27 changesets created by nikospag have been discussed with 47 replies of this contributor
Changeset # Tmstmp UTC Contributor Comment
64215407
by nikospag
@ 2018-11-06 00:39
12025-04-11 06:56Layft Greater
♦170
Hello
This edit affected Cyprus.

Could you please review?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5849234
22025-04-11 06:57Layft Greater
♦170
There might be more ways affected.
32025-04-11 07:13Layft Greater
♦170
Only one road was affected.
Fixed in changeset 164800846

Reviewed with
https://facilmap.org/#11/35.0252/32.9253/Mpnk/changeset%2064215407
42025-04-11 09:57nikospag OK. thanks for fixing it.
162761530
by nikospag
@ 2025-02-21 00:59
12025-02-21 01:21nikospag As discussed in forums here https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/mass-edits-name-el/126067
162761535
by nikospag
@ 2025-02-21 00:59
12025-02-21 01:21nikospag As discussed in forums here https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/mass-edits-name-el/126067
162761552
by nikospag
@ 2025-02-21 01:00
12025-02-21 01:10nikospag As discussed in forums here https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/mass-edits-name-el/126067
153038860
by nikospag
@ 2024-06-22 17:23
12024-06-22 17:32PeachyOne
♦21
as discussed in the forum here:
https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/mass-edit/114257/34
130721495
by nikospag
@ 2022-12-31 13:49
12022-12-31 16:25pitscheplatsch
♦5,388
revert of https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130613209
22022-12-31 17:07nikospag Done. All changesets of this user have been reverted. Thank you.
127868918
by nikospag
@ 2022-10-21 08:10
12022-11-15 14:21mueschel
♦6,562
Hi,
is this bridge built up again? It has highway and ruins:highway tags:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/117698030
22022-11-15 16:02nikospag i don't know that.
127984258
by nikospag
@ 2022-10-24 08:09
12022-10-30 06:02Karthoo
♦214
Thanks for cleaning up! Unfortunately these edits made it into my OsmAnd data and led me into a dead end...
22022-10-31 15:24nikospag Thanks for your nice comment :)
125238315
by nikospag
@ 2022-08-22 17:44
12022-08-23 09:22G626
♦2
Don't bother with the Kilkis area, let us who know these places better do our job.
82155443
by nikospag
@ 2020-03-13 09:41
12020-03-19 17:54Rick Sanchez C-137
♦10
wouldnt be better to only make the new section trunk??i dont think we are meant to make all e-roads trunk
82157402
by nikospag
@ 2020-03-13 10:22
12020-03-19 17:54Rick Sanchez C-137
♦10
wouldnt be better to only make the new section trunk??i dont think we are meant to make all e-roads trunk
82192979
by nikospag
@ 2020-03-14 13:04
12020-03-15 12:04woodpeck
♦2,417
Please stop name-calling other users.
22020-03-15 13:46Rick Sanchez C-137
♦10
i may need to report nikospag instead, the whole attitude is horrible, there are a lot of ambiguous and vague classifications and the 3 members of the greek "community" dont seem to agree on a single scheme.

This is openstreetmap not nikospag-land
32020-03-15 13:52nikospag Communitity guidelines where formed by voting in a period of 8 years. Just because you see now only 3 members, this does not mean that the 3 of us we made the rules.
In forum we talk and disagree for many things, but community rules are in the wiki for many years.
42020-03-15 14:04nikospag Also there are members that read the forum but they dont post, and we communicate with pm.

Anyway, read the our wiki pages here https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Greece , and ask if you have questions.

