=?` becomes another value, therefore `=reversible`. Trains may use "the opposite rail" depending on dep...
82026-05-23 12:40commentedkingkingHKI think we can map the relations if we can somehow identify a more commonly used route/main route.
92026-05-23 12:41commentedkingkingHKCf. island platform termini with reversing tracks before the station
102026-05-25 10:11commentedvectorial8192The rails were updated some time after my edits. I have a feeling the immediate sections outside of the x-rail is wrong, but that's way too long ago I cannot compare it from memory. What I can claim as "from memory" is that (from TKO) the train "switches to right side lane" without using any railway switch (ie the rails are curving like a proper x...
112026-05-25 10:13commentedvectorial8192Anyway, it does hint towards a possible fact that LOHAS Park station rails are not built in the "usual" symmetric way. We should (re)survey this.
122026-05-29 10:06commentedkingkingHKSupport a resurvey, but probably wait until we figure out how to properly measure railway curves (see e.g. Tuen Ma Line Hin Keng <-> Diamond Hill remeasurement; have you forgotten about that?)
132026-05-30 17:00commentedvectorial8192I still remember the Tuen Ma Line thingy, though admittedly with these many stuff going on (both on OSM and irl), that one simply doesn't "float back up" the task queue. For railway curves we can once again give to the ol-reliable Discord.
142026-05-31 14:21commentedkingkingHKRe too many stuff, understandable. I am certainly not immune from it either. But not sure what you mean by "ol-reliable Discord". What does giving to Discord do, when the OSM HK Discord server is largely just an echo chamber of me, you, and Kovoschiz?
152026-05-31 16:12commentedvectorial8192Discord is great for in-depth exploration e.g. images and long message chains and topic organization, which unfortunately OSM website / wiki is not too good at. I have general reservations against Discord ("closed web") but I have no effective alternative proposals. One mitigation would be we debate it to the very base level very intensely at Disco...
162026-05-31 18:01commentedKovoschizA Discourse forum category requires 3 moderators. That doesn't make sense if all 3 are the main active members. It doesn't have a chat for short questions either.
172026-05-31 18:08commentedKovoschizIt's possible to regularly make public Discord content, and Matrix should be possible, but can't see whether threads and posts are supported. May not be the best either. https://yui-kitamura.github.io/Discord2Html/index.html
182026-05-31 18:28commentedKovoschizIn terms of FOSS: Matrix somewhat works (but no threads and posts)
192026-06-02 14:03commentedvectorial8192I worded it poorly. Matrix is well-meaning but still "closed web". What I care is that e.g. Google Search can see our discussions and conclusions, for efficient info dissemination. Again, the mitigation / workaround is to discuss intensely at Discord, and then expand the HK OSM wiki page(s) with summaries.
202026-06-12 10:23commentedkingkingHKAgree with your workaround, but the HK OSM wiki pages look kinda abandoned. We might want to clean them up first, before adding any new info.
4922350 (iD)12025-08-21 16:34openedvectorial8192todo: review / update Lee Garden Eight
22025-09-30 10:16commentedkingkingHKCould you please elaborate on what needs reviewing/updating?
32025-09-30 12:46commentedvectorial8192eg, old demolished buildings from 2019 still exists here, and we can kinda see the shapes of new future buildings from satellite images, and also to determine what exactly will be built here (e.g. new district court?)
42025-09-30 12:46commentedvectorial8192* as in exists in the OSM map data
52026-06-12 10:01commentedkingkingHKA very trivial first step to make progress in this note and also to declutter the data in the area is to delete the demolished buildings, which is done in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/184008897 .
5286462 (iD)12026-05-10 13:32openedvectorial8192todo/issue: review petrol station (duplicate mapping?)
22026-06-11 15:16closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183976581 ; closing.
5296568 (iD)12026-05-17 06:38openedkingkingHKtodo: physical separation; draw as two ways
22026-05-30 17:20commentedvectorial8192Aerial imagery is showing something that looks like concrete slabs/kerbs.
32026-05-31 14:19commentedkingkingHKYes, which is physical separation.
42026-06-11 14:17commentedvectorial8192First, we split ways with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183973843
52026-06-11 14:19commentedvectorial8192Then, we clean up relations with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183973916
62026-06-11 14:19closedvectorial8192All done; closing.
5326149 (iD)12026-06-04 11:33openedvectorial8192concern: By survey and recent bus videos, the border control area is signposted as "Airport Control Area". Then, what do? Give to aerodrome?
22026-06-04 12:24commentedkingkingHKI haven't looked into the details yet, but first thought: airport control area =/= airport?
32026-06-05 08:02commentedKovoschiz@vectorial8192 Only the part in between belongs to AA (previously quarantine facility)
42026-06-05 08:02commentedKovoschiz@kingkingHK I did use `designation=` https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/30774625
52026-06-05 08:03commentedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1209353389
62026-06-06 07:39commentedvectorial8192The latest situation is that even this https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/639679829 is already AA. That's clearly not the quarantine area. Or maybe I got something wrong again. It feels natural that everything controlled by AA is part of the airport. Then again, I do not recall any airport in the world other than this one that handles both air and ...
72026-06-06 09:03commentedKovoschizMeant the part in between centered around the quarantine facility, not only it. The elevated section is out of Airport Area. Is the indoors and vehicles check plaza included though?
82026-06-06 09:56commentedvectorial8192I can't find exact details, but the vibe is that part of the Bridge Area is to be given / has already been given to the AA for future dev and maintenance purposes. As of writing we can see some works going on e.g. the enclosed bridge between the Bridge and SkyPier, but we can potentially wait for future opening to look into this in more detail. Or...
92026-06-07 09:57commentedKovoschizIs it not for Airport City Link only, and SkyPier only? The area around quarantine was for supporting Airport, Airport City, and Expo.
102026-06-08 05:22commentedvectorial8192Quoting District Council https://www.districtcouncils.gov.hk/island/doc/2024_2027/tc/committee_meetings_doc/DIDPC/29830/DIDPC_2025_2_TC.pdf para 9, 11, 12, 14; annex 1. Do those count as "attached to the airport" (me think yes)? For example, the Changi airport mall is still counted as "attached to the airport" and is therefore part of the aerodro...
112026-06-08 18:11commentedKovoschizSkytopia only includes the quarantine facility, and waters. Doesn't say the Clearance Building belongs to AA.
5195386 (iD)12026-03-08 05:33openedkingkingHKIs there a "Sushi Masa x Taiko Sake" at Shop H2B, G/F, Fashion Walk, 9 Kingston Street?
22026-05-19 12:03commentedkingkingHKTurns out, it is already mapped: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13343748386 but the info seems wrong/incomplete
32026-06-07 12:41closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183778796 ; closing.
5318728 (iD)12026-05-31 06:18openedvectorial8192todo/issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/89595505 , etc. descriptive name
22026-06-07 12:27closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183778116 ; closing.
5324843 (iD)12026-06-03 14:31openedvectorial8192todo: physical separation along median (check Mapillary)
22026-06-07 12:16closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183777664 ; closing.
5239739 (iD)12026-04-08 01:24openedTommy Lo"315A" OSM snapshot date: 2026-02-16T20:35:12Z POI has no name POI types: highway-elevator #organicmaps android 2026.03.11-12-Google
22026-04-27 17:42commentedvectorial8192Seems like elevator reference number. Deferred survey recommended. Unsubscribing.
32026-06-03 10:54commentedkingkingHKBy survey, should actually be 315B.
42026-06-06 12:40closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183736553 ; closing.
5239740 (iD)12026-04-08 01:26openedTommy Lo"102A" OSM snapshot date: 2026-02-16T20:35:12Z POI has no name POI types: wheelchair-yes highway-elevator #organicmaps android 2026.03.11-12-Google
22026-04-27 17:42commentedvectorial8192Seems like elevator reference number. Deferred survey recommended. Unsubscribing.
32026-06-03 10:55commentedkingkingHKBy survey, indeed.
42026-06-06 12:37closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183736432 ; closing.
5276753 (iD)12026-05-03 08:25openedno u turn from V City to Tuen Mun Park #OsmAnd
22026-05-03 16:44commentedvectorial8192Believable. Should clarify directions.
32026-05-04 13:05commentedkingkingHKGoogle streetview does not show any no u-turn signs. Survey recommended.
42026-05-04 18:37commentedvectorial8192Google Street View is most probably unusable for OSM. Also, https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=22.395865984836234&lng=113.97423979631367&z=16.601495464296814&pKey=820288731911992&focus=photo&x=0.49481272368082974&y=0.7102780052402858&zoom=1.2229014414427262
52026-05-05 03:04commentedkingkingHKYeah, why do you think I recommended a survey? I thought this note was about u-turning from Yan Ching Street eastbound to westbound, because u-turning from Heung Sze Wui Road northbound to southbound is already mapped: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7239851
62026-05-05 09:12commentedvectorial8192The note is poorly worded, but I believe it tries to refer to https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7239851 . Among the 3 parts, I take "u turn" and "Tuen Mun Park" to construct a consistent info piece. Then, regardless of whether a survey is planned or not, this https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182239427 must always be correct. I intend ...
72026-05-05 10:30commentedkingkingHKI fail to see why the quoted changeset "must always be" correct. If you fail to provide a source I will just revert the changeset for being groundless guesswork.
82026-05-05 16:56commentedvectorial8192You can try, but the changeset is very intuitive and trivial.
92026-05-05 17:00commentedvectorial8192To clarify, among all the kinds of "guesswork" that you may want to guard against, this is the kind of changeset that is a direct consequence of how some of us chose to map the junction in the past. Normally / by default / compared to "normal" I-shape mapping, that Y-shape section is not u-turn-able.
102026-05-06 03:11commentedkingkingHKCalling everything "trivial" does not make your argument any stronger. (proof by intimidation?) Like, how do you know Yan Ching Street has a double white line and not a dashed line?
112026-05-07 13:06commentedvectorial8192Details of a (mathematical) proof may be skipped when they are trivial or not directly relevant, the details which may then be left as an exercise to the reader. No intimidation involved. I have no reason to care about the double-line / dash-line thing, because while it's a valid concern, it's never appropriate to u-turn immediately after exiting ...
122026-05-07 14:05commentedkingkingHKI'm gonna need a source for "it's never appropriate to u-turn immediately after exiting a junction." My feeling is that, usually people who keep omitting proofs for being trivial either don't have a proof, are too lazy to write one, or just want to mess with people. Imo just bad form; what is obvious to the writer is not necessarily obvious to the...
132026-05-07 17:20commentedKovoschiz@vectorial8192 There's no such law. It's only when you obstruct others. If it's really never acceptable, it should be a default to be treated by applications, not added explicitly in OSM.
142026-05-07 17:22commentedKovoschizApplications should be able to penalize these heavily. There's no need to do this.
152026-05-09 13:43commentedvectorial8192This is going nowhere. You both try to push the ball to software side. Software side can then try to push the ball back to data side (here) by claiming "it's too risky to decide things in absence of actual data". Someone has to do it; I choose data side. Honestly, what's the actual problem with that changeset other than "this doesn't fit our philo...
162026-05-09 13:47commentedvectorial8192I can say more about the underlying theme of "undecidability", but seeing this is just an OSM note, I caution to say, maybe the changeset is all that we need, and no survey is actually needed.
172026-05-09 14:21commentedkingkingHKYou are completely missing my point. I am trying to point out that "u-turn right after junction" is not necessarily inappropriate, and instead is just a "legit u-turn that's exactly at this extreme angle". The problem with that changeset is that you seemingly pulled it out of your arse. And, I have already pointed out that I dispute the existence ...
182026-05-10 19:46commentedKovoschiz@vectorial8192 It seems the misunderstanding is from using the wrong reason. The correct logic here is this is a fake "y" caused by the road changing between divided and undivided in this intersection. The "Y" is inside the intersection. There's no "exiting a junction" as I got confused by your wording.
192026-05-10 19:55commentedKovoschizBut actually I myself have visited here recently. There's no u-turn ban sign for Yan Cheung St eastbound. So you are wrong in fact. You need to set it up so that it only restricts Heung Sze Wui Rd northbound. However in general, it would be a good theoretical question whether u-turn is allowed around a far-side island when the intersection prohibit...
202026-05-10 19:59commentedKovoschizTo summarize, the other possible misunderstanding on the problem is you have mistakenly set it up to wrongly restrict Yan Ching St. Or quite the opposite, you need to use `implicit=yes` to show this is about the u-turn already allowed via Heung Sze Wui Rd southbound.
212026-05-10 20:06commentedKovoschizOr actually this is illegal because it is a straight-ahead movement, and it's still inside the intersection. In any case, we should use clearer arguments.
222026-05-10 20:19commentedKovoschizFor the sake of clarity, it's not illegal to turn right, move forward somewhat significantly, u-turn, and turn left, to go opposite direction on the original road. But this Y is ("correctly" drawn) inside the intersection.
232026-05-10 20:27commentedKovoschizIf you explain "This is to prevent a u-turn via the right-turn" and "Yan Ching St can u-turn inside the "square box" on Heung Sze Wui Rd", and even better realize "the Y-shape is inside the intersection", there won't be such a long debate from "must always be correct" and "very intuitive and trivial". I can only realize what's happening here from ...
242026-05-12 10:04commentedvectorial8192(late resume) You (all) may or may not notice that I often subconsciously choose the wrong words to represent ideas that I am very sure to be correct. This is one of them. To strengthen/clarify my point, I can agree e.g. if cars turn into Yan Ching Street and then use Tak Chung Court to u-turn, or just directly u-turn at the Tak Chung Court juncti...
252026-05-12 14:24commentedkingkingHKOk, I think I am understanding the situation now. I mistakenly thought that there is a traffic island on Yan Ching Street (east side). If there were, then the Y-shape would be outside the junction, and u-turning along the Y would be equivalent to turning right, going forward a bit, u-turning, then waiting for the traffic signal again and turning l...
262026-06-03 10:58commentedkingkingHKBy survey, there are actually no u-turn restrictions for all directions of this junction.
272026-06-06 07:26closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183725357 ; closing.
5052159 (iD)12025-11-14 06:54openedkingkingHKI think https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/188837279 should be 132 kV and not 132 V?
22025-11-14 14:56commentedvectorial8192Also see https://osmlab.github.io/osm-deep-history/#/way/188837279 - no way any irl power cable runs with just 132V; now is not Victorian - past OSM history shows DWG intervention; possibly good faith but hit innocent changeset of fixing "132V" If we choose to trust changeset 171413551, then this is very obviously a 132kV power line.
32025-11-15 03:09commentedkingkingHKWell, the user who made changeset 171413551 (JacobPierce456) also changed a lot of 400 kV lines to 132 kV, even ones connecting to 400 kV substations, so I'm not sure if it's believable. See also https://openinframap.org/#10.68/22.3758/114.1147 for visualisation of power line and voltages.
42025-12-06 14:30commentedvectorial8192I am no electrical engineer, but I think 400 kV infra can be easily repurposed to become 132 kV infra. Unfortunately survey recommended to see what's going on; might be easier to check at Po Lam side.
52026-01-15 13:58commentedkingkingHKI vaguely remember reading somewhere (can't find it now) that CLP uses 400 kV while HK Electric uses 275 and 132 kV. This seems to largely correlate with existing osm data. Anyway, I tried to visit to poles to see if there are any signage indicating voltage, but failed. The Po Lam side is surrounded by construction works, while the Anderson side i...
62026-01-30 09:46commentedkingkingHKI went to https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1994601826 , and disappointingly there were no indication of voltage at all.
72026-02-01 10:10commentedvectorial8192OK, consider this "unsubstantiated" tin-hat thought: We see this https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/190728390 and we also see this https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/188837279 . Both are suspiciously and conveniently separated by Shun Lee Estate and Shun Chee Court. Could it be that the original HV overhead power line was split into two due to urba...
82026-02-01 11:33commentedkingkingHKAgree with your thought. Old maps show the power line being constructed in the early 1970s, around the same time Shun Lee Estate was being developed. I also doubt a large voltage change is possible without some structures visible from aerial imagery. However, the west side was also changed from 400 kV to 132 kV by the same DWG-blocked user in the ...
92026-05-30 06:35commentedkingkingHKSomeone on the OSM World Discord server said it was 132 kV, judging by the number of insulators.
102026-06-05 14:25closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183698815 ; closing.
5324037 (iD)12026-06-02 23:47openedCheung Tung Estate Bus Terminus https://www.districtcouncils.gov.hk/island/doc/2024_2027/en/committee_meetings_doc/TTC/31505/TTC_2026_9_EN.pdf
22026-06-04 11:10closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183639194 ; closing.
5240345 (iD)12026-04-08 11:58openedvectorial8192todo/issue: Where are the station exits?
22026-06-02 17:27closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183557235 ; closing.
5034361 (iD)12025-11-02 14:20openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22026-06-02 14:04commentedvectorial8192By survey, this is a poorly-mapped single-purpose facility.
32026-06-02 14:10closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183548943 ; closing.
5322545 (iD)12026-06-02 02:26openedTung Chung East 21st Century Business Hub (aka Tung Chung East Business Hub) https://www.som.com/news/tung-chung-groundbreaking/
22026-06-02 12:28closedvectorial8192Unfortunately, this is only a descriptive name. As per usual real estate procedure, the real name is revealed very late into the construction work, basically right before completion. Nothing to do here. Closing.
5322199 (iD)12026-06-01 18:46opened2
22026-06-02 01:59closedvectorial8192Meaning is unclear; closing.
5322197 (iD)12026-06-01 18:45opened1
22026-06-02 01:59closedvectorial8192Meaning is unclear; closing.
5312241 (iD)12026-05-27 09:23openedvectorial8192todo/issue: status?
22026-05-27 09:24commentedvectorial8192What is the status of this T2 concourse?
32026-05-27 10:29closedkingkingHKUnder constrution. Read the news.
42026-05-27 11:01reopenedvectorial8192
52026-05-27 11:03commentedvectorial8192Bad move to instant-close this. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/775198090 - building under construction - already opened on "2026/03/01" I rechecked the news eg https://www.hk01.com/%E6%97%85%E9%81%8A/60270075/%E6%A9%9F%E5%A0%B4%E4%BA%8C%E8%99%9F%E5%AE%A2%E9%81%8B%E5%A4%A7%E6%A8%93%E6%87%B6%E4%BA%BA%E5%8C%85-t2%E5%8F%AF%E7%9B%B4%E6%8E%A5%E5%87...
62026-05-27 12:23commentedkingkingHKThen, you should have made it clear that this note is for the `opening_date` problem. Bad move to imply the under construction status is wrong, while not mentioning at all the issue with `opening_date`.
72026-05-27 12:24commentedkingkingHKI mean, take a look, the `opening_date=` was added by a new user with a history of bad/wrong edits. It should be extremely obvious what is happening here. Just do it.
82026-05-27 14:49commentedvectorial8192Again, if I had the time to fully explore the situation, I would not make this note and would have just made a new changeset, as per my usual "just do it" call for action. You must at least acknowledge that "problem discovery" is iterative. At first post, I was not fully aware of the concourse situation, and was planning a detailed look later, whi...
92026-05-27 14:54commentedvectorial8192aka this pipeline: - could a problem ever exist here? (by experience or by semi-regular checking or by rotation); this is referring to possibility, and may generate false positives. - looking at the actual data, does a problem exist here? (self-think the tags) - how is "this" a problem? (check the specs) - can we explain this problem? (e.g. new us...
102026-05-27 15:00commentedvectorial8192A good timing for "semi-regular rechecking" is when some construction completes, and then we can check the "adjacent" constructions or existing features to see if the construction is completed wholly or partially. The best rechecking is done by having absolutely no pre-knowledge of the irl situation.
112026-05-28 14:10commentedkingkingHKI must reiterate that osm is not your personal notebook. All notes must thus be assumed to be complete and ****accurate****. You initially only said "status", so the only possible interpretation is that you are solely complaining about the osm tagging of the status of the concourse, but osm is tagging it as under construction, matching reality, th...
122026-05-30 16:13commentedvectorial8192Return to sender. If you and I both have not enough time for further investigation, then best to **not do anything**, such as: don't instant-close the note. For example, look at the many notes that I have commented in the past, and then left for later and still not closed yet. So far I have never viewed OSM notes as my personal notebook. All that ...
132026-05-31 14:26closedkingkingHKOk we have gone wayyy too off-topic. Discussion on proper use of notes and better communication is better done elsewhere (e.g. Discord DM). The `opening_date=` issue is fixed with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183451330 ; closing.
5146803 (iD)12026-01-29 09:24openedvectorial8192Duplicate funicular station "Garden Road". What is the standard for mapping funicular stations?
22026-01-29 12:17commentedkingkingHKI think the station was moved recently?
32026-01-29 13:03commentedvectorial8192Not sure if "moved" is the correct word. It be like this: For a long time the facility and the tram stop is co-located at https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/636324517 . Then, afaik around 2020, the tram was closed for a major upgrade, which involved majorly extending the train formation for increased capacity. They found out the historic facility ...
42026-01-30 03:12commentedkingkingHKThen, sounds like this stop has simply expanded, and the platform moved.
52026-02-09 14:14commentedvectorial8192Upon further review, I am half-unsure how to deal with this. It seems the structures on both ends are tagged as "station" while midway locations are simply marked as "request stops"?
62026-02-09 14:21commentedkingkingHKBut the midway stations really are request stops though. I don't see the problem, or how it relates to this note.
72026-02-10 07:03commentedKovoschizHaving 2 `=station` is obviously wrong. `railway=stop` should be used on the `railway=` track. The polygon should be enlarged as `area:railway=station` , and a `railway=station` point recreated.
82026-05-25 12:14commentedkingkingHKPlease see if https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183154394 works.
92026-05-30 12:08commentedvectorial8192Late resume; several days have passed. Right now I see 2x Garden Road railway stations on the default renderer. The stopping position mapping seems right (I don't know how that works). The changeset almost got it right. I forgot where I read this, but basically, if we have an area for the feature, then we don't need a node for it. e.g. if we have ...
102026-05-30 12:12closedkingkingHKI vaguely remember a similar discussion about MTR stations, and I think the conclusion is that railway stations can stay as
112026-05-30 12:12reopenedkingkingHK
122026-05-30 12:13commentedkingkingHKSorry misclick. ...and I think the conclusion is that railway stations can stay as a node.
132026-05-30 12:16commentedkingkingHKAnyway, adopted Kovoschiz's suggestion of `area:railway=station`. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183397689
142026-05-31 11:15closedvectorial8192Now it works. There is now explicitly a single railway station node alongside a single station area. (I am essentially using the default renderer for validation, but eyyy.) But it does seem like tradition to keep railway stations as single nodes. Thanks for the help. Me being generally uninvolved in public transport mapping has made progress slow....
5179032 (iD)12026-02-24 02:40openedLearning Habitat Kindergarten (PSLP)
22026-05-31 10:39closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183436619 ; closing.
5091914 (iD)12025-12-15 06:57openedvectorial8192todo: bus stop placeholders, etc.?
22025-12-25 13:52commentedkingkingHKSomeone else dealt with the bus stops in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/176007230 , but I guess we can also reroute the bus relations.
32025-12-25 14:33commentedvectorial8192Community guides suggest doing it in JOSM, not in iD editor. I will leave this to the public transport mappers.
42026-05-31 09:44commentedvectorial8192Recheck: So far OSM only has CTB 793 and KMB 298E, so we will only check them. Unmapped relations give to general stream. Common issue is that the relations don't use the correct refuge island road. This seems like an omission mistake, but should only require minor work to fix.
52026-05-31 09:51closedvectorial8192Bus paths fixed via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183434646 ; general issues (e.g. unmapped relation, outdated details, etc) give to general stream. Closing.
5036094 (iD)12025-11-03 12:42openedkingkingHKFamily Medicine Clinic somewhere around here supposedly, but unclear how it is affected by the redevelopment works.
22025-11-16 11:04commentedvectorial8192I went there recently, and saw it's in the old building https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429468747 I would guess it's gonna be relocated into Phase 2 later, so we may choose to ignore this for now.
32026-01-02 22:00closedbpaz709394
42026-01-03 02:40reopenedkingkingHK
52026-01-03 02:40commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
62026-05-19 17:52commentedvectorial8192Upon website review ( https://www32.ha.org.hk/capitalworksprojects/tc/Project/10years/Kwong-Wah-Hospital/Introduction.html ), the Phase 2 reconstruction is scheduled to complete in 2029. In retrospect, not the best move to give this note to the future, because the future is too far away. Let's redo this.
72026-05-31 09:09closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183432974 ; closing.
5309379 (iD)12026-05-25 13:54openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22026-05-25 14:12commentedkingkingHKWhat's the purpose of closing a note only to reopen an identical one a few meters away? (Tbf one could blame me for still not mapping it months after surveying...)
32026-05-30 14:22commentedvectorial8192At least we are making sure we know the FMC is at a separate building not affected by the reconstruction.
42026-05-31 04:54commentedkingkingHKFine, although I still disagree, this issue is so trivial and nonconsequential I don't even want to spend my energy debating, so whatever.
5315594 (iD)12026-05-29 08:21openedvectorial8192todo/issue: fuel station duplicate mapping
22026-05-30 18:16closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183412578 ; closing.
5296579 (iD)12026-05-17 06:46openedkingkingHKtodo: bridge has bollard separation; draw as two ways
22026-05-22 15:06commentedvectorial8192This is extra easy because no bus relations are directly involved.
32026-05-22 15:31commentedvectorial8192Or not. The bollards (Mapillary) extend towards the non-bridge section.
42026-05-22 16:34commentedvectorial8192We will start with the actual separation itself https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183032086
52026-05-23 03:57commentedkingkingHK> The bollards extend towards the non-bridge section. Are you talking about the east side or west side?
62026-05-25 09:47commentedvectorial8192Primarily the west side. It ends on the concrete platform which then intersects with Fat Kwong Street bus relations. Gotta do it by parts; I admit the task size estimation was wrong, but we will continue doing this. Still, I can notice the east side it ends right as the bridge section ends, but for traffic island leniency the changeset just contin...
72026-05-25 09:50commentedkingkingHKLgtm now, after https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183136566 ?
82026-05-29 09:43commentedkingkingHKLgtm; propose closing.
92026-05-30 16:36commentedvectorial8192I couldn't rotate back soon enough, my bad; though arguably Airport T2 has higher priority and importance than Hung Hom. I did intend to work on this, so I will pick this back up. Still, while the changeset is indeed lgtm, we still can't close this note yet because as I later discover while splitting the ways, this has two parts: the west side (by...
102026-05-30 16:48commentedvectorial8192East side done with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183409060
112026-05-30 16:49closedvectorial8192Now, truly, all is done. Therefore, closing.
5166716 (iD)12026-02-14 07:53openedthe radar station ball thing is being dismantled
22026-03-06 02:47commentedkingkingHKhttps://www.facebook.com/share/p/14Znxy9BWRS/ agrees.
