nikospag participated in the following changeset discussionsnikospag participated in the following changeset discussions| Changeset | # | Tmstmp UTC | Contributor | Comment |
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| 151127350 by ika-chan! @ 2024-05-10 05:39 | 1 | 2025-04-13 19:52 | sheldonelectric ♦178 | @ika-chan! here you have a concrete example where transliteration was a bad idea. Your transliteration was IVI but the official int_name is HBH according to their website https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2786684222 if somebody was looking for HBH (with latin characters) the search would give no re... |
| 2 | 2025-04-14 07:15 | ika-chan! ♦242 | I think OASA telematics is wrong on that one, because neither the sign or ISO 843 transliterates "ΗΒΗ" to "HBH". ISO 843 transliterates to "IVI" while the sign on the ground says "IBI", which I think is a proofreading error. | |
| 3 | 2025-04-14 19:50 | sheldonelectric ♦178 | I'm not sure what you mean "on the ground" because the bus stop signs only have hellenic alphabet.... I'm using OASA telematics because you prompted me to! | |
| 4 | 2025-04-14 20:08 | ika-chan! ♦242 | The bus stop in question has the new telematics sign with a transliteration under the display: https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=155682059852880&lat=38.047122179108&lng=23.807580644422&z=17&focus=photo&x=0.9192711115323823&y=0.4626969546625346&zoom=2.9381096328510843 | |
| 5 | 2025-04-15 10:46 | sheldonelectric ♦178 | I see. So we're supposed to make a survey for each and every bus stop? There's still a lot of bus routes which have changed after they were put on osm. I cannot ride all these buses and survey the spelling of the stops. For now I'd rather just copy telematics, and copy them again late... | |
| 6 | 2025-04-15 15:11 | nikospag | No you dont need a survey.We ALWAYS follow ISO 843 for transliteration. | |
| 7 | 2025-04-17 12:08 | sheldonelectric ♦178 | Then feel free to correct what I copy/pasted from the official website. | |
| 64215407 by nikospag @ 2018-11-06 00:39 | 1 | 2025-04-11 06:56 | Layft Greater ♦170 | HelloThis edit affected Cyprus.Could you please review?https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5849234 |
| 2 | 2025-04-11 06:57 | Layft Greater ♦170 | There might be more ways affected. | |
| 3 | 2025-04-11 07:13 | Layft Greater ♦170 | Only one road was affected.Fixed in changeset 164800846Reviewed with https://facilmap.org/#11/35.0252/32.9253/Mpnk/changeset%2064215407 | |
| 4 | 2025-04-11 09:57 | nikospag | OK. thanks for fixing it. | |
| 47511905 by ika-chan! @ 2017-04-06 15:45 | 1 | 2025-04-07 12:07 | sheldonelectric ♦178 | Hey there, as I haven't seen it on the street sign, I wanted to ask your source for the name:fr ; name:enosm.org/way/245250248/history |
| 2 | 2025-04-07 14:43 | ika-chan! ♦242 | https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/164638568 | |
| 3 | 2025-04-08 11:24 | sheldonelectric ♦178 | από ερωτήσεις που κάνω σε ξένους, από που προκύπτουν τα ονόμ... | |
| 4 | 2025-04-08 21:22 | ika-chan! ♦242 | I already corrected the translation error for you, even though the names "Alexander the Great" and "Alexandre le Grand" are common human knowledge in the respective linguistic communities. I remain available at your disposal. | |
| 5 | 2025-04-09 16:28 | nikospag | @DWGI reported sheldonelectric last month because he was deleting foreign languages and you did nothing.Now this user keeps deleting languages. | |
| 6 | 2025-04-09 16:51 | nikospag | @ika-chan!You should report him too. | |
| 7 | 2025-04-10 11:26 | sheldonelectric ♦178 | I have asked a lot of foreign contributors about the languages they added, and absolutely none of them provided a source.@DWG I have reported nikospag last month because he added 26500 wrong names for his (wrongly set) consumer to work better. | |
| 162761530 by nikospag @ 2025-02-21 00:59 | 1 | 2025-02-21 01:21 | nikospag | As discussed in forums here https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/mass-edits-name-el/126067 |
| 162761535 by nikospag @ 2025-02-21 00:59 | 1 | 2025-02-21 01:21 | nikospag | As discussed in forums here https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/mass-edits-name-el/126067 |
| 162761552 by nikospag @ 2025-02-21 01:00 | 1 | 2025-02-21 01:10 | nikospag | As discussed in forums here https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/mass-edits-name-el/126067 |
| 151631798 by TVGRECCE @ 2024-05-21 14:32 Active block | 1 | 2024-05-24 08:20 | nikospag | Changeset 151631798 reverted |
| 151628285 by TVGRECCE @ 2024-05-21 13:15 Active block | 1 | 2024-05-24 07:02 | ika-chan! ♦242 | Please stop splitting highways only separated by hatched lines: please see: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dual_carriageway |
| 2 | 2024-05-24 08:11 | nikospag | Changeset reverted | |
| 151014345 by Hamilton 44 @ 2024-05-07 14:38 Active block | 1 | 2024-05-09 10:33 | nikospag | Changeset reverted |
| 2 | 2024-06-15 22:29 | woodpeck_repair ♦33,903 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 152740214, 152740288, 152740274, 152740234, 152740192, 152740169, 152740167, 152740249, 152740178 where the changeset comment is: revert contributions by Hamilton 44/Delta Evas ALL, see https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/16207 | |