52020-03-15 14:04nikospag I will stop the reverts now
62020-03-16 11:08Rick Sanchez C-137
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believe me i have read everything before, i was just trying to find some sense in it, i mean why A1 turns north into a crappy 2-lane road instead of keep going straight into Thessaloniki??have you heard of the chewbacca defence??
72020-03-16 12:08nikospag You have to ask Greek Government as to why A1 turns north.
And don't try to find any sense at Greek road network.
82020-03-18 22:27Rick Sanchez C-137
♦10
can you please stop twisting EVERYTHING i say and posting in your forum, i never said A1/A2/A24 are wrong!!I am just saying it doesnt make sense, they had the chance to make everything right in the 2015 document but they actually made it worse
92020-03-18 22:29Rick Sanchez C-137
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with this attitude is no wonder there are only a couple active mappers
102020-03-18 22:53nikospag I used the word "λογικό" (sense) and not the word "λάθος" (wrong). You have some serious issues with the Greek language.
Please stop doing that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
112020-03-18 23:50nikospag And you are also saying that all these people from Greek Government that made this 2015 document were idiots!! and you are the smart one!!!!!!!!!!!!
This conversation end here.
122020-03-19 17:42Rick Sanchez C-137
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omg you are the worst, twisting everything to suit you, you accused me for talking crazy (παλαβομάρες), you are the one with language issues, this is not how human beings communicate
82215117
by nikospag
@ 2020-03-15 11:42
12020-03-15 13:39Rick Sanchez C-137
♦10
so you revert everything even though is correct???i may need to report you instead

isnt Φλώρινας - Θεσσαλονίκης the correct name for the new road???and the old section could be named old natio...
22020-03-15 14:48nikospag The trunk road replaced the old EO2. So the ref and name (Θεσσαλονίκης - Έδεσσας) of the old EO2 must go to the new road.
The old sections of EO2 must have old_ref=ΕΟ2 and be ...
32020-03-15 14:50nikospag eg Σκύδρα - Μελλίσι
42020-03-15 14:51nikospag Σκύδρα - Μελίσσι
52020-03-15 14:54nikospag That is the rule, but as you can see someone of our members didn't follow it.
62020-03-15 15:01nikospag Of course same rule also applies to the section Φλώρινα - Έδεσσα.
72020-03-15 15:03nikospag Happy mapping!!!
82020-03-15 20:16woodpeck
♦2,417
nikospag, you write "The old sections of EO2 must have old_ref=ΕΟ2 and be renamed according to local destinations." - is this a rule that comes from the Greek government or a custom among the Greek community? How does one determine *which* local destinations to use in namin...
92020-03-15 20:59nikospag I hope you are not talking seriously now. Thats a common cartography practice the we all learn in universities!!!
Is community consensus on trial?
I cant believe whats happening here!!!!!!!
102020-03-15 21:26nikospag Woodpeck you have commented at three of my changesets. Is there a problem? or am i on trial too?
112020-03-15 21:46nikospag And i want to remind you that i already had reported Rick Sanchez C-137 two-three days ago and no one even answered.
Reverting actions was the only way to get his attention to read our wiki and if he has questions to consult the community.
I have nothing more to say.
Its very sad that you behave ...
122020-03-15 22:25nikospag One last thing. And why you didn't read this road https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/160416411/history, history, the most important road in Greece to see that he changed the ref=A1 to the fictitious nat_ref=19!!! That is vandalism.
132020-03-15 22:26nikospag he changed the name too to a fictitious one.
142020-03-16 11:05Rick Sanchez C-137
♦10
I believe the community decided on this naming scheme with destinations, it is not written in stone. About Chalastra - Polykastro i still think name and ref is wrong and there are no signs anywhere, thats why i removed ref (my intention was to move EO1 in nat_ref as compromise between reality and of...
152020-03-16 11:31nikospag Apparently you have not a good knowledge of Greek language.
Do you speak Greek?
162020-03-16 12:40nikospag And about the ring road, anyone can read the Government Gazette 0f 2015. It is in our wiki.
172020-03-16 12:47nikospag Also in that document there is a map at the last page.
182020-03-16 13:26Rick Sanchez C-137
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stop trying to appear like a know-it all, i ve read the document, i m just saying it doesnt make sense and was never implemented (i mean look at A62 and A64)
192020-03-16 13:28Rick Sanchez C-137
♦10
i also have a pretty good understanding of greek, stop using it every time you dont have an answer
202020-03-16 19:59nikospag Because this getting very annoying, if someone thinks that a community's consensus is wrong, he can go to that community's forum and talk about it and vote about it. Anything else, is just malicious behavior.
END OF STORY.
82191502
by nikospag
@ 2020-03-14 11:45
12020-03-15 13:42Rick Sanchez C-137
♦10
isnt ref supposed to state the actual road ref??please find me a single sign for ΕΟ1 for this section
22020-03-15 14:22nikospag We have decided to use the ref key at national road network.

