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| 62992225 by JayCBR @ 2018-09-27 22:41 | 1 | 2025-03-03 21:36 | sheldonelectric ♦178 | Hey there, in greece we only use name and int_name as seen on street signs. We don't use german names like name:de=Pawlou Mela https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/628686522 |
| 2 | 2025-03-12 12:25 | JayCBR | This was probably there before, most of names in Crete was a mess back then. I was actually one of those advocating against name:xx and even wrote the relevant wiki page. | |
| 71579948 by JayCBR @ 2019-06-24 23:47 | 1 | 2023-12-11 07:26 | geraki ♦2 | JayCBR έχεις κάποιες πηγές για την αλλαγή αρίθμησης των κόμβων; Μέχ&r... |
| 2 | 2023-12-11 15:39 | JayCBR | δεν θυμάμαι να έκανα τέτοιο πράγμα, απλά layer και lanes έφτιαχνα δεν υπ... | |
| 3 | 2023-12-11 16:08 | geraki ♦2 | Δες #9 στο https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/141447078/history | |
| 129692655 by JayCBR @ 2022-12-04 01:12 | 1 | 2022-12-18 16:40 | jimkats ♦71 | Αναίρεσα τις αλλαγές που έκανες σε δρόμο της Τρίπολης, γ&io... |
| 2 | 2022-12-20 19:51 | JayCBR | δεν εχω καταλαβει τι ακριβως χαλασα | |
| 3 | 2022-12-20 20:09 | JayCBR | δλδ προσθέτουμε πόσα φανάρια που έλειπαν, προτεραιότητε&sigmaf... | |
| 4 | 2023-01-08 12:00 | jimkats ♦71 | Δηλαδή δεν σκέφτηκες να κοιτάξεις εάν το όνομα που πρόσθε&s... | |
| 5 | 2023-01-08 12:02 | jimkats ♦71 | Επίσης, για την Τρίπολη χάλασες ότι πρακτικά επανέφερες τον &... | |
| 6 | 2023-01-08 12:05 | jimkats ♦71 | Αυτό που λέω είναι έλεγξε την εγκυρότητα των οποίων αλλα&gamma... | |
| 7 | 2023-01-08 15:52 | JayCBR | στην πλατεία εκεί έκανα λάθος, δεν είχα βρει το βίντεο από drone ... | |
| 129838959 by JayCBR @ 2022-12-07 23:14 | 1 | 2022-12-18 17:02 | jimkats ♦71 | Γιατί επανέφερες την ονομασία "Διακλάδωση Στέρνας" στο δ... |
| 2 | 2022-12-20 20:01 | JayCBR | για τον ίδιο λόγο που ονομάζουμε παράπλευρες οδούς κ&alph... | |
| 96856043 by JayCBR @ 2021-01-03 17:00 | 1 | 2022-02-06 20:05 | jimkats ♦71 | Τώρα το πρόσεξα, γιατί αφαίρεσες το int_name; |
| 96751779 by JayCBR @ 2020-12-31 21:31 | 1 | 2021-04-29 19:11 | jimkats ♦71 | Υπάρχει ταμπέλα με το όνομα "ΛΕΩΦΟΡΟΣ ΑΡΧΑΙΑΣ ΑΣΙΝΗΣ". Δ&ep... |
| 79266553 by JayCBR @ 2020-01-06 21:43 | 1 | 2020-01-06 22:59 | SomeoneElse_Revert ♦70,576 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 79268097 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some road class changes in the SW of England, following numerous complaints and a couple of revert requests. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3376 etc. |
| 2 | 2020-01-07 00:19 | southglos ♦120 | I know this has already been reverted, but I can confirm there are "share space" signs on these roads:https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=51.71812422578387&lng=-1.9686819892394851&z=17&pKey=3yDfZPhOaMDe1IlMVC1n7A&focus=photoI'm conflicted on this one. It's... | |
| 3 | 2020-01-07 00:58 | SomeoneElse ♦13,368 | > One to debate elsewhere, perhaps?Agreed. Personally, I'd suggest that "shared space" is a different concept to a living street (I'm familiar with both from the Netherlands). I'd suggest asking on the talk-gb list about it - and maybe asking in the Netherlands forum ... | |
| 79245446 by JayCBR @ 2020-01-06 11:11 | 1 | 2020-01-06 22:59 | SomeoneElse_Revert ♦70,576 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 79268097 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some road class changes in the SW of England, following numerous complaints and a couple of revert requests. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3376 etc. |
| 79217259 by JayCBR @ 2020-01-05 16:45 | 1 | 2020-01-06 22:59 | SomeoneElse_Revert ♦70,576 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 79268097 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some road class changes in the SW of England, following numerous complaints and a couple of revert requests. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3376 etc. |
| 79211202 by JayCBR @ 2020-01-05 12:18 | 1 | 2020-01-05 23:23 | DaveF ♦1,563 | HiWhat was incorrect with the way these roads were tagged previously? |
