51 changesets created by HolloWorld have been discussed with 17 replies of this contributor
Changeset # Tmstmp UTC Contributor Comment
165050327
by HolloWorld
@ 2025-04-17 00:55
12025-04-17 07:25Kovoschiz
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1. Please use descriptive upload comments, and not reuse the same as before. You are mostly editing buildings here.
2. You broken the 3D modeling here. Please study how `building:part=` are used before you touch them. Most `building=` in HK are "wrong" as they are a legacy of older meth...
142621174
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-10-15 14:47
12024-09-28 09:31Kovoschiz
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`parking:*:restriction:reason=driveway` is used for `=service` roads. There is clearly none here.
22024-09-29 11:02Kovoschiz
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2. `=priority_road` refers to `priority_road=yes` diamond signs in Europe. That's not used in HK.
156237508
by HolloWorld
@ 2024-09-05 15:44
12024-09-28 09:18Kovoschiz
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`substation=` `=distribution` is for larger district level ones. `=minor_distribution` should be used for buildings and sites.
156882653
by HolloWorld
@ 2024-09-20 18:51
12024-09-21 05:52Kovoschiz
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Please don't merge blindly. Tsing Lai Bridge, and Kwai Chung Park Viaduct are 2 different sections.
22024-09-21 05:58Kovoschiz
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2. Please don't simply align elevated features to aerial imagery exactly. They are offset. Should be checked against shadows projected on ground.
32024-09-21 06:03Kovoschiz
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2. It can be seen the older Esri Clarity has a different orthorectification
42024-09-21 06:05Kovoschiz
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3. Please don't add `layer=` to `building=` and `building:part=` , which are already handled by `building:levels=` etc
52024-09-21 07:33Kovoschiz
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4. `substation=distribution` is used for large ones. This should be a `=`minor_distribution` , or `=industrial` depending.
153339541
by HolloWorld
@ 2024-06-29 16:32
12024-06-30 03:51Kovoschiz
♦2,537
Please use descriptive upload comments, not something unrelated to the main topic as "roads"
151968127
by HolloWorld
@ 2024-05-29 01:55
12024-05-29 05:34Kovoschiz
♦2,537
Please don't connect left-turn slip lanes to the same point of the main lanes. This distorts the left turn.
151834951
by HolloWorld
@ 2024-05-26 04:25
12024-05-26 17:46Kovoschiz
♦2,537
1. You removed the learner driver restriction
2. The *:lanes:conditional=` syntax is wrong. JOSM has a bug. That's not what is complaining.
22024-05-29 01:57HolloWorld 1. learner driver can start from Fu Tin Lane to Lion Rock Country Park Parking/World-Wide Gardens without hitting any prohibited sign
2. added lanes:bus.
140109670
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-08-19 20:25
12024-01-17 04:02Kovoschiz
♦2,537
The left-turn slip lane and flyover forms the main route of Castle Peak Rd. Network-wise, Kam Tin Rd can be considered a fork.
144429391
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-11-25 05:15
12023-11-25 16:04Kovoschiz
♦2,537
1. Please don't use `=permit` for "Except with permit" in HK. It means at most `=private` almost every time.
2. Please don't change `vehicle=` to `access=` . This means pedestrians are affected as well, without overriding.
143913702
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-11-11 20:15
12023-11-12 09:20Kovoschiz
♦2,537
1. `access=private` includes `foot=private` and `bicycle=private` unless you override them.
2. `destination:country=` is documented.
143894104
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-11-11 10:45
12023-11-12 09:15Kovoschiz
♦2,537
Why are you removing some `turn:lanes=` ?
142682075
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-10-16 19:57
12023-10-17 06:13Kovoschiz
♦2,537
Why changing `=apartments` to `=residential` ?
22023-10-17 08:29HolloWorld Comment from Kovoschiz 2 days ago

Please don't use `residential=apartments` for single buildings. It's defined for housing estates.