PS. I have a question. Do you speak Greek?
32020-03-16 13:28Rick Sanchez C-137
♦10
i have a pretty good understanding, stop using it every time you dont have an answer
82215317
by nikospag
@ 2020-03-15 11:51
12020-03-15 12:03woodpeck
♦2,417
nikospag, can you explain why the name "Πτολεμαίδας - Φλώρινας" is somehow "more correct" than the name "Φλώρινας - Έδεσ&...
22020-03-15 12:23nikospag The name of this road is not the main issue here. I have already reported this user 2 days ago. Please read my report.
32020-03-15 12:43nikospag And FYI the way 655441474 is part of national road ΕΟ3 and the name of this road (by Government Gazzete) is Πτολεμαίδας - Φλώρινας.
The name Φλώρινας ...
42020-03-15 12:44nikospag I have already told him to consult our community.
52020-03-15 12:53nikospag Also, the ref=EO2 must go to the trunk road too, because EO2 replaced by this trunk road.
62020-03-15 13:04nikospag And there are no signs in Greece. But that does not mean that the roads have no names.
72020-03-15 13:06nikospag Names are defined by official documents
82020-03-15 13:31Rick Sanchez C-137
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so you revert everything even though is correct??these are not made up names
92020-03-15 14:15nikospag I already answered that, above.
102020-03-15 20:01woodpeck
♦2,417
Can I see the official document that says that the street depicted by way 655441474 is officially called "Πτολεμαίδας - Φλώρινας"?
112020-03-15 21:02nikospag sure http://www.et.gr/idocs-nph/search/pdfViewerForm.html?args=5C7QrtC22wGll0stlB2BQHdtvSoClrL8-0KKDGXACJV5MXD0LzQTLf7MGgcO23N88knBzLCmTXKaO6fpVZ6Lx3UnKl3nP8NxdnJ5r9cmWyJWelDvWS_18kAEhATUkJb0x1LIdQ163nV9K--td6SIualHsHCCaehxhWkNCJEh0wx2oPDTJlijZD-JM1MRNxxR
122020-03-16 10:46Rick Sanchez C-137
♦10
i believe the official name is National Highway 3 and this is just explaining the route. The name is broken in pieces to reflect reality because lots of things have changed since 1963, especially in this area.
132020-03-16 10:56Rick Sanchez C-137
♦10
I believe the correct name is Πτολεμαίδας - Αμύνταιου and Αμύνταιου - Φλώρινας since the original route is interrupt...
82180891
by nikospag
@ 2020-03-13 21:02
12020-03-15 20:11woodpeck
♦2,417
In this changeset you have removed the "nat_ref=EO38" tag from way 698292408. Can you explain in how far this is "community consensus"; is the problem with nat_ref or does the community say EO38 is elsewhere or what is the issue?
22020-03-15 20:49nikospag Is there a problem with community consensus? We have stopped using nat_ref for more than one year now.
That was a clear community decision. Of course there was one member (as always) that didn't follow this community decision.
I cant understand why we are having this conversation!!!
32020-03-16 00:12nikospag And EO38 is here https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5663318#map=10/38.7934/21.9234 for 40 years now.
I really cant believe that we have this conversation!!!
42020-03-16 00:26nikospag * i meant 60 years
52020-03-16 00:31nikospag All of these informations are in our wiki.
82191318
by nikospag
@ 2020-03-14 11:35
12020-03-15 13:41Rick Sanchez C-137
♦10
so isnt Θεσσαλονίκης - Βέροιας the correct name???would you prefer Αθηνών - Θεσσαλονίκης like in the 60s?...
82215179
by nikospag
@ 2020-03-15 11:45
12020-03-15 13:36Rick Sanchez C-137
♦10
so you revert everything even though is correct???i may need to report you instead