| 151049687 by Hamilton 44 @ 2024-05-08 11:05 Active block | 1 | 2024-05-09 10:28 | nikospag | Changeset reverted |
| 2 | 2024-06-15 22:29 | woodpeck_repair ♦33,903 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 152740214, 152740288, 152740274, 152740234, 152740192, 152740169, 152740167, 152740249, 152740178 where the changeset comment is: revert contributions by Hamilton 44/Delta Evas ALL, see https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/16207 | |
| 151014247 by Hamilton 44 @ 2024-05-07 14:36 Active block | 1 | 2024-05-09 10:21 | nikospag | reverted |
| 2 | 2024-06-15 22:29 | woodpeck_repair ♦33,903 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 152740214, 152740288, 152740274, 152740234, 152740192, 152740169, 152740167, 152740249, 152740178 where the changeset comment is: revert contributions by Hamilton 44/Delta Evas ALL, see https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/16207 | |
| 135789613 by Γιάννης 10 @ 2023-05-06 19:33 Active block | 1 | 2023-05-17 04:29 | nikospag | Changeset 135789613 reverted: Vandalism.@DWG |
| 132046828 by JTE Dimandix @ 2023-02-03 15:25 | 1 | 2023-02-28 20:58 | ika-chan! ♦242 | Please, stop adding roads that do not exist: we cannot accept roads where construction has not even started yet. If you continue to add non-existent roads, we may have to consider moderator action, that is, if anyone really pays attention to the damage that fantasy roads can cause to our reputation. |
| 2 | 2023-03-02 19:54 | nikospag | Δεν χαρτογραφούμε δρόμους υπό μελέτη των οποίων η κατασκ&epsi... | |
| 132454316 by a1230570st3 @ 2023-02-12 16:50 Active block | 1 | 2023-02-15 03:20 | nikospag | Πάλι εδώ είσαι εσύ??????? |
| 131831589 by a1230570st @ 2023-01-29 08:05 | 1 | 2023-01-30 18:29 | marczoutendijk ♦2,755 | https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1136121471/historyWhat is the source for this road?Ποια είναι η πηγή αυτού του δρόμου; |
| 2 | 2023-01-30 20:19 | nikospag | Πάλι προσπαθείς να παρακάμψεις τα προηγούμενα block.Όσο είμαι &eps... | |
| 130721495 by nikospag @ 2022-12-31 13:49 | 1 | 2022-12-31 16:25 | pitscheplatsch ♦5,393 | revert of https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/130613209 |
| 2 | 2022-12-31 17:07 | nikospag | Done. All changesets of this user have been reverted. Thank you. | |
| 129008860 by stratostouvlas2022 @ 2022-11-16 19:48 Active block | 1 | 2022-11-17 04:52 | nikospag | @DWG I am confident that this guy is G626 and he tries to circumvent the block again. He is doing imaginary edits. |
| 2 | 2022-11-17 09:31 | marczoutendijk_repair ♦11,120 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 129028955 where the changeset comment is: DWG revert for repeated vandalism and circumventing user block | |
| 3 | 2022-11-18 16:44 | marczoutendijk ♦2,755 | For a reaction from the blocked user, please read this:https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/concerns-about-edits-by-user-g626/4223/53?u=marczoutendijk | |
| 128899130 by stratostouvlas2022 @ 2022-11-14 16:08 Active block | 1 | 2022-11-16 20:11 | nikospag | @DWG I am confident that this guy is G626 and he tries to circumvent the block again. He is doing imaginary edits. |
| 2 | 2022-11-17 08:28 | marczoutendijk ♦2,755 | https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/6543Marc Zoutendijk OpenStreetMap Foundation Data Working Group | |
| 3 | 2022-11-17 09:31 | marczoutendijk_repair ♦11,120 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 129028955 where the changeset comment is: DWG revert for repeated vandalism and circumventing user block | |
| 127868918 by nikospag @ 2022-10-21 08:10 | 1 | 2022-11-15 14:21 | mueschel ♦6,567 | Hi,is this bridge built up again? It has highway and ruins:highway tags:https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/117698030 |
| 2 | 2022-11-15 16:02 | nikospag | i don't know that. | |
| 127984258 by nikospag @ 2022-10-24 08:09 | 1 | 2022-10-30 06:02 | Karthoo ♦214 | Thanks for cleaning up! Unfortunately these edits made it into my OsmAnd data and led me into a dead end... |
| 2 | 2022-10-31 15:24 | nikospag | Thanks for your nice comment :) | |
| 127921094 by gasz @ 2022-10-22 12:50 Active block | 1 | 2022-10-22 15:38 | nikospag | @DWG I am confident that is user is the same with blocked "users" gaspertv02 and G626 |
| 2 | 2022-10-22 15:57 | marczoutendijk_repair ♦11,120 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 127927635 where the changeset comment is: DWG revert: All edits by this user trying to circumvent block on another account. | |
| 127913141 by gaspertv02 @ 2022-10-22 08:47 Active block | 1 | 2022-10-22 09:27 | nikospag | O Α/Δ ΑΡΤΑΣ ΤΡΙΚΑΛΩΝ είναι ακόμα υπό κατασκευή. |
| 2 | 2022-10-22 13:03 | nikospag | @DWG We have a new vandalizer | |
| 3 | 2022-10-22 14:56 | marczoutendijk_repair ♦11,120 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 127925608 where the changeset comment is: DWG revert: All edits by this user trying to circumvent block on another account. | |
| 127916565 by gaspertv02 @ 2022-10-22 10:35 Active block | 1 | 2022-10-22 13:01 | nikospag | Please stop vandalizing the map. |
| 2 | 2022-10-22 13:02 | nikospag | @DWG We have a new vandalizer | |
| 3 | 2022-10-22 13:49 | marczoutendijk ♦2,755 | https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/6471 | |