| 2 | 2020-01-06 10:29 | SK53 ♦864 | @JayCBR: there is no rule that populated places must be connected by tertiary roads. In rural parts of Britain it is quite common for small villages and hamlets to only be accessible on very narrow lanes which are most appropriately tagged as unclassified. Do you have local knowledge which indicates... | |
| 3 | 2020-01-06 10:48 | JayCBR | https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Roads_in_the_United_KingdomBusy unclassified through roads(Generally used only on roads wide enough to allow two cars to pass safely where adequate road markings are in place; may have unsigned categories such as C, D or U: see Tagging Road Numbers, below) \... | |
| 4 | 2020-01-06 11:07 | JayCBR | i ll try and fix any inconsistencies, some of them roads lose their lines on the way..but anyway is wrong to have major roads within populated places tagged as unclassified | |
| 5 | 2020-01-06 13:46 | SK53 ♦864 | I think you need to discuss this on talk-gb before making such wholesale changes. I very much doubt that the wiki necessarily reflects UK mappers consensus. Certainly enforcing a rule on priority as you suggest would cause many, many minor roads in Britain to be tertiary. Furthermore there is no gua... | |
| 6 | 2020-01-06 14:46 | JayCBR | thats UKs wiki, i m not going against anybody, if there is a road connecting populated places that is paved, fits 2 cars and has proper markings, lines etc needs to be tertiary at leastthe only thing we could discuss is maybe some refining of the road classification (residential, unclassified, s... | |
| 7 | 2020-01-06 15:54 | Richard ♦220 | Where are the centreline, road edge markings, two-car width, and significant populated places on https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/653677282 ?I've cycled along that road. Have you visited it? | |
| 8 | 2020-01-06 16:19 | JayCBR | yeah, i may exagerated a bit with some of them, i m going through them again today | |
| 9 | 2020-01-06 17:17 | SK53 ♦864 | Please leave this and explain what you are doing & why on talk-gb. Before proceeding further ensure that what you are doing has the consensus of UK mappers. | |
| 10 | 2020-01-06 20:43 | southglos ♦120 | You've upgraded many narrow, single-track lanes to tertiary. Some random examples:https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=51.67866536886587&lng=-2.235325500371154&z=15&pKey=51mnsXPvfngBrwkaMUgm9A&focus=photohttps://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=51.58164995261615&lng=-2.4226... | |
| 11 | 2020-01-06 21:08 | JayCBR | i tried fixing everything after checking each single road..some of them were wide with lines and then got narrower..but i also found a lot of them with lines and everything but unclassified..i just didnt imagine trunk and primary roads connected with single lane..i think now everything is in order | |
| 12 | 2020-01-06 22:59 | SomeoneElse_Revert ♦70,576 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 79268097 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some road class changes in the SW of England, following numerous complaints and a couple of revert requests. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3376 etc. | |
| 79260645 by JayCBR @ 2020-01-06 18:31 | 1 | 2020-01-06 22:59 | SomeoneElse_Revert ♦70,576 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 79268097 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some road class changes in the SW of England, following numerous complaints and a couple of revert requests. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3376 etc. |
| 79256074 by JayCBR @ 2020-01-06 16:15 | 1 | 2020-01-06 22:59 | SomeoneElse_Revert ♦70,576 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 79268097 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some road class changes in the SW of England, following numerous complaints and a couple of revert requests. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3376 etc. |