32026-05-20 07:26commentedvectorial8192The technically correct way is to actually walk up the mountain and look at it, but I am thinking we can follow the Facebook post and look at it from somewhere far but appropriate (e.g. Choi Tak Estate), to confirm whether the removal is temporary or permanent. How does that sound?
42026-05-20 07:30commentedkingkingHKI have seen with my own eyes from multiple different far-away places that the ball is removed, and it is still gone as of Monday.
52026-05-25 13:33commentedvectorial8192According to local newspaper https://www.hk01.com/%E7%AA%81%E7%99%BC/240231/%E5%B1%B1%E7%AB%B9%E9%A4%98%E6%B3%A2-%E7%AD%86%E6%9E%B6%E5%B1%B1%E9%9B%B7%E9%81%94%E7%AB%99-%E6%B3%A2%E6%B3%A2-%E7%A9%BF%E7%AA%BF%E7%84%A1%E6%9C%89%E6%80%95-%E5%8E%9F%E4%BE%86%E9%97%9C%E4%B8%89%E8%B7%91%E4%BA%8B The radar ball is scheduled for removal anyway. This is beli...
62026-05-25 13:47closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183159361 ; closing.
72026-05-25 13:52reopenedkingkingHK
82026-05-25 13:52commentedkingkingHKIsn't this note about the western radar? Your quoted article and changeset concerns only the eastern one.
92026-05-25 15:11commentedvectorial8192OK, let's take a closer look to clear it up. There are 2 radar stations ("radar balls"). Aerial imagery, the east ball is the larger one, and the west ball is the smaller one. Also, aerial imagery, the west ball sits on top of a square platform / pad. Then > 民航處發言人回覆查詢時指,為配合日後機場三跑道系統工程放置�...
102026-05-25 15:14commentedvectorial8192By coincidence, the quoted FB post still agrees that the east ball is indeed removed. There is a hilltop pad which looks like the pad for the west ball, and there is no radar ball on this pad.
112026-05-29 09:36commentedkingkingHKWhat I mean is, the west ball is obviously removed. One should update that before closing this note.
122026-05-30 12:15commentedvectorial8192I see. This is my mistake, should have checked more onto this. Usually what happens is that OSM has the latest info, and then a note comes in describing something new has happened. In this case however, OSM has outdated info, and then a note comes in describing the latest situation. The fault / confusion stems from believing OSM has reasonably late...
132026-05-30 12:17commentedvectorial8192aka note comes in saying "west ball was removed" but I misinterpreted it as "east ball was removed" because I was interpreting it as "only a single ball was removed".
142026-05-30 12:20commentedkingkingHKOne can see from 2025 Esri imagery that the eastern ball has been removed. But it's fine, we all make silly mistake sometimes; maybe you just didn't see the Esri imagery.
152026-05-30 12:35commentedvectorial8192Wait the wording is getting more confusing. To clarify, I did see from ESRI imagery that the east ball was removed, but the base still remains, which I then looked at ESRI Clarity for calibration and made the first changeset. As of writing, all 4 imagery still shows the west ball; this could be the source of confusion. We may only infer by combin...
162026-05-30 12:39closedvectorial8192Should be for real this time. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183398579 ; closing.
4015896 (iD)12023-12-05 13:25openedIan HoThe pylons are under the project "Removal of 132kV Overhead Line and Pylons for P-Line". Project started 2022. Total 24 pylons will be removed.
22025-09-25 11:05commentedHenryEKwhat change is wanted here then
32025-09-25 12:32commentedkingkingHKRelevant note: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4015897 It seems like the latest state has been somewhat reflected afterhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/150035446 etc, I guess still can review the latest state of the towers e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/448005785
42025-10-28 16:00commentedvectorial8192Also see note https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4015897
52025-12-10 03:30commentedvectorial8192I see the pylon nodes are deleted from OSM some time ago.
62025-12-10 03:33commentedkingkingHKYeah, but there are still some left e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/448005785 , would need to check if they still exist to decide the next steps.
72026-01-03 05:57closedbpaz709394
82026-01-03 06:05reopenedvectorial8192
92026-01-03 09:33commentedkmpoppeThis note was part of a mass-closure without any comment. It was subsequently reopened, as it's unclear if the problem mentioned still persists.
102026-05-30 12:28closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183398143 ; closing.
4015897 (iD)12023-12-05 13:26openedIan HoThe pylons are under the project "Removal of 132kV Overhead Line and Pylons for P-Line". Project started 2022. Total 24 pylons will be removed.
22024-02-07 04:24commentedHighlandPaddyHKConfirmed, I went to visit Osborn's Cairn and the pylon was gone!
32024-11-02 13:05commentedvectorial8192I guess this means the towers are now physically gone? Will need to update OSM data to reflect this (eg there is still a tower area https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/448005785 )
42024-11-02 15:16commentedIan HoWhen I add the notes, the removal project was still work in progress. Some of the pylons were not removed yet. I did visit 1 or 2 removed pylon sites. Only the base concrete structure (no more than 1 meter high) remains after removal. So I think when the project is complete, we can update OSM.
52025-10-28 16:01commentedvectorial8192Also see note https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4015896 It seems the towers are now gone?
62025-10-29 03:14commentedkingkingHKSee also https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/173778439 But I guess can still verify if https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/448005785 exists?
72026-01-03 06:01closedbpaz709394
82026-01-03 06:04reopenedvectorial8192
92026-01-03 09:33commentedkmpoppeThis note was part of a mass-closure without any comment. It was subsequently reopened, as it's unclear if the problem mentioned still persists.
102026-03-12 12:01commentedkingkingHKBy survey, the quoted way https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/448005785 no longer exists, and there are nothing remaining other than the concrete bases.
112026-05-30 12:28closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183398143 ; closing.
5180357 (iD)12026-02-25 03:38openedkingkingHKtodo: station is too small
22026-03-31 17:06commentedvectorial8192for the observers, iirc a question was asked at Discord about "station area" vs "(many) station building parts" for underground MTR stations.
32026-04-01 03:02commentedkingkingHKIndeed, I was trying to clarify on mapping underground `building=train_station`, but somehow that conversation ended midway. My plan for now is to buy some better indoor surveying equipment, indoor map a few shopping centres to gain some indoor mapping experiences, then deal with the various poorly drawn MTR stations.
42026-04-01 04:56commentedvectorial8192I can't stop you, but face value looking at "better indoor surveying equipment" that does not sound like a good idea. Indoor surveying is either beacon-based (if exists, MTR likely won't expose the beacon implementation details) or rangefinder-based (potentially expensive equipment; LIDAR, laser, or what technology?) There's also a concern that th...
52026-04-01 07:40commentedKovoschizMalls can be guessed from the exterior, and interior layout. Stations can be guessed from platforms, exits, and shafts or buildings. Doesn't need equipment to get a sketch.
62026-04-01 07:52commentedKovoschizThere are motion-based measuring devices that creates drawings by walking https://www.moasure.com/ iPhone "Lidar" ToF camera might be the most common consumer device. Don't know how's the apps on Android. But they aren't cost-effective vs an actual lidar. Off-topic: Kwun Tong Line cut-and-cover stations may be exposed from aerial imagery (out-of-c...
72026-04-12 12:57commentedvectorial8192If no effective conclusion, then at least we can fix the station building size.
82026-04-12 13:04commentedkingkingHK"station building size" depends on "what is a station" building, which I still don't know. My plan for now is probably to indoor survey the station, make some drawings and send to Discord for someone else (might eventually be me) to deal with it.
92026-04-13 14:54commentedvectorial8192Well imo the size of the platform is the minimum possible size of the station building; ideally this is true no matter what definition you may be using. What may seem like "unused" underground space could then be used as MTR internal-use office. It still checks out.
102026-05-25 11:23commentedvectorial8192Tsuen Wan Line uses the standard 8-car MTR train, which has total length of approx 180m. Station expanded to 180m length with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183151725 . Seems nothing more to do; potentially closeable.
112026-05-25 11:42commentedkingkingHKMy original plan is to use this note to track my indoor mapping, which I haven't done yet. But your changeset is fine too. I have got a little bit of experience in indoor mapping after surveying Tin Wing LRT; I can try doing the same here soon.
122026-05-30 11:59commentedvectorial8192OK, leaving open, but imo doesn't seem too interesting here; e.g., road crossing need not enter the MTR station. Unsubscribing.
2218616 (iD)12020-06-05 07:45openedkleeahPublic transport Routing at Lam Tin to be added
22026-01-02 22:01closedbpaz709394
32026-01-03 02:41reopenedkingkingHK
42026-01-03 02:41commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
52026-03-13 04:41closedJosephfunny202603131237_
62026-03-13 06:03reopenedkingkingHK
72026-03-13 06:03commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
82026-05-30 08:40commentedkingkingHKThe following buses call at Lam Tin (terminus, not road side): 1. KMB 14 (China Ferry Terminal → Lei Yue Mun Estate) 2. KMB 14B (Ngau Tau Kok → Lam Tin (Kwong Tin Estate)) 3. KMB 14B (Lok Wah → Lam Tin (Kwong Tin Estate)) 4. KMB 14H (Yau Tong ↺ Shun Lee) 5. KMB 14X (Shung Tak Wai ↺ Tsim Sha Tsui) 6. KMB 15X (Hung Hom Station → Lam Tin ...
92026-05-30 08:40commentedkingkingHK38. Cross-harbour Bus 601P (Po Tat → Wing Kut Street) 39. Cross-harbour Bus 601P (Hiu Lai Court → Wing Kut Street) 40. Cross-harbour Bus 606 (Choi Wan (Fung Shing Street) → Siu Sai Wan (Island Resort)) 41. Cross-harbour Bus 606 (Choi Wan (Fung Shing Street) → Siu Sai Wan (Island Resort) (via Choi Ha Road)) 42. Cross-harbour Bus 606A (Choi W...
5164303 (iD)12026-02-12 07:23openedvectorial8192substation=substation seems redundant
22026-03-05 12:37commentedkingkingHKTaginfo says only 608 uses of `substation=substation` worldwide with no major data consumer using it; shouldn't have any effects if we just remove it.
32026-03-12 08:17commentedvectorial8192Upon review via Overpass Turbo, there's a lot of this usage in Hong Kong. I may be onto something big: are all those usages redundant? How does this interact with e.g. OpenInfraMap?
42026-03-12 12:00commentedkingkingHKI wouldn't call 86 a lot. Also, most of them were added by the same few users (Xavier Fung and tommydragon). Not indicative of anything imo.
52026-03-16 14:16commentedvectorial8192Can observe/confirm this tag is picked up by OpenInfraMap for display purposes. Hmmm.
62026-04-05 07:26commentedkingkingHK...I can't notice how OpenInfraMap renders this differently than any other substations. May you provide more info?
72026-04-11 12:19commentedvectorial8192I have not really determined whether this tag positively influences rendering, or that OpenInfraMap already renders this feature due to power=substation.
82026-04-11 13:34commentedkingkingHKSeeing that it renders identically with other `power=substation`s, I'd say it does not influence render. I.e. useless tag.
92026-05-20 10:15commentedkingkingHKIf no further discussion I am inclined to simply remove all `substation=substation`.
102026-05-21 12:22commentedvectorial8192I have nothing to add. This was only discovered while I was looking in detail at the railway.
112026-05-29 12:18closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183352652 ; closing.
2758068 (iD)12021-07-17 06:16openedWhcohi乾山大斜坡
22022-03-08 08:21closedchanfai
32022-03-08 08:21reopenedchanfai
42022-04-13 07:12closedPoHK
52022-04-14 09:24reopenedKovoschiz
62022-04-14 09:25commentedKovoschizNot yet added? Please don't resolve without comments if not yet worked on.
72026-05-01 16:13commentedvectorial8192This area is inside the artillery range (I think they have daily practices?) so survey is generally recommended against; we should armchair this. Still, it seems the name in this note has some credibility e.g. nearby feature has similar name https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9517418060
82026-05-02 04:15commentedkingkingHKOut-of-copyright maps show a valley in this area; this is easily armchairrable, but choosing the correct osm tags may require some thoughts. Also iirc they don't practice during public holidays, so this is technically surveyable if someone wants to (I don't).
92026-05-29 11:54closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183351453 ; closing.
5077746 (iD)12025-12-03 18:04openedvectorial8192Rare data incompleteness: name:en of street https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/243663400 ?
22025-12-09 14:38commentedvectorial8192irl totally no signage, and yet osm history insists this street has name.
32025-12-10 12:34commentedkingkingHKCan be "informal name" / "loc_name", commonly used by people from that area but not officially recognise. However, this might be difficult to verify.
42026-03-14 14:07commentedkingkingHKCuriously, searching the name online returns absolutely no result, which shouldn't be the case for any name with actual use.
52026-05-20 10:16commentedkingkingHKI propose removing this name from osm for being unverifiable.
62026-05-29 09:51closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183345710 ; closing.
5025035 (iD)12025-10-27 13:48openedvectorial8192Sing Mun River has fixme, presumably about boat access. However, afaik, there are no legal restrictions about boat access.
22025-12-30 03:09commentedkingkingHKWell, if boats are not allowed, then https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/493816164 would not exist.
32025-12-30 03:22commentedvectorial8192Indeed. My vibe is that, the guy is misunderstanding "physical constraints" with "legal restrictions". Clearly the river cannot support e.g. yacht-boats with their high sails, but one may always try.
42026-01-28 13:38commentedvectorial8192Wait, fixme was raised by Kovoschiz; discussion needed.
52026-02-05 17:04commentedKovoschizSomeone added `boat=no` in Fo Tan, which seems a mistake https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/32559690 Originally it may have been `=drain` for being reclamation and channelized. That may not be considered accessible by default.
62026-03-05 12:39commentedkingkingHKWell, at least for Shing Mun River, `boat=no` should be wrong. We can remove it, alongside with the `fixme=`.
72026-05-24 14:25commentedkingkingHKI will remove `boat=no` and `fixme=` from Shing Mun River if no further comments.
82026-05-25 10:41commentedvectorial8192No comments from me. I will only add that at extremely low tides it does become physically boat=no because this just transforms into a ditch (this is technically / structurally an extra wide ditch), but this doesn't happen every year and so the info does not sound like good candidate to be put into OSM as if regular occurrence.
92026-05-29 09:43closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183345102 ; closing.
5313162 (iD)12026-05-27 23:07openedIulian ArcușUnable to answer "Do the trees here have needles or leaves?" – Tree Row – https://osm.org/way/780937954 via StreetComplete 63.1: Option is pines or leaves. They are palm trees
22026-05-28 02:48commentedkingkingHKPalm trees are broadleaved, no?
32026-05-28 17:00commentedKovoschizYes, but user wants to add somewhere `=palm` ( most rigorously `taxon:en=` + `taxon:family:en=`
42026-05-29 03:15closedIulian ArcușJust doing the street complete level of detail so broadleaf is the answer I was looking for.
5312369 (iD)12026-05-27 10:57openedvectorial8192issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1322030181 name:zh of building? or no name?
22026-05-27 12:27commentedkingkingHKWebsite of one of the tenants https://www.avseco.com.hk/zh-hk/contact : "機場行政大樓2座"
32026-05-27 15:04closedvectorial8192Thanks for the finding. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183261119 ; closing.
5310630 (iD)12026-05-26 07:59openedFent ThanakonHOTEL
22026-05-27 08:58closedKovoschizosm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise used...
5311188 (iD)12026-05-26 13:24openedIulian ArcușUnable to answer "What kind of artwork is this?" – Artwork – https://osm.org/node/5018345422 via StreetComplete 63.1: No visible artwork
5311184 (iD)12026-05-26 13:19openedIulian ArcușArea needs remapping. Public toilets built and plants have been modified via StreetComplete 63.1 Attached photo(s): https://streetcomplete.app/p/347192.jpg
5310646 (iD)12026-05-26 08:08openedPan PerníčekForwarding anonymous report from #mapycom user, please verify: Path doesn't exist.
5078742 (iD)12025-12-04 14:21openedkingkingHKname:zh of park? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/576655997
22025-12-11 01:49commentedHenryEK赫蘭道/淺水灣道花園 https://www.map.gov.hk/gm/s/S/1810025496
32025-12-11 02:23commentedkingkingHK@HenryEK are you sure it can be used in terms of copyright?
42025-12-11 18:11commentedKovoschizNo https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licensing_Working_Group/Minutes/2024-05-13#Ticket#2024040710000103_–_Database_for_importing_license_question
52026-05-25 14:27closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183161334 ; closing.
5034406 (iD)12025-11-02 14:39openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic (what should be happening here?)
22026-01-25 03:49commentedkingkingHKProbably at https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1202258838 ?
32026-01-25 14:03commentedkingkingHKIndeed it is.
42026-05-25 13:55closedvectorial8192Redirect https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5309379
5106613 (iD)12025-12-27 10:41openedvectorial8192todo: this does not look like a mini-roundabout; can also irl-review nearby features.
22025-12-27 12:26commentedkingkingHK> this does not look like a mini-roundabout Agreed, there's even a physical island. > can also irl-review nearby features Such as? I see the features in this area seem fine, at least.
32025-12-27 14:42commentedvectorial8192For example: Look at ESRI imagery. It shows a west-side construction yard road into the Testing Institute. Does this still exist? The Married Quarters bus stop seems like a bus bay. Is this true? Construction is largely finished, which means the jersey barriers (aerial imagery) should e gone. What replaces them (if exists)? etc.
42026-02-25 10:16commentedkingkingHKPlease see if https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179028772 works.
52026-02-25 16:16commentedvectorial8192At first glance: - changeset too large - can still improve (I also have data)
62026-02-25 16:24commentedvectorial8192ok, to clarify, it's natural to have an extra large changeset when we split ways, but I personally would not do Wan Po Road in the same changeset as the Hospital.
72026-02-26 02:59commentedkingkingHKI did Wan Po Road in the same changeset as it's too small (imo) to be its own changeset, is close to the hospital, and I surveyed them in the same trip. I also still have data not mapped, but considering how distorted, blurry, and outdated the aerial imagery in this area is, I have no confidence I can put the features in the correct place so I wou...
82026-02-28 12:03commentedvectorial8192Improved with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179167704 : - added path hints - added terrain hints - turn restrictions - general beautification - etc I still have some other data of this area, but those are unrelated and can partially be armchaired. You may continue.
92026-03-13 13:31commentedkingkingHKI don't have anything to continue besides mapping/updating the related bus relations, which is already handled with https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5091914 . We can close this note if you have nothing more to map.
102026-05-25 12:06closedkingkingHKNothing to do here, closing.
5292869 (iD)12026-05-15 02:07openedvectorial8192issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6705014448 suspicious traffic signal
22026-05-15 03:44commentedkingkingHKShould be referring to the Shau Kei Wan Road / Chai Wan Road / Aldrich Street junction. Same poor import that we dealt with before.
32026-05-25 11:57closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183153560 ; closing.
4978548 (iD)12025-09-25 09:45openedCypp0847the bridge area got divided up into various pieces as to differentiate opening dates and features. this made the rendering of name is quite clumsy over here. could we try and hide some of the names?
22025-09-25 12:40commentedkingkingHKThis is more of a renderer discussion rather than an osm one, isn't it?
32025-09-26 06:56commentedKovoschizFor implementation, there's `bridge:part=` proposed long ago without much attention, only mass added to a hundred. The fundamental conceptual problem here is how to define a `man_made=bridge` for twin , long, and multi-stage `bridge=viaduct` , as the eastbound on the west is new far apart, and longer span.
42025-09-26 06:57commentedKovoschiz(`bridge:part=` is not a good format either, as `bridge=` isn't a feature, unlike `building=` )
52025-09-26 07:37commentedKovoschiz3. The `start_date=` is difficult to define. In OHM, the object's existing status is used. In OSM, often the oldest applicable is used.
62025-09-26 07:39commentedKovoschiz4. Minor note: I didn't bother to draw the whole IEC western `=viaduct` , so doing this is also a lazy hack
72025-09-26 07:40commentedKovoschiz5. `ref=` is another factor that needs to be considered to define a `man_made=bridge` , aside from `name=` and `start_date=` (etc)
82026-01-03 05:58closedbpaz709394
92026-01-03 06:04reopenedvectorial8192
102026-01-03 09:33commentedkmpoppeThis note was part of a mass-closure without any comment. It was subsequently reopened, as it's unclear if the problem mentioned still persists.
112026-05-16 09:42commentedkingkingHK@Kovoschiz does https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181152791 resolve this note?
122026-05-16 16:13commentedKovoschizNo, I didn't do anything on them, only `layer=`
132026-05-20 10:22commentedkingkingHKTbh I don't really understand what this note is asking for / what can be done to resolve this note.
142026-05-21 12:26commentedvectorial8192One way out is to start a discussion at Discord, to confirm the tagging method for individual bridge joint parts. Then, we will know how to tag these, and then apply the new tagging, and then finish. private guess it's probably gonna be many nameless parts linked up with a "IEC highway" relation.
152026-05-24 05:44commentedkingkingHKActually, IEC is the name of the road, not of the bridge, which is nameless. Perhaps we can just remove the `name=`, which solves the "clumsy rendering" issue this note is complaining about, then at the very least this note can be closed.
162026-05-24 08:38commentedKovoschizThat's a good question. But I thought IEC is effectively the de facto naming of the structure at the same time.
172026-05-24 14:26commentedkingkingHKCitation needed. If you ask 10 people what "IEC" is 11 of them will think of the road, not the bridge.
182026-05-25 03:18commentedKovoschizIt's effectively identical here though? If I ask what's that bridge, they will still answer IEC.
192026-05-25 03:24commentedKovoschizI'm thinking of West Kowloon Corridor, where there are Stage II, and Stage III (Stage IV is folded into Stage I Gascoigne Rd Flyover) East Kowloon Corridor was East Kowloon Way translated into "East Kowloon Elevated Road"
202026-05-25 03:27commentedKovoschizSo I didn't think it must have a bridge-related generic suffix. Cf although Fat Kwong St Flyover is gazetted as the street's extension, it's basically carrying Fat Kwong St.
212026-05-25 06:08commentedkingkingHKLooking at named `man_made=bridge` in Hong Kong it appears that (almost) all the names are names of the bridge, with a bridge suffix, including bridge names that are not as well known as the road, where if you ask what's that bridge people are likely to answer the road name.
222026-05-25 10:59commentedvectorial8192Clarifying names for @kingkingHK Some roads are not gazetted and currently hold descriptive names e.g. "Wuhu Street underpass" but then we can find ancient (government) documents using those names. This doesn't fully fit the OSM "map what can be seen on the ground" principle but we can't dispute the official informal endorsement. Re bridge/road n...
232026-05-25 11:02commentedvectorial8192Or maybe I have misunderstood the bridge joint tagging.
5087537 (iD)12025-12-11 17:07openedvectorial8192todo: Some clinics have generic names, which may be improved.
22026-05-25 09:28closedkingkingHKIt turns out, the signs irl include "Chai Wan" in the name. Unless you were looking at a sign that I somehow missed, or the sign changed in the last 5 months, I really don't know why you did it like that. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183146037 ; closing.
5065723 (iD)12025-11-24 08:25openedkingkingHKDoes this https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4349317190 actually exist?
22025-12-03 12:05commentedvectorial8192probably public light bus hail-and-ride
32025-12-03 12:31commentedkingkingHKSee also https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5065720 However, hail and ride is tagged with "hail_and_ride" role on the way in the light bus restriction, not with a bus stop node. Afaik `highway=bus_stop` should only be used when there's something physical there e.g. a pole.
42025-12-03 12:32commentedkingkingHK* So the intention of this note is to check if there's anything physical indicating a (mini)bus stop at this location
52026-02-23 09:49commentedkingkingHKNothing here.
62026-05-24 14:24closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183110736 ; closing.
5307805 (iD)12026-05-24 14:18openedKolaVenter1964House 213
5305499 (iD)12026-05-23 05:50openedvectorial8192issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6705233079 suspicious traffic signals
22026-05-23 06:08commentedkingkingHKSame poor import. Imo just delete it. (Side note: why wasn't that undiscussed import reverted??? I think @Kovoschiz was there when it happened)
32026-05-23 16:22commentedKovoschizThis is only outdated. There was an intersection here where Wui Man Rd is connected with Austin Rd.
42026-05-24 14:06closedkingkingHKWasn't that intersection already closed at the time that import happened (2019)? Anyhow, it just shows how low-quality it was. Seeing the intersection has been removed, just delete it. Resolved viahttps://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183109836 ; closing.
5257852 (iD)12026-04-20 06:19openedkingkingHKtodo: bus stop vs stop position
22026-05-24 14:02closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183109753 ; closing.
5254676 (iD)12026-04-18 03:43openedEthanCKThe Commercial Press shouldn’t be here, it is already on this map but at a nearby location (near the junction of Sugar Street and Yee Woo Street) , so maybe delete this
22026-04-19 04:21commentedkingkingHKhttps://www.supretail.com.hk/sup-shop-address/3 agrees
32026-05-24 14:00closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183109667 ; closing.
5297353 (iD)12026-05-17 13:56openedvectorial8192https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7186040 Validator warning: unusual value of distance ----------- Also, this bus relation is very broken.
22026-05-23 14:23commentedkingkingHKActually I can't even reproduce that value for distance... Anyway, am cooking at JOSM. Will upload changeset tomorrow. Please don't touch the any bus relations or roads in this area in the mean tie in order to prevent a merge conflict.
32026-05-24 13:53closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183109341 ; closing.
5306342 (iD)12026-05-23 16:18openedHenryEKclp building of some kind probably substation
22026-05-24 06:13closedHenryEKsubstation - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1520394713 changeset - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183092671
4049857 (iD)12024-01-02 10:37openedPeter NewmanUnable to answer "How many cars can be charged here at the same time?" for https://osm.org/node/3494444748 via StreetComplete 55.1: Probably device rather than car charging
22024-03-05 09:35commentedvectorial8192Agree with the mobile phone charging type. However, there currently seems to have no global consensus on how to tag *mobile phone* charging stations.
32024-10-16 13:30commentedvectorial8192Update: it seems a new tag is available https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Ddevice_charging_station
42024-10-16 13:48commentedPeter NewmanI should clarify from my "probably" I'm not sure I actually eyeballed this specific unit to check it either way, just noted it was inside an airport so probably wasn't car charging. Although from your "agree" did you actually look at it then @vectorial8192
52024-10-16 16:59commentedvectorial8192I never physically looked at the irl situation, but "obviously" it is not EV charging Will have to leave this open until god knows when
62025-05-18 05:08closed楊展博
72025-05-18 10:49reopenedPeter Newman
82025-05-18 10:50commentedPeter NewmanHi @楊展博 could you be a bit clearer about why you've resolved the note. You don't seem to have touched the node. Is it actually for charging vehicles?
92025-05-18 11:10commentedvectorial8192Guy was/is recently around resolving notes with no explanation.