| 4 | 2022-10-22 14:56 | marczoutendijk_repair ♦11,120 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 127925608 where the changeset comment is: DWG revert: All edits by this user trying to circumvent block on another account. | |
| 127351986 by G626 @ 2022-10-11 10:49 | 1 | 2022-10-13 17:32 | marczoutendijk ♦2,755 | What is your source for the changes here?Marc Zoutendijk OpenStreetMap Foundation Data Working Group |
| 2 | 2022-10-16 19:56 | nikospag | Changeset reverted: Fictitious bypass in Alistrati | |
| 3 | 2022-10-17 21:21 | nikospag | @DWGWe (Greek Community) are upset about his edits and his behavior in geberal. He keeps vandalizing the map for more than 3 months now.There is a conversation in our forum https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/concerns-about-edits-by-user-g626/4223 | |
| 4 | 2022-10-18 10:25 | G626 ♦2 | I passed by some time ago and saw it with my own eyes, what a shaky proof of this there is. When I pass by again I will take pictures to show you so that there are also documents in this regard. | |
| 5 | 2022-10-18 19:02 | andrewwiseman ♦423 | There was a similar issue here https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/127208481 | |
| 6 | 2022-10-18 19:41 | marczoutendijk ♦2,755 | https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/6459Marc Zoutendijk OpenStreetMap Foundation Data Working Group | |
| 7 | 2022-10-19 01:41 | ika-chan! ♦242 | Shaky proof? Although Sentinel Playground is not suitable for mapping on OSM, they are very recent enough for a different purpose of uncovering fictitious edits. If those bypasses were real, Sentinel Playground would have shown it right now, and that would then be a cue to begin verifying the alignm... | |
| 125725693 by G626 @ 2022-09-03 07:46 | 1 | 2022-09-03 11:21 | nikospag | Μην αλλάζεις το classification των οδών σε παρακαλώ. Δεν είμαστε βλάκ&epsilo... |
| 125231458 by G626 @ 2022-08-22 14:57 | 1 | 2022-08-22 17:47 | nikospag | This is not a national road. so it cant be "primary". Please read our Wiki before you classify roads |
| 122407770 by TIPD @ 2022-06-15 09:20 | 1 | 2022-06-23 09:32 | nikospag | Changeset reverted because is against general consensus |
| 2 | 2022-08-01 10:28 | nikospag | No. It is EO4a. Its not even a national road. | |
| 124236506 by G626 @ 2022-07-29 15:14 | 1 | 2022-07-29 17:34 | nikospag | Please don't classify parts of roads when they do no connect with a road of the same class or higher. These parts of roads are called "island roads" and the make no sense at all. |
| 2 | 2022-07-29 17:35 | nikospag | Changeset reverted because is against community consensus. | |
| 3 | 2022-07-29 22:32 | nikospag | https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Greece/Highways#Classificationhttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/El:Greece#%CE%9F%CE%B4%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8C_%CE%B4%CE%AF%CE%BA%CF%84%CF%85%CE%BF_2 | |
| 4 | 2022-07-30 00:04 | nikospag | Έχω την εντύπωση οτι έχεις μπερδευτεί.Η ταξινόμηση των οδών στ... | |
| 5 | 2022-07-30 00:08 | nikospag | Αν έχεις απορίες ρώτα στο forum μας:https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=27 | |
| 122979842 by Thanosmed @ 2022-06-29 02:41 | 1 | 2022-06-30 19:42 | ika-chan! ♦242 | Hello, why do you remove stops from train relations and delete public transport stop relations (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/14007291/history)? They are an important part of the public transport system. |
| 2 | 2022-06-30 22:50 | Thanosmed ♦3 | Hello. Have you carefully examined the kind of changes I have done, based on the real Greek railway system? In the specific case you are mentioning, I have changed the train halt / request to a train station, because this is what it is. Besides that, I have added way a lot more details regarding thi... | |
| 3 | 2022-06-30 23:56 | nikospag | Δεν σου είπε να μην προσθέσεις λεπτομέρειες για το Σιδ&e... | |
| 4 | 2022-06-30 23:58 | nikospag | *καλό θα ήταν | |
| 5 | 2022-07-01 00:07 | nikospag | @ThanosmedΕπίσης όλη η κοινότητα είναι θορυβημένη διότι δεν ακολο&ups... | |
| 6 | 2022-07-01 00:08 | Thanosmed ♦3 | Καμία αντίρρηση. Τον γνωρίζω αυτόν τον κανόνα. Το tag "public_transport=stop_position" άλλα... | |
| 7 | 2022-07-01 00:12 | Thanosmed ♦3 | Δεν έχω πρόθεση να αναστατώσω όλη την κοινότητα. Απενανατίας ν&... | |
| 8 | 2022-07-01 00:24 | nikospag | Αντε πάλι!!!!Σου είπε οτι διέγραψες τα relation.Γνωρίζεις τι είναι... | |
| 9 | 2022-07-01 00:28 | Thanosmed ♦3 | Καλώς. Βρήκα αυτό: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Railway_stationsΘα προσπαθήσω να τα διορθώσω ό&la... | |
| 10 | 2022-07-01 00:34 | nikospag | ΟΚ | |
| 11 | 2022-07-01 00:47 | ika-chan! ♦242 | I feel that some changesets may need to be reverted to recover the lost relations and station layouts. Afterwards, you can redo any changes while respecting the public transport v2 relation. I am currently tired and I don't know how to do it without making a mess with the merge conflicts and su... | |
| 12 | 2022-07-01 00:53 | Thanosmed ♦3 | Thank you for your comments and I am really sorry for the mess I may have caused. I think I found out what I should restore. In fact, I just saw this link: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Railway_stations, which you had mentioned in the public conversation about me. I am going to restore everyth... | |