| 79213373 by JayCBR @ 2020-01-05 13:59 | 1 | 2020-01-05 23:21 | DaveF ♦1,563 | HiPlease add a descriptive comment to changesets so your intent is clear.Many of these edits appear counter what's on the ground.Why have to tagged this as residential when no one lives along ithttps://www.openstreetmap.org/way/84302236Why have you amended this road to 'living st... |
| 2 | 2020-01-06 10:44 | JayCBR | i was running low on memory and needed to save fast..that road is within a residential area and leads to the surgery and a gym, not industrial etc..about living street there is an actual shared space sign in place..i am sure about the surface, i m in Cirencester right now (paving stones is probably ... | |
| 3 | 2020-01-06 19:12 | DaveF ♦1,563 | HiYou must be frequently "low on memory".https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/JayCBR/historySurgeries & Gyms are not residential.https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=51.71767927245395&lng=-1.9684583600628685&z=17&pKey=I9dFsGFlpcM8m9j3OHxTyA&focus=photo&x=0.606... | |
| 4 | 2020-01-06 20:51 | southglos ♦120 | Ok, photo is two years old, but if it helps:https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=51.71723285229103&lng=-1.968577466906936&z=17&pKey=5hmfXUSC3hLZLesqwMbiiQ&focus=photoLooks like surface=paving_stones to me, not a home zone, so not living_street | |
| 5 | 2020-01-06 21:03 | JayCBR | yeah got blocked | |
| 6 | 2020-01-06 21:04 | JayCBR | didnt even let me explain..there are signs everywhere "shared space" = living street..cobblestone was in the wider sense, yes paving stones is probably more accurate | |
| 7 | 2020-01-06 21:13 | DaveF ♦1,563 | It fits well with your previous 3 blocks for the same reasons. | |
| 8 | 2020-01-06 21:37 | JayCBR | well this is just petty..got a block today within hours while i was still mapping, the other one was because you dont listen, milton keins grid only works my way and you know it...the other 2 blocks were because of a dispute within the greek community | |
| 9 | 2020-01-06 21:41 | JayCBR | nice going there, sorry i disturbed your little dictatorship | |
| 10 | 2020-01-06 22:59 | SomeoneElse_Revert ♦70,576 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 79268097 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some road class changes in the SW of England, following numerous complaints and a couple of revert requests. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3376 etc. | |
| 71192674 by JayCBR @ 2019-06-12 19:29 | 1 | 2019-06-14 09:56 | woodpeck ♦2,427 | Hello, please try to add meaningful changeset comments (see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments) especially when making large-scale edits like this. In this case, you should have explained why you are changing the road class of these roads and what your source or reasoning is... |
| 2 | 2019-06-14 12:24 | JayCBR | we have talked about this in the past but didnt actually do it, about upgrading major urban arteries so we have a better network and to free up the secondary and tertiary tags | |
| 70620718 by JayCBR @ 2019-05-25 22:35 | 1 | 2019-05-29 14:55 | korolenok ♦83 | Hi! Dragged nodes in this changeset. Fix please if it possibleLink to problem area --> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=18/40.54329/23.00714 --- Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.mapbox.com/changesets/70620718 |
| 64423714 by JayCBR @ 2018-11-12 22:58 | 1 | 2018-12-02 10:53 | SomeoneElse ♦13,368 | Hello,I don't quite understand how "restoring road names refs etc back to their original form (agreed by the community)" could involve the deleting of a fence such as https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/396985980/history ?Best Regards,Andy |
| 64362210 by JayCBR @ 2018-11-10 21:18 | 1 | 2018-11-14 21:05 | SomeoneElse ♦13,368 | Hello,You've changed the East Lancashire Road from a primary to a trunk at https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/627747425/history - are you sure that's correct? It's a while since I've been there but I didn't think it was a trunk (green signs) rather than primary (white sign... |