32023-10-17 10:16Kovoschiz
♦2,537
It is obviously meant for `landuse=residential` + `residential=` ....
42023-10-17 10:18Kovoschiz
♦2,537
`building=apartments` is an apartment building. However `residential=apartments` is an apartment complex that's basically defined for multi-building housing estates.
142368055
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-10-09 22:05
12023-10-16 04:03Patrickov
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Why the hell did you remove the building tag of way 449069575? Do you know all building:part need to have a building way enclosing them in order to render properly?
22023-10-16 19:04HolloWorld hand mistake, not intended to remove building tag
32023-10-17 01:47Patrickov
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Noted and thanks. Please add it back when you have time. Apologies for the impulsive comment and myself being busy IRL.
142587270
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-10-14 17:57
12023-10-15 05:48Kovoschiz
♦2,537
Please don't use `residential=apartments` for single buildings. It's defined for housing estates.
142323099
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-10-08 23:44
12023-10-09 11:44Kovoschiz
♦2,537
As I have said before, please don't change the `name=` to compose housing estate + building name. This is an application issue.
142286527
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-10-07 23:19
12023-10-08 11:46Kovoschiz
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Please don't remove the `addr:street=` . They are done for a specific purpose for HK. Street naming usually applies until the gore, so the section is actually Lion Rock Tunnel Rd. But logically and routing-wise, it should be considered Shatin Rd. However, using `official_name=` is unclear.
22023-10-08 11:47Kovoschiz
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We touched upon this issue now https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/142112318
141631443
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-09-23 07:25
12023-09-23 11:00Kovoschiz
♦2,537
Again, please don't draw pencil tip intersections. This is already easier because of the one-way single carriageway. Simply connect the straight direction directly, and connect the opposite direction separately to the road to make a box like everywhere else.
141280400
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-09-15 00:35
12023-09-15 02:38Patrickov
♦103
You broke KMB 8A routing again!
22023-09-15 04:13Patrickov
♦103
Fixed KMB 8A at changeset 141283404
141237928
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-09-14 04:42
12023-09-14 09:25Kovoschiz
♦2,537
Please don't use `=*_link` when they connect to different classes of roads. Eg Oi King St is not `=primary`.
22023-09-14 23:43Patrickov
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It also breaks KMB 5C, 8 and 8A TST bound routing. Apparently you forgot that not all bus routes enter from the big roads.
32023-09-15 02:37Patrickov
♦103
Bus routing of KMB 5C, 8 and 8A fixed in changesets 141279561 and 141279641 respectively.
42023-09-15 02:43Patrickov
♦103
Yet you broke KMB 8A again in change 141280400.
141232421
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-09-13 22:49
12023-09-14 09:21Kovoschiz
♦2,537
!. While separate `addr:housenumber=` points is more detailed, you can still keep the main address used on the area. This aligns with the common practice in HK.
2. Please don't delete `shop=` / `amenity=` points as they still represent a shop space. Moreover, some have an address, especially...
141109746
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-09-11 12:17
12023-09-11 14:36Kovoschiz
♦2,537
1. The issue of `=motorway_junction` on restricted lane change braided ramps is quite uncertain. I discussed with Apple or some company once before. It is desirable not to duplicate it, while in this case North Point on-slip needs to be considered too. Now I imagine some form of `destination:*=` on ...
22023-09-11 23:39Patrickov
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This change has broken at least 5 bus routes.
32023-09-12 00:08Patrickov
♦103
Fixed 12 bus route relations broken by this change through https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/141137245
42023-09-13 01:46HolloWorld 1. junction:ref cannot replace motorway_junction as it's tagging which way is the exit. On some multiple numbered exit on same node position (e.g. WHT HK exit EHT KLN exit) both or even 3 way have exit number.
2. it's to rollback to support application that only use highway=speed_camera o...
52023-09-13 01:56Patrickov
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@HolloWorld:

I figured out that it's not JOSM's fault.

Instead, when you split a way with relations, you should first download all ways immediately connected to the affected way(s) in the same layer. Otherwise, JOSM will only re-arrange relation members according to the direction of...
140864189
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-09-05 18:47
12023-09-06 05:29Kovoschiz
♦2,537
`destination:ref=` is only used when the outgoing road is immediately that `ref=` . Otherwise the routing towards that is `destination:ref:to=` .
140539558
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-08-29 12:31
12023-09-05 01:59Patrickov
♦103
If that section of road was closed bus companies would have issued notice on bus stop re-location, but I didn't find any. Are you sure you are right?
22023-09-05 15:54Patrickov
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Okay I found some official notice which probably supports your change to Mong Kok Road. However, you did it in a very crude way, not even bothering to tidy up the bus routes involved in that section. Please at least move the bus stop position nodes and re-route the involved bus routes. And try no...
32023-09-05 15:59Patrickov
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I had moved the node and re-routed the routes to make them consistent for now in changeset 140857575
140641952
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-08-31 15:41
12023-08-31 17:48Kovoschiz
♦2,537
Please don't add the estate name to the `building=` . This is not the common practice, and makes the data more complicated.
22023-09-01 08:07HolloWorld From wiki "...the primary name would be the most obvious name of the feature, the one that end users expect data consumers to expose in a label or other interface element."