| 13 | 2022-07-01 01:05 | nikospag | @ThanosmedΑυτό που βρήκες δεν περιλαμβάνει τα relations.Δείχνεις να μην γ&n... | |
| 122936249 by Thanosmed @ 2022-06-28 04:59 | 1 | 2022-07-01 00:58 | nikospag | Changeset reverted because is against community consensus. Relations shouldn't be deleted. |
| 120942371 by TIPD @ 2022-05-13 15:27 | 1 | 2022-05-17 20:57 | ika-chan! ♦242 | There is no A4 motorway in Greece at the moment. What is the source for these edits? |
| 2 | 2022-05-18 14:28 | ika-repair! ♦2 | Hello, having got a second opinion by nikospag at https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=75599, sadly I had to revert changesets 121113946, 121018248, 120970818, 120942371, 120941864, 120936058, 120934012, 120933718, 120903247, 120895348, 120895091, 120894913, 120894823, 120890561, 1208901... | |
| 3 | 2022-06-23 18:17 | nikospag | From now on all your edits will be reverted automatically, until DWG intervenes. (or you contact Greek community). | |
| 4 | 2022-06-23 18:20 | nikospag | i mean user TIPD of course. | |
| 120852413 by TIPD @ 2022-05-11 18:00 | 1 | 2022-05-23 17:43 | TIPD ♦3 | Renamed the part in EO6 (Larisa - Trikala) to A4 because it has been decided to build a motorway there. In 2015 parts in EO6 were upgraded to a motorway so this would be used for the new motorway 4. |
| 2 | 2022-06-23 18:16 | nikospag | From now on all your edits will be reverted automatically, until DWG intervenes. (or you contact Greek community). | |
| 122507918 by TIPD @ 2022-06-17 12:55 | 1 | 2022-06-23 09:24 | nikospag | Changeset reverted because is against general consensus |
| 2 | 2022-06-23 18:10 | nikospag | From now on all your edits will be reverted automatically, until DWG intervenes. (or you contact Greek community). | |
| 122407418 by TIPD @ 2022-06-15 09:11 | 1 | 2022-06-23 09:33 | nikospag | Changeset reverted because is against general consensus |
| 122409754 by TIPD @ 2022-06-15 10:03 | 1 | 2022-06-23 09:32 | nikospag | Changeset reverted because is against general consensus |
| 122417491 by TIPD @ 2022-06-15 12:48 | 1 | 2022-06-23 09:31 | nikospag | Changeset reverted because is against general consensus |
| 122470483 by TIPD @ 2022-06-16 15:48 | 1 | 2022-06-22 22:55 | jimkats ♦71 | Just because they are used frequently, they can't be upgraded. There are some guidelines decided by the Greek mapping community, based on the official road classifications (by the government). That's what should be followed while mapping the roads. There are also other tags which can impro... |
| 2 | 2022-06-23 09:30 | nikospag | Changeset reverted because is against general consensus | |
| 113208585 by ika-chan! @ 2021-10-31 20:50 | 1 | 2021-11-02 03:51 | nikospag | A24 IS a motorway according to the law. Thats what the "A" means in the A24 name. |
| 2 | 2021-11-02 04:15 | ika-chan! ♦242 | If you are referring to ΦΕΚ 253ΑΑΠ/2015, then that has to be taken with a grain of salt because Mapillary imagery suggests the A24 south of Papageorgiou to be an expressway rather than a motorway: https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=826090858115075 and https://www.ma... | |
| 3 | 2021-11-02 04:34 | nikospag | Yes, i am referring to ΦΕΚ 253ΑΑΠ/2015. We have decided to follow the law and no the signs. | |
| 4 | 2021-11-02 05:00 | nikospag | Its feels wrong for me that i tried to come back. I have seen a lot of "fouls". One guy messes with the national boundariesm another guy/gal messes with the motorways, and so on...Sorry bad i had enough.Buy again!!!! | |
| 5 | 2021-11-02 13:28 | ika-chan! ♦242 | With all due respect, we have to balance legislation with what is really on the ground (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Map_what.27s_on_the_ground). For example, if the law specifies that the A642 is the A621, but the signs on the ground still say A642, then it has to be assumed th... | |
| 112801615 by hanzlan @ 2021-10-21 16:54 | 1 | 2021-10-21 17:48 | woodpeck ♦2,425 | Hello, have you discussed this rather wide-ranging boundary change with anyone (especially in Greece and/or Turkey) before you executed it? If I interpret your source correctly you have more or less guessed all these boundaries from coastlines? -- Also, could you ensure that both the eastern and wes... |
| 2 | 2021-10-21 18:11 | hanzlan ♦27 | Hello, I haven't discussed it as I found coherent sources from both sides mentioning the 6 nautical miles boundaries in the Aegean sea at the moment (in contrary to other seas like the Ionian or Black Sea where both countries officially use the 12 nautical miles boundaries) as the de facto stat... | |
| 3 | 2021-11-01 09:22 | ika-chan! ♦242 | I concur with hanzlan. I haven't got around to mapping the current 6NM borders due to politically-influenced severe depression, which means I have to try and avoid political stuff. | |
| 4 | 2021-11-01 21:45 | nikospag | @hanzlanI cant understand why did you mess with the boundaries. They are there for several years now and no one has disputed them.At first glance it seams that you didn't messed up and they look ok, but now we have to check thoroughly if the coordinates are correct.Please don't do th... | |
| 85313432 by Rick Sanchez C-137 @ 2020-05-16 18:28 | 1 | 2020-05-19 01:33 | nikospag | Are you totally idiot? Who gave you the right to remove int_name keys from the map? Please DWG do something about it, he keeps making a mess here. |