isnt Φλώρινας - Θεσσαλονίκης the correct name for this road???
82215206
by nikospag
@ 2020-03-15 11:46
12020-03-15 13:35Rick Sanchez C-137
♦10
so you revert everything even though is correct???i may need to report you instead

isnt the official name Κρυσταλλοπηγής - Φλώρινας as part of EO2???
70499619
by nikospag
@ 2019-05-22 04:33
12019-06-21 12:38woodpeck
♦2,417
In the future when you revert edits, please explain clearly why you are reverting. The fact that the edits are made by one particular mapper and/or your suspicion that he might be identical to another particular mapper are not sufficient grounds for a revert; you should be able to give a concrete re...
22019-06-22 01:53nikospag Hm...i wonder why DWG bothers with a ""revert"" of just one node.
Bye Frederik.
32019-06-22 04:58nikospag PS. All real reverts (there are only a few) that i have done in 7 years, are very well commented with concrete reasons.
69326934
by nikospag
@ 2019-04-18 00:44
12019-04-27 21:02ika-chan!
♦242
Hi there, I kindly request that you be careful to ensure that the road numbers and formats are correct: you can discard the nat_ref value if it is wrong (the main motorway is numbered the A1 instead of the EO1).
22019-04-27 21:19nikospag You are right. That was happened because those ways had both nat_ref AND ref keys. It is supposed to be one OR the other and not both. So my mass edit just converted the existing nat_ref=E.O.1 to ref=E.O.1.
Thank you for noticing this.
32019-04-27 21:23nikospag Please fix them because i left the Greek community. I announced it here https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=746259#p746259
42019-04-27 21:41nikospag Map-Finder added the nat_ref key to ways that already had ref key.
History example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/477816234/history
user "deleted" is former George_Ath, (Map-Finder)
52019-04-27 22:48nikospag * i mean ways that are motorways
62019-04-28 01:23nikospag and as far as i know JayCBR changed ref keys to nat_ref only on primary and trunk roads, BUT NOT on motorways.(of course against community consensus)
64251838
by nikospag
@ 2018-11-07 05:29
12018-11-23 06:08The Duke of Waltham
♦1
I understand why you changed the bus-stop names to capital letters, but changing "Αστικό ΚΤΕΛ ΚατερΙνης" to "ΑστικΟ ΚΤΕΛ &Kap...
22018-11-23 14:32nikospag Done!!
Thank you.
36922942
by nikospag
@ 2016-01-31 18:50
12016-05-13 19:44ika-chan! UK-USA
♦76
Hi, I do not remember all parts of the A7 being lit are night.
22016-05-14 15:48nikospag If you know wihich parts are not lit go ahead and fix them. Thanks
37116820
by nikospag
@ 2016-02-10 04:08
12016-02-13 20:43zool
♦50
Following up from my comment on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37090506 - have you discussed these mechanical edits in advance with the wider community as advised in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct ?
37090506
by nikospag
@ 2016-02-08 21:58
12016-02-13 20:40zool
♦50
dear nikospag,

This looks like a really large and significant mechanical edit. Has this change in tag been discussed on a mailing list or forum and a consensus reached with others mapping the road network in Greece?

There are guidelines for large-scale automated edits here: https://wiki.openst...
36620716
by nikospag
@ 2016-01-16 18:14
12016-01-16 22:46nikospag I meant bus route 049 minor fixes
36584568
by nikospag
@ 2016-01-15 04:09
12016-01-15 04:29nikospag Wrong description by my fault.
The word "Λεωφόρος" deleted from all streets (Piraeus). It remains only in tag official_name. Tags addr:street have been also corrected.