102026-04-19 14:24commentedkingkingHK"Common sense" should be a strong enough source to support that this is a phone charging and not EV. I think we can make progress on this note.
112026-05-23 12:37closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183066373 ; closing.
4917522 (iD)12025-08-19 04:02openedkingkingHKTraffic signals have been added to this junction.
22025-09-15 15:31commentedvectorial8192Node https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6705213882 exists for many years, but I suppose the quoted node has nothing to do with this new situation.
32025-10-08 14:36commentedvectorial8192Future reference https://www.cedd.gov.hk/tc/our-projects/major-projects/index-id-70.html
42026-01-22 13:48commentedkingkingHKYeah, traffic signals have been added, and it seems like https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6705213882 is removed.
52026-04-21 09:54commentedvectorial8192Can confirm, we do have this.
62026-05-23 12:24closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183065880 ; closing. (Note: bus relations will be migrated in a separate changeset)
5296588 (iD)12026-05-17 06:54openedkingkingHKtodo: bridge has bollard separation; draw as two ways
22026-05-23 08:44commentedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183056730 ; closing. (Note: bus relations will be migrated in a separate changeset)
32026-05-23 08:44closedkingkingHK
5302548 (iD)12026-05-21 03:57openedOur Centre
22026-05-21 09:00closedvectorial8192https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes > For example never create notes such as "I was here on Saturday" or "There was a crime at this location". > 例如,千萬不要創建諸如“我星期六來過這裡”或“這裡發生過犯罪事件”之類的筆記。 To share an OSM location, please see: 如需分享一個OSM的位置,請參�...
32026-05-21 09:16reopenedkingkingHK
42026-05-21 09:16closedkingkingHK@vectorial8192 I appreciate the attempt at communicating, but seeing this note was created by an anonymous user, you are practically talking to the void here.
52026-05-21 12:28reopenedvectorial8192
62026-05-21 12:31commentedvectorial8192I am following @Kovoschiz 's practice. Not fully appropriate to claim "void". One possible scenario is that an anon made this note, and then use the note URL to give to people. Then, either the same anon or the recipients will see this note *and the extra comments "that's not how you use notes"*, and hopefully habits will change. Normally this no...
72026-05-22 03:42commentedkingkingHKOk, understandable. Close this?
82026-05-22 07:22closedKovoschizIt's simply to close it with a comment. Not hoping for resposne.
5141141 (iD)12026-01-24 12:06openedkingkingHKtodo: this has been converted to a roundabout
22026-04-21 09:56commentedvectorial8192Aerial imagery has some hints of conversion work. Do you have more info on the specs of the roundabout, e.g. any slip roads for which directions?
32026-04-21 12:17commentedkingkingHKNo slip roads; just a simple one-lane roundabout. And yeah, I guess you noticed that I really don't resolve notes very often, even for some of the more trivial ones. I just have too many things to do, both irl and in osm. Also, another thing is that updating this to a roundabout would require changing the bus relations, but many in this area are b...
42026-04-22 06:03commentedvectorial8192Re "too many things", understandable. Re "change bus relation", my take is to limit the scope. If the relation is broken before we touch it, then we only need to ensure the part that we are editing (the segments at the roundabout) is not broken. We can have the generosity to also fix the entire relation (re "might as well") but again that's not a ...
52026-04-22 08:19commentedkingkingHKYeah, now I do see the problems with "confirm but no action". Actually nowadays I am reluctant to even do the "confirm" part by sending a useless message (e.g. "yes" "correct" "indeed there is a FMC here") to prevent bombarding your email inbox. But I can tell you that I have no WIP note-related changesets outside of HKI, so you don't need to worry...
62026-04-23 17:43commentedvectorial8192Coordination, splitting, experiences etc is best discussed e.g. in Discord. (Soon™)
72026-05-16 15:48commentedvectorial8192I have deduced a possible arrangement of the roundabout in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182749069 ; please see if it works. If it works, then the next step is to reroute the bus relations to use the roundabout and close this note. The old T-shape junction is kept because older imagery still describes them as such, to prevent accidental ...
82026-05-17 04:32commentedkingkingHKI completely forgot about this note. Sorry! Your sketch looks a bit different from my memory, but it's good enough. Still, from recent bus videos, it seems like quite a lot has changed since my last visit; we should probably either contact the video owner and ask for permission for using it in osm, or visit this place again ourselves. But topolog...
92026-05-17 13:41commentedvectorial8192Re irl changes, not too surprising considering the current trend/direction of developing Kam Tin. This can be done in the "general stream", so to speak. (It seems unlikely I will contact the bus video owners for this.)
102026-05-17 13:53commentedkingkingHKEventually after some thoughts I decided to deal with https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5296588 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4917522 first before transferring bus relations, as those two notes will also involve bus relations. Agree with your notion of "general stream". Whether bus video owners should be contacted really depends on wheth...
112026-05-17 13:58commentedvectorial8192Desync! Bus relations cleaned up with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182786155 ; all done. Holding open, but I think there is nothing more to do specifically for this junction, and this specific note is close-able.
122026-05-17 14:21commentedkingkingHKquoted changeset lgtm, but as I said I suspect the geometry of the roundabout is off, so imo can't close it yet. (Maybe I misunderstood what you meant with general stream)
132026-05-20 06:50commentedvectorial8192To clarify, "general stream" is another term/topic that I am self-coining to understand OSM. Basically, it's the "every day mapping". Casual user clicks at e.g. StreetComplete. New building; draw it and done. Position slightly off; move it and done. It may not be fully correct but for most purposes it is passable. eg the exact coordinates may be a...
142026-05-21 14:34commentedvectorial8192(Why do I feel like this has entered some sort of deadlock...) Basically, if @kingkingHK you can remember / provide the geometry in the short future, then nice, do add them and then we can really close this. If not, then not too bad because the as-of-writing geometry is OK, and future aerial imagery will show the roundabout anyway. This is located...
152026-05-22 02:44closedkingkingHKOk fine, I was mainly worried that we would really collectively forget about this, but if you say we won't then we can close this.
5295117 (iD)12026-05-16 12:34openedmissing mcdonald here #OsmAnd
22026-05-22 02:25closedHenryEKmcdonalds - https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13859365922 changeset -https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/183000852
5286470 (iD)12026-05-10 13:36openedvectorial8192todo/issue: review petrol station (confusing layering)
22026-05-10 13:41commentedkingkingHK> `layer=-1` Classic. iD users picking a random option in the warning box to make the validator shut up. Same as what the maproulette users did in March. I would just fix it, without further thinking.
32026-05-21 15:22closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182981837 ; closing.
5286471 (iD)12026-05-10 13:37openedvectorial8192todo/issue: review petrol station (duplicate mapping?)
22026-05-21 14:55closedvectorial8192Upon review, I read the graph/map wrong. Nothing to do here.
5270549 (iD)12026-04-29 03:58openedvbertola"Duplicate with no data" The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-04-04T03:36:32Z POI has no name POI types: amenity-restaurant #organicmaps android 2026.04.07-8-Google
22026-05-21 14:26closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182979226 ; closing.
5286291 (iD)12026-05-10 11:55openedvectorial8192todo/issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/813139621 "Feoso" is not a known fuel company; data mistake?
22026-05-17 08:50commentedHenryEKis feoso not a fuel company? i remember a building with their name near lai chi kok
32026-05-17 08:52commentedHenryEKsee https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/217283057 this station being feoso could be possible but il have to check some time later this week
42026-05-17 12:40commentedvectorial8192(We have more info at Discord) The main issue is that I somehow cannot confirm whether Feoso is legit; they seem to be exiting the market, but some irl features still refer to it, and the website is basically "now WIP; check back later". And very unusually, no Wiki article for this. We can look at the 5 fuel company websites to determine which on...
52026-05-21 14:12closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182978580 ; closing.
5286430 (iD)12026-05-10 13:15openedvectorial8192todo/issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/736802187 "Eco" is not a known fuel company; outdated info?
22026-05-10 13:30commentedkingkingHKI think, "eco" is referring to the dedicated LPG filling station? https://www.emsd.gov.hk/en/gas_safety/lpg_vehicle_scheme/auto_lpg_prices/index.html
32026-05-10 19:20commentedKovoschiz@vectorial8192 It's you don't know. They existed before. Exited the market. It's Towngas.
42026-05-10 19:21commentedKovoschiz@kingkingHK It's not an adjective "eco" for eco-friendly. It's a noun. `brand:en=Eco`
52026-05-17 12:27commentedvectorial8192Whatever happens, if this "Eco" company exited the market, then this "Eco" info is outdated and the fuel station should be updated with the info of the current operator/brand. This can be done by checking the (online) shop lists of the existing 5 fuel companies.
62026-05-19 22:19commentedHenryEKI remember this gas station changed owners to some red and white brand a year or two ago. Last time I was down here was january and it was still red
72026-05-21 12:33commentedvectorial8192Red/white is SINOPEC or Esso, and the website https://www.sinopechongkong.com/retail_hk/driver_oil_network agrees.
82026-05-21 12:42closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182974426 ; closing.
5141822 (iD)12026-01-25 04:05openedkingkingHKhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/444187633 feels like a descriptive name, but I'm not sure. (Also, it should probably be "Ventilation")
22026-05-20 07:22commentedvectorial8192By survey, I can't get into here (poor/incomplete OSM data), but I intuitively believe the description.
32026-05-20 07:33commentedkingkingHKI have surveyed there in the past also can't get there. But seeing both government maps and wikipedia describe this building is a ventilation shaft for Tate's Cairn Tunnel, I think we can just move the `name=` into `description=`.
42026-05-21 08:39closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182963664 ; closing.
5150201 (iD)12026-02-01 07:04openedkingkingHKtodo: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/171944114 `access=yes` but `foot=no` `bicycle=no` `motor_vehicle=no`? So who can use it? If no gate as https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4104680 said , how is it `=no`? Which one is correct?
22026-02-01 11:19commentedvectorial8192I think there were ancient notes at this location which may be relevant to this. @kingkingHK seeing you can somehow know/check they exist and can revive them, go have a look at those ancient notes.
32026-02-01 11:57commentedkingkingHKThere are https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4104676 https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4104681 https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4104680 which are indeed relevant, but I don't see any additional value they provide in clarifying the current confusing tagging. P.S. to check ancient notes, try getting better-osm-org from https://github.com/deevroma...
42026-02-01 13:46commentedvectorial8192My armchair says that the road is ownership=private
52026-05-20 08:40commentedvectorial8192My in-detail armchair says this is a mapping mistake. Water facilities are basically closed from the public. Checking feature history, we can see that the feature started as the internal road of the facility, and then was extended and clarified. The key is that the clarification describes the internal roads separately from the external roads but d...
62026-05-20 17:56closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182940740 ; closing.
5286465 (iD)12026-05-10 13:34openedvectorial8192todo/issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/261873910 "Mobil" is not a known fuel company; did you mean "Esso"?
22026-05-20 16:24closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182936685 ; closing.
5286438 (iD)12026-05-10 13:17openedvectorial8192todo/issue: petrol station review
22026-05-10 13:18commentedvectorial8192e.g., duplicated mapping?
32026-05-17 14:37commentedvectorial8192By website, there really is 2x same brand here. (wait for NSI preset)
42026-05-19 17:44commentedvectorial8192I suddenly remember, NSI update timings are generally unpredictable. For convenience and task progress, can use existing NSI data for now.
52026-05-20 15:51closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182935120 ; closing.
5164334 (iD)12026-02-12 07:41openedvectorial8192name seems unsubstantiated
22026-02-12 08:15commentedkingkingHKhttps://www.hkitalk.net/HKiTalk2/thread-2229220-1-1.html ?
32026-02-12 10:09commentedvectorial8192; https://www.hb.gov.hk/tc/publications/housing/public/phpf/Attachment1tc.pdf : no results.
42026-02-12 14:21commentedkingkingHKI vaguely remember they later thought the name was too bad and retracted it, I guess that's why we can't find it anymore. If that's the case, perhaps we can move the name to `proposed:name=` or even `was:proposed:name=`.
52026-02-12 15:29commentedvectorial8192No. Do not do `was:proposed:name=*`. How do you even prove to me (I just came here today) that there was such a name other than via "trust me bro"? The baby doesn't have a name simply because of the trivial fact that said baby was aborted. We can at most give the baby a descriptive name. For example, OSM contains curves for a hypothetical North I...
62026-02-13 07:25commentedkingkingHKSee http://web.archive.org/web/20250926192231/https://www.hb.gov.hk/tc/publications/housing/public/phpf/Attachment1tc.pdf Also, isn't `source=local knowledge` essentially just "trust me bro"?
72026-02-23 09:58commentedkingkingHK@vectorial8192 please see if you are satisfied with the quoted page.
82026-02-23 14:34commentedvectorial8192I was scheduling to eventually reply to this note in the coming weeks, but ok. --------------- Re "local knowledge", at least in theory there is a real person behind the account that made the change, so a bad edit is still blamable and/or bannable. Re the Wayback Machine link, nope, it's fundamentally still "trust me bro" but more glorious and s...
92026-02-24 11:46commentedKovoschiz1. Facts are not copyrighted, only creative expressions and arrangements. You should look at the ToS only. The list of properties might be trivially assembled in their working, not protected by database rights either. 2. I don't see how the past record of Wayback Machine has to do with this
102026-04-20 15:53commentedvectorial8192Then, I quote the Help Page https://help.archive.org/help/rights/ , esp: > The Internet Archive does not make guarantees as to the copyright status of items [...] When the PDF is no longer current, my opinion is that the government has basically retracted the copyright, and the document is now some sort of "government internal document leak". We ...
112026-05-20 10:13commentedkingkingHK> here the docs never went past the publication stage ...it did? That's exactly what the Wayback Machine shows? > never gotten any names to begin with ??????
5296627 (iD)12026-05-17 07:15openedkingkingHKtodo: physical separation; draw as two ways
5296607 (iD)12026-05-17 07:10openedkingkingHKtodo: bridge has physical separation; draw as two ways
5296606 (iD)12026-05-17 07:10openedkingkingHKtodo: bollard separation; draw as two ways
5296585 (iD)12026-05-17 06:51openedkingkingHKtodo: physical separation; draw as two ways
5296580 (iD)12026-05-17 06:46openedkingkingHKtodo: bridge has bollard separation; draw as two ways
5296578 (iD)12026-05-17 06:45openedkingkingHKtodo: bridge has bollard separation; draw as two ways
5296577 (iD)12026-05-17 06:43openedkingkingHKtodo: bridge has bollard separation; draw as two ways
5296576 (iD)12026-05-17 06:42openedkingkingHKtodo: physical separation; draw as two ways
5296561 (iD)12026-05-17 06:34openedkingkingHKtodo: bridge has bollard separation; draw as two ways
5296560 (iD)12026-05-17 06:32openedkingkingHKtodo: bridge has bollard separation; draw as two ways
5294906 (iD)12026-05-16 10:05openedvectorial8192todo/issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/100824558 "Eco" is not a known fuel company; oudated data?
22026-05-16 16:12commentedKovoschizCan you update your description template, already explained in last https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5286430
5293080 (iD)12026-05-15 08:10openedHCCSTE獨居
22026-05-15 08:11closedHCCSTE
5287505 (iD)12026-05-11 09:18openedvectorial8192todo/issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/558985076 , etc.
22026-05-11 12:04commentedkingkingHK? only connects to IEC, or is that not what you are trying to point out
32026-05-11 18:12commentedKovoschiz@vectorial8192 Can you please explain or be more specific than "todo/issue"? This is not your personal notebook.
42026-05-11 18:13commentedKovoschizIt's almost "don't ask to ask". I have to guess what you are asking to explain it. This wastes our time waiting that could be used to directly answer you.
52026-05-12 09:37commentedvectorial8192I can't always immediately reply/do stuff. Normally I will make the changeset myself, but when at that moment I do not have time, and I believe I have noticed a mistake, then I make a note, and hope that someone else (future me, or present others) can do that while I do something else. I believe this is standard practice, and I am not treating OSM ...
62026-05-12 09:41commentedvectorial8192Specifically, @Kovoschiz you should know what this note is referring to because you just did the same thing in another place within these few days. Actual issue: `highway=trunk` cannot produce `highway=motorway_link` without a "supporting" `highway=motorway`. I am pretty sure this is a "too large; didn't notice" mistake from the recent (multiple)...
72026-05-12 09:44commentedvectorial8192Upon closer look e.g. by @kingkingHK, are we trying to justify this motorway link with the east-side Route 4 motorway? Seems very unusual when e.g. there is a section which is `highway=trunk` already.
82026-05-12 10:11commentedkingkingHKSigh. If you hope others can help, then at the very very least explain what help is needed. We can't read your mind. When you are leaving what is practically giberrish, it should be expected that others are annoyed. Re issue, extend motorway rule. If you disagree, please take it elsewhere (e.g. existing Discord thread). We don't need notes to tra...
92026-05-12 17:52commentedKovoschiz@vectorial8192 No, we are asking you to be clear what the problem is. Not "todo/issue:", simply "`=motorway_link` ?" would do. "Don't use notes for yourself in a way which is useless to others. Although you can use notes as a reminder to yourself, you are also inviting others to look at it. Descriptions must make sense to other people." https://w...
102026-05-12 17:56commentedKovoschiz`=motorway_link` / `=motorway` on `=trunk` should have been argued before (eg Lei Yue Mun Rd southbound) HK is unusual with completely no-lane-change on all tunnels, and Tunnel Area midway through Expressway. That's the reality.
112026-05-12 17:58commentedKovoschizAnd gazetting street names on all slip lanes/roads (where OSM would expect no `name=` on `highway=*_link` internationally)
122026-05-13 08:52commentedkingkingHKA link only connecting to a `highway=x` would be `highway=x_link`. Is it really that difficult to understand?
132026-05-14 16:12closedvectorial8192Need not repeat "OSM is not a personal notebook" and "link is link". Basically, I initially thought this would be a simple tagging mistake. It turns out this is (disappointingly) being reduced/redirected to the motorway tagging topic. It seems I currently do not fully approve of the existing motorway approach. We may see there is an ever-increas...
142026-05-15 03:46reopenedkingkingHK
152026-05-15 03:56closedkingkingHKWe repeat "OSM is not a personal notebook" because this is not the first time this has happened, and certainly it won't be the last if we don't warn you about it. Better repeat it now, than waste time waiting for you to clarify potential future ambiguous notes. We also need to repeat "link is link" because it is a fundamental principle on how link...
5287967 (iD)12026-05-11 15:39openedVera German"(!!) big electronic box for clothings and accessories to recycle ♻️ " OSM snapshot date: 2026-04-04T03:36:32Z POI has no name POI types: amenity-recycling-container #organicmaps ios 2026.04.07-8-ios
22026-05-12 06:30closedRuslan Fatih
5287748 (iD)12026-05-11 12:43openedVera German"Why isn’t the category just “place of worship”/church???" OSM snapshot date: 2026-04-04T03:36:32Z POI name: 耶穌基督後期聖徒會灣仔教堂 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints POI types: amenity-place_of_worship-christian-mormon #organicmaps ios 2026.04.07-8-ios
22026-05-11 13:51commentedkingkingHKIt is just `amenity=place_of_worship`, what are you talking about?
32026-05-11 16:53commentedVera GermanThe Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints - why specifically this type of church has its one icon on a map, all I meant. So far in all countries I’ve only seen one icon for all Christian churches
42026-05-11 18:19closedKovoschiz1. Please ask the app, or discuss elsewhere, for questions about the app. This is not a data problem. 2. Simple, it's exactly because `denomination=mormon` has been coded with an icon in that app. It has been explained there. https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/issues/4931 https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/pull/5821 https://en.wiki...
52026-05-11 18:19reopenedKovoschiz
62026-05-11 18:20closedKovoschiz
5286446 (iD)12026-05-10 13:24openedvectorial8192todo/issue: review petrol station (duplicate mapping?)
22026-05-11 15:13closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182516442 ; closing.
5286293 (iD)12026-05-10 11:55openedvectorial8192todo/issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/813139621 "Feoso" is not a known fuel company; data mistake?
22026-05-10 11:56closedvectorial8192network issue; duplicate of https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5286291
5276301 (iD)12026-05-02 22:33openedJon Wang缺乏物理边界,停车场与可通行道路的标记;
22026-05-10 01:35closedJon Wang
5274944 (iD)12026-05-02 09:10openedkingkingHKtodo: slip lane opened?
22026-05-09 12:12commentedKovoschizIt's for the footbridge. Should be opened around the same time.
32026-05-09 12:12commentedKovoschiz(Should be to open)
5282853 (iD)12026-05-08 06:45openedvectorial8192todo/issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/147463823
22026-05-09 12:08closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182421667
5034469 (iD)12025-11-02 14:55openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22025-12-18 09:56commentedkingkingHKIndeed there is a family medicine clinic here.
32026-05-05 17:57closedCrystaltszz
42026-05-05 17:57reopenedCrystaltszz
5220075 (iD)12026-03-26 04:16openedvectorial8192issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1049993024 ancient todo
22026-03-27 06:36commentedkingkingHKCity blocks don't have well-defined boundaries. Not sure what can be done here.
32026-03-27 07:51commentedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5220074
42026-05-04 15:21closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182210820 ; closing.
5220074 (iD)12026-03-26 04:16openedvectorial8192issue: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1049686177 ancient todo
22026-03-27 06:36commentedkingkingHKCity blocks don't have well-defined boundaries. Not sure what can be done here.
32026-03-27 07:52commentedKovoschizYes, they have, if according to numbered planning areas inside a scheme (as I have used)
42026-04-26 13:16commentedvectorial8192The polygon seems to (aim to) describe some sort of neighbourhood rather than a specific development plot (e.g. Area XX).
52026-04-26 13:23commentedvectorial8192For reference, e.g. "Tin Shui Wai South" is currently an OSM quarter.
62026-04-26 13:31commentedvectorial8192By using the Nominatim Reverse Search ( https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ui/reverse.html ) I can see the addresses of this area is currently shown as "Tin Shui Wai North". I have no better addressing name for this neighbourhood. I propose just deleting the ancient todo polygon and finish.
72026-05-04 15:17commentedvectorial8192No response; I'm doing it. If anything, individual plot numbers (e.g. TSW Area XX) can be added separately when good data sources are found. Seeing no real progress on the plot number mapping over the years, safe to say we do not need a todo polygon for tracking / reminder.
82026-05-04 15:19closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182210763 ; closing.
5270701 (iD)12026-04-29 07:22openedFuture side of Hong Kong Shu Yan School. https://www.syalumni.org/projects https://www.legco.gov.hk/yr2025/english/panels/ed/papers/ed20250207cb3-127-4-e.pdf
22026-05-01 11:26commentedvectorial8192Obviously we cannot use the diagrams, but at least we may document the school proposal.
32026-05-03 16:39closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182168842 ; closing.
3149177 (iD)12022-04-23 16:52openedWhcohiThe ele is way off, don't think it a good idea to keep misinformation.
22022-04-27 01:35closedPoHKrefer CEDD (Civil Engineering and Development Department), Lo Han Tower top level is +819.8
32022-04-27 07:44reopenedWhcohi
42022-04-27 08:07commentedWhcohii know, but is it okay to said it out right the ele data is refer to the CEDD?
52026-01-18 16:50commentedvectorial8192Re Discord discussions, it seems that in general in OSM, we may not copy data from a database. The CEDD data is quite complete (every hill should have a height record there) and would count as a database, so we may not copy from it.
62026-01-19 02:25commentedkingkingHKFrom Discord discussion, the safest way would be to use out-of-copyright maps. Unfortunately, it seems like the maps from 1975 left this area as an uncontoured blank space simply labelled "Rock Outcrop".
72026-02-02 12:48commentedvectorial8192The government didn't care about Lantau Island until there was political need to build a new airport, which would mean that consideration and associated surveying happened in the 1980s. Worst case, by the 50-year rule, we would need to wait until 2035 or later to really find usable maps for this. I am unsubscribing from this note.
82026-02-02 13:16commentedkingkingHKUnfortunately, 819.8 m only started appearing in government maps from 1994, meaning we would need to wait until 2044. This note is virtually unactionable unless we somehow triangulate the elevation.
92026-04-25 06:22commentedkingkingHKWait. This note isn't asking us to copy from government maps. The only thing we have to do to close this note is to look at government maps, compare it to osm, and check that the two are the same. This cannot possibly be a copyright infringement because nothing is copied. @vectorial8192 what do you think? (Or have you unsubscribed already?)
102026-04-30 12:47commentedvectorial8192I was unsubscribed. (As we can see, pinging people here has no effect.) I haven't investigated this note/case in any effective detail, but I would think cross-checking maps may count as "using external maps to edit OSM". I will remain subscribed for a bit.
112026-04-30 13:36commentedkingkingHKYeah but, surely closing a note without making changesets doesn't count as "editing osm"? (Ok, now that I think of it, notes are part is the osm database...) Maybe I will ask more people elsewhere.
122026-04-30 14:21commentedkingkingHKStarted a discussion in OSM World Discord https://discord.com/channels/413070382636072960/413070502580453387/1499408018129944697
132026-04-30 16:50commentedKovoschizYou could have waited a while first. The best would be to pursuit the Crown Copyright, as especially the terrain is presumably produced by the colonial agency alone for itself.
142026-05-01 08:01commentedkingkingHKNot too sure what you mean, I thought we already knew that Crown Copyright can't be used?
152026-05-01 11:23commentedvectorial8192I recall closing an unrelated note at Kai Tak 1331. I closed it because we can't survey it (access=private), and we can't armchair it (YouTube is not a usable source). No pathway exists. Here, we may potentially survey this by triangulation (may be difficult), or armchair this by using appropriate maps. It's unclear whether we really have no pathw...
162026-05-01 11:24commentedKovoschizWhat I said should be it needs to be clarified by LWG. Contours should be fine, and especially survey spots .
172026-05-01 11:26commentedKovoschizStrangely colonies may be better. Only OS is not OGL, only Crown Copyright, thus 50 years.
182026-05-01 11:29commentedKovoschiz(I'm referring to the previous status, and historical works. The problem is printed maps contain other org's data.)
192026-05-01 12:39commentedkingkingHKThen, how may we get the LWG to clarify? Do we just email legal-questions@osmfoundation.org (email from wiki) and explain the situation? I really don't know anything about this.
202026-05-01 16:08commentedvectorial8192I don't know all the steps, but basically "after some time" the LWG will meet up and discuss questions, and then the results will be posted to somewhere at the Wiki or sth.