| 2 | 2020-05-19 02:03 | nikospag | int_name removal proof here https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/784579484/history | |
| 81930308 by Rick Sanchez C-137 @ 2020-03-08 18:27 | 1 | 2020-03-11 17:29 | nikospag | I warned you to stop messing with the Greek road network and changing road classifications and names. I have received many complaints from our community members about your edits. Stop doing that or i will have to report you. |
| 2 | 2020-03-11 19:24 | nikospag | And please leave comments at your edits. | |
| 3 | 2020-05-08 14:37 | SomeoneElse ♦13,368 | Re "lack of changeset comments", see https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3683 . | |
| 4 | 2020-05-15 18:43 | nikospag | Thank you. | |
| 82192979 by nikospag @ 2020-03-14 13:04 | 1 | 2020-03-15 12:04 | woodpeck ♦2,425 | Please stop name-calling other users. |
| 2 | 2020-03-15 13:46 | Rick Sanchez C-137 ♦10 | i may need to report nikospag instead, the whole attitude is horrible, there are a lot of ambiguous and vague classifications and the 3 members of the greek "community" dont seem to agree on a single scheme.This is openstreetmap not nikospag-land | |
| 3 | 2020-03-15 13:52 | nikospag | Communitity guidelines where formed by voting in a period of 8 years. Just because you see now only 3 members, this does not mean that the 3 of us we made the rules. In forum we talk and disagree for many things, but community rules are in the wiki for many years. | |
| 4 | 2020-03-15 14:04 | nikospag | Also there are members that read the forum but they dont post, and we communicate with pm.Anyway, read the our wiki pages here https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Greece , and ask if you have questions. | |
| 5 | 2020-03-15 14:04 | nikospag | I will stop the reverts now | |
| 6 | 2020-03-16 11:08 | Rick Sanchez C-137 ♦10 | believe me i have read everything before, i was just trying to find some sense in it, i mean why A1 turns north into a crappy 2-lane road instead of keep going straight into Thessaloniki??have you heard of the chewbacca defence?? | |
| 7 | 2020-03-16 12:08 | nikospag | You have to ask Greek Government as to why A1 turns north.And don't try to find any sense at Greek road network. | |
| 8 | 2020-03-18 22:27 | Rick Sanchez C-137 ♦10 | can you please stop twisting EVERYTHING i say and posting in your forum, i never said A1/A2/A24 are wrong!!I am just saying it doesnt make sense, they had the chance to make everything right in the 2015 document but they actually made it worse | |
| 9 | 2020-03-18 22:29 | Rick Sanchez C-137 ♦10 | with this attitude is no wonder there are only a couple active mappers | |
| 10 | 2020-03-18 22:53 | nikospag | I used the word "λογικό" (sense) and not the word "λάθος" (wrong). You have some serious issues with the Greek language.Please stop doing that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
| 11 | 2020-03-18 23:50 | nikospag | And you are also saying that all these people from Greek Government that made this 2015 document were idiots!! and you are the smart one!!!!!!!!!!!!This conversation end here. | |
| 12 | 2020-03-19 17:42 | Rick Sanchez C-137 ♦10 | omg you are the worst, twisting everything to suit you, you accused me for talking crazy (παλαβομάρες), you are the one with language issues, this is not how human beings communicate | |
| 82215117 by nikospag @ 2020-03-15 11:42 | 1 | 2020-03-15 13:39 | Rick Sanchez C-137 ♦10 | so you revert everything even though is correct???i may need to report you insteadisnt Φλώρινας - Θεσσαλονίκης the correct name for the new road???and the old section could be named old natio... |
| 2 | 2020-03-15 14:48 | nikospag | The trunk road replaced the old EO2. So the ref and name (Θεσσαλονίκης - Έδεσσας) of the old EO2 must go to the new road.The old sections of EO2 must have old_ref=ΕΟ2 and be ... | |
| 3 | 2020-03-15 14:50 | nikospag | eg Σκύδρα - Μελλίσι | |
| 4 | 2020-03-15 14:51 | nikospag | Σκύδρα - Μελίσσι | |
| 5 | 2020-03-15 14:54 | nikospag | That is the rule, but as you can see someone of our members didn't follow it. | |
| 6 | 2020-03-15 15:01 | nikospag | Of course same rule also applies to the section Φλώρινα - Έδεσσα. | |
| 7 | 2020-03-15 15:03 | nikospag | Happy mapping!!! | |
| 8 | 2020-03-15 20:16 | woodpeck ♦2,425 | nikospag, you write "The old sections of EO2 must have old_ref=ΕΟ2 and be renamed according to local destinations." - is this a rule that comes from the Greek government or a custom among the Greek community? How does one determine *which* local destinations to use in namin... | |
| 9 | 2020-03-15 20:59 | nikospag | I hope you are not talking seriously now. Thats a common cartography practice the we all learn in universities!!!Is community consensus on trial?I cant believe whats happening here!!!!!!! | |
| 10 | 2020-03-15 21:26 | nikospag | Woodpeck you have commented at three of my changesets. Is there a problem? or am i on trial too? | |
| 11 | 2020-03-15 21:46 | nikospag | And i want to remind you that i already had reported Rick Sanchez C-137 two-three days ago and no one even answered.Reverting actions was the only way to get his attention to read our wiki and if he has questions to consult the community.I have nothing more to say.Its very sad that you behave ... | |