| 2 | 2018-11-14 21:56 | JayCBR | every sign i ve seen is green, sabre has it as primary..and common sense, its a major road, i see no reason that section not to be primarybest regardsJ | |
| 3 | 2018-11-14 23:19 | lakedistrict ♦308 | These Mapillary images were taken in July this year and both show green signs: https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/VLPqbORH-pV3z7yyD1MBhQ and https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/-TqGlo7Kzu3Pq96d-QNGAg | |
| 4 | 2018-11-14 23:30 | SomeoneElse ♦13,368 | Actually - my mistake - that's a different bit of the East Lancs Road to what I was thinking of (you haven't modified the bit I was thinking of at all) | |
| 5 | 2018-11-18 23:21 | Mike Baggaley ♦630 | HI, in this change, New Bridge Street and part of Greengate have been changed from secondary to tertiary, but they also have ref B6182. If this is no longer the B6182, please remove the ref. If it is still the B6182, please revert the highway to secondary as per the UK tagging guidelines at https://... | |
| 64228642 by JayCBR @ 2018-11-06 12:30 | 1 | 2018-11-17 16:01 | robert ♦234 | Please do not move road ref=s to within the road name. Allow the renderer to make a decision about this. Someone's going to have to come and undo all of this now. |
| 2 | 2018-11-17 19:39 | JayCBR | V5 etc its a part of the name, you cant see one without the otherthe correct tag is loc_ref because its not a national road ref..the only problem is nobody can see it | |
| 3 | 2018-11-17 19:58 | robert ♦234 | Whether to show it or not is the render's decision. I've seen plenty of people refer to MK roads as just their name, "Grafton Street" etc. | |
| 64167972 by JayCBR @ 2018-11-04 14:42 | 1 | 2018-11-15 08:58 | SomeoneElse ♦13,368 | Hi JayCBR,I'm pretty sure that https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4239581/history isn't a secondary ("B") road. I've never seen it signed as such.What evidence do you have that it is (other than "you'd like it to be")?Best Regards,Andy |
| 64361310 by JayCBR @ 2018-11-10 20:25 | 1 | 2018-11-14 17:29 | Paul Berry ♦124 | Hi again,You seem to be turning C-roads into B-roads around Leeds.Could I please ask why?Regards._Paul_ |
| 2 | 2018-11-14 17:44 | Paul Berry ♦124 | If it's helpful, here are the road tagging guidelines for the UK:https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines#UK_roads | |
| 3 | 2018-11-14 17:58 | JayCBR | i know there is an official classification as any country, but we dont need to be so strict, especially in cities..some roads are more significant than others, dont we need to show this??of course i m not talking about trunk and primary, just some tertiary roads connecting major roads and motorways | |
| 4 | 2018-11-14 18:00 | JayCBR | leeds road network cant just rely in tertiary roads, the loop needs to be secondary, the same with major connections | |
| 5 | 2018-11-14 19:43 | Paul Berry ♦124 | Like a lot of cities Leeds quite deliberately doesn't have many classified roads within the centre because they want traffic to move around it not through it.The Loop is an important road but it's not classified so it's "just" a tertiary road. You can infer its importanc... | |
| 6 | 2018-11-14 20:16 | JayCBR | i know better than tagging for the renderer, i m actually doing the opposite, mapping whats on the ground..i ve been driving all around Leeds for the past 6 months, i can tell where is all the traffic..the whole idea of the loop is to keep cars out of the central commercial area, this makes it the m... | |
| 7 | 2018-11-15 08:53 | SomeoneElse ♦13,368 | @JayCBR I agree with Paul above when he says "the map has to reflect what actually there, not what you'd like to be there". The road classification scheme in the UK isn't random - it's deliberately designed to be easy to apply. If you think that it should be changed, the p... | |