5271951 (iD)12026-04-30 05:39opened屏山鄉天后寶誕巡遊
22026-04-30 12:43closedvectorial8192https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes > For example never create notes such as "I was here on Saturday" or "There was a crime at this location". > 例如,千萬不要創建諸如“我星期六來過這裡”或“這裡發生過犯罪事件”之類的筆記。
32026-04-30 13:02reopenedvectorial8192
42026-04-30 13:02closedvectorial8192To clarify: temporary or short-term events usually should not be documented on OSM. 補充說明:OSM通常不應用作記錄臨時或短暫的事件。
5269824 (iD)12026-04-28 14:00openedkingkingHKtodo/issue: review mapping of https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/16312559 ; probably against "relations are not categories"
5269556 (iD)12026-04-28 10:22openedHayden wong"已經開放了給公眾使用 不是在建道路" OSM snapshot date: 2026-04-05T19:23:11Z POI name: 粉嶺繞道 Fanling Bypass POI types: hwtag-nobicycle highway-construction hwtag-nofoot hwtag-oneway #CoMaps android 2026.04.07-8-Google
22026-04-28 13:47closedkingkingHKNo it is not.
5267129 (iD)12026-04-26 14:08openedkingkingHKtodo/issue: this section of Kwok Shui Road drives on the right, but the turning circle is clockwise?
22026-04-27 11:45commentedKovoschizMay be editing mistake (HK-wide)
32026-04-27 11:55closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1704049753/history/5
5165553 (iD)12026-02-13 03:36openedvectorial8192junction has fixme: propose to split; separation continues from traffic island
22026-04-26 13:45closedvectorial8192I see this fixme was adopted and implemented in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178627723 . Therefore, closing.
32026-04-26 14:00reopenedkingkingHK
42026-04-26 14:00commentedkingkingHKMaybe I misunderstood something, but isn't the current situation still wrong because of the "pencil-tip" mapping? I thought this note was meant to address that.
52026-04-27 11:42closedKovoschizIt's fine to follow the `lane_markings=yes`
5267845 (iD)12026-04-27 03:15opened旺角中心
22026-04-27 08:50closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/14707425/history/1 osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for g...
5267124 (iD)12026-04-26 14:02openedkingkingHKtodo/issue: some parts of Heung Yip Road should be bridges
5174639 (iD)12026-02-20 13:47openedawhchkWhen I visited a few days ago, the one-way traffic around T5-10 seems to run anticlockwise now, judging from the painted arrows on the street. I didn't get to check the whole street in detail though, so this could be wrong. Someone might want to verify if able.
22026-02-21 11:33commentedvectorial8192Might be temporary measure. Aerial imagery shows some construction work at Shap Pat Heung Road - Kung Um Road. Might be related if perhaps the left turn no longer works while WIP.
32026-04-09 13:02commentedkingkingHKThe estate appears to be `access=private`. This information might be unverifiable.
42026-04-26 11:37commentedvectorial8192lol rofl; we be armchairing this, and then aerial imagery (MapBox) can clearly show the anticlockwise direction. facepalm moment.
52026-04-26 11:56closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181842154 with a facepalm; closing.
5259315 (iD)12026-04-21 09:47openedvectorial8192issue: KMB 36B: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13901595 https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13901594 Validator warning: route scheme is unspecified; clarify "public_transport:version"
22026-04-25 09:03commentedkingkingHKImo this doesn't need a note for tracking. Just do it.
32026-04-25 13:56commentedvectorial8192Correct in principle, but I simply don't know what this v1/v2 thing means. You can do it if you know this.
42026-04-25 14:14commentedkingkingHKBasically, there are two schemas for mapping public transport routes, v1 and v2. The tag `public_transport:version=` is for specifying which one is used. For these two specific relations, they are actually broken (missing/no stops), so (iirc) they fit neither of the schemas. So no `public_transport:version=`. The way to fix it is to map it properl...
52026-04-25 14:44commentedvectorial8192ooof, then this can be classified as a large edit, and we will need to track this.
5115217 (iD)12026-01-03 06:19openedvectorial8192special note: note https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/758446 is covered by other notes; this note is to help with note management.
22026-01-03 07:59closedNeisReviewNo actionable information was provided for editing OpenStreetMap data. Please feel free to reopen this note with more details. #noeditinfo
32026-01-03 08:07reopenedvectorial8192
42026-01-03 08:08commentedvectorial8192Meta-Note: this note helps others to more conveniently notice/click other notes.
52026-01-03 11:31closedvectorial8192Referenced note is closed. Therefore, closing.
62026-01-03 11:39reopenedkingkingHK
72026-01-03 11:39commentedkingkingHKReviving with parent note.
82026-04-25 09:10commentedkingkingHKNo more overlapping notes; this note is now unnecessary. I propose closing.
92026-04-25 14:08closedvectorial8192Oh yeah, I forgor about this again. Notice I did close another note nearby some time ago. Thanks for the heads-up. Mission accomplished; closing.
5264444 (iD)12026-04-24 19:54openedEdited node/11752363006 實惠 PRICERITE (Supermarket): ! Place was marked permanently closed. Suggested location change: 22.2821916, 114.1273465 -------- Submitted from https://osmapp.org/node/11752363006
22026-04-25 09:14commentedkingkingHKhttps://www.pricerite.com.hk/hk/en/storeInfo/ agrees
5173374 (iD)12026-02-19 13:04openedvectorial8192https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13349030768 ; ?????
22026-02-19 14:14commentedkingkingHK99.9% just a copy-and-paste error; don't know how that happened
32026-03-14 14:51commentedvectorial8192Left a comment at OP; hopefully they will reply later and review this.
42026-03-15 05:02commentedkingkingHKThat guy has history of ignoring changeset comments. I won't hope for anything. As you have been to Ma On Shan recently, do you have any data yourself about this?
52026-03-16 09:58commentedvectorial8192I mean, multiple reasons why they would "ignore" OSM emails (e.g. they don't check every day, they somehow gave the notifications to spam, etc), so not too much of a problem. Besides, I can't realistically do high intensity OSM every day. I will just try to give it back to them. Maybe eventually it's me who will do it later, but that's a future pr...
62026-03-21 05:46commentedkingkingHKhkbus-fandom says this bus stop doesn't have a pole, so I doubt it qualifies for `highway=bus_stop` in osm.
72026-03-21 06:47commentedvectorial8192... then how do you indicate in OSM that "buses can pick up/drop off passengers here"? The OSM Wiki for highway=bus_stop says "[...] may be marked [...]". The definition/wording allows unmarked stops.
82026-03-21 11:08commentedKovoschizThere's `pole=no` , `flag=no`
92026-03-21 11:46commentedkingkingHKThe problem is that the exact location is unverifiable without a pole/marking. Not even the Schedule of Service gives the location: https://www.td.gov.hk/filemanager/en/content_4796/MOS/nr84.pdf
102026-04-25 09:07commentedkingkingHKOne solution I can think of is to tag `hail_and_ride` along the section intended as a stop.
5214067 (iD)12026-03-21 15:50openedFairy Pita
22026-04-05 07:25commentedkingkingHKNot too sure what this means. Does anyone know?
32026-04-25 09:05closedkingkingHKMeaning is unclear; closing.
5257163 (iD)12026-04-19 15:13openedvectorial8192todo/issue: Junction: physical separation (what a mess!)
22026-04-25 08:15commentedvectorial8192Split with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181795558
32026-04-25 08:42commentedvectorial8192Relations cleaned up with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181796322
42026-04-25 08:42closedvectorial8192All done; closing.
5263460 (iD)12026-04-24 07:54openedvectorial8192todo/issue: 2x Exit 9C
22026-04-24 11:07closedkingkingHKGood find; seems like an editing mistake from https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/122615664 (moving junction without moving the `highway=motorway_junction`) Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181759319 ; closing.
5259823 (iD)12026-04-21 15:24opened终点:北潭凹
22026-04-22 02:10closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
32026-04-23 17:36reopenedvectorial8192
42026-04-23 17:37closedvectorial8192https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes For example never create notes such as "I was here on Saturday" or "There was a crime at this location". 例如,千萬不要創建諸如“我星期六來過這裡”或“這裡發生過犯罪事件”之類的筆記。
5259827 (iD)12026-04-21 15:26opened起点:万宜东坝
22026-04-22 02:10closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
32026-04-23 17:35reopenedvectorial8192
42026-04-23 17:36closedvectorial8192https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes For example never create notes such as "I was here on Saturday" or "There was a crime at this location". 例如,千萬不要創建諸如“我星期六來過這裡”或“這裡發生過犯罪事件”之類的筆記。
5034442 (iD)12025-11-02 14:52openedvectorial8192Should this be a Family Medicine Clinic?
22025-11-02 14:53commentedvectorial8192Seems like it; the placement makes it very unobvious.
32025-12-14 09:33commentedvectorial8192Interestingly, it seems there are 2 entrances: one at the low side (Queen's Road), and another at the high side (Hospital Road). Will need to look at this again.
42026-04-19 14:23commentedkingkingHKIndeed there is a FMC here.
52026-04-23 12:31closedkingkingHKNot uncommon to have two entrances, especially considering the hilly terrain of this area. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181716103 ; closing.
5261435 (iD)12026-04-22 16:24openedvectorial8192todo/issue: Unexpected connection between railway and stream.
22026-04-23 02:44closedkingkingHKEditing software should really warn about this kind of stuff. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181697331 ; closing.
5259988 (iD)12026-04-21 16:35opened路不通行
22026-04-22 02:10closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
2598829 (iD)12021-03-29 08:10openedHang Tone恒通渠務工程有限公司 Hang Tone Drainage Engineering Limited 新界元朗錦田吳家村400號
22025-05-03 11:26commentedvectorial8192Website http://www.hangtone.com.hk/ agrees with this note
32025-08-13 10:21commentedkingkingHKCorrect, feature exists IRL.
42025-10-08 14:40commentedvectorial8192But is it located here? Ng Ka Tsuen is located north of this note, and I am unfamiliar with rural addressing. It would seem to me, if the company really is located here, then it should probably take the address street as Kam Sheung Road.
52026-01-22 13:55commentedkingkingHKYeah, I think it is here. No idea why it's so far from Ng Ka Tsuen.
62026-04-21 09:58commentedvectorial8192In OSM we trust. Rural addressing can be really confusing to urbanites.
72026-04-21 10:01closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181618934 ; closing.
4306096 (iD)12024-06-24 13:55opened此處並沒有廁所
22026-01-22 13:51commentedkingkingHKIndeed.
32026-04-21 09:53closedvectorial8192In OSM we trust. I mean, the actions required should be trivial. Just do it. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181618500 ; closing.
5043137 (iD)12025-11-08 10:09openedLkwokon河背營地
22026-01-22 13:51commentedkingkingHKIndeed.
32026-04-21 09:51closedvectorial8192In OSM we trust. This should be a polygon, but at least we can start with a node, which is done in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181618439 Closing.
5257115 (iD)12026-04-19 14:40openedvectorial8192todo/issue: Wo Yi Hop Road: physical separation
22026-04-21 09:21commentedvectorial8192Split with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181617196
32026-04-21 09:33commentedvectorial8192Relations cleaned with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181617645
42026-04-21 09:41commentedvectorial8192The approach left behind inconsistent roads; fixed with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181618054
52026-04-21 09:43commentedvectorial8192Mapping mistake with KMB 31M; fixed with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181618135
62026-04-21 09:44closedvectorial8192This is very messy. Used the wrong plans. All done; closing.
5254728 (iD)12026-04-18 05:58openedvectorial8192todo/issue: Exit E/F
22026-04-20 11:18commentedkingkingHKUh, can you elaborate?
32026-04-21 07:30closedvectorial8192Basically, the data was too confusing and did not clearly explain the exit E/F situation. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181612941 . Feel free to make additional improvement changesets, but at least the E/F situation is clarified. Closing.
5239861 (iD)12026-04-08 05:13openedvectorial8192todo/issue: Where are the station exits?
22026-04-20 14:43closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181586912 ; closing.
5034358 (iD)12025-11-02 14:19openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22026-01-29 08:57commentedkingkingHKIndeed there is a Family Medicine Clinic here.
32026-04-19 14:56commentedvectorial8192We do have a FMC here, with some other stuff.
42026-04-19 15:01closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181542727 ; closing.
5257117 (iD)12026-04-19 14:41openedvectorial8192todo/issue: Wo Yi Hop Road: physical separation
5034359 (iD)12025-11-02 14:19openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22026-01-29 08:57commentedkingkingHKIndeed there is a Family Medicine Clinic here.
32026-04-19 14:19commentedvectorial8192We do have a FMC here.
42026-04-19 14:26closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181541202 ; closing.
5215003 (iD)12026-03-22 11:33openedAngus Lee"Shop A. Shop name is CHI Tachinomi." OSM snapshot date: 2026-03-10T00:09:11Z POI has no name POI types: amenity-bbq #organicmaps ios 2026.03.11-12-ios
22026-04-19 14:23commentedkingkingHKCorrect
5128913 (iD)12026-01-14 12:11opened家寶洗衣 西環域多利道1-15 號百年大廈一座地舖 C
22026-04-19 07:03commentedkingkingHKCorrect
32026-04-19 14:22closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181540997 ; closing.
5122127 (iD)12026-01-08 15:20openeduser_10539745"wrong spot, there are 2 correct ones already added" The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2025-12-14T02:16:23Z POI name: 鮨政 Sushi Masa POI types: amenity-restaurant #organicmaps ios ...
22026-01-28 13:14commentedvectorial8192This shop is probably closed; we got another one elsewhere (see https://www.taikwun.hk/en/lifestyle_enjoyment/shop/sushi-masa-black-and-masa-lounge/122 ).
32026-03-01 05:58commentedkingkingHKOnline info says there's another two at 105 Jervois Street and 9 Kingston Street
42026-03-05 12:24commentedkingkingHKBy survey, indeed there's one at at 105 Jervois Street and none here; haven't checked Causeway Bay yet.
52026-03-05 15:28commentedvectorial8192Opinion: open a new note for Causeway Bay, or sth.
62026-03-08 05:15commentedkingkingHKGood idea; I have considered it but thought it doesn't really matter as note management is not important when no one except us will check notes regularly anyway. But still, now that you are asking for it, I can do that. Sheung Wan see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179518628
72026-03-08 05:30commentedkingkingHKWellington Street see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179518884
82026-03-08 05:34commentedkingkingHKNew note see https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5195386 Now I suddenly remember that I forgot to survey the one at Tai Kwun... I guess I will just believe online info.
92026-04-19 12:20closedkingkingHKTai Kwun resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181535317 ; closing.
5239628 (iD)12026-04-07 20:46openedooPharma LTD
22026-04-19 09:02closedkingkingHKNote invalid (item does not exist irl); closing.
5128915 (iD)12026-01-14 12:12opened晴天專業洗衣服務 堅尼地城厚和街49號Shop A2
22026-04-19 07:05commentedkingkingHKCorrect
5128914 (iD)12026-01-14 12:11openedGoodwins of London (Kennedy Town Shop) 乾洗店 堅尼地城卑路乍街183號
22026-04-19 06:51commentedkingkingHKCorrect
5231208 (iD)12026-04-03 09:09openedkingkingHKHas this part of Kam Tin Road been widened?
22026-04-12 09:45commentedkingkingHKYes.
32026-04-18 14:24closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181501054 ; closing.
5254629 (iD)12026-04-18 02:00openedHayden wong這條公路是收費公路 #CoMaps android 2026.04.07-8-Google
22026-04-18 05:30closedkingkingHKNo it is not.
32026-04-18 06:11reopenedvectorial8192
42026-04-18 06:12commentedvectorial8192Yes it is. If you are referring to the Bypass, it *is* a tolled road.
52026-04-18 06:13commentedvectorial8192We can double check whether it is currently tolled or free.
62026-04-18 06:30commentedkingkingHKIt is currently free though afaik. It is already tagged with `proposed:toll=yes`.
72026-04-18 09:08closedKovoschizCome on, it "is" not now. We don't need to check.
5156487 (iD)12026-02-06 02:58openedkingkingHKI doubt https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/97816026 is really `surface=fine_gravel`.
22026-03-04 12:24commentedvectorial8192At this point I am suspecting software issues (e.g. StreetComplete or related apps giving wrong instructions), but I have no proof.
32026-04-18 05:24closedkingkingHKResolved by someone else via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180232988 ; closing.
5175577 (iD)12026-02-21 12:19openedkingkingHKtodo: new traffic signals?
22026-04-14 10:30commentedvectorial8192Potentially close-able; see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180391465
32026-04-14 11:03commentedkingkingHKI still have some data myself; will make changeset soon.
42026-04-15 14:23closedkingkingHKI apologise for my tendency to survey notes without resolving them. I will try to spend more time on resolving notes, but I feel like I am overcommitting myself. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181370105 ; closing.
5249431 (iD)12026-04-14 08:06openedyouyeetoo 2619, 26/F, Delta House, No.3 On Yiu Street, Shatin, New Territories, Hong Kong
22026-04-14 08:06closedyouyeetoo
5234931 (iD)12026-04-05 06:21openedvectorial8192todo/issue: possibly problematic bus lanes, etc.
22026-04-13 14:52closedvectorial8192The key is to remove the virtual channelization (ancient), which is done in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181280034 . Therefore, resolving.
5115205 (iD)12026-01-03 06:09openedvectorial8192special note: note https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/939664 is covered by other notes; this note is to help with note management.
22026-01-03 07:59closedNeisReviewNo actionable information was provided for editing OpenStreetMap data. Please feel free to reopen this note with more details. #noeditinfo
32026-01-03 08:07reopenedvectorial8192
42026-01-03 08:09commentedvectorial8192Meta-Note: this note helps others to more conveniently notice/click other notes.
52026-04-13 12:29closedvectorial8192Referenced note is closed. Propagating.
5246298 (iD)12026-04-12 04:23openedvectorial8192todo/issue: Station building layering/scope
22026-04-13 03:36closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181255690 ; closing.
5034344 (iD)12025-11-02 14:16openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22026-04-12 09:18closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181220299 ; closing.
5185673 (iD)12026-03-01 03:16openedperdestrian stair toward entrence #OsmAnd
22026-03-12 14:12commentedkingkingHKWe should be able to do this with old maps; unlikely the cemetery changed much.
32026-04-12 06:40closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181215894 ; closing.
5134778 (iD)12026-01-19 05:34openedvectorial8192todo: station is too small
22026-04-12 03:27closedフーヴァー リーSolved
32026-04-12 04:00reopenedkingkingHK
42026-04-12 04:00commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
5128949 (iD)12026-01-14 12:20openedMissing Location: 保美洗衣 灣仔盧押道11-13號修頓商業大廈
22026-03-01 09:10commentedkingkingHKCorrect
32026-04-12 03:26closedフーヴァー リー
42026-04-12 04:00reopenedkingkingHK
52026-04-12 04:00commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
5128944 (iD)12026-01-14 12:19opened清深洗衣專門店 Oceanic Laundry Shop 灣仔晏頓街1號安定大廈
22026-03-01 09:10commentedkingkingHKCorrect
32026-04-12 03:26closedフーヴァー リー
42026-04-12 04:00reopenedkingkingHK
52026-04-12 04:00commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
5128946 (iD)12026-01-14 12:19openedMissing Location: Sunshine Laundry Convenience Store 自助洗衣店 http://www.sunshinelaundry.com.hk/
22026-03-01 09:10commentedkingkingHKCorrect
32026-04-12 03:26closedフーヴァー リー
42026-04-12 03:59reopenedkingkingHK
52026-04-12 04:00commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
5128947 (iD)12026-01-14 12:20openedMissing Location: 天天洗衣 Daily Laundry 灣仔莊士敦道36-42號聯發大廈地下36A1舖
22026-03-01 09:10commentedkingkingHKCorrect
32026-04-12 03:26closedフーヴァー リー
42026-04-12 03:59reopenedkingkingHK
52026-04-12 03:59commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
5128950 (iD)12026-01-14 12:21openedMissing Location: 保仕 乾洗公司 地舖, Shun Pont Commercial Building, 9號 Thomson Rd, Wan Chai
22026-03-01 09:10commentedkingkingHKCorrect
32026-04-12 03:26closedフーヴァー リー
42026-04-12 03:59reopenedkingkingHK
52026-04-12 03:59commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
5128943 (iD)12026-01-14 12:19openedMissing Location: British Dry Cleaners 英商乾洗 灣仔月街7號 http://www.britishdrycleaners.com/
22026-03-01 09:10commentedkingkingHKCorrect
32026-04-12 03:26closedフーヴァー リー
42026-04-12 03:59reopenedkingkingHK
52026-04-12 03:59commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
5177084 (iD)12026-02-22 13:39openedvectorial8192todo: Improve data quality by aerial imagery, etc.
22026-02-22 14:11commentedkingkingHKThis is a very general description. Can you elaborate on what improvements you expect?
32026-02-22 14:56commentedvectorial8192e.g. alignment, features, etc.
42026-03-26 15:06commentedvectorial8192One challenge is that multiple aerial imagery sources have distortions here, which makes cross-referencing difficult, or at least just very unsmooth.
52026-04-10 18:09closedvectorial8192Finally, this side also LGTM. Closing.
939664 (iD)12017-03-25 10:02openedKoala888(可能)日軍手掘洞 (OSM data version: 2017-03-06T16:48:02Z) #mapsme
22026-01-03 06:01closedbpaz709394
32026-01-03 06:44reopenedkingkingHK
42026-01-03 09:33commentedkmpoppeThis note was part of a mass-closure without any comment. It was subsequently reopened, as it's unclear if the problem mentioned still persists.
52026-02-05 14:21commentedvectorial8192Perhaps this is referring to https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/11245354726 , which is not located here.
62026-02-06 02:55commentedkingkingHKWell, looking at nearby features, it seems like there are quite a lot of Japanese caves in this area. It is not unlikely to really have an unmapped one here.
72026-02-06 04:40commentedvectorial8192It is extremely unnatural to have multiple notes in different time frames share the exact same coordinates. One probable cause is the GPS collapsing everyone onto the same coordinates due to poor signals. I don't trust the locations of these (3) notes. Apart from the water stream note which can be armchaired, this could easily become an area sear...
82026-02-06 08:56commentedkingkingHKMy guess: Notice that all three notes are made with maps.me, and one of them mentions "poi: landuse-forest". Using overpass to look at the osm data at the time, we see that the forest is https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4508992 , and the location of the three notes is roughly at the centre of the forest. My guess is that when maps.me creates...
92026-04-09 13:08commentedkingkingHKBy now, I/we have seen enough cases of maps.me placing notes at centroids of large polygons that this note can be safely assumed to be the same. A note without a (correct) location is practically unactionable; @vectorial8192 do you support closing this note?
102026-04-09 16:22commentedvectorial8192Yeah, let's close this. Above mentioned, we can locate several features nearby (albeit kinda far away) which matches the description of this note. If future guys discover something new then they can add note (or even do OSM edit directly).
112026-04-10 12:45closedkingkingHKThen, closing.
5123432 (iD)12026-01-09 16:54openedvectorial8192todo: this section of Route 2 probably should not have toll information.
22026-01-10 03:14closedkingkingHKIt should as it can only be accessed from EHC. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/11180794
32026-01-10 04:29reopenedvectorial8192
42026-01-10 04:31commentedvectorial8192However: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/799005738 this has no tolls. My interpretation of OSM data meaning is that, if I am traveling on Route 2 here, I have to pay toll twice, which is wrong. First toll section is the EHC itself. Second toll section is this.
52026-01-10 05:04commentedkingkingHKI quote https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:toll > In any case `toll=yes` should be used on any section of road where a toll must be paid to access it. This supports tagging toll information on this section of Kwun Tong Bypass. Maybe we can do `toll:lanes=` for https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/799005738. Precedent see e.g. https://www.open...
62026-01-10 09:18commentedvectorial8192tbh sounds like "consequential mapping". Need not even do `toll:lanes=` imo. I see this https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/799005738 is outside of tunnel area. Then, this section of Route 2 should be toll-free. In the off chance traffic is temporarily redirected onto this section of Route 2 (e.g. traffic accident) they pay no tolls here.
72026-01-11 04:04commentedkingkingHKI don't get your point. Are you trying to say that if a toll road shares a cross-section with a non-toll road then it isn't a toll road? If tagging `toll=` on roads that can't be accessed without paying a toll is "consequential mapping" (I don't know what you mean by this tbh), then what is `toll=` for? > I see this way/799005738 is outside of tun...
82026-01-11 11:37commentedvectorial8192I may have missed synonyms, but afaik I coined the term "consequential mapping" in the past few years. Basically, this attempts to describe a situation where features are getting tags and information not because of themselves, but because of something other than themselves. For example, if the right side road is a bus terminus, then creating "cann...
92026-01-11 12:26commentedkingkingHKWouldn't tagging toll information for and only for the tunnel area be "consequential mapping" as well, as you are basing it on whether "some other feature" (in the case, tunnel area) exists? And as I said, what will do if a non-tunnel area is tolled? Imo whether a road is tolled or not is a property of its own, and not a consequence of anything. E...
102026-01-11 16:53commentedvectorial8192imo `lit=yes` is not consequential because currently OSM streetlamps (and other lighting features) cannot specify which OSM features are being lit by them. I was preparing for a longer response on what `toll=*` really is, but then I suddenly noticed: e.g., https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37669889 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/111048502 b...
112026-01-12 07:51commentedKovoschizHammer Hill Rd off-slip seems an editing omission. You shouldn't assume it must be perfect.
122026-01-12 08:07commentedkingkingHKYeah, @vectorial8192 I don't know why you assumed that existing data must be perfect with no inaccuracies or omissions (if it were we as editors would not need to exist in the first place...). You can extend the tagging yourself if you notice it is missing. I have done it before https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1341301696/history/3 so have you ht...
132026-01-14 03:07commentedvectorial8192Socratic method. I will elaborate later, but my theme is that, for the toll tag, it should match the exact area and not do the "continue until junction" rule.
142026-01-14 03:53commentedkingkingHKI will patiently wait for your elaboration, but just as a reminder my point is that "the exact area" is identical to "continue until next junction".
152026-01-14 07:56commentedvectorial8192I will early-hint that my "exact area" is different from "continue until junction".
162026-03-13 04:42closedJosephfunny202603131237_
172026-03-13 06:03reopenedkingkingHK
182026-03-13 06:03commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
192026-04-09 13:38commentedkingkingHK@vectorial8192 reminder that this note exists and is awaiting your elaboration; it would be nice if you would find/recover/take a look at your drafts and give your point when you are ready. (No need to rush, but seeing you are recovering your Sau Mau Ping Road drafts I thought I should probably remind you to deal with this too)
202026-04-09 16:19commentedvectorial8192Indeed. I often lose focus. My plan was to discuss this first, but it seems we can discuss SMP side first instead.
2337702 (iD)12020-09-06 14:33opened厕所位"廁所" POI name: 大欖郊野公園 Tai Lam Country Park POI types: boundary-national_park OSM data version: 2020-07-14T11:22:37Z #mapsme
22026-04-09 13:04closedkingkingHKAbsolutely nothing on aerial imagery, this area is also so remote and hilly it does not make sense to build a toilet here. This is probably just yet another case of maps.me placing notes at the centroids of large polygons, so this is essentially a note without a location, thus unactionable. Closing
5213189 (iD)12026-03-21 03:22openedSpeed limit missing report. Suggested limit: Unknown km/h Location: 22.375450388960736, 113.96111385596463 Reported via Speed Defense System app.