| 12 | 2020-03-15 22:25 | nikospag | One last thing. And why you didn't read this road https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/160416411/history, history, the most important road in Greece to see that he changed the ref=A1 to the fictitious nat_ref=19!!! That is vandalism. | |
| 13 | 2020-03-15 22:26 | nikospag | he changed the name too to a fictitious one. | |
| 14 | 2020-03-16 11:05 | Rick Sanchez C-137 ♦10 | I believe the community decided on this naming scheme with destinations, it is not written in stone. About Chalastra - Polykastro i still think name and ref is wrong and there are no signs anywhere, thats why i removed ref (my intention was to move EO1 in nat_ref as compromise between reality and of... | |
| 15 | 2020-03-16 11:31 | nikospag | Apparently you have not a good knowledge of Greek language.Do you speak Greek? | |
| 16 | 2020-03-16 12:40 | nikospag | And about the ring road, anyone can read the Government Gazette 0f 2015. It is in our wiki. | |
| 17 | 2020-03-16 12:47 | nikospag | Also in that document there is a map at the last page. | |
| 18 | 2020-03-16 13:26 | Rick Sanchez C-137 ♦10 | stop trying to appear like a know-it all, i ve read the document, i m just saying it doesnt make sense and was never implemented (i mean look at A62 and A64) | |
| 19 | 2020-03-16 13:28 | Rick Sanchez C-137 ♦10 | i also have a pretty good understanding of greek, stop using it every time you dont have an answer | |
| 20 | 2020-03-16 19:59 | nikospag | Because this getting very annoying, if someone thinks that a community's consensus is wrong, he can go to that community's forum and talk about it and vote about it. Anything else, is just malicious behavior. END OF STORY. | |
| 82180891 by nikospag @ 2020-03-13 21:02 | 1 | 2020-03-15 20:11 | woodpeck ♦2,425 | In this changeset you have removed the "nat_ref=EO38" tag from way 698292408. Can you explain in how far this is "community consensus"; is the problem with nat_ref or does the community say EO38 is elsewhere or what is the issue? |
| 2 | 2020-03-15 20:49 | nikospag | Is there a problem with community consensus? We have stopped using nat_ref for more than one year now.That was a clear community decision. Of course there was one member (as always) that didn't follow this community decision.I cant understand why we are having this conversation!!! | |
| 3 | 2020-03-16 00:12 | nikospag | And EO38 is here https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5663318#map=10/38.7934/21.9234 for 40 years now.I really cant believe that we have this conversation!!! | |
| 4 | 2020-03-16 00:26 | nikospag | * i meant 60 years | |
| 5 | 2020-03-16 00:31 | nikospag | All of these informations are in our wiki. | |
| 82215317 by nikospag @ 2020-03-15 11:51 | 1 | 2020-03-15 12:03 | woodpeck ♦2,425 | nikospag, can you explain why the name "Πτολεμαίδας - Φλώρινας" is somehow "more correct" than the name "Φλώρινας - Έδεσ&... |
| 2 | 2020-03-15 12:23 | nikospag | The name of this road is not the main issue here. I have already reported this user 2 days ago. Please read my report. | |
| 3 | 2020-03-15 12:43 | nikospag | And FYI the way 655441474 is part of national road ΕΟ3 and the name of this road (by Government Gazzete) is Πτολεμαίδας - Φλώρινας.The name Φλώρινας ... | |
| 4 | 2020-03-15 12:44 | nikospag | I have already told him to consult our community. | |
| 5 | 2020-03-15 12:53 | nikospag | Also, the ref=EO2 must go to the trunk road too, because EO2 replaced by this trunk road. | |
| 6 | 2020-03-15 13:04 | nikospag | And there are no signs in Greece. But that does not mean that the roads have no names. | |
| 7 | 2020-03-15 13:06 | nikospag | Names are defined by official documents | |
| 8 | 2020-03-15 13:31 | Rick Sanchez C-137 ♦10 | so you revert everything even though is correct??these are not made up names | |
| 9 | 2020-03-15 14:15 | nikospag | I already answered that, above. | |
| 10 | 2020-03-15 20:01 | woodpeck ♦2,425 | Can I see the official document that says that the street depicted by way 655441474 is officially called "Πτολεμαίδας - Φλώρινας"? | |
| 11 | 2020-03-15 21:02 | nikospag | sure http://www.et.gr/idocs-nph/search/pdfViewerForm.html?args=5C7QrtC22wGll0stlB2BQHdtvSoClrL8-0KKDGXACJV5MXD0LzQTLf7MGgcO23N88knBzLCmTXKaO6fpVZ6Lx3UnKl3nP8NxdnJ5r9cmWyJWelDvWS_18kAEhATUkJb0x1LIdQ163nV9K--td6SIualHsHCCaehxhWkNCJEh0wx2oPDTJlijZD-JM1MRNxxR | |
| 12 | 2020-03-16 10:46 | Rick Sanchez C-137 ♦10 | i believe the official name is National Highway 3 and this is just explaining the route. The name is broken in pieces to reflect reality because lots of things have changed since 1963, especially in this area. | |
| 13 | 2020-03-16 10:56 | Rick Sanchez C-137 ♦10 | I believe the correct name is Πτολεμαίδας - Αμύνταιου and Αμύνταιου - Φλώρινας since the original route is interrupt... | |
| 82191502 by nikospag @ 2020-03-14 11:45 | 1 | 2020-03-15 13:42 | Rick Sanchez C-137 ♦10 | isnt ref supposed to state the actual road ref??please find me a single sign for ΕΟ1 for this section |
| 2 | 2020-03-15 14:22 | nikospag | We have decided to use the ref key at national road network.PS. I have a question. Do you speak Greek? | |
| 3 | 2020-03-16 13:28 | Rick Sanchez C-137 ♦10 | i have a pretty good understanding, stop using it every time you dont have an answer | |