| 58247724 by JayCBR @ 2018-04-19 22:36 | 1 | 2018-04-22 21:38 | Paul Berry ♦124 | Please map what's on the ground. Westgate/West Street running either side of the A58(M) aren't under motorway regs but do have primary route signage. That's why they were mapped as primary.I can go and snap photos if you want evidence (I work about 2 mins' walk from Westgate)... |
| 2 | 2018-04-23 07:40 | JayCBR | im afraid i dont get the exact problem..do you mean the slip roads (motorway links) getting to and off A58(M)?? or the side road West Street starting near Ibis hotel? | |
| 3 | 2018-04-23 08:11 | Paul Berry ♦124 | Ways 216965787 & 6136466 (Westgate) are not motorway links but tertiary. You'll notice from the map they don't ever join the motorway (intentionally) and, from the ground, are not under motorway regs either.However, you do have West Street right (ways 6136477 & 6136478 & 34... | |
| 4 | 2018-05-24 19:01 | kreuzschnabel ♦801 | After thinking a bit about the "primary" gap between Rigton Hill and Collingham within an otherwise "trunk" A58, I came across https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37759 which doubts the A58 is a primary route at all – it might have been downgraded due to th... | |
| 5 | 2018-05-24 19:08 | kreuzschnabel ♦801 | https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=A58 agrees – white sign on the Leeds–Wetherby section :) so highway=primary would be appropriate. | |
| 6 | 2018-05-29 12:47 | kreuzschnabel ♦801 | A58 re-tagged to hw=trunk between Leeds and Wetherby. Both of them are primary destinations, and the A58 between them is shown green on any map available as yet. | |
| 58311382 by JayCBR @ 2018-04-22 14:22 | 1 | 2018-04-22 21:41 | Paul Berry ♦124 | The Headrow axis is not a B-road. It's not even open to all traffic. |
| 2 | 2018-04-23 07:30 | JayCBR | its more than a b-road, its the major road in Leeds..couldnt be even secondary? | |
| 3 | 2018-04-23 08:01 | Paul Berry ♦124 | It's a C-road (not sure of unpublished number) but note that it's restricted to buses/taxis/cycles/access for most of its length. Even the Loop Road is only C-class: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4148004 | |
| 4 | 2018-04-23 14:39 | Mike Baggaley ♦630 | HI, Ways 400349313 and 454077550 have ref=A64, so either the ref is wrong or they should not be secondary. I am not local, but have been along that road and believe it has green signs, indicating it should be trunk. Can you please review these two ways?Thanks,Mike | |
| 5 | 2018-04-23 14:55 | Paul Berry ♦124 | There's possibly some confusion with recent changes regarding how OSM represents A-roads. Apologies in advance if this is already known...OSM | RealityTrunk | Primary A-Road (yellow on green signage)*Primary | Secondary/Non-Primary A-Road (black on white signage)Secondary | B-RoadUn... | |
| 6 | 2018-04-23 16:37 | JayCBR | i am sorry i didnt realize there was such a restriction..if thats the case maybe the restricted section should be a service road and maybe the loop could be secondary..about the underground section of A64 i need to have some research | |
| 7 | 2018-04-23 20:50 | JayCBR | i dont think ways 400349313 and 454077550 are parts of A64, the signs only point out where it leads (York A64), its like a side road | |
| 8 | 2018-04-24 11:03 | Paul Berry ♦124 | Those ways are signed York A64--no brackets--according to local signage on the ground. | |
| 51903625 by JayCBR @ 2017-09-10 10:17 | 1 | 2017-09-11 16:13 | tyr_asd ♦440 | Hello. Thanks for your contributions. But could you please try to provide your fellow mappers with a short description in your changeset comment field. It only takes a few seconds to fill out, but would provide other mappers much needed information to better understand your edits and intentions. You... |
| 46786183 by JayCBR @ 2017-03-12 14:27 | 1 | 2017-09-08 08:47 | GerdP ♦2,751 | Hi!please review typo oneway=Lefkada - Vassiliki on https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/141630015 |
| 48458978 by JayCBR @ 2017-05-06 18:38 | 1 | 2017-05-12 11:11 | ika-chan! ♦242 | Hi, I have replied to your idea about making greater use of trunk roads for Nation Roads by using E-Roads as the main criteria. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Ika-chan!#May_2017_changes - and please, use comments for edits as major as this. |