22026-03-23 11:57commentedvectorial8192Country default speed limit. We already documented that. However, what is "Speed Defense System app"?
32026-04-05 07:27commentedkingkingHKWe can still add `maxspeed=50` for the weaker data consumers. We have talked about this on Discord before, although that discussion ended with seemingly no consensus.
42026-04-07 13:11commentedvectorial8192Concern: logistics/maintenance and scope creep. If we do it for this street, then why not this other street, and the street in the next district, etc, and then we will have to do it for the entire Hong Kong. That's not something humanly doable. My personal rule is to only do it for numbered highways and roads with no/few traffic lights. Those are...
52026-04-07 13:40commentedkingkingHKTbf the same argument ("while we are here, might as well also do it") can be used on any improvement as you said elsewhere; if we are not allowed to improve something while ignoring something else then we will never get anything done. I think the other concerns are already addressed in Discord in December? (#hongkong/maxspeed)
62026-04-08 03:24commentedvectorial8192Re "while we are here [...]", correct. Then, it doesn't need a note for tracking. Just do it. Re Discord discussions, it's so long ago I forgot the conclusion. I got several things going on, and this doesn't fit my personal style, so I will not do it. If kingking you are here, then I will just keep this note open but will unsubscribe.
72026-04-08 10:12commentedkingkingHKThe conclusion of the Discord discussion is that adding `maxspeed=50` to roads without thinking is not a net detriment. Re just do it, yes, we can just do it (I didn't open this note). You can choose to not do it if it does not fit your personal style, but it fits my style so I will do it, then close this note. You may unsubscribe.
82026-04-08 11:56closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/181045513 ; closing.
5239843 (iD)12026-04-08 04:16openedTommy Lo"102A" OSM snapshot date: 2026-03-10T00:09:11Z POI has no name POI types: wheelchair-yes highway-elevator #organicmaps android 2026.03.11-12-Google
22026-04-08 06:52closedkingkingHKDupe https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5239740
5238504 (iD)12026-04-07 07:09openedMateusz Koniecznyhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1245463436/history has bus = private|yes|yes Was it supposed to be bus:lanes ? And be per-lane tagging? (though lanes=1 would make no sense then - is marking it as a separate carriageway, physically separate from main road correct?)
22026-04-07 08:56closedKovoschizSeems editing mistake from upstream section. Fixed.
5214761 (iD)12026-03-22 07:25openedvectorial8192concern: 2x Yuk Po Court (should be multipolygon relation?)
22026-04-05 09:33closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180887294 ; closing.
5227994 (iD)12026-03-31 17:04openedvectorial8192todo: Station is too small / wrong place.
22026-04-01 10:54commentedvectorial8192The shape is fixed with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180715131 The next step is to review the irl usage of the Mong Kok siding and then clean up the relations.
32026-04-02 08:06commentedvectorial8192Looking at the MTR website timetables, it can be inferred there is a (new) railway service from Mong Kok to Lok Ma Chau. This very likely replaces the (now discontinued) "Mong Kok to Lo Wu" service. This is documented as https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/20401317 .
42026-04-05 07:57closedvectorial8192As we cleaned up the deprecated railway services and patched the East Rail mainline relations, it is done. Therefore, resolving.
4577980 (iD)12025-01-06 09:56openedvectorial8192Abandoned railway information is very debatable since it can no longer be observed IRL; it has been fully deconstructed (except for a tiny section as an abandoned railway bridge), and should be removed.
22025-01-08 08:08commentedKovoschizThis is debated, but a trackbed or strip of land qualifies as `=abandoned` for what's acceptable. Besides the bridge and Yau King Ln, there's actually embankments left, and some cut slopes seem unmodified.
32025-01-08 12:09commentedvectorial8192The trackbeds is most probably all gone, but not sure about the embankments; my working theory is that the CUHK Campus Circuit North ate up some of the old embankments, and so in practice the abandoned railway is not observable.
42025-10-06 02:14commentedHenryEKthe trackbeds are entirely gone. this was done around 1996 when reclaimation reformed tolo harbour front there is almost no sections of abandoned track still left untouched in hong kong
52025-10-06 02:16commentedHenryEKfrankly even though you say the embankment is enough to keep this abandoned railway thing, it would be like adding "abandoned building" role to something just because the foundation ruins are present, instead of marking them as ruins
62025-10-06 04:05commentedHenryEKi checked every former line of track i know, and theyre all present on the map as features despite not having any sort of indication of their former presence i dont know about you but you know maybe stuff that literally doesnt exist on the map should not exist on the map?
72025-10-06 05:14commentedKovoschiz`railway=abandoned` has a different meaning from `building=` + `abandoned=yes`
82025-10-06 05:47commentedvectorial8192I will only add that in OSM, there seems to exist a British-culture-inspired effort to treat railway features differently than other non-railway features.
92025-10-06 06:19commentedHenryEKbut u do understand what i mean right? i mean for the sha tau kok railway which was dismantled over 90 years ago, its still added onto the map theres like no trace of it besides a few milestones and a station
102025-10-06 14:29commentedvectorial8192@seurish I get what you are trying to say (that's why I opened this note), but so far I have seen the argument of "it helps understand how things are like this today". Extending on this, there are relations in OSM that will likely never happen (see KCR's Northern Loop; and the LRT Sam Shing hypothetical tracks drawn by myself). I am thinking, pe...
112025-10-06 15:00commentedkingkingHK@seurish Well, re Sha Tau Kok Railway, I would just like to point out that the addition was not without disagreements: see Kovoschiz's comment on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/145944753
122025-10-09 04:30commentedKovoschizRoads, paths, and embankments qualify. So both can be examined.
132025-10-12 06:16commentedHenryEKso its just gonna stay like this then?
142026-02-09 14:09commentedkingkingHK1. You can actually see an embankment right east of Cheung Tai Road. 2. Government copyrighted maps say the cuttings west of the bridge still follow the curve of the railway (which is different from Yau King Lane); we can easily do a survey to verify this. 3. If you toggle on older imagery from before the CUHK stuff were built (which is not too lon...
152026-02-23 09:54commentedkingkingHKIf no counter-argument in a few weeks I will be closing this note as "nothing to do here". I am also planning to delete Wo Hop Shek Branch as no traces remain, and change Sha Tau Kok Railway to `=abandoned` (but probably need to redraw it as it is glued to many still-existing features, which afaik is wrong).
162026-02-24 12:55commentedKovoschizI had planned to do Sha Tau Kok branch. Need to check what side of the road it's on.
172026-02-24 13:17commentedKovoschizGlued to roadway is wrong, as it's not on the road. But sidewalk is fine, if that's where it's really on.
182026-02-24 14:14commentedkingkingHKI had thought about sketching it from old maps/aerial imagery. But they are not clear enough to show which side of the road it is on. I also found this pic: https://i0.wp.com/www.wetoasthk.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/sha-tau-kok-railway-spur-line-branch-station-at-Fanling.jpg which seems to show it is on the south-east of the road. (Also knowing...
192026-02-25 13:10commentedHenryEKGSGS3868 shows the STK branch as being present on the right side of STK road until crossing over (possibly a level crossing) near Wong Hang Au (https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4990468861) Also seems to be the case for aerial photography around 1924
202026-02-25 13:40commentedkingkingHKYes, but it also shows the railway being parallel to the road beyond Shek Chung Au, which is not true according to 1924 aerials and still-existing embankments, leading me to question its trust-worthiness.
212026-02-26 11:15commentedHenryEKI would suggest you just map the very obvious part (past Wong Hang Au) and leave the other part blank for the time being then. From what I can see in the aerials theres a tiny mark on the road where it looks like the route crosses but it could also just be coincidental
222026-03-04 08:11commentedkingkingHKWo Hop Shek Branch see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179336974
232026-03-07 09:46commentedkingkingHKSha Tau Kok Branch see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179482107
242026-04-05 07:29closedkingkingHKNo disagreements for over a month, then nothing to do here; closing.
5043056 (iD)12025-11-08 08:19openedWright OneCLP substation
22026-01-09 11:21commentedvectorial8192Do you have more info for this? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1078782121 this describes the land as a "construction site for a future data centre". It seems extremely unlikely there would be a power substation right at this place, or perhaps this intends to describe a new substation to be built together with the data centre.
32026-02-02 07:41commentedkingkingHKIndeed there is a power substation here, seemingly built with the data centre.
42026-02-15 12:05commentedvectorial8192Then, where is this new substation relative to this construction site?
52026-02-15 12:21commentedkingkingHKIt looks integrated into the building enough that I can't tell where it starts/ends exactly, but it's mainly on the On Chuen Street side.
62026-03-14 09:51commentedvectorial8192Earlier I have received some info from @kingkingHK regarding this. In this case, because it really is integrated, we can just place a node and tag it as a substation. Side note: I just didn't know enough, but I was surprised to know some data centres are built with a dedicated transformer station.
72026-04-02 15:13closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180773440 ; closing.
5098788 (iD)12025-12-20 13:48openedkingkingHKAre https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/515864719 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2404144136 duplicates?
22026-01-25 07:52commentedvectorial8192More context: This https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2406459615 points to this https://www.ylsyk.edu.hk/ , which seems embedded into the church.
32026-03-29 15:30commentedvectorial8192By survey, seems like a multi-purpose premise. On holidays this is a church, and on other days this is a kindergarten. The position of the kindergarten node indicates the entrance to the kindergarten.
42026-04-02 11:19closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180762485 ; hopefully I got it right. Closing.
5218722 (iD)12026-03-25 02:04openedvectorial8192They say this area will somehow be completed soon, but satellite imagery does not show anything obvious or useful.
22026-03-27 08:50commentedkingkingHKHighly doubt it will be completed soon; I went there a few months ago and there were no visible buildings in the phase 2 area besides the PTI.
32026-03-27 16:15commentedvectorial8192That's the fun part. How come it is "nearly complete" when there is only a PTI in the middle of the construction yard? How would this PTI work (i.e. road entrance)? I really have no idea. But they say something may happen in April so we may monitor the situation. This can potentially be checked together with https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5208...
42026-03-28 09:36commentedkingkingHKDo you have any source to support that Phase 2 will be completed soon?
52026-03-31 15:04commentedvectorial8192e.g. see https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1493103292 I don't have the energy to monitor this, but I will continue to listen to this. I simply do not understand how it can be considered "complete" when it's obvious that the land is still an early WIP. OSM data must be missing something, which I will wait for others to elaborate/explain.
62026-04-01 03:00commentedkingkingHKYes, the PTI building has been completed but the residential buildings aren't. This is not unbelievable; the PTI building should be quicker and easier to build, and should be open at the same time as Phase 1 so that the Phase 1 residents can use it. That's what aerial imagery and existing osm data shows.
72026-04-01 04:50commentedvectorial8192I should clarify myself. The key missing piece is the access roads towards this PTI building, because aerial imagery doesn't show this, and at first glance it's entirely plausible for the access to come from any of the four cardinal directions. Can't have access inside a construction area; then, how come there is access to this?
82026-04-01 14:15commentedkingkingHKCoincidentally someone made a changeset very recently: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180695155 Does this resolve your concern about access roads?
92026-04-02 09:33closedvectorial8192Then that's good. At least now it's clear the access is at Long Tin Road. There may be issues for the "implementation details" of the PTI but that would just be part of the usual OSM workflow. Resolving.
5209786 (iD)12026-03-18 14:33openedThere is a building here.
22026-03-19 02:30commentedvectorial8192If you are referring to the square thing on satellite imagery, then it's probably just a roof.
32026-04-02 08:40commentedvectorial8192Looking closer, it's really a building.
42026-04-02 08:40closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180755773 ; closing.
5227109 (iD)12026-03-31 07:23openedvectorial8192todo/issue: e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10978965209 ...?!
22026-03-31 15:01closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180678612 ; closing.
5224402 (iD)12026-03-29 11:56openedpopmolly49s
22026-03-30 07:05closedKovoschizosm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise used...
5034343 (iD)12025-11-02 14:16openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22026-03-29 11:15closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180577823 ; closing.
5178297 (iD)12026-02-23 13:09openedawhchkWhere does the name "Lo Wu Classification Yard" come from? I've only ever heard of it referred to as "Lo Wu Marshalling Yard" (after it was no longer a freight yard).
22026-03-04 11:57commentedvectorial8192I think it's a mapping mistake. Lo Wu "Classification" exists as a firing range https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/187627328 .
32026-03-04 17:57commentedKovoschiz@vectorial8192 You are misunderstanding the mistake, it's the terminology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_yard
42026-03-05 04:51commentedvectorial8192Then, the existing name is a descriptive name, and is still somehow a mapping mistake.
52026-03-28 17:11closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180551326 ; closing.
5063775 (iD)12025-11-22 14:30openedvectorial8192Re note https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5056582 , see whether this Saigon Street becomes "eastbound only" later.
22025-11-30 12:48commentedkingkingHKAs of yesterday (2025-11-29) it's still oneway westbound, but just in case it changes in the future, I will leave this note open until the nearby works are complete, presumably when the Central Kowloon Bypass opens.
32026-01-02 22:00closedbpaz709394
42026-01-03 02:40reopenedkingkingHK
52026-01-03 02:40commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
62026-01-17 08:03commentedkingkingHKOk, it really is oneway eastbound now...
72026-01-17 08:53commentedkingkingHKWait, I think I made a mistake. Need to recheck.
82026-01-17 11:19closedkingkingHKNevermind, it is still oneway westbound. Somehow, I messed up my sense of direction. Nothing to do; closing.
92026-01-18 15:02reopenedvectorial8192
102026-01-18 15:03commentedvectorial8192https://www.td.gov.hk/en/traffic_notices/index_id_83986.html It seems it's lasting longer than expected. We can recheck this later.
112026-03-11 15:49commentedvectorial8192It's time.
122026-03-16 14:19commentedkingkingHKIt's delayed again until 22 March...
132026-03-26 14:53commentedvectorial8192It seems the arrangement is over.
142026-03-27 08:41closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180490726 ; closing.
5034338 (iD)12025-11-02 14:14openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22026-03-25 02:28commentedvectorial8192As it turns out, this is a single-purpose building. Then, it's very easy.
32026-03-25 02:36closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180383736 ; closing.
5215002 (iD)12026-03-22 11:32openedAngus Lee"Tachinomi" OSM snapshot date: 2026-03-10T00:09:11Z POI has no name POI types: amenity-bbq #organicmaps ios 2026.03.11-12-ios
22026-03-23 16:49closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5215003#
5214998 (iD)12026-03-22 11:30openedAngus Lee"Closed." The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-03-10T00:09:11Z POI has no name POI types: amenity-restaurant #organicmaps ios 2026.03.11-12-ios
5214733 (iD)12026-03-22 06:20opened7799388"пик Виктория" OSM snapshot date: 2026-03-10T00:09:11Z POI has no name POI types: building man_made-tower-communication #organicmaps android 2026.03.11-12-Huawei
22026-03-22 07:58closedkingkingHKGoogle translate: "Victoria Peak" Then, note is not helpful, closing.
5177854 (iD)12026-02-23 06:47openedvectorial8192Chi Tin Street I vaguely remember this will become a public road as part of the Lam Yat House works?
22026-03-22 05:34closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180233757 ; closing.
5034332 (iD)12025-11-02 14:12openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22026-02-02 07:54commentedkingkingHKIndeed there is a Family Medicine Clinic here.
32026-03-21 07:41commentedvectorial8192We do have a FMC here, plus some other stuff.
42026-03-21 14:29closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180210490 ; closing.
5203129 (iD)12026-03-13 13:25openedkingkingHKSee https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179758941 , check latest state of the bus stop
22026-03-21 12:12closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180204953 ; closing.
5198573 (iD)12026-03-10 00:32openedherbertkwong"Building name changed to Telecom Digital Tower since 2023" OSM snapshot date: 2026-02-16T20:35:12Z POI name: 宏開工業大廈 Wider Industrial Building POI types: landuse-industrial #organicmaps android 2026.02.20-1-Google
22026-03-13 04:40closedJosephfunny202603131237_
32026-03-13 06:02reopenedkingkingHK
42026-03-13 06:02commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
52026-03-21 11:59closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180204079 ; closing.
5213340 (iD)12026-03-21 07:23openedAngus Lee"Not inside. Outside tennis court." The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-03-10T00:09:11Z POI has no name POI types: amenity-drinking_water #organicmaps ios 2026.03.11-12-ios
5213338 (iD)12026-03-21 07:23openedAngus Lee"Closed." The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-03-10T00:09:11Z POI has no name POI types: amenity-cafe #organicmaps ios 2026.03.11-12-ios
5213339 (iD)12026-03-21 07:23openedAngus Lee"Nothing there. Just a white wall." The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-03-10T00:09:11Z POI has no name POI types: tourism-artwork #organicmaps ios 2026.03.11-12-ios
5213337 (iD)12026-03-21 07:23openedAngus Lee"Closed." The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-03-10T00:09:11Z POI name: Po's atelier POI types: amenity-cafe #organicmaps ios 2026.03.11-12-ios
5213336 (iD)12026-03-21 07:23openedAngus Lee"Closed." The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-03-10T00:09:11Z POI has no name POI types: amenity-cafe #organicmaps ios 2026.03.11-12-ios
5210960 (iD)12026-03-19 13:12opened1
22026-03-20 02:43closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
5210563 (iD)12026-03-19 05:05openedAlisonlui2
22026-03-19 07:35closedKovoschizosm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise used...
5210559 (iD)12026-03-19 04:55openedAlisonlui1
22026-03-19 05:06closedkingkingHKPLEASE don't use notes for personal uses unrelated to mapping.
5209358 (iD)12026-03-18 07:11openedAlisonluistarting point
22026-03-18 07:23closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
32026-03-19 04:16reopenedvectorial8192
42026-03-19 04:19closedvectorial8192https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes > It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. > Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise used in OpenStreetMap. Do not create OSM notes for private usages. (Are you planning a hiking trip?) Do them outside of OSM...
5190973 (iD)12026-03-05 01:51openedLocation of TMA
22026-03-06 11:46commentedkingkingHK...does anyone know what "TMA" is?
32026-03-19 02:44closedkingkingHKMeaning is unclear; closing.
5208077 (iD)12026-03-17 09:09openedKAM7201TM-250249
22026-03-17 09:10commentedKAM7201TM-250249
32026-03-17 09:10closedKAM7201
42026-03-17 09:11reopenedKAM7201
52026-03-19 02:44closedkingkingHKMeaning is unclear; closing.
5177281 (iD)12026-02-22 16:22openedvectorial8192todo: Consider Nullah Road -> Prince Edward Road East -> Tung Choi Street. Is this allowed/disallowed? Check lane markings, consider traffic, etc.
22026-02-23 02:27commentedkingkingHKIt's dashed line, so yes. https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=22.324214499494&lng=114.16963786754&z=17&pKey=385996312604216&focus=photo&x=0.485 There's also a traffic signal upstream, so there should be times where the traffic flow is low enough to cut 4 lanes in ~75 meters. And then of course at night with little traffic this would not be a concer...
32026-03-05 13:52commentedkingkingHKI am 99.9999% sure it is allowed; if no comments in a few weeks I will just change the driveway to `=unclassified` and close this note,
42026-03-05 15:21commentedvectorial8192I intend to fix this myself. I have a feeling I might have misjudged/misunderstood the related geometries.
52026-03-18 14:50commentedvectorial8192By survey, while this is physically connected, there is a turn restriction which prevents direct crossing. Vehicles from the inner streets must use the previously-discussed "driveway" for through traffic. I decided to do a curve here, both to avoid visual confusion (e.g. "should can go through this!"), and because it really should be curved to mat...
62026-03-18 14:58closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180064102 ; closing.
5178492 (iD)12026-02-23 15:13openedvectorial8192https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10777311726 node was ejected out; is this node still valid/exists?
22026-02-24 02:10commentedkingkingHKIt seems like the entire `building:part=` was dragged. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/153504633
32026-03-18 14:16commentedvectorial8192Can't find this irl in this hood.
42026-03-18 14:19closedvectorial8192An attempt was made to fix the building parts via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180062125 . Resolving.
5209369 (iD)12026-03-18 07:16openedAlisonlui黃泥墩水塘
22026-03-18 07:24closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
5209367 (iD)12026-03-18 07:14openedAlisonlui千島湖
22026-03-18 07:23closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
5209366 (iD)12026-03-18 07:14openedAlisonlui休息點
22026-03-18 07:23closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
5209361 (iD)12026-03-18 07:13openedAlisonlui麥理浩徑第10段
22026-03-18 07:23closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
5209359 (iD)12026-03-18 07:12openedAlisonlui掃管笏村路
22026-03-18 07:23closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
5177073 (iD)12026-02-22 13:31openedvectorial8192todo: Improve data quality from aerial imagery
22026-02-22 14:11commentedkingkingHKThis is a very general description. Can you elaborate on what improvements you expect?
32026-02-22 14:56commentedvectorial8192e.g. alignment, features, etc.
42026-03-12 06:31commentedkingkingHK@vectorial8192 I suppose you intend to fix this note yourself, given that you appears to have visited this place a while ago?
52026-03-12 06:32commentedkingkingHK*this note and https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5177084
62026-03-12 13:23commentedvectorial8192Correct, but you may notice my current focus is Ma On Shan. I will revisit this Soon™.
72026-03-17 14:45closedvectorial8192This side LGTM; closing.
5206976 (iD)12026-03-16 11:04openedvectorial8192todo: lanes vs junction sliproad vs physical separation
22026-03-17 13:42closedKovoschizMust have forgotten about it somehow https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/180008435
5199155 (iD)12026-03-10 14:29openedvectorial8192Consider https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1486486342 Should this be a pedestrian area (`highway=footway` with `area=yes`) or should this be a footway area (`area:highway=footway`) ?
22026-03-11 17:26commentedKovoschizWhy are you starting a new discussion again https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179531317
32026-03-12 05:38commentedvectorial8192new note -> more awareness -> more opinion/perspectives. I see this is working very well.
42026-03-12 07:22commentedKovoschizI'm aware of that post. Was watching the discussion.
52026-03-16 13:08closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179951258 ; closing.
5159218 (iD)12026-02-08 05:56openedprivate access, need modify road property #OsmAnd
22026-03-08 16:27commentedvectorial8192My vibes think this could be an XY problem. The upper section https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/716701652 is already access=private so we already have this info somehow. This is the "X problem". And yet, if Anon is asking for more access=private coverage, one likely reason is that someone is trying to go up Braemar Hill through here and realize i...
32026-03-09 03:49commentedkingkingHKI feel like you are over-complicating things. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6731958222 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7276640163 both have `access=private`, so the service roads between them are also logically `access=private`, but aren't tagged as such in OSM. This note is complaining about that.
42026-03-13 07:53commentedvectorial8192That's a simpler interpretation that also works. Then, this note is easy to deal with.
52026-03-13 13:30closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179811304 ; closing.
5178576 (iD)12026-02-23 16:39openedFent ThanakonHotel
22026-03-13 07:44closedvectorial8192There are multiple hotels / guest houses near here. Example https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4082865125 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13479211301 Hopefully these are something you may be looking for.
5123548 (iD)12026-01-09 19:37openedawhchk* The playground is mostly over the rooftop of KTSPS, but a section closest to Wai Yip Street is outside of the building and close to ground level. It seems the outline of the eastern part of the building is wrong. * The playground is part of Cha Kwo Ling Promenade, but confusingly some information boards also has the name "茶果嶺海濱公園�...
22026-01-20 14:57commentedvectorial8192This https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/16555245 already has the name Cha Kwo Leng Promenade.
32026-01-20 15:05commentedvectorial8192I can see the situation is complicated with the following: - Went there before, the building actually gently slopes to ground level, making it difficult to determine actual shape - The building is not actually a park; the park is at rooftop of building
42026-01-20 15:08commentedvectorial8192Shape improved with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177480531 The deck is now mapped as https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13452291567 Not sure how to do the pet access part; will leave open for now.
52026-01-22 08:46commentedKovoschiz`name=茶果嶺海濱公園(園景平台) Cha Kwo Ling Promenade (Landscaped Deck)` should be wrong. That's a label for the part inside. Brackets should be presumed not proper names, only descriptive. Cf Scheduled https://www.elegislation.gov.hk/hk/cap132?xpid=ID_1438402664274_001
62026-03-13 04:42closedJosephfunny202603131237_
72026-03-13 06:03reopenedkingkingHK
82026-03-13 06:03commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
5202078 (iD)12026-03-12 16:58openedTingHFTWW
22026-03-12 16:58closedTingHF
4025846 (iD)12023-12-13 03:40opened盛水式加水機 2部 [飲用水] 洗手間下一層
22026-01-03 06:01closedbpaz709394
32026-01-03 06:04reopenedvectorial8192
42026-01-03 09:33commentedkmpoppeThis note was part of a mass-closure without any comment. It was subsequently reopened, as it's unclear if the problem mentioned still persists.
52026-03-12 12:00commentedkingkingHKCorrect
2046829 (iD)12020-01-05 08:03openedWright One此入口已封
22021-05-19 03:38closedSylvester77
32021-05-19 03:39reopenedSylvester77
42025-08-21 18:23commentedvectorial8192Another path nearby was marked as inaccessible https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/154333345 ; related?
52026-01-03 05:57closedbpaz709394
62026-01-03 06:04reopenedvectorial8192
72026-01-03 09:33commentedkmpoppeThis note was part of a mass-closure without any comment. It was subsequently reopened, as it's unclear if the problem mentioned still persists.
82026-02-06 09:03commentedvectorial8192While reading feature history, another note was mentioned https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2046828 which has highly similar ID; both notes are likely created almost at the same time, and yet only one of them was resolved.
92026-03-08 12:29commentedkingkingHKBy survey, both of them are `access=discouraged` with barriers, but one may still (easily) hop over the barrier, and many still do, as evidenced by the significant vegetation loss along the trail. I will make a changeset soon.
102026-03-09 17:17commentedKovoschiz`=discouraged` , or `=no` ?
112026-03-10 03:11commentedkingkingHKThere is a sign by the AFCD: "Protect the Vegeation; Please Stay on Trail; Do not Take Shortcut", which should not carry legal effects. Afaik there's no law prohibiting the creation or use of desire paths.
122026-03-11 17:32commentedKovoschizIt's not prohibited explicitly. But technically it seems damaging plants is illegal.
3304147 (iD)12022-08-07 17:05openedti-loWhich parameters for museum and subject ? "showcasing information about the Solar System, cosmology, and spaceflight" as of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Space_Museum https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=spaceflight#values https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=astronomy#values https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=aeros...