| 81636453 by ika-chan! @ 2020-03-01 06:58 | 1 | 2020-03-02 06:54 | nikospag | Thank you for cleaning up Map-Finder mess. |
| 2 | 2020-03-02 14:26 | ika-chan! ♦242 | I think the Greek road authorities have some responsibility in not taking road numbers seriously. This is why there is so much confusion, especially with a user taking JayCBR's numbering idea seriously. | |
| 3 | 2020-03-02 23:41 | nikospag | Just to be fair, its not JayCBR's fault for expressing his idea, but it is Map-Finder's fault for putting this idea into action. | |
| 4 | 2020-03-02 23:47 | ika-chan! ♦242 | Yes, I know JayCBR meant well, since it was Rick Sanchez C-137 that sort of jumped the gun in the north. ;-) | |
| 5 | 2020-03-02 23:59 | nikospag | You are probably talking about the not existing A19. Here we are talking about the not existing A13. | |
| 6 | 2020-03-03 00:01 | nikospag | OK, message received. | |
| 80392860 by Rick Sanchez C-137 @ 2020-01-31 20:39 | 1 | 2020-02-27 04:38 | nikospag | I am wondering where did you find this route, and where did you find the ref 27 !!!!!Of course this route will be deleted too. |
| 2 | 2020-02-27 04:46 | nikospag | Also, you have changed roads classification from motorway to trunk, which is very wrong according official documents. If you cant read official documents then stop mapping in Greece. | |
| 80392918 by Rick Sanchez C-137 @ 2020-01-31 20:41 | 1 | 2020-02-27 04:10 | nikospag | I cant understand where did you find the ref 26.!!! On top of that this route relation does not exist. |
| 2 | 2020-02-27 04:11 | nikospag | This will be deleted. | |
| 59933873 by greecemapper @ 2018-06-18 07:47 | 1 | 2019-07-01 12:56 | nikospag | Greecemapper, next time please read the Greek wiki before removing highway=bus_stop tags from bus stops. Thank you. |
| 2 | 2019-07-01 13:04 | nikospag | And if you had check the history of all these bus stops you would have seen a mass edit (with comment) that added this tag to all bus stops. | |
| 3 | 2019-07-01 19:43 | greecemapper ♦13 | unfortunately the global wiki pages for greek public transport [1] are written in a mix of greek and english. Therefore they are pretty useless... Feel free to translate it. I would appreciate it. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Greece/Public_Transport | |
| 4 | 2019-07-01 23:26 | nikospag | Και αυτό σημαίνει οτι δεν καταλαβαίνεις τι λέει? Με προβ&lambda... | |
| 5 | 2019-07-01 23:57 | nikospag | or, do you read Greek? | |
| 6 | 2019-07-04 13:05 | greecemapper ♦13 | no, I'm sorry. | |
| 70499619 by nikospag @ 2019-05-22 04:33 | 1 | 2019-06-21 12:38 | woodpeck ♦2,425 | In the future when you revert edits, please explain clearly why you are reverting. The fact that the edits are made by one particular mapper and/or your suspicion that he might be identical to another particular mapper are not sufficient grounds for a revert; you should be able to give a concrete re... |
| 2 | 2019-06-22 01:53 | nikospag | Hm...i wonder why DWG bothers with a ""revert"" of just one node.Bye Frederik. | |
| 3 | 2019-06-22 04:58 | nikospag | PS. All real reverts (there are only a few) that i have done in 7 years, are very well commented with concrete reasons. | |
| 50233401 by Polyglot @ 2017-07-12 15:16 | 1 | 2019-05-17 23:00 | nikospag | I cant understand why the hell you deleted the names from bus stop positions here in Greece. Why you people don't read the wiki? |
| 68873873 by SomeoneElse u r asshole run greece to make changes @ 2019-04-04 09:27 Active block | 1 | 2019-05-17 21:25 | nikospag | Τελικά είσαι πιο ηλίθιος από όσο νόμιζα. Πήγες και έσβησες &ta... |
| 2 | 2019-05-17 22:01 | nikospag | Μιλάω για την Ηρώων Πολυτεχνείου και την Χατζηκυριάκου. | |
| 63790396 by Velocimaptor @ 2018-10-23 10:45 | 1 | 2019-05-17 13:12 | nikospag | Iroon Polytechniou is oneway. The busway is on its own separate way. I fixed the wrong lanes tags too. |
| 69326934 by nikospag @ 2019-04-18 00:44 | 1 | 2019-04-27 21:02 | ika-chan! ♦242 | Hi there, I kindly request that you be careful to ensure that the road numbers and formats are correct: you can discard the nat_ref value if it is wrong (the main motorway is numbered the A1 instead of the EO1). |
| 2 | 2019-04-27 21:19 | nikospag | You are right. That was happened because those ways had both nat_ref AND ref keys. It is supposed to be one OR the other and not both. So my mass edit just converted the existing nat_ref=E.O.1 to ref=E.O.1.Thank you for noticing this. | |
| 3 | 2019-04-27 21:23 | nikospag | Please fix them because i left the Greek community. I announced it here https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=746259#p746259 | |
| 4 | 2019-04-27 21:41 | nikospag | Map-Finder added the nat_ref key to ways that already had ref key. History example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/477816234/historyuser "deleted" is former George_Ath, (Map-Finder) | |
| 5 | 2019-04-27 22:48 | nikospag | * i mean ways that are motorways | |
| 6 | 2019-04-28 01:23 | nikospag | and as far as i know JayCBR changed ref keys to nat_ref only on primary and trunk roads, BUT NOT on motorways.(of course against community consensus) | |
| 64524844 by krana @ 2018-11-15 11:34 | 1 | 2019-04-22 06:40 | nikospag | Για τις στάσεις των λεωφορείων χρησιοποιούμε κεφαλαί&alph... |
| 2 | 2019-04-22 06:45 | nikospag | Απορώ που δεν είδες πως ήταν ονοματισμένες όλες οι άλλε&si... | |