As to me saw few hundred building only tagging as "block 1" and the navigation app do not add the estate...
32023-09-01 12:15Kovoschiz
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1. That isn't relevant here. If you follow by the books, you would look at `addr:housename=` . Besides, another rule is not to artificially make composite names, ie combining different features' names.
2. It's the best option. All this does is make managing building names more compl...
42023-09-01 12:16Kovoschiz
♦2,537
There are many address formats which applications may not support. Even for UK. And HK is more complicated than UK in some sense.
52023-09-01 12:21Kovoschiz
♦2,537
1. Any GIS or geo-database application could do a spatial join to append the `landuse=residential` `name=` to `building=`. On the contrary, you can't remove them as easily when considering button and label names, which creates clutter. Bus routes has the same problem.
140466604
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-08-27 20:01
12023-08-31 00:04Kovoschiz
♦2,537
Please notice that `residential=apartments` is described for housing estates, and that's how it's used in HK. Don't use it on single building ones.
140347400
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-08-25 01:13
12023-08-25 18:24Kovoschiz
♦2,537
1. Please don't delete and redraw to pencil-tip shape intersections. This unneccessarily distorts the left turns, and will confuse routers and applications. At least you don't need to modify the ground-level southbound. https://labs.mapbox.com/mapping/mapping-for-navigation/modeling-inters...
22023-08-25 18:25Kovoschiz
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2. And please split your uploads. They are unrelated.
140204302
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-08-22 00:12
12023-08-22 13:33Kovoschiz
♦2,537
Please don't use change `bicycle=` from `=no` to `=use_sidepath` when there is no `=cycleway`. Legally, you are not allowed to bike on sidewalks.
138208877
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-07-07 01:31
12023-07-17 23:18Patrickov
♦103
Hi, your change has broken a few bus routes. I only found them out when OSM Inspector keeps yelling that certain routes are "invalid" over the past few days.

If you are altering ways, please take care of the relations using them. Thanks.
22023-07-31 20:09Kovoschiz
♦2,537
Please don't draw pencil tip shaped intersections with divided islands by connecting them to a single point. This distorts the turn geometry, and will confuse some applications. It's also ugly.
32023-07-31 20:10Kovoschiz
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2. The `=secondary` should be kept in the intersection.
42023-07-31 20:13Kovoschiz
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3. `maxlength=12` is already added on the Yan Cheung Rd right-turn. There's no need to add a redundant `restriction:conditional=no_right_turn @ length > 12`
4. Please split your uploads.
138780602
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-07-20 19:16
12023-07-21 05:14Kovoschiz
♦2,537
Please stop shitposting with here. Useless upload comments are not "allowed" by community convention and expectations.
138313467
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-07-09 22:22
12023-07-10 03:06Patrickov
♦103
Hi, what bug did you fix?
22023-07-10 03:09Patrickov
♦103
1. Please be more precise on what you have done, especially that the stuff you touched (or the changes you made in each object) are not necessarily related to each other.