22025-02-11 06:22closedCypp0847Amended to science. However "subject" should be sufficient to describe without the use of "faculty"
32025-02-11 15:19reopenedti-lo
42025-02-11 15:20commentedti-loSeems to generic to me. The question was (also) whether several values could apply besides https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/museum=spaceflight
52025-02-11 15:23commentedti-lo"faculty" only applies to universities but similar values are used, such as https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/faculty=astronomy | https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/museum=astronomy
62025-02-11 15:28commentedti-loThe correct value might be museum=spaceflight;astronomy, also see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Amuseum, should also cover "Solar System, cosmology" ?
72025-02-11 17:38commentedKovoschizThere are only 3+1 `spaceflight` , and 4 `astronomy` . Neither seems dominant. I would suspect some `=aerospace` may be mainly space-related, and obviously many aviation ones don't have a spaceflight showcase. So it doesn't perfect fit either. `=aerospace` has been mass added before https://taghistory.raifer.tech/?#***/museum/aerospace I don't und...
82025-02-11 17:40commentedKovoschiz`museum=science` could yet be fine if `museum=` is treated as a generic category. But it doesn't have enough work done on it. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:museum#Untitled_1 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:tourism=museum#On_subtypes_and_topics_/_museum_subjects
92025-02-11 17:43commentedKovoschizBoth https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/faculty#values and https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/department#values aren't widely agreed on, and are being polluted by the faculty and department names. `department=` has further issue with `=store_section` for `=department_store` and `=supermarket` . There's no definite reason to match with `muse...
102025-02-11 17:43commentedKovoschizhttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:museum_type#Not_very_clear
112025-02-11 21:39commentedti-loPlease try whether this description works for you : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:museum:type%3Dscience
122025-02-12 17:59commentedKovoschizNo. `*type` never works. It's a meaningless suffix.
132025-02-12 22:24commentedti-loSeems to work in a bunch of cases https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:*:type
142026-02-06 15:05commentedvectorial8192I am thinking perhaps `museum=science` with `subject=astronomy` or `museum:subject=astronomy`. Cosmology is a subset of astronomy. Astronomy should automatically imply "spaceflight"; can't have serious (space) observations without rocket-delivered satellites and telescopes.
152026-03-11 09:53closedar_on_hk
162026-03-11 10:07reopenedkingkingHK
5195502 (iD)12026-03-08 09:16openedvectorial8192todo: alignment
22026-03-11 07:34closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179678431 ; closing.
5197298 (iD)12026-03-09 09:46openedawhchkShould "roads" inside the Road Safety Town be mapped?
22026-03-09 17:18closedKovoschizYou can always do that. Similar to driving course.
2690777 (iD)12021-05-30 04:30opened懸崖洞
22026-01-03 05:58closedbpaz709394
32026-01-03 06:04reopenedvectorial8192
42026-01-03 09:33commentedkmpoppeThis note was part of a mass-closure without any comment. It was subsequently reopened, as it's unclear if the problem mentioned still persists.
52026-02-05 14:37closedvectorial8192There may be cliffs here, but I don't think there are any "holes" here that could satisfy the description of this note. Meaning is unclear. Therefore, closing.
62026-02-06 02:34reopenedkingkingHK
72026-02-06 02:36commentedkingkingHKI think "hole" is supposed to mean caves? c.f. nearby https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1668864566 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2140236934
82026-03-08 06:29commentedkingkingHKWhile this information is believable, it will probably be difficult to survey this safely due to the cliffs and the lack of paths, according to government maps.
92026-03-08 16:37commentedvectorial8192I mean... If you really want, you can get a drone to do that for you, but you got a loicense for that maet?
102026-03-09 04:15commentedkingkingHKI would rather just map the cliff and be done with it. Also, legally speaking, this area is located inside a drone no-fly zone, due to the low-air economy regulatory sandbox whatever. Practically speaking, no one would notice, but I am not buying a drone just for this one note.
5155801 (iD)12026-02-05 14:20openedvectorial8192see https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5115204
22026-03-08 16:39commentedvectorial8192The ultimate original note https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1036042 complains of the following: "The path from 'Lai Tak Tsuen' to 'viewpoint' is impassable and dangerous. Please remove it from the map"
4137978 (iD)12024-03-03 15:44openedAlbert Tam"練靶場" POI name: 大潭郊野公園(鰂魚涌擴建部份) Tai Tam Country Park (Quarry Bay Extension) POI types: boundary-national_park OSM data version: 2020-02-09T04:19:23Z #mapsme
22026-01-03 05:58closedbpaz709394
32026-01-03 06:04reopenedvectorial8192
42026-01-03 09:33commentedkmpoppeThis note was part of a mass-closure without any comment. It was subsequently reopened, as it's unclear if the problem mentioned still persists.
52026-02-05 14:33commentedvectorial8192From online sources, this seems to refer to an abandoned police (training) firing range.
62026-03-08 12:31commentedkingkingHKAbsolutely nothing at the location of this note; this is probably yet another case of maps.me placing notes at centroids of large polygons. It appears that the feature already exists: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7255499200 @vectorial8192 Please take a look and see if you agree that this note is referring to the quoted feature, and close th...
72026-03-08 16:35closedvectorial8192OSMCarto just doesn't render it. I also have no real idea where it could be located, so many thanks for spotting it out, both physically (by negation) and digitally. I don't have any data on me about this location so I can't agree to it; *but* seeing its location matches online textual descriptions, I don't disagree to it. In OSM we trust. There...
5194221 (iD)12026-03-07 11:44openedkingkingHKAre https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/173722555 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1205445683 connected?
5115204 (iD)12026-01-03 06:08openedvectorial8192special note: note https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1036042 is covered by another note; this note is to help with note management.
22026-01-03 08:00closedNeisReviewNo actionable information was provided for editing OpenStreetMap data. Please feel free to reopen this note with more details. #noeditinfo
32026-01-03 08:07reopenedvectorial8192
42026-01-03 08:09commentedvectorial8192Meta-Note: this note helps others to more conveniently notice/click other notes.
52026-03-07 06:33closedkingkingHKAdequately handled with https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5155801 ; closing.
1036042 (iD)12017-06-20 16:58openedRichy_B"The path from 'Lai Tak Tsuen' to 'viewpoint' is impassable and dangerous. Please remove it from the map" POI has no name POI types: landuse-forest OSM data version: 2017-05-11T13:22:09Z #mapsme
22026-01-03 06:02closedbpaz709394
32026-01-03 06:44reopenedkingkingHK
42026-01-03 09:33commentedkmpoppeThis note was part of a mass-closure without any comment. It was subsequently reopened, as it's unclear if the problem mentioned still persists.
52026-02-05 14:18commentedvectorial8192A view point exists near Lai Tak Tsuen as https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1844899403 but this is extremely confusing and suspicious; I feel bad about closing it without survey.
62026-02-06 03:14commentedkingkingHKThe only path that matches the description would be https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1104107657 . At least it is easier to survey there.
72026-02-06 03:45commentedvectorial8192also see https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5155801 for convenience
82026-03-06 10:21commentedkingkingHKThis note is already adequately handled with https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5155801 with a better location; any objections to closing this note and https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5115204 ?
92026-03-06 14:09commentedvectorial8192me no objections. The other guy is probably here for the procedure and will likely not respond.
102026-03-07 06:32closedkingkingHKYeah, the DWG guy is probably comment for formalities only. I don't expect anyone else to see this note. Thus, closing.
5037709 (iD)12025-11-04 12:33openedkingkingHKHas this construction https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/507734827 been finished? The only source seem to be https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2327347 , a note from five years ago. Aerial imagery also does not seem to show any signs of construction.
22026-01-03 06:10closedbpaz709394
32026-01-03 06:46reopenedkingkingHK
42026-01-03 09:33commentedkmpoppeThis note was part of a mass-closure without any comment. It was subsequently reopened, as it's unclear if the problem mentioned still persists.
52026-01-03 10:09commentedvectorial8192Alternatively, there is a chance the construction was quick and was completed while we were not looking. Aerial images are not clear enough to determine whether the rebuilding took place.
62026-01-03 11:25commentedkingkingHKYes, that's why I made this note so that someone in the future can check the current state when they pass by.
72026-03-06 10:43closeddewbhudhew11
82026-03-06 11:44reopenedkingkingHK
92026-03-06 11:44commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
5117986 (iD)12026-01-05 03:15openedkingkingHKThere is no way https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1459714974 is actually 30 degrees steep. (Also, `incline=` should be in percentage, not degrees.)
22026-01-08 06:28commentedvectorial8192Haven't been to this exact area before, but never say never. This "extreme" slope is half believable.
32026-01-08 10:09commentedkingkingHKNot believable imo; it's 30 degrees, not percent. That's 57.7%. Probably can't even stand if it is that steep.
42026-01-19 05:36commentedvectorial8192I will point out that some "sidewalks" in this area are more like "side steps" due to extreme slope, and that "extreme" slopes are somewhat believable. As in, perhaps not really 30 degrees, but more like 20 degrees to 25 degrees, which is still "extreme".
52026-01-19 06:12commentedkingkingHKI would like to point out that 30 degrees is basically the steepness of an escalator/a step without landings. Even the "side steps" still have significant landings (how else would frontage access work?) simply because they aren't that steep. Also, this is a vehicular road. Do you really think vehicles can travel up such a steep slope?
62026-01-27 04:39closedCypp0847Did a quick survey at the site. The incline should be around 10 degree only or at most 15 degree.
72026-01-27 04:41reopenedCypp0847
82026-03-05 12:23commentedkingkingHKIt's actually 10 degrees.
92026-03-05 12:35closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179394604 ; closing.
5191006 (iD)12026-03-05 02:39openedkingkingHKtodo: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4486222689 descriptive name; probably need to change to hail_and_ride role on route relations, which appears to be unmapped.
5036097 (iD)12025-11-03 12:44openedkingkingHKFamily Medicine Clinic
22025-12-13 14:12commentedkingkingHKIndeed there is a family medicine clinic here.
32026-02-23 14:12commentedvectorial8192We do have a FMC here, with some other stuff.
42026-03-03 14:53closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179306051 ; closing.
5034364 (iD)12025-11-02 14:21openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22025-11-02 14:24commentedvectorial8192It seems there might be two such clinics right here?
32025-11-03 13:56commentedkingkingHKNot sure why you think it seems there might be two clinics here, could you please elaborate?
42025-11-14 14:59commentedvectorial8192Basically, I somehow saw 2x Family Medicine Clinics listed in some clinic listing I was looking at. It somehow felt wrong, but one of them should be correct, so someone can check this when they pass by this place.
52025-11-16 07:23commentedkingkingHKJust curious, what clinic list did you use?
62025-11-16 10:31commentedvectorial8192This https://www.ha.org.hk/visitor/ha_visitor_index.asp?Content_ID=200250&Lang=CHIB5&Dimension=100&Parent_ID=10052 The government announcement for the renaming eventually led to this page. Upon rechecking, it seems I might have misread the list... But still, this location is likely to have a Family Medicine Clinic.
72026-02-23 09:50commentedkingkingHKIndeed there is a FMC here.
82026-02-23 14:12commentedvectorial8192We do have a FMC here, with some other stuff.
92026-03-03 14:33closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179305069 ; closing.
5166282 (iD)12026-02-13 17:02openedvectorial8192todo: bad railway curves ------ preliminary vibes indicate that the curves are just plain wrong.
22026-02-14 07:14commentedkingkingHK...didn't you create these curves yourself? Honestly the current curves look good enough, and can't really be improved without e.g. intertial measurements
32026-02-14 07:36commentedvectorial8192Yes, I did draw them. However, sometime after drawing them, when I look at them, I have an indescribable feeling that the curves are just unnatural and therefore wrong. I do have some numbers on my side and then I can crunch the numbers later to see if I am hallucinating or not.
42026-02-26 04:15closedvectorial8192Those are some really unexpected railway curves. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179066259 ; closing.
5157078 (iD)12026-02-06 12:33openedkingkingHKhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1150866494 I think this has opened.
22026-02-06 14:59commentedvectorial8192Can also see if the exit numbering has been updated as well; not sure if this belongs to the MTR or the government.
32026-02-07 03:23commentedkingkingHKI doubt it has been; don't know the why they would.
42026-02-07 03:36commentedkingkingHKOk assuming you thought the new footbridge will affect the number of exits: afaik the existing footbridges belong to the MTR; the new footbridge merely connects between two exits so it should not change the exits, at most https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1150866495 might get a new exit number but I don't think it will be completed any time soon.
52026-02-25 16:13closedvectorial8192Turns out, no ref changes. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/179044665 ; closing.
5036099 (iD)12025-11-03 12:45openedkingkingHKNow that "將軍澳賽馬會普通科門診診所 Tseung Kwan O Jockey Club General Out-patient Clinic" has been renamed to "將軍澳賽馬會家庭醫學診所 Tseung Kwan O Jockey Club Family Medicine Clinic", has there been any changes to the bus stops' naming?
22026-02-23 09:50closedkingkingHKNope. Closing.
5099408 (iD)12025-12-21 05:54openedkingkingHKhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1240353927 construction probably almost finished, according to aerial imagery.
22025-12-25 13:01commentedvectorial8192still pretty raw imo
32026-02-23 09:49commentedkingkingHKConstruction not yet finished, but can make a rough sketch first.
2865034 (iD)12021-09-23 00:56openedThis portion of route is blocked.
22026-02-23 09:48commentedkingkingHKIt is covered in dense vegetation, but definitely not covered by anything.
32026-02-23 09:49commentedkingkingHKnot blocked* sorry
5161910 (iD)12026-02-10 05:11openedvectorial8192junction has fixme: staggered crossing traffic island
22026-02-23 02:31closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178923367 ; closing.
5176553 (iD)12026-02-22 01:01openedokainoveverything mapped here as lvl3 should be lvl6!
22026-02-22 16:11closedKovoschizNo, above-ground counting is used for `level=` , and the actual numbering in `level:ref=`
5176554 (iD)12026-02-22 01:01openedokainovand everything mapped as lvl1 should be 4 accordingly
22026-02-22 16:11closedKovoschizNo, above-ground counting is used for `level=` , and the actual numbering in `level:ref=`
5034337 (iD)12025-11-02 14:14openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22026-02-22 14:09closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178900392 ; closing.
5034352 (iD)12025-11-02 14:17openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22025-12-13 14:10commentedkingkingHKIndeed there is a family medicine clinic here.
32026-02-22 13:41commentedvectorial8192We do have a FMC here with some other stuff.
42026-02-22 13:59closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178899966 ; closing.
5093778 (iD)12025-12-16 13:31openedvectorial8192I see Tuen Mun LRT is elevated. Then, how may passengers access these elevated platforms?
22025-12-16 13:57commentedkingkingHK1. Escalator from ground level 2. Eastbound platform is at the same level and is connected to Tuen Mun MTR Station. I am not sure if passengers can go from the westbound platform to Tuen Mun MTR without going to ground level first, though. IIRC no at-grade crossing across the tracks.
32026-02-21 15:01commentedvectorial8192I now have info
42026-02-21 15:52closedvectorial8192It's complicated. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178865246 ; closing.
5175205 (iD)12026-02-21 02:27openedfliicker关系:multipolygon
22026-02-21 04:23closedkingkingHKYes, there is a multipolygon here. Note is not helpful; closing.
5174782 (iD)12026-02-20 15:57openedfliicker关系
22026-02-21 02:29closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
5034350 (iD)12025-11-02 14:16openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22025-12-13 14:10commentedkingkingHKIndeed there is a family medicine clinic here.
32026-02-20 14:28commentedvectorial8192We do have a FMC here, plus some other stuff.
42026-02-20 14:39closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178822153 ; closing.
5173115 (iD)12026-02-19 08:49openedkingkingHKtodo: new footbridge?
22026-02-20 09:05closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178809016
2218614 (iD)12020-06-05 07:45openedkleeahPublic Transport Routing at Ping Tin to be added.
22022-02-16 14:46commentedAWX4Pls help thx
32022-04-20 22:19closedMPatrick1013
42022-04-20 22:19reopenedMPatrick1013
52026-01-02 22:01closedbpaz709394
62026-01-03 02:41reopenedkingkingHK
72026-01-03 02:41commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
82026-02-19 12:35commentedkingkingHKThe following bus routes call at Ping Tin: 1. KMB 15 (Ping Tin → Hung Hom (Hung Luen Road)) 2. KMB 15 (Hung Hom (Hung Luen Road) → Ping Tin) 3. KMB 15A (Ping Tin → Tsz Wan Shan (North)) 4. KMB 15A (Tsz Wan Shan (North) → Ping Tin) 5. KMB 16 (Ping Tin → Mong Kok (Park Avenue)) 6. KMB 38 (Ping Tin → Kwai Shing (East)) 7. KMB 38 (Kwai Shi...
5133340 (iD)12026-01-18 04:45openedkingkingHKTodo: clean up bus relations after https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/176212586 , see also discussion of https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177303927
22026-02-16 10:47closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178622903 ; closing.
5156486 (iD)12026-02-06 02:58openedkingkingHKI doubt https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/105586327 is really `surface=fine_gravel`.
22026-02-06 05:31commentedvectorial8192https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/105586327/history/3 I will just armchair-change it to be concrete surface. Rough concrete do look like fine gravel.
32026-02-12 16:00commentedvectorial8192On second thought, a more sensible plan is to armchair-change it to have no surface material so that we can return this to StreetComplete for further processing.
42026-02-15 17:12closedvectorial8192Give to StreetComplete. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178591700 ; closing.
5161916 (iD)12026-02-10 05:24openedvectorial8192junction has fixme: turn restrictions
22026-02-11 03:11commentedkingkingHKLooks like it has chevrons, which would mean the turn restrictions do exist.
32026-02-13 16:50commentedvectorial8192At this location, there are two turn restrictions with this fixme. The easier one is "Tai Tong Road cannot u-turn to (self) Tai Tong Road". This is trivially true. The harder one is "Tai Tong Road (roundabout) cannot right-turn to Kiu Hing Road". Normally you cannot cross over double-lines (e.g. no overtaking). The shape is very unique here, but ...
42026-02-14 02:56commentedkingkingHKI went there recently and confirmed that it is chevrons, not double white lines, and afaik chevrons cannot be crossed even for turning right. Interestingly, the chevrons start a bit after the kerb (you can kind of see this on aerial imagery). I can't tell if this is done deliberately to allow vehicles to turn right from Kiu Hing Road, or if the pa...
52026-02-15 17:00closedvectorial8192OK, trusting the chevron observation. Then, resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178591191 ; closing.
5165761 (iD)12026-02-13 08:55openedvectorial8192todo: junction decoration (note: this is intended to be separate from the nearby "split junction" issue)
22026-02-15 10:22commentedvectorial8192Improved with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178574929 . Scope is quite large. Next up is to update the bus relations.
32026-02-15 16:45closedvectorial8192Relations cleaned up via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178590547 ; closing.
5133338 (iD)12026-01-18 04:43openedkingkingHKTodo: clean up bus relations after https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/175908155 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/175908590 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/175908754 , see also discussion of https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177303927
22026-02-15 16:31closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178589878 ; closing.
5161909 (iD)12026-02-10 04:59openedvectorial8192junction has fixme: Tung Chau Street -> Chui Yu Road; can?
22026-02-10 08:24commentedkingkingHKMapillary says can.
32026-02-15 11:53commentedvectorial8192Armchair also thinks can. The way the roads were built, there is a small pocket under West Kowloon Corridor to hold Tung Chau Street -> Chui Yu Road vehicles for a 2-phase signal action. And I did walk past this area before, which resulted in me discovering this pocket, though I forgot about the irl-walking.
42026-02-15 12:00closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178578447 ; closing.
5151410 (iD)12026-02-02 04:45openedvectorial8192needs discussion: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177963900
22026-02-02 04:52commentedvectorial8192the concern is whether "wall to wall connected houses but only 2 in house chain" count as "semi-detached house". See eg 103A and 103B. I think is no. from online picture examples of semi-detached houses, there should have a way for people to reach the backyard without entering the house. if no such method then is just regular rowhouse.
32026-02-02 06:46commentedKovoschizI don't think duplex has such a definition. They are structural only, without regards to sideyard in the lot. It should be further distinguished there, not changed to `=terraced` for this.
42026-02-15 11:17commentedvectorial8192I quote the Wikipedia: > The name distinguishes this style of construction from [...] terraced houses, with a shared wall on both sides. Then, these are indeed semi-detached.
52026-02-15 11:19closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178577044 ; closing.
5043144 (iD)12025-11-08 10:13openedLkwokon賀龍汽車維修中心
22026-02-02 07:53commentedkingkingHKIndeed.
32026-02-15 10:44closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178575756 ; closing.
5161922 (iD)12026-02-10 05:34openedvectorial8192cycle path has fixme: probably ancient schema
22026-02-10 08:16commentedkingkingHKIt seems like the footway wasn't mapped originally, hence `foot=designated` and `segregated=yes` was added to the cycleway to indicate this. Now that we have the footway mapped, I think we can simply remove the fixme.
32026-02-15 10:33closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178575319 ; closing.
5164226 (iD)12026-02-12 05:33openedvectorial8192ref
22026-02-15 10:24closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178575006 ; closing.
5165635 (iD)12026-02-13 07:04openedvectorial8192todo: fix https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178483414
22026-02-15 09:55closedvectorial8192This is really my mistake. Upon a random chance, I suddenly thought it would be good to waive the turn restrictions by "aerial imagery obviousness". Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178574052 ; closing.
5165906 (iD)12026-02-13 10:51openedDaviddylan1WONG CHUK HANG RD
22026-02-14 09:36closedKovoschiz osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general discussion or storing information not otherwise us...
5165581 (iD)12026-02-13 04:13openedAlphaNovember"Now closed." The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-01-25T13:04:34Z POI name: Five Guys POI types: cuisine-burger amenity-fast_food #organicmaps android 2026.01.26-11-Google
22026-02-13 12:00commentedvectorial8192https://restaurants.fiveguys.com.hk/ agrees
5164947 (iD)12026-02-12 14:39openedhong kong disneyland
22026-02-12 17:01closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/377094298 ? osm.wiki/Notes Notes is a core feature of the OpenStreetMap.org website. It enables you to add a comment on the map to assist others in mapping/editing OpenStreetMap. Other users can respond to your notes, for example to ask for additional details if necessary. Please do not use notes for general disc...
5132180 (iD)12026-01-17 05:41openedkingkingHKhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/902497658 etc still under construction?
22026-01-17 08:03commentedkingkingHKSomehow, yes.
32026-01-17 08:16commentedvectorial8192Seems nothing to do here. For some reason there are a bunch of areas in HK that are apparently "completed" but just blocked off as if still "constructing".
42026-02-11 13:44closedvectorial8192Nothing to do here. (For example, another such "unavailable completed" area is at Sun Po Kong Bus Terminus.) Eventually, someone will notice that irl the features become unblocked, and then they can make a follow-up changeset. Closing.
5151351 (iD)12026-02-02 01:31openedAAFmapper"Seems to be gone in favor of Lung Fung Mall" The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2026-01-25T13:04:34Z POI name: 屈臣氏 Watsons POI types: shop-chemist amenity-pharmacy #organicmaps ...
22026-02-11 08:56closedvectorial8192Clarified with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178395234 ; closing.
5159342 (iD)12026-02-08 09:23openedfdjskalfjalwk;fjas;fjaslk
22026-02-09 06:34commentedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
32026-02-10 08:41commentedvectorial8192uh
42026-02-10 12:39closedkingkingHKOops
5160781 (iD)12026-02-09 06:28openedRegal HongKong Hotel
22026-02-09 06:34closedkingkingHKFeature exists as https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/198589969 ; closing.
5160778 (iD)12026-02-09 06:22openedMid-Levels Escalator
22026-02-09 06:34closedkingkingHKFeature already exists; closing.
5150715 (iD)12026-02-01 14:12openedkingkingHKtodo: clean up bus relations after https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/164259073
22026-02-01 14:33commentedvectorial8192um, lgtm?
32026-02-02 04:00commentedkingkingHKBroken: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6607035 https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6607037
42026-02-02 11:13commentedvectorial8192Then, how did you check whether the relations are broken?
52026-02-02 11:49commentedkingkingHK...sorry, do you mean "where is the broken part of the quoted relations" or "how did you notice the relations are broken" or "generally, how to determine if a relation is broken"?
62026-02-02 12:44commentedvectorial8192I presume you knew of a tool where you would type in the relation number and then the tool told you whether the relation was OK? I can roughly see there exists multiple possible ways/tools to "check" relations, and I am unsure which one you may be using. For example, https://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeRelation?relationId=6607037&_noCache=on says t...
72026-02-03 06:35commentedKovoschizThis is not scalable. You should use JOSM when changing to a pair of lines. It may be preferable for you to not do this if you don't fix the routes yourself.
82026-02-03 06:36commentedKovoschizShort pair of lines at islands is not an absolutely strict expectation. It's even often debated when to do it. So it's easier to avoid it.
92026-02-03 15:55commentedvectorial8192My criteria is to split the ways so that we can have a clear mapping of the (staggered) pedestrian crossings. This doesn't happen regularly so I am not too concerned about scalability, though with continuing urbanization, we will find more and more of this "single -> double" case from irl-upgrading signaled crossings. With me starting to know how ...
102026-02-05 15:44commentedvectorial8192Multiple tools report 6607035 (68E) is broken because there is a gap here. This makes sense and very likely my mistake. However, none of them report any problems for 6607037 (68F).
112026-02-06 02:44commentedkingkingHKOk, after rechecking, 68F is really not broken. I apologise for my mistake. Anyway, re checking broken relations, I usually simply use JOSM's relation editor. Your quoted website (https://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeRelation) produces quite a lot of false negatives.
122026-02-08 10:54closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178260481 ; closing.
5156760 (iD)12026-02-06 09:05openedvectorial8192todo: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/674605645 descriptive name; could have tried harder
22026-02-06 11:45commentedkingkingHKWhile we are at it, also fix https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/674605644 , added by the same user in the same changeset.
32026-02-06 14:54closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178191616 . I expect the guys from HKBusFandom to further review the minibus stop/terminus when they feel like it. Closing.
758446 (iD)12016-10-24 00:50openedO Leesmall stream (OSM data version: 2016-09-19T14:38:03Z) #mapsme
22022-01-21 17:24closedkenny leung
32022-01-21 17:24reopenedkenny leung
42026-01-03 11:31closedvectorial8192A stream already exists nearby as https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/323624592 ; I presume this is already done. Therefore, closing.
52026-01-03 11:38reopenedkingkingHK
62026-01-03 11:39commentedkingkingHKOut-of-copyright maps say that there is stream at the exact location of this note that eventually drains into the quoted way. There is really an unmapped stream here.
72026-01-03 17:00commentedvectorial8192Unexpected, but can take a look at them; I think the latest free map is from 1975 as mentioned in Discord.
82026-01-09 15:41commentedvectorial8192It turns out the old map mentioned in Discord does not have data for this area. @kingkingHK may you provide more info?