| 3 | 2019-04-22 07:25 | krana ♦1 | Το είδα εκ των υστέρων και ξεκίνησα να διορθώνω όσες είχα α... | |
| 4 | 2019-04-22 22:46 | nikospag | Δεν χρειάζεται να ζητάς συγγνώμη. Αρκεί που το είδες από μόν&om... | |
| 69436134 by SomeoneElse u r asshole run greece to make changes @ 2019-04-21 22:18 Active block | 1 | 2019-04-22 03:04 | nikospag | Οι οδοί Αλεξάνδρου και Κολοκοτρώνη δεν είναι living streets. Απορώ &alph... |
| 64251838 by nikospag @ 2018-11-07 05:29 | 1 | 2018-11-23 06:08 | The Duke of Waltham ♦1 | I understand why you changed the bus-stop names to capital letters, but changing "Αστικό ΚΤΕΛ ΚατερΙνης" to "ΑστικΟ ΚΤΕΛ &Kap... |
| 2 | 2018-11-23 14:32 | nikospag | Done!!Thank you. | |
| 63730671 by tanzo @ 2018-10-21 15:42 | 1 | 2018-11-12 04:10 | nikospag | lanes=2;1????Πού το είδες αυτό?Διάβασε σε παρακαλώ το https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:lanes?uselang=en-US |
| 36922942 by nikospag @ 2016-01-31 18:50 | 1 | 2016-05-13 19:44 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Hi, I do not remember all parts of the A7 being lit are night. |
| 2 | 2016-05-14 15:48 | nikospag | If you know wihich parts are not lit go ahead and fix them. Thanks | |
| 38822868 by JayCBR @ 2016-04-23 22:54 | 1 | 2016-04-25 07:39 | zool ♦50 | I'm really surprised to see a phallic symbol scrawled on the map in the midst of an otherwise constructive looking changeset. Reverting on behalf of DWG. |
| 2 | 2016-04-25 07:55 | zool ♦50 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 38849997 where the changeset comment is: | |
| 3 | 2016-04-25 15:20 | nikospag | I am not supporting JayCBR here, but I just want to be fair. And I will not be polite with you.I think you have a big (and sick) imagination and I am sorry that you are member of DWG. First of all, many parts of the "supposed" phallic symbol have been designed by another user. But anywa... | |
| 4 | 2016-04-25 15:54 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Hi, I have investigated the source of the phallic symbol and I have written to both nikospag and zool in private message. | |
| 5 | 2016-04-25 15:57 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Oh, and I forgot to say that JOSM users who wish to investigate the history of the offending object independently may use the reverter plugin and then look up the history of the offending parts. | |
| 6 | 2016-04-25 16:57 | nikospag | Thank you Amaroussi, you are right. He put an unacceptable ref tag too on these roads.I am taking back what i said to zool. Sorry zool, my mistake. | |
| 7 | 2016-04-25 18:16 | zool ♦50 | nikospag phew! I am glad i have not incurred your wrath.The longer block was applied after consultation with DWG because we hope for and expect better from a serious mapper like JayCBR. I didn't take a screenshot but the edit was definitely a short, isolated area in the shape of an enormous... | |
| 8 | 2016-04-26 12:23 | nikospag | Zool, I can see your point of view, and I agree that we can’t use vandalism to fight vandalism. But, in my opinion, JayCBR’s block should be shorter (eg. 2 days) because his intention was to send a message to Γιαννης 4, as the latter one didn’t... | |
| 9 | 2016-04-26 15:40 | zool ♦50 | Cheers nikospag. You might have noticed now that I revoked JayCBR's block early this morning, at his contrite request. And I know the edit patterns of Γιαννης 4 are a serious ongoing problem and I would like to take harsher action, but 96 hours is the longest b... | |
| 10 | 2016-04-26 18:08 | nikospag | OK thank you. | |
| 37080630 by JayCBR @ 2016-02-08 14:20 | 1 | 2016-02-10 06:54 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | I disagree with making that national road secondary: Just because Karystos is merely a town doesn't mean that the Greek government considers the road to there unimportant. |
| 2 | 2016-02-11 03:22 | nikospag | I disagree too. This road can't be a secondary road. | |
| 3 | 2016-02-11 12:29 | JayCBR ♦39 | you guys..i thought you agreed on this scheme (roads connecting towns to be secondary)..instead of moving forward we go back? ps: EO44 in fact ends in Lepoura | |
| 4 | 2016-02-11 17:21 | nikospag | I've noticed a strange conflict in this system.We can not classify a road as secondary, that it has EO prefix at the same time, meaning that is characterized as National road by legal documents. Exceptions are National roads that have been replaced at a later time (after 1998).Exception examp... | |
| 5 | 2016-02-11 17:45 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | What I was trying to say is usually (in many countries), classified roads determines the status, with very limited exceptions (e.g. totally impassable or no cars in Hydra). Then, because a lot of new roads in Greece are unclassified, connecting roads are tagged according to their overall condition b... | |
| 6 | 2016-02-11 19:45 | nikospag | This conversation must be transferred to the forum. I will open a topic and i will copy-paste all comments from here | |
| 36620716 by nikospag @ 2016-01-16 18:14 | 1 | 2016-01-16 22:46 | nikospag | I meant bus route 049 minor fixes |
| 36584568 by nikospag @ 2016-01-15 04:09 | 1 | 2016-01-15 04:29 | nikospag | Wrong description by my fault.The word "Λεωφόρος" deleted from all streets (Piraeus). It remains only in tag official_name. Tags addr:street have been also corrected. |