2. I know sometimes people make stupid changes, but even in that case please put something meaningful in "source". ...
32023-07-10 07:41Patrickov
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Clarification: For point 2, I mean even if people make stupid changes that frustrate you so that you need to revert them back, I wish you to state more clearly on what have you reverted -- a single sentence describing, say, what tag is removed, is enough. Sorry for any confusion caused.
42023-07-10 09:23Kovoschiz
♦2,537
1. For that, please start by working and uploading them separately.
2. `source=` is not forbidden to be funny. Eg `source=brain`.
3. For information, I'm undecided on adding `motor_vehicle:backward=no` to contra-flow bus lanes due to historic reasons, overlapping meaning, and uncertain comp...
52023-07-10 09:58HolloWorld A1+2. private reason, or PM me
A3. I just copy what are on sign, also if it's counter-flow bus lane then it is oneway=no
A4. lazy, will change from next time
62023-07-10 10:01HolloWorld also I have to publicly criticize kovoschiz that you have to reply what I response or I have to ask is your brain working
72023-07-10 13:14Kovoschiz
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What does that mean anyway?
1. What's wrong with telling you to upload them in different changesets?
82023-07-10 13:15Kovoschiz
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2. Unfortunately that's not what's recommended https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:oneway#Possible_tagging_mistakes
138042077
by HolloWorld
@ 2023-07-02 23:34
12023-07-03 07:47Patrickov
♦103
Hi, what bug did you fix?
22023-07-03 09:59Kovoschiz
♦2,537
You removed the `turn:lanes=` , `bicycle=no` , and `share_taxi=no` here alongside.
32023-07-03 10:03Kovoschiz
♦2,537
2. `access=yes` is much desirable for clarifying publicly usable `=footway` + `indoor=yes` , although mall ones could be `=permissive` depending on interpretation. If they are not public passageway under the land lease or deeds of dedication, that is.
42023-07-07 06:48HolloWorld confused drivers found out that using access=yes cause vehicle drive on footway. / imo doubt people use osm data to use on legal aspect, and I missed using [access=yes,motor_vehicle=no] / I have no info of not allowing share_taxi (or just select all road in hk and [share_taxi=no]) or placing bicycle...
125229873
by HolloWorld
@ 2022-08-22 14:22
12022-08-23 11:11渤海西岸
♦22
太专业了,膜拜
125079299
by HolloWorld
@ 2022-08-18 20:11
12022-08-19 08:15mueschel
♦6,567
Hi,
I found these keys on many objects:
name:zh-hans
name:zh-hant

The correct spelling is
name:zh-Hans
name:zh-Hant
(scripts always start with a capital letter). Could you check and correct this?
22022-08-19 11:04HolloWorld hi, this is a manual editing using josm searching system. I will change it to zh-Hant/Hant asap. thanks.
32022-08-19 14:40mueschel
♦6,567
I used 'script' as in 'writing system' or 'alphabet'. Not with the meaning of an automated edit in OSM.

Sorry for the confusion about that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Script_(Unicode)
121118288
by HolloWorld
@ 2022-05-17 21:12
12022-05-19 07:16琉璃百合
♦50
Hello, HolloWorld