92026-01-11 04:28commentedkingkingHKI was looking at https://www.hkmaps.hk/viewer.html and selected the "1975.1" map. Now after looking into this deeper, I think the "year n" maps on that website actually means "latest map available by year n" instead of "maps drawn on year n" as government map tiles don't update yearly. Looking at https://www.hkmapservice.gov.hk/OneStopSystem/map-se...
102026-02-05 14:27commentedvectorial8192The online map renderer https://www.hkmaps.hk/viewer.html has a sidebar that can adjust image opacity for map cross-referencing. Not knowing how to overlay this onto "editing software" (um, JOSM?) is imo a non-issue because afaik both iD and JOSM can specify the OSM Carto rendering itself as the "imagery", and then we can do some intense eyeballin...
112026-02-05 14:30commentedvectorial8192I see there is indeed a stream in the old map. Hopefully the stream did not dry up while we were not looking, I ain't surveying this and will trust the old map.
122026-02-06 02:54commentedkingkingHKEventually, with some guidance from Kovoschiz, I figured out how to overlay historical maps onto editing software. But then, I felt like if I am mapping a single missing stream, I might as well map all missing streams in this area, which are there hundreds of, making the changeset too big to complete in a single sitting, hence why it took me so l...
5101282 (iD)12025-12-22 14:30openedvectorial8192todo: share_taxi cannot enter Nam Long Shan Road reinterpret the roads to allow for accurate traffic island mapping (use oneway streets)
22026-01-24 15:01commentedvectorial8192Scope is quite large. Note intent basically done via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177649672 Next step is to adjust the bus relations, etc.
32026-01-26 12:26commentedvectorial8192Work is further improved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177677477
42026-02-05 14:51commentedvectorial8192Eventually, I forgot about this. Followup changeset with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178144291 .
52026-02-05 14:57closedvectorial8192Now, this should be good and resolved. Closing.
5086249 (iD)12025-12-10 15:34openedvectorial8192todo: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6143117229 descriptive name
22026-01-03 05:57closedbpaz709394
32026-01-03 06:05reopenedvectorial8192
42026-01-03 09:33commentedkmpoppeThis note was part of a mass-closure without any comment. It was subsequently reopened, as it's unclear if the problem mentioned still persists.
52026-02-05 14:15closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178142750 ; closing.
5065720 (iD)12025-11-24 08:23openedkingkingHKDoes this https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4349312890 actually exist? Which routes call here?
22025-11-25 14:44commentedvectorial8192could just be green minibuses with some "hail on ride" value (not too familiar with that kind of tagging)
32025-12-03 12:32commentedkingkingHKSee also https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5065723
42026-02-02 07:10commentedvectorial8192By survey, there's nothing here.
52026-02-05 11:09closedvectorial8192Pass-by minibus relations have already configured "hail_and_ride". Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178134772 ; closing.
5116603 (iD)12026-01-04 08:45openedkingkingHKTodo: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13076945683 descriptive name
22026-01-15 14:23commentedkingkingHKAlso https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13076945680 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13076945681
32026-02-01 10:46commentedvectorial8192This note now mentions 3 items.
42026-02-01 11:16closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177959180 ; closing.
52026-02-04 14:45reopenedMC0207429
62026-02-04 15:38closedvectorial8192If nothing to add, then closing.
5150707 (iD)12026-02-01 14:10openedvectorial8192todo: cleanup bus relations
22026-02-04 15:32closedvectorial8192Resolved via openstreetmap.org/changeset/178100219 ; closing.
5150788 (iD)12026-02-01 15:01openedvectorial8192todo: clean up bus relations
22026-02-02 11:03closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/178001499 ; closing.
5143296 (iD)12026-01-26 05:09openedvectorial8192todo: construction work review
22026-02-02 08:04closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177994751 ; closing.
5034363 (iD)12025-11-02 14:20openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22026-02-02 07:21closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177993465 ; closing.
5038052 (iD)12025-11-04 16:26openedvectorial8192individual buildings and streets, where name:en?
22026-01-02 22:01closedbpaz709394
32026-01-03 02:41reopenedkingkingHK
42026-01-03 02:41commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
52026-01-25 14:01commentedkingkingHKNot sure where the `name:zh` came from in the first place; can't survey due to `access=private` and can't find any useful info online.
62026-01-25 16:10commentedSkylark_H_CI believe these names are real. Refer to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5L_oSHKvck (vlog of the experience in this hostel)
72026-01-25 16:13commentedSkylark_H_Cbut yes, some of these streets have no English name. (4:50 in the video)
82026-01-26 02:25commentedkingkingHK1. copyright 2. If it cannot be verified without entering an `access=private` premise I believe it would cause problems verifiability.
92026-01-26 05:00commentedvectorial8192Re "copyright" I quote https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/is-a-youtube-video-an-acceptable-source/125692/5 > However, factual information in that video is probably not “the video or a non-trivial excerpt from it”. So, for example, if someone has gone for a leisurely walk around a town centre, filmed it, uploaded it to YouTube, and you spot...
102026-01-26 14:25commentedkingkingHK1. Anyway, as Kovoschiz said in Discord, Youtube videos can never be used to map OSM due to Terms of Services, regardless of copyright. 2. Imo this is too private, e.g. you wouldn't indoor map your home even though you are an OSM user who can verify it.
112026-01-26 17:43commentedKovoschiz1. " (And… then there’s terms of use to consider. Google Maps has a clause that says roughly “by using this site, you agree that you won’t use features like Street View to update your own map database”, no matter what copyright law might say. I haven’t looked to see whether YouTube has anything like this because I try to avoid YouTube ...
122026-02-02 04:57commentedvectorial8192I opened this note because it's highly unusual that we have streets in HK that have no English names. A san-check/survey may be needed. With the YT video, I can san-check that, indeed, the streets *not* having English names is normal. We can have a middleground where I add a note to 1331 stating that the streets really do not have English names.
132026-02-02 05:02commentedvectorial8192YT TOS https://www.youtube.com/t/terms#c3e2907ca8 : > You are not allowed to: > > access, reproduce, download, [...] Taking a single frame and then do stuff does not sound like reproducing. afaik updating the notes field brings no meaningful change to the map data (for other mappers only), so probably should not cause damage, but don't quote me o...
142026-02-02 05:23commentedkingkingHK> You are not allowed to use the Service to view or listen to Content other than for personal, non-commercial use Taking a single frame is certainly "viewing", and OSM's license does nothing to prohibit data consumers from using `note=` for commercial purposes.
152026-02-02 06:59closedvectorial8192well then
5150565 (iD)12026-02-01 12:33opened散掉的冰块This place does not exist: "旁边有一个同名的建筑物,那么这个作为工业用地存在的同名区域应当被删除" A CoMaps user reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2025-12-27T02:09:53Z POI name: 機場空運中心 Airport Freight Forwarding Cen...
22026-02-01 12:41commentedkingkingHKProbably should change the `building=` `name=` to `addr:housename=`, as per changeset discussion of https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/172051373
32026-02-01 17:04closedKovoschizAlready is. This is correct for single main building facility/site.
5145374 (iD)12026-01-28 03:37openedvectorial8192todo: by Government Notice 2025/8264, North Lantau Highway (eastbound) should have 80 kmh speed limit.
22026-01-28 03:38commentedvectorial8192while we are at it, also write down the notice number for easier future reference.
32026-01-29 12:35commentedvectorial8192This continues from https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5145054
42026-02-01 15:42closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177969541 ; closing.
5150276 (iD)12026-02-01 08:26openedvectorial8192todo: station is too small
22026-02-01 15:20closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177968557 ; closing.
3740751 (iD)12023-06-18 15:04openedos-emmerThis junction looks like a mini-roundabout but I am not sure. At the moment it's mapped with an area with turning_circle=yes which is wrong in any case. Can someone check if this is a mini-roundabout?
22025-01-06 02:19closedCypp0847Changed at https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/161042269
32026-02-01 11:53reopenedkingkingHK
42026-02-01 11:54commentedkingkingHKFrom aerial imagery, this is clearly not a mini-roundabout as there are no road markings prohibiting free travel, i.e. it is simply a widened circular road. It should be `highway=turning_circle`.
52026-02-01 13:58closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177964925 ; closing.
4559591 (iD)12024-12-21 21:31openedDimitar155The 3 sets of 2 buildings each might be semi-detached.
22025-03-29 11:49closedvectorial8192OSM does not provide an easy way to see "polygon shape" history, but currently these buildings are now semi-detached. Therefore, closing.
32025-03-29 14:06reopenedDimitar155They aren't tagged as semi-detached. All of them have building=terrace + house=terrace, https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1103846078 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1268486759 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1268486762 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1268486763 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1268486764 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/12...
42025-03-30 12:13commentedvectorial8192Hi there! Sorry for misunderstanding the note. You may see me around closing notes to clean up the notes interface, to declutter them. This can be reviewed in detail later.
52025-09-12 12:27commentedkingkingHK@vectorial8192 has the "review in detail later" ever happened? Seems like it's still tagged as `building=terrace` and `house=terrace`. Also, you may be interested in https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4559590.
62025-09-12 12:37commentedvectorial8192It never happened. I went to do something else. Also yes I know that similar note is placed at Sai Kung. The original plan was to deal with this first, and then deal with the Sai Kung one later.
72025-09-12 15:48commentedvectorial8192To clarify my situation, the blocker was/is that I am extremely unfamiliar with how individual buildings should be mapped. Me not touching this again was not due to anything bad happening. It's entirely my lack of knowledge.
82025-09-12 15:52commentedvectorial8192Another blocker would be to really manually review the several dozen (or hundred?) of buildings.
92026-02-01 11:48commentedvectorial8192By Overpass Turbo https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/2jMo there are about 280 terrace buildings, most of which will likely need to be fixed as per this note.
102026-02-01 12:06commentedkingkingHKConfusingly, there seem to be quite a lot of `building=terrace` + `house=semi-detached`, which doesn't really make sense. Wiki recommends `building=semidetached_house`. Should we create separate notes for other semi-detached houses tagged as terraces for better management?
112026-02-01 12:22commentedvectorial8192Improved with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177961308 by trying to identify the semi-detached houses.
122026-02-01 12:27commentedkingkingHK`building=terrace` + `house=semi-detached` improved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177961520
132026-02-01 13:16commentedvectorial8192desync My personal opinion is to change terrace&semi-detached into the proper semidetached_house tag, because having house=semi-detached may subvert meaning of building=house or building=terrace .
142026-02-01 13:21commentedvectorial8192house -> semidetached_house with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177963622
152026-02-01 13:28commentedvectorial8192Fixed mistagged semidetached_house with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177963756 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177963900
162026-02-01 13:29commentedvectorial8192Identified semidetached_house with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177963931
172026-02-01 13:44closedvectorial8192Finally, lgtm; closing.
2926575 (iD)12021-11-07 16:23openedWright One條路似乎塞左
22026-02-01 12:32closedWright One可以行,但較容易滑到
5150539 (iD)12026-02-01 12:12openedvectorial8192todo: https://overpass-turbo.eu/?w=%22building%22%3D%22semi-detached%22+global&R
22026-02-01 12:21closedkingkingHKResolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177961274 ; closing.
4559590 (iD)12024-12-21 21:28openedDimitar155The 3 sets of 2 buildings each might be semi-detached.
22025-10-06 02:01closedHenryEKfixed
32026-02-01 11:49reopenedvectorial8192
42026-02-01 11:49commentedvectorial8192Related note see https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4559591 ; we can further improve this.
52026-02-01 12:00closedvectorial8192Some houses nearby are also semi-detached. Improved with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177960588 ; closing again.
5096262 (iD)12025-12-18 14:41openedvectorial8192It seems the Golf Court extends to this area.
22026-02-01 11:41closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177959938 ; closing.
1684719 (iD)12019-02-18 03:54openedLi Ken隱藏路線,己變密林 17 FEB 2019
22025-01-17 14:10closedvectorial8192高空圖片亦已不能見到山徑, 由 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/161456988 更新山徑狀況, 消除註記
32026-02-01 07:01reopenedkingkingHK
42026-02-01 07:02commentedkingkingHKReviving as https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/161456988 is insufficient to reflect latest state; see also discussion there.
52026-02-01 10:45commentedvectorial8192Honourable, but this is extra rural. Might not be worth it.
5148979 (iD)12026-01-31 04:13openedvectorial8192todo: http://www.primavilla.net/
22026-02-01 10:02closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177956887 ; closing.
5128925 (iD)12026-01-14 12:15opened優質乾洗會-大圍村 Quality Dry Clean - Tai Wai Village 洗衣店 翠欣街10號沙田 大 圍 村 7 號 地下
22026-01-20 04:50commentedvectorial8192See https://sunshinelaundry.com.hk/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/LoveLaundry_013_Final.pdf
32026-01-28 15:05commentedvectorial8192Upon review, that PDF is from 2016. Not convincing.
42026-01-29 05:58commentedkingkingHKCan't find this feature IRL. However, note mentions Chui Yan Street, which is near Yu Chui Court. Misplace note?
52026-01-29 07:02commentedvectorial8192Feels like a paradoxical/invalid note to me. Yu Chui Court is addressed as "Ngau Pei Sha Street". Nearby Prima Villa doesn't have any shops at all. This note would be pointing at nothing.
62026-01-31 03:46commentedkingkingHKI can't even find a building addressed as 10 Chui Yan Street. Sounds like we can close as "note is not helpful"/"note is incomprehensible".
72026-02-01 09:58closedvectorial8192I was planning to close this note without survey by classifying this as an invalid note. I see we can agree on this. Therefore, closing.
470359 (iD)12015-11-18 03:26openednevilcheung凱昇藝術中心
22015-11-18 03:26closednevilcheung
32015-11-18 03:26reopenednevilcheung
42025-03-28 07:59commentedvectorial8192Correct
52025-03-29 16:57commentedvectorial8192Feature already exists as https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3841741635 , but it seems we don't have a tag for "arts school"...?
62025-07-07 04:15closedroylo5112
72025-09-05 13:46reopenedkingkingHK
82025-09-05 13:46commentedkingkingHKPerhaps `education=art_school`?
92025-09-11 14:13commentedvectorial8192I am half split between "yes let's do it" and "but it also targets school kids".
102025-09-11 14:15commentedvectorial8192I might understand this wrongly, but I feel like `education=art_school` is for adults and teens. Like, a higher-education school for future artists, and not for kids.
112025-09-17 04:25commentedkingkingHKThen, perhaps `amenity=prep_school` + `school=art`?
122025-09-17 08:01commentedKovoschiz`=prep_school` is preparing for exams. This is `=training`
132025-09-17 10:22commentedvectorial8192Agree in principle with @kingkingHK and @Kovoschiz, but also consider doing `education=*` instead of `amenity=*` as per latest OSM recommendation: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:education
142025-09-17 19:13commentedKovoschizIt's both `amenity=` + `education`
152025-10-14 07:15commentedkingkingHKSo, `amenity=training` + `education=training` + `training=art`?
162025-12-20 10:23commentedvectorial8192Technically, `amenity=training` is correct, but that doesn't feel right. I feel like "training" is for adults / professionals, but this being a kid's school doesn't fulfill this requirement.
172025-12-20 13:46commentedkingkingHKI don't see why it must be for adults. The wiki defines it as "public places where you can get training". Precedent see e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12428711030
182025-12-26 04:01commentedvectorial8192Good precedent; we can type this in later.
192026-02-01 09:53closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177956622 ; closing.
2414889 (iD)12020-11-08 13:33openedCvgUser強記士多
22020-11-08 13:51closedCvgUser強記士多
32021-01-10 20:38reopenedKovoschiz
42024-09-20 07:50closedCypp0847Added, but seemingly closed, pls confirm
52026-02-01 06:58reopenedkingkingHK
62026-02-01 06:59commentedkingkingHK...why would you resolve a note while admitting you don't have enough information to do so? Anyway, survey needed. But this might be difficult.
5150198 (iD)12026-02-01 06:51openedkingkingHKtodo: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1002255941 etc descriptive name
5149136 (iD)12026-01-31 08:32openedPlease Change “ Hong Kong Student Aid Society Primary School“ to its newly changed named ‘Christian Pui Yan Primary School’ SInce I am a student that studying in that school
22026-01-31 18:27closedKovoschizhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/170061955/history/4
5149137 (iD)12026-01-31 08:33openedPlease Change “ Hong Kong Student Aid Society Primary School“ to its newly changed named ‘Christian Pui Yan Primary School’ SInce I am a student that studying in that school
22026-01-31 17:15closedKovoschizDupe https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5149136
5141255 (iD)12026-01-24 13:57openedvectorial8192Unstable speed limits at this junction; ?
22026-01-24 14:26commentedkingkingHKWhat's unstable? It makes sense, and the road markings visible from aerial imagery largely agree with the existing mapping, other than your https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177646947
32026-01-24 17:15commentedvectorial8192See https://openstreetbrowser.org/#map=19/22.40525/113.97796&basemap=osm-mapnik&categories=car_maxspeed ; then, see e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1086693746 Ain't no way there is a tiny section with 50 kmh speed limit inside a whole stretch of 70 kmh speed limit.
42026-01-25 03:11commentedkingkingHK1. The speed limit ovals visible from aerial imagery do indeed show a 50 km/h marking there. 2. It makes sense that a sharp curve would have a lower speed limit than a straight highway, see also 30 bridge.
52026-01-29 18:06commentedvectorial8192I am not doubting the existence of "50 kmh"; I am doubting that it lasts only this short, hence "unstable". No details yet, but I am leaning towards "Tsing Tin Road probably is not 70 kmh".
62026-01-30 02:50commentedkingkingHKPlease see https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=22.405515038428973&lng=113.97723239856998&z=18.447655819974504&pKey=1451362138529520&focus=photo&x=0.4868516350424504&y=0.5564936033969253&zoom=0
72026-01-30 05:32commentedvectorial8192Images are from 2020; medium believable. Will also do a web search to see if the speed limit is somehow changed while we are not looking.
82026-01-30 09:44commentedkingkingHKSpeed limit changes will result in a gazette, which I can't find any of. Also, if the speed limit is somehow changed, why do we still see 50 km/h ovals from 2025 aerial imagery when exiting Tsing Tin Road?
92026-01-30 13:14commentedvectorial8192OK, no need to argue on the 50 kmh part, we got a traffic accident right at this place today and I can armchair-see clearly there is indeed a 50 kmh oval here. The concern was whether the bridge got demoted from 70 kmh to 50 kmh while we were not looking, which trusting you did not happen. Will make changeset soon.
102026-01-30 14:59closedvectorial8192Thanks for the help in finding out effective sources. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177893973 ; closing.
4852037 (iD)12025-07-12 19:07openedvectorial8192"Hung Shui Kiu" is only a tentative name, as per usual railway development practice.
22025-12-14 12:16commentedkingkingHKExcuse my ignorance on this topic, could you please elaborate on what the "usual railway development practice" is, why "Hung Shui Kiu" is only a tentative name, and how it affects osm mapping/tagging? Thanks in advance.
32025-12-15 04:29commentedvectorial8192Basically, the "correct" name is only decided very late into the construction process, which is essentially a month before usage. During construction, the station most likely has a technical but internal name, and ideally we should type that name into the name field, but obviously that's private info and we can't expect to know about that. I opted...
42025-12-15 04:30commentedvectorial8192However, imo the real station name will very likely be "Hung Shui Kiu" as most would expect, but right now that's unsubstantiated and would count as "original research"/"fabrication".
52026-01-30 14:50closedvectorial8192Discord discussion clarified that it's ok to use working names for the name field. In addition, the concept name "Hung Shui Kiu" has been known by the public for 25+ years now (original West Rail planning). Then, nothing to do here. Closing.
5128919 (iD)12026-01-14 12:13opened洗衣博士順新洗衣 No 34, G/F, Mei Lam Shopping Centre, Tai Wai, Shatin
22026-01-20 04:50commentedvectorial8192See https://www.linkhk.com/tc/shop/21804
32026-01-29 06:06commentedkingkingHKIndeed, feature exists IRL.
42026-01-29 14:08closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177849787 ; closing.
5078240 (iD)12025-12-04 05:21openedvectorial8192Name of "house" https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/993221815 is very suspicious
22026-01-29 12:54commentedvectorial8192From satellite imagery, very likely a descriptive name + tag misuse. Squatter area should be tagged as some residential area, not as a building.
32026-01-29 12:56closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177846501 ; closing.
5128923 (iD)12026-01-14 12:14opened哆啦洗衣 大圍積福街2-4號積福樓地下E號舖
22026-01-20 04:49commentedvectorial8192See https://www.storellet.com/story/KMe12xQYbXNoFAsi/%E5%93%86%E5%95%A6%E6%B4%97%E8%A1%A3%EF%BD%9C%E6%96%B0%E5%BA%97%E4%B8%8A%E6%9E%B6
32026-01-28 15:08closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177809549 ; closing.
5128924 (iD)12026-01-14 12:15opened清新洗衣大圍 大圍積富街富軒
22026-01-23 19:28commentedvectorial8192Might be this https://www.facebook.com/p/%E6%B8%85%E6%96%B0%E6%B4%97%E8%A1%A3-61573057642070/ but go walk it.
32026-01-28 14:23closedvectorial8192Indeed. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177807873 ; closing.
5128538 (iD)12026-01-14 03:30openedkingkingHKAre they really constructing https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/774964181 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/774964743 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/774965667 ? Can't see any signs of construction from aerial imagery.
22026-01-14 07:43commentedKovoschizYou can refer to the surroundings. Most if not all non-T2 `=construction` seems should be `proposed:highway=` actually.
32026-01-28 13:33commentedvectorial8192All three roads are changed to be "highway=proposed" with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177805982 ; close?
42026-01-28 14:15closedkingkingHKYeah, was gonna do it myself but you did it first, thanks. Closing.
5128926 (iD)12026-01-14 12:15opened金海洋洗衣店 大圍海福商場26號鋪
22026-01-28 14:07closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177807200 ; closing.
5145054 (iD)12026-01-27 17:51openedvectorial8192todo: North Lantau Highway (westbound) probably should have 110 kmh speed limit.
22026-01-28 02:05closedkingkingHKIt's a medium-term temporary reduction due to nearby construction works. See Government Notice 2025/8264.
5144341 (iD)12026-01-27 06:34openedvectorial8192todo: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2935577631 pretty sure should be gone.
22026-01-27 18:04closedvectorial8192TIL the HD is not the same as the HA. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177774359 ; closing.
5141133 (iD)12026-01-24 11:55openedvectorial8192www.openstreetmap.org/way/446333287 First time in my life hearing about 60kmh speed limit; ?
22026-01-24 12:07commentedkingkingHKProbably simply typo? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/104194774
32026-01-27 15:22commentedvectorial8192Anyway, survey does confirm "50kmh".
42026-01-27 15:23closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177767921 ; closing.
5141828 (iD)12026-01-25 04:18openedkingkingHKhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/19120076 I think this has been completed? https://www.legco.gov.hk/tc/open-legco/press/yr2025/pr20251002-1.html
22026-01-27 09:47closedCypp0847https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177755230
5095569 (iD)12025-12-18 02:55openedkingkingHKHas this construction https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1232397199 been finished? Aerial imagery seem to show a building here, although it is possible that the building shown is the one pre-redevelopment.
22025-12-18 09:55commentedkingkingHKIndeed construction finished.
32026-01-27 04:23closedCypp0847https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177746856
5141143 (iD)12026-01-24 12:13openedkingkingHKhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/947230526 I don't think this is really `maxspeed=60`.
22026-01-26 11:29commentedvectorial8192Turns out it's still 50 kmh.
32026-01-26 11:31closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177716084 ; closing.
5140535 (iD)12026-01-23 17:29openedvectorial8192todo/question: should this section of road get noname=yes or should they receive "Discovery Bay Tunnel" by scope extension?
22026-01-25 12:19commentedvectorial8192See https://www.elegislation.gov.hk/hk/cap520B!en-zh-Hant-HK.pdf "Discovery Bay Tunnel Link Bylaw". The name would probably be derived from that. Maybe we can reference several other "ungazetted road names" cases elsewhere in Hong Kong.
32026-01-26 10:47commentedvectorial8192Upon review, I'm not gonna risk it. Cap 520 offers "Tunnel Link" as the descriptive name of the tunnel itself and the link roads connecting towards it. I will just interpret it as "the link roads have no name".
42026-01-26 10:59closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177715053 ; closing.
5128920 (iD)12026-01-14 12:14opened潔麗乾洗有限公司
22026-01-20 04:52commentedvectorial8192We have https://www.kleaners.hk/ , but it doesn't say anything about possible outlets.
32026-01-26 10:43closedvectorial8192Upon survey, no such thing here. Closing.
5139637 (iD)12026-01-23 02:57openedvectorial8192todo: review toll info
22026-01-23 17:31commentedvectorial8192specifically, looking at https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/246153300 , because it can also provide access to the tunnel office itself, should it not get toll=yes (directional information notwithstanding)?
32026-01-25 03:28commentedkingkingHKImo roads that are highway restrictive as to who can use it (e.g. most tunnel administration building service roads) should not affect things like `highway=` or `toll=`, otherwise you would give factually incorrect information to the 99.999% of people who will never get to use such roads in their lives.
42026-01-25 03:29commentedkingkingHKhighly restrictive* sorry for the typo
52026-01-25 13:36commentedvectorial8192This is a good point. Let's keep it toll=yes
62026-01-26 10:42closedvectorial8192Then, nothing to do here. Closing.
5141260 (iD)12026-01-24 14:01openedvectorial8192todo: junction review
22026-01-25 09:04commentedvectorial8192Scope is quite large. Highway reviewed with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177673057 , which involves a junction repositioning. So, next step is to clean up the bus relations, etc.
32026-01-25 14:43commentedvectorial8192Bus relations cleaned up with openstreetmap.org/changeset/177684530
42026-01-25 15:32closedvectorial8192Residue cleaned up with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177686818 All done; closing.
5034400 (iD)12025-11-02 14:37openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22025-11-09 11:11closedZuborg2012
32025-11-09 11:57reopenedkingkingHK
42026-01-25 14:03commentedkingkingHKIndeed there is a Family Medicine Clinic here.
5105251 (iD)12025-12-26 07:14openedvectorial8192todo: use motorway_link for multi-exit end-of-line junctions (e.g. see Western Harbour Crossing).
22025-12-27 10:59commentedvectorial8192It turns out Route 6 is described as "merges into Route 3 (Kwai Chung Side)" (see https://www.td.gov.hk/en/transport_in_hong_kong/hk_strategic_route_and_exit_number_system/map/r6/index.html )
32025-12-27 12:34commentedKovoschizThis has no effect, as it's the same for others https://www.td.gov.hk/en/transport_in_hong_kong/hk_strategic_route_and_exit_number_system/map/r3/index.html
42025-12-27 12:38commentedKovoschiz(There's even Rt 3 end on both directions)
52025-12-27 12:44commentedvectorial8192Counterpoint: Route 7 states "merges into Route 5 (Tsuen Wan side)" (see https://www.td.gov.hk/en/transport_in_hong_kong/hk_strategic_route_and_exit_number_system/map/r7/index.html ); we map it as "trunk road all the way".