Could you explain the meaning of this changeset comment "rd w/ Fe"? It will help other mapper found which changes were made. Thank you!
22022-05-22 12:36西园寺铃
♦55
Road, made with iron (Fe)
119687422
by HolloWorld
@ 2022-04-13 22:13
12022-04-14 07:42Herman Lee
♦312
建议您使用更简洁、更清楚、更能让其他绘图者能够抓取到编辑集信息的描述方法来解释您的编辑集,谢谢!
22022-05-07 12:23真空中的球形猫
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似乎这也没必要出警吧,又不是和我一样那种骂人的话,Herman有没有考虑过开发一套自动识别变更然后生成得体而简单扼要的changeset描述的工具?(不能是OSMAnd那种 Add 1 xxx, 2 yyy, 3 zzz的堆叠罗列,因为那也不简洁,也容易被吐槽...
120133633
by HolloWorld
@ 2022-04-24 17:42
12022-04-25 01:10Herman Lee
♦312
似乎您可以写一个更合适的评论。。。
119687064
by HolloWorld
@ 2022-04-13 21:55
12022-04-14 07:41Herman Lee
♦312
建议您使用更简洁、更清楚、更能让其他绘图者能够抓取到编辑集信息的描述方法来解释您的编辑集,谢谢!
22022-04-14 16:55HolloWorld 就你的要求已把鐵路少女除牌。
119707448
by HolloWorld
@ 2022-04-14 10:54
12022-04-14 12:26Herman Lee
♦312
建议您使用更简洁、更清楚、更能让其他绘图者能够抓取到编辑集信息的描述方法来解释您的编辑集,谢谢!
119687399
by HolloWorld
@ 2022-04-13 22:12
12022-04-14 07:42Herman Lee
♦312
建议您使用更简洁、更清楚、更能让其他绘图者能够抓取到编辑集信息的描述方法来解释您的编辑集,谢谢!
112473120
by HolloWorld
@ 2021-10-13 17:59
12021-10-14 03:45Kovoschiz
♦2,537
`traffic_signals:turn=` means the arrow displayed, not what movement it applies to. You can't use it like this.
22021-10-14 03:57Kovoschiz
♦2,537
Don't mix up the syntax of `*:conditional=` and `parking:condition` in `parking:lane=` (older ). There has been a proposal trying to fix this.
32021-10-14 05:10HolloWorld there is no better way to show how seperated traffic signal stop line on same road, the wiki page also said it should be tagged this and add note, imo there are 2 signal very near, should can be represented what it is when needed to change tag.
42021-10-14 05:17HolloWorld after check taginfo, i think we should have a discussion on how those road side stopping sign to be tagged before adding more. at the time i suggest 'parking:condition:left=no_stopping'+'parking:condition:left:time_interval=bruh' or any other comments ?
112401334
by HolloWorld
@ 2021-10-12 06:15
12021-10-12 12:54Kovoschiz
♦2,537
`access=permit` is not correct when `access=` covers all modes, and `=permit` should mean a license obtainable (this should not be blindly applied in HK as `=private` also uses "permit" sign)
22021-10-13 16:23HolloWorld it's not just bus can enter bus also bus company owened private car and repair vehicle. so i'm confused, checked wiki, will use private since.
112395013
by HolloWorld
@ 2021-10-11 23:50
12021-10-12 12:47Kovoschiz
♦2,537
You need to use brackets to represent new lane in `connectivity=*:*,(*)|*`
22021-10-13 16:17HolloWorld your useful information had been receivied and will be use since next time !
112394740
by HolloWorld
@ 2021-10-11 23:23
12021-10-12 12:46Kovoschiz
♦2,537
`type=turnlanes:turns` is obsolete, abandoned, and confusing. You should use `placement=transition` and `width:start=` + `width:end=`
22021-10-12 12:49Kovoschiz
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It's very arbitrary to re-align only certain objects, ie roads, to a certain imagery, without any reference in the entire area.
32021-10-13 16:17HolloWorld I'm using GPX source at the same time, didn't mention in comment.
59645212
by HolloWorld
@ 2018-06-07 18:07
12021-02-15 14:34marc__marc
♦1,265
Hello,
do you know the ref and the network of this line https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8364362 ?
Regards,
Marc
22021-02-19 12:29Kovoschiz
♦2,537
That's an old changeset. There's usually no `ref=` and `network=` for the smaller outlying island ferry service ("kaito" street crossings), both scheduled and on-demand ones.
61557845
by HolloWorld
@ 2018-08-11 05:33
12021-01-12 10:17katpatuka
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Hello HolloWorld, You've tagged lots of 'grave yards' around here: https://osm.org/node/5824763178 ... A graveyard is an area of graves or tombs so may be you should tag them all as cemetery=grave (see osmwiki) and tag the whole area as amenity=grave_yard + landuse=cemetery. It's...
66084899
by HolloWorld
@ 2019-01-07 03:08
12019-01-08 22:59HolloWorld title is wrong, just used for uploading before my josm crash and can't save or type in anything
59922557
by HolloWorld
@ 2018-06-17 20:01
12018-06-17 20:24HolloWorld Going to revert.
22018-06-17 20:34HolloWorld https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/59923065
59658312
by HolloWorld
@ 2018-06-08 07:15
12018-06-08 07:31HolloWorld 西貢西郊野公園上線啦!
甕缸群島特別地區在線修正 陪你high翻天
給你全新的糧船灣特別地區體驗
55501687
by HolloWorld
@ 2018-01-16 18:39
12018-01-16 18:43HolloWorld Also didn't change that Shun Lee Tsuen Road and Hip Wo Street have no barrier between upbound and downbound, since I am rubbish so I won't remove them and set bus route and etc. again
54475937
by HolloWorld
@ 2017-12-09 04:38
12017-12-09 10:0223248453
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A guide on modelling using aerial imagery: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Roof_modelling
53811593
by HolloWorld
@ 2017-11-15 18:03
12017-12-03 16:2223248453
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請注意當衛星不是在正上方,可看到建築物側面時,不要將建築物側面也描繪出來。地圖上應當是建築物的平面圖。同時要留心衛星影像的位置偏移。
22017-12-03 16:3023248453
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例如這個:https://aleung.github.io/osm-visual-history/#/way/496481783 (我已恢復,show more 可以看到區別)
32017-12-04 05:36HolloWorld Thanks for the advises !