62025-12-27 12:45commentedKovoschizNorthern terminal is further complicated by Tsing Long Hwy being on Rt 9 between the Interchange and San Tin Hwy north of NU22. It would be as if CKB is on Rt 3 between WHC and WKH. On the other hand, here it's complicated by Rt 9 merges into `noref=yes` Lin Cheung Rd first.
72025-12-28 05:17commentedvectorial8192If we are willing to break the "one road physical cross-section -> one OSM way" rule, then the solution becomes trivial.
82025-12-28 05:30commentedvectorial8192Another counterpoint: Look at the Route 1 / Route 9 superposition near Racecourse. I think a solution is possible while staying inside the "one cross-section -> one way rule".
92025-12-28 18:39commentedKovoschiz1. That's unacceptable 2. I don't see what's the relevance here. There's no Rt 3 and 6 concurrency.
102026-01-02 22:00closedbpaz709394
112026-01-03 02:40reopenedkingkingHK
122026-01-03 02:40commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
132026-01-25 10:19closedvectorial8192I now see Route 3 -> Route 6 is using motorway; this makes sense because we have precedent for this in Route 5 -> Route 7, which contains an exit for Route 5 itself and also provide the (branching) starting point for Route 7. I see Route 6 -> Lin Cheung Road is also using motorway. Upon rethinking, I have no real proposals/ideas for the Lin Cheun...
5093604 (iD)12025-12-16 10:45openedvectorial8192Various "dots" exist in this area with nothing but "name=Yau Ma Tei Interchange"; what for?
22025-12-17 11:05commentedKovoschizSeems another user omission. In general, `junction=yes` can be used for named junctions, and the confusingly UK-named `=motorway_junction` for exits. However in this case, HK has the special practice of gazetting some roadways to be named "Interchange" as "streets", and it's not straightforward to determine the extent of YMT Interchange when it ove...
32025-12-21 12:09commentedvectorial8192What I mean is, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2861669105 this is just a named "dot". The meaning is unclear.
42026-01-02 22:00closedbpaz709394
52026-01-03 02:40reopenedkingkingHK
62026-01-03 02:40commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
72026-01-25 10:10commentedvectorial8192I remember seeing named dots in the subway tracks, and that's to help with identifying which rail path the node belongs to when the rail paths are overlapping. Here the shape is complex, but the overlapping is minimal, so we may just clear the names from the dots.
82026-01-25 10:12closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177674914 ; closing.
5132153 (iD)12026-01-17 03:13openedkingkingHKI vaguely remember https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1341043773 does not exist anymore.
22026-01-17 08:52commentedvectorial8192Old imagery (Bing Maps) and new imagery (ESRI World) both say "no crossings here".
32026-01-17 09:33commentedkingkingHKIirc the barriers prohibiting jaywalking were removed in 2019, which could justify `crossing=informal` as it is no longer illegal to cross. However the barriers were readded later, making it `crossing=no` again.
42026-01-17 09:39commentedvectorial8192"2019" has too much ambiguity to be helpful to OSM mapping. Informal crossings are disallowed within x meters from legal crossings https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1180365855 . I forgot/dunno what x is.
52026-01-17 10:49commentedkingkingHKI quote Cap. 374G (39)(a)(ii): > No pedestrian shall cross a road within 15 m of a light signal crossing otherwise than at the crossing where such lights operate. This is around 39 metres from https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1180365855. We can probably do `not:highway=footway` + `not:footway=crossing` + `crossing=no` + `was:highway=footway` + `...
62026-01-17 12:15commentedKovoschizNo need to invoke other crosswalks, but you should measure from the crosswalks at this intersections, which is within 15m. It's illegal to climb over barriers, and cross within 15m of footbridges.
72026-01-17 12:17commentedKovoschizAt least that's my understanding. You must detour via the upstream intersection, or go C-shaped around the intersection.
82026-01-17 12:46commentedkingkingHKI was thinking the footbridge doesn't count because it goes to a different place, but from the wording of the law it seems like it counts anyway...
92026-01-25 09:19commentedvectorial8192I scoff at "it seems like it counts anyway". If laws are this expressively precise (I wish), then we don't even need the Judicial Review. e.g. I hear there is a JR case unrelated to pedestrian crossing arguing that it's unclear/ambiguous which "right hand side" the law is talking about. Hardcore theoretical physics in the legal system, yay. A reas...
102026-01-25 09:26closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177673697 ; closing.
5141115 (iD)12026-01-24 11:38openedvectorial8192This https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/394542126 does not seem like should be primary_link .
22026-01-24 11:58commentedkingkingHKProbably simply forgotten to change after https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/157459541
32026-01-25 07:36closedvectorial8192Believable. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177671084 ; closing.
5139696 (iD)12026-01-23 06:36openedvectorial8192todo: Confucian religion landuse? We build a new temple here? What even is this?
22026-01-24 19:18commentedvectorial8192Apparently, is this https://www.hk01.com/18%E5%8D%80%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E/815590/%E9%91%BD%E7%9F%B3%E5%B1%B1%E7%AB%99%E5%95%9F%E7%BF%94%E8%8B%91%E6%97%81%E6%93%AC%E5%BB%BA5%E5%B1%A4%E9%AB%98%E5%AD%94%E5%BB%9F-%E5%AD%94%E6%95%99%E5%BB%A3%E5%A0%B4%E4%BD%9C%E7%B7%A9%E8%A1%9D-%E9%A0%82%E5%B1%A4%E8%A8%AD%E5%A4%A7%E6%88%90%E6%AE%BF
32026-01-25 07:33closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177671030 ; closing.
3654302 (iD)12023-04-22 12:36openedNumber of storeys: 22 Units per floor: 10 Population: 589
22024-03-11 15:44commentedvectorial8192Number of storeys already in OSM data. We don't store population; it is too volatile. We do not have "units per floor"; however, we do have "total units in building". But is it a good idea to store the total?
32024-03-12 08:09commentedKovoschizWhat do you mean? `building:flats=` is a standard, and I haven't seen any question about its usefuleness. Not having units per floor now doesn't mean it can't be created. Also it would be useful to have an `addr:flats=` per floor to show how they are numbered on each floor, as the format is not scalable to list all reliably.
42025-01-16 18:26closedhersonsl
52025-01-17 02:41reopenedvectorial8192
62025-09-24 09:47commentedkingkingHKWill there be any further discussion on this note? Discussions regarding units per floor and address format notation isn't very relevant to this note and is probably better suited elsewhere.
72025-09-24 14:14commentedvectorial8192imo population should not be stored in osm, but I am not too familiar with how that works. can use this opportunity to recheck Tsui Chuk Garden building level/unit correctness, I guess.
82025-09-25 11:03commentedHenryEKwhy is this note still active
92026-01-25 04:03commentedkingkingHK`population=` exists, and the 2021 census gives Tsui Chuk Garden population as 10071. However, the wiki says `population=` should only be used on `place=`.
4113548 (iD)12024-02-15 07:54openedLandslide
22025-12-31 07:11commentedvectorial8192It seems the note tries to describe landslide locations marked with https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4113544 and also https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4113546 From aerial imagery (ESRI) it seems the landslide did happen, and then was dealt with by some concrete cover.
32025-12-31 07:53commentedkingkingHKBut then, what happened to https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/171937875 ? Is it still traversable? Survey recommended. Can also check things like details and extent of concrete cover, state of https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/109195927 etc.
42025-12-31 11:13commentedvectorial8192Aerial imagery can be used to guesstimate the extent. It being concrete cover (i.e. no trees) enables this. My vibes are that the (vehicular) roads are still traversable. Otherwise, they can't do effective maintenance along the pond edge.
52025-12-31 11:35commentedvectorial8192It being this rural I personally strongly prefer armchair edits. Looking this in more detail, with the cleanliness of the concrete cover, I think the relevant section of the country trail is gone for good. Then, it seems survey is not needed.
62025-12-31 11:47commentedvectorial8192I am satisfied with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/176668318 ; may close this.
72025-12-31 11:54commentedkingkingHKIf the middle half is cut off by the two landslides, then it should be non-accessible (unless you climb the concrete cover), which, given it is a dirt road (see online info), should result in changes in `trail_visibility=`, `=obstacle`, or even `disused:highway=` or `abandoned:highway=`. Still need to survey to check this. c.f. e.g. https://www.ope...
82026-01-01 04:00commentedvectorial8192It being a dirt path left untouched for two years, I would just assume it's been reclaimed by nature and would become `was:highway`. I don't trust GraphHopper (or any other electronic calculator) when it comes to mountain walking. Also see https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5112232 to check whether the country trail was redesignated.
92026-01-01 14:14commentedkingkingHKAnyhow, `access=no` is not appropriate for "reclaimed by nature" imo. What's stopping you form using it? And why did you make part of it `was:highway=` and part of it `highway=` + `access=no`?
102026-01-02 03:05commentedvectorial8192The blocked section became unobservable, and therefore gets `was:highway`. The unblocked sections are hopefully still observable but became dead paths, and therefore gets `access=no` to (at least visually) indicate the path is dead. Anyhow, you may always irl-check it.
112026-01-02 12:59commentedkingkingHKI feel like you are confusing "physical constraints" with "legal restrictions". No matter the state of the path, one may always try. Anyway, I went there today. Findings: - There is actually a third landslide between the Lower Reservoir dam and Lakeview Garden that you can kind of see from aerial imagery. - The section of the Country Trail east of...
122026-01-03 07:23commentedvectorial8192How to say it, it somewhat triggers me to see unfinished tasks lying around. If it can be somewhat reasonably finished by armchair (e.g. this, by aerial imagery + a bit of thinking) then I will do it by armchair. Sometimes it cannot be by armchair but can easily do irl-visit (e.g. various urban area notes). Then, I normally would shut and wait un...
132026-01-25 03:38commentedkingkingHKImo the problem is that you are closing a note alongside with it, which makes it much harder for everyone else to spot potential rooms for improvement. Like, if I weren't here when you closed this note, would anyone notice changing the Country Trail to `access=no` is completely incorrect? Personally I prefer to make as little guesswork/thinking a...
5126001 (iD)12026-01-12 05:31openedvectorial8192todo: now that reclamation is (probably) mostly complete/stabilized, review/partition into greenfields
22026-01-12 07:48commentedKovoschizThere's nothing to be partitioned. Already done inside. TCE can be discussed as a `boundary=administrative` depending on definition.
32026-01-12 15:25commentedvectorial8192TCE feels like some sort of "urban block", but afaik no such urban block specification for HK OSM.
42026-01-13 06:57commentedKovoschizWhy is it a "block"? I have already used `city_block` for numbered planning areas, but it's not always correct. TC E would be worse, as it's totally not one street block only.
52026-01-16 14:53commentedvectorial8192Anyway, the first step is to move the TCE naming from the reclamation work area to the place=suburb as in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177301892
62026-01-18 11:33commentedvectorial8192The next step is to make almost everything in this area a greenfield as in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177369360 . The thought is, land plots that are planned but not allocated yet should remain as greenfields until someone acquire them and start construction.
72026-01-24 16:33closedvectorial8192Should be good now. Closing.
5108020 (iD)12025-12-28 10:24openedvectorial8192todoL I think MilMill is located here?
22026-01-08 06:39commentedkingkingHKSeems like it is; while there are no names signposted, there is a "39 Ng Chow South Road" sign, same with MilMill's website.
32026-01-24 15:13closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177650137 ; closing.
5133341 (iD)12026-01-18 04:45openedkingkingHKTodo: clean up bus relations after https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177303927
22026-01-24 11:33commentedvectorial8192Bus relation cleaned up with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177642107
32026-01-24 11:34closedvectorial8192Residue stuff cleaned up with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177642161 Therefore, resolved, and closing.
5105750 (iD)12025-12-26 14:28openedkingkingHKMost towers on podiums are tagged with `building=`, not `building:part=`. Then, is it appropriate to use `building:part=` for https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/142662166 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/142662162 ? Personally I don't see a tower as being the same building as its podium, but maybe that's just me.
22025-12-27 07:32commentedKovoschizThat was Apple doing it without consulting us. Many others, eg TKO. The problem with `building:part=` is towers or podiums can have their own parts, meaning there's nothing in between to group those parts. (I'm guessing the proposal discussions didn't consider such complexities) They are considered as buildings by people too. Therefore practically ...
32026-01-24 08:43commentedvectorial8192So, ultimately, is this a "todo" note or is this a "it do be like this" note?
42026-01-24 08:57commentedkingkingHKTodo. My plan is to change all `building:part=` towers in Hong Kong to `building=`, then close this note.
5140972 (iD)12026-01-24 08:44opened4
22026-01-24 08:56closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
5140971 (iD)12026-01-24 08:43opened3
22026-01-24 08:56closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
5034357 (iD)12025-11-02 14:19openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22026-01-24 08:42closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177637595 ; closing.
5036161 (iD)12025-11-03 12:52openedkingkingHKFamily Medicine Clinic
22026-01-24 08:08closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177636835 ; closing.
5027512 (iD)12025-10-29 03:25openedklorydryk"invisible from the road" The place has gone or never existed. A CoMaps user reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground. OSM snapshot date: 2025-09-06T09:48:08Z POI has no name POI types: highway-path #CoMaps android
22025-12-03 11:47commentedvectorial8192Does this mean, there is no perimeter foot path?
32025-12-03 23:19commentedklorydrykYes if is what I mean
42026-01-22 09:17closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177555528 ; closing.
52026-01-23 17:08reopenedKovoschiz
62026-01-23 17:09commentedKovoschizThis is unclear. It may be `trail_visibility=no` / `obstacle=vegetation` / `disused=yes` / `abandoned:highway=`
72026-01-23 17:14commentedKovoschizAs in the connection https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1002239786/
5139307 (iD)12026-01-22 18:51openedHong Kong
22026-01-23 06:57closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
5036242 (iD)12025-11-03 13:46openedkingkingHKNow that "錦田診所 Kam Tin Clinic" has been renamed to "錦田家庭醫學診所 Kam Tin Family Medicine Clinic", has there been any changes to the bus stop's naming?
22025-11-03 15:11commentedvectorial8192It being KMB they probably won't even care about that.
32025-11-03 15:19commentedvectorial8192Also, now that I looked a bit deeper into the renaming, I am not sure whether it's the entire building being renamed, or that only the clinic (might not be in OSM) being renamed.
42026-01-22 13:45closedkingkingHKNo change; closing
5115416 (iD)12026-01-03 10:30openedvectorial8192node https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1704464465 ; see note https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5101540
22026-01-22 11:08closedvectorial8192By survey, it's still closed. Closing.
5080639 (iD)12025-12-06 08:06openedvectorial8192What is the name of this park https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1346575800 ?
22026-01-22 10:51closedvectorial8192Turns out it has no name. Fun times. Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177558946 ; closing.
5034389 (iD)12025-11-02 14:33openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22026-01-02 22:01closedbpaz709394
32026-01-03 02:41reopenedkingkingHK
42026-01-03 02:41commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
52026-01-22 10:47closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177558823 ; closing.
5129818 (iD)12026-01-15 05:17openedkingkingHKhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2247720552 should probably be deleted
22026-01-19 08:56commentedCypp0847https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177413789 wikidata relocated
32026-01-22 05:08commentedvectorial8192"Skylineblick" doesn't refer to any feature in Hong Kong, and is also a German descriptive name. Node can be deleted.
42026-01-22 05:09closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177548991 ; closing.
5137708 (iD)12026-01-21 12:46openedkingkingHKtodo: station is too small, and does not match track position.
22026-01-21 15:52commentedvectorial8192The hard part about this (and Sai Ying Pun Station) is that when the station is deep enough, the usual tunnel-building avoidance rule does not apply.
32026-01-22 02:31commentedkingkingHKHowever, one may walk in the pedestrian tunnels, allowing for dead reckoning. The hard part would be accounting for elevation change in the footways, which might not be uniform.
5137470 (iD)12026-01-21 09:26opened4
22026-01-21 12:44closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
5137453 (iD)12026-01-21 09:15opened2
22026-01-21 12:44closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
5137443 (iD)12026-01-21 08:57opened1
22026-01-21 12:44closedkingkingHKNote is not helpful; closing.
5134801 (iD)12026-01-19 06:13openedkingkingHKtodo: Yau Tong Road ugly curves
22026-01-20 16:24commentedvectorial8192Improved with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177483693 ; would that be OK?
32026-01-21 12:44closedkingkingHKLooks good, thanks. Closing.
5137464 (iD)12026-01-21 09:24opened3
22026-01-21 12:40closedvectorial8192Yes, this is Route 3. Closing.
5087538 (iD)12025-12-11 17:08openedvectorial8192todo: Some clinics have generic names, which may be improved.
22026-01-02 22:00closedbpaz709394
32026-01-03 02:40reopenedkingkingHK
42026-01-03 02:40commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
52026-01-21 12:13closedKX675Just unified the tagging of those constituent clinics to reflect their full name with "Yau Ma Tei", and corrected "衛生" to "衞生".
5137391 (iD)12026-01-21 08:07openedFlorist
5034390 (iD)12025-11-02 14:34openedvectorial8192Is this a Family Medicine Clinic?
22026-01-02 22:01closedbpaz709394
32026-01-03 02:41reopenedkingkingHK
42026-01-03 02:41commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
52026-01-20 15:10commentedvectorial8192This looks like an amalgamation of two facilities.
62026-01-20 15:22commentedvectorial8192It turns out this is not a FMC, but more like an "outlet hospital".
72026-01-20 15:30closedvectorial8192Nonetheless, resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177481541 ; closing.
5134731 (iD)12026-01-19 04:09openedvectorial8192todo: review/calibrate this
22026-01-20 11:37closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177471698 ; closing.
5101540 (iD)12025-12-22 16:51openedvectorial8192https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6395436890 troll-tagging; is it a barrier or not?
22025-12-22 16:52commentedvectorial8192While we are at it, also check https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1704464465
32026-01-20 05:03closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/176295649 ; closing.
5128922 (iD)12026-01-14 12:14opened白馬乾濕洗衣店 大圍村第一街1D地下
22026-01-20 04:48closedvectorial8192Not here; closing.
5099138 (iD)12025-12-20 19:02openedvectorial8192https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/39550532 , etc., ?
22026-01-02 22:01closedbpaz709394
32026-01-03 02:40reopenedkingkingHK
42026-01-03 02:40commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
52026-01-19 02:47commentedkingkingHKIt seems like this is difficult to survey on foot. Might need to take a bus that uses https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/113146414 e.g. 13X, 28, 213X, 224X, 297, X6C.
62026-01-19 03:36commentedvectorial8192To clarify this note, this really feels like duplicate mapping. eg this https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1205404050 has construction=motorway_Link but then https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/113146414 already exists. This might be an armchair mistake. I think I tried to delete this in the past, but it was reverted.
72026-01-19 19:45commentedKovoschizUpdated (had already marked what they are supposed to be)
82026-01-19 19:46closedKovoschiz
5109879 (iD)12025-12-29 15:09openedvectorial8192todo: now, what has happened to this school?
22025-12-29 15:09commentedvectorial8192it would seem they have moved elsewhere, but where to?
32025-12-30 02:32commentedkingkingHKAccording to https://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/202512/20/P2025122000245.htm , here https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/191713473 .
42026-01-18 17:04commentedvectorial8192Part 1: set up the new place as in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177382819
52026-01-19 15:28commentedvectorial8192Part 2: disuse the old place as in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177434989
62026-01-19 15:31closedvectorial8192All done; closing.
5109341 (iD)12025-12-29 08:31openedkingkingHKThis section of Central Kowloon Route has been completed. Then, what is https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/895849386 for?
22025-12-29 15:32commentedvectorial8192Probably indeterminate/limbo; afaik later give to Metro Park. Can defer as "haven't done that yet".
32026-01-17 12:11commentedkingkingHKIt's still fenced and has construction equipments inside, but can't see any activity. Probably `landuse=brownfield`? Or just do nothing and wait long enough it starts to become part of Metro Park.
42026-01-18 13:36commentedvectorial8192How to say it, afaik the government isn't fully sure whether there will be a Metro Park. The plans related to that kept changing.
52026-01-18 13:46commentedkingkingHKI think `landuse=brownfield` can be used for undetermined landuse?
62026-01-18 14:37commentedvectorial8192Yes, we may do landuse=brownfield here.
5080646 (iD)12025-12-06 08:16openedkingkingHKIs Lantau Link Visitors Centre (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/12271148) really a `highway=rest_area`?
22025-12-10 10:50commentedvectorial8192Hong Kong does not have rest areas. At most this is a park.
32025-12-13 14:15commentedkingkingHKBut then, the park already exists as https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/158307216, the relation merely includes it and the parking nearby (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/903452942). Maybe that means the relation is useless?
42026-01-03 06:00closedbpaz709394
52026-01-03 06:04reopenedvectorial8192
62026-01-03 09:33commentedkmpoppeThis note was part of a mass-closure without any comment. It was subsequently reopened, as it's unclear if the problem mentioned still persists.
72026-01-18 13:13commentedvectorial8192Not entirely useless. Using the American interpretation, a feature must have its "main building" plus its car park. Here, both sub-components are separated by the highway. I can see the mappers decided to use separate polygons to establish each component, then use a multipolygon (in OSM this would be a relation) to join them and describe the full...
82026-01-18 13:39closedkingkingHKAfter consulting the international osm Discord server ( https://discord.com/channels/413070382636072960/428214296695144458/1453748562541154472 ), it seems like this can be considered a rest area. Then, really nothing to do here. Closing.
5133661 (iD)12026-01-18 11:22openedvectorial8192todo: Area 122 to be transferred to HKHS for construction
22026-01-18 11:50closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177370060 ; closing.
5125630 (iD)12026-01-11 17:45openedvectorial8192todo: bad railway curves
22026-01-12 07:01commentedkingkingHKWhile the existing curve are indeed ugly/odd, with what you said in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/175836968 in mind, I don't see what one can confidently do other than perhaps smoothening curves. The current ones are believable enough (buildings and tunnels avoid each other; curve not very sharp).
32026-01-12 08:41commentedvectorial8192Correct. We can beautify/smoothen the railway curves.
42026-01-12 14:23commentedvectorial8192To clarify, I was surprised there could be an update to rail curves here. The previous version seem reasonable enough to not need refining.
52026-01-17 09:17closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177327642 ; closing.
5034387 (iD)12025-11-02 14:33openedvectorial8192Family Medicine Clinic
22026-01-02 22:01closedbpaz709394
32026-01-03 02:40reopenedkingkingHK
42026-01-03 02:40commentedkingkingHKNot done yet; please don't resolve!
52026-01-06 11:15commentedvectorial8192/rant I swear to god, every time I went to Kwun Tong (Yue Man Square), every time I got bamboozled by irl, because every time the OSM data is somehow wrong.
62026-01-17 08:41closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177326598 ; closing.
5132152 (iD)12026-01-17 03:11openedkingkingHKTodo: add residential entrances, more indoor footways, indoor details, etc. (continuing from https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5104381)
4958371 (iD)12025-09-12 11:02openedvectorial8192Quarry Bay station, Exits B1, B2, and B3 are original research.
22025-09-12 11:07commentedvectorial8192*also exit B4
32025-09-12 11:20commentedvectorial8192These B "subexits" are not signposted irl and do not appear in irl official diagrams. IRL only denotes "B". This is different from East Tsim Sha Tsui Station where the J "subexits" are delegated to be under the management of an external party, currently the manager of Victoria Dockside, and each have their own ref. I can personally attest these J ...
42025-09-12 12:04commentedvectorial8192Detected faulty changeset as https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/16819169 .
52025-09-24 12:14commentedkingkingHKFrom Discord discussion, it seems like this note is a false positive? If so, perhaps we can close it.
62025-09-24 13:53commentedvectorial8192The next step is to check/confirm the railway protection details, and I haven't done that yet.
72025-09-30 12:58commentedvectorial8192So, there really are official documents that write down exist B1 to B4, but they are no longer signposted irl. Then, need to determine the proper next step. Should we keep only the B exit or somehow mix in the preexisting B1 - B4 exits with the newly-mapped B exit?
82025-09-30 13:42commentedkingkingHKImo if it's no longer signposted irl then I don't see why it should still be kept. Official documents can still be outdated or simply wrong.
92025-11-26 06:36commentedkingkingHKAlso, `old_ref` can be considered if you really want to keep the B1-B4.
102025-12-14 12:28commentedkingkingHKWould there be any disagreements if I make all of them `ref=B`, change the `=B1` to `=B4` to `old_ref=`, and close this note?
112025-12-15 04:25commentedvectorial8192I don't know the details, but it seems there can only be 1x `ref=B` as specified by the OSM schema.
122025-12-15 09:55commentedKovoschizIt should be acceptable to have multiple `ref=B`
132026-01-03 05:58closedbpaz709394
142026-01-03 06:04reopenedvectorial8192
152026-01-03 09:33commentedkmpoppeThis note was part of a mass-closure without any comment. It was subsequently reopened, as it's unclear if the problem mentioned still persists.
162026-01-16 15:48commentedvectorial8192Upon rethinking, we can do was:ref as if it is lifecycle. Some of us were there when it was still B1 to B4, and some of us (e.g. me) noticed it is now only B.
172026-01-16 16:31closedvectorial8192Finally resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177305619 ; closing. Once again, I apologize for the false allegations stemming from confusion.
5125024 (iD)12026-01-11 08:18openedawhchkPlease split the crossing on Ko Ling Road into two sides (separated by traffic island)
22026-01-16 15:43closedvectorial8192Resolved via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177303927 ; closing.
5104381 (iD)12025-12-25 10:01opened1F616EMOEntrance to Kwai Lam Court and the mall here at surface level
22025-12-29 09:18commentedvectorial8192We don't usually do entrances into individual (residential) buildings, but we can do entrances to the mall.
32025-12-29 13:57commentedkingkingHKThe residential entrances sound like they could be `entrance=yes` + `addr:unit=` + `access=private`. They are verifiable after all. I intend to map some basic indoor footpaths in this area soon, so I guess I will also deal with the mall entrances.
42025-12-29 15:49commentedvectorial8192While we are at it, some indoor paths in this area are mapped as "indoor corridors" so OSMCarto doesn't render them.
52025-12-29 18:45commentedKovoschizIt's not "don't usually do", but "usually not done yet"
62026-01-16 15:28closedvectorial8192This time I am not gonna accidentally champion the addition of residential entrances. Such a large scope work is best left for later. Foot paths added via https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177303341 ; closing.
5128917 (iD)12026-01-14 12:12opened海豚洗衣24h(堅尼地厚和街店)Dolphin Laundry 24h(Hau Wo Street Store) 堅尼地城厚和街41號厚和閣地下c(41)鋪