| 2 | 2017-05-22 14:41 | ika-chan! ♦242 | I should add that at a grade separated junction at https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/39.58429/22.07242, should the slip roads leading directly from the trunk road be trunk_link? | |
| 48487471 by JayCBR @ 2017-05-07 23:54 | 1 | 2017-05-14 04:35 | ika-chan! ♦242 | I don't know what is the idea behind this changeset since you haven't left a changeset comment. Where you upgraded a secondary road, I think that the new road may be yet another "high-quality" provincial road like Karditsa to Larissa. |
| 2 | 2017-05-14 19:43 | JayCBR | i dont think this road is an upgrade to ΕΠ1, it should be separate as an unofficial national highway (it is designed to link A2 to Edessa).ΕΠ1 can be secondary, following its original route | |
| 3 | 2017-05-14 19:44 | JayCBR | i also think Karditsa - Larissa should be trunk because it would serve as a link between Larisa and A3 | |
| 4 | 2017-05-15 11:05 | ika-chan! ♦242 | I disagree with Karditsa - Larissa being trunk because the Thessaly government refers to this as a (albeit high quality) provincial road and I did my research on that (see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Greece/National_Road_Network#Not_National_Roads). There is no evidence that it h... | |
| 39508436 by JayCBR @ 2016-05-23 12:27 | 1 | 2016-07-11 06:52 | Jothirnadh ♦75 | Hello JayCBR,Came across this changesets and found that you deleted the names of this street https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/278489664/historyYour changeset also didn't have any proper comment, so not able to quantify the reason of deleting these tags. Can you please specify the reaso... |
| 2 | 2016-07-11 08:53 | JayCBR | well there is a restructuring of provincial roads in progress and this area is not complete yet (ΕΟ3β is a branch of the main way and havent decided on a name at the time)..i do most of my edits with P2 and when i save is because ram is running out, so no time for comments | |
| 3 | 2017-04-17 11:14 | SomeoneElse ♦13,368 | Hi JayCBR,If you have to save in an emergency and aren't able to leave a suitable comment, you could always return to the changeset later and add a comment in the changeset discussion. That way other mappers will still be able to see what the changeset was about.Hope you don't mind me... | |
| 36955394 by JayCBR @ 2016-02-02 11:40 | 1 | 2017-02-03 14:42 | ika-chan! ♦242 | Hi, The A1 south of Liosion/Dimokratias Avenue near Agioi Anargyroi has a name: Kifisou Avenue. Please be more careful with the names. |
| 44815990 by JayCBR @ 2017-01-01 01:34 | 1 | 2017-01-10 09:54 | ika-chan! ♦242 | Why are you deleting turn restrictions without a good reason? |
| 2 | 2017-01-10 12:17 | ika-chan! ♦242 | Sorry, I am having a really bad morning today, but I should be a bit more gentle instead of direct - however, turn restrictions are there to acknowledge the signs and the general traffic flow that exist as a result of the signs. And please, try putting changeset comments in every changeset, like I t... | |
| 3 | 2017-01-12 11:28 | JayCBR | i was correcting vandalism by Γιάννης4, so his turn restrictions dont apply..pls have your eyes open for any suspicious edits by him | |
| 42516435 by JayCBR @ 2016-09-29 11:29 | 1 | 2016-10-03 21:55 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | This is quite a big changeset, but where are the changeset comments? Otherwise, we don't know the reason for it. |
| 2 | 2016-10-04 11:37 | JayCBR | you know who i am and that everything i do i backed by official sources and common sense, do i need to explain every single thing? | |
| 3 | 2016-10-04 13:19 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Simple notes like "Road classifications updated according to OKXE" or "Landuse and local roads added" will do perfectly fine. Many experienced mappers like me and woodpeck (https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/woodpeck/history) do that. | |
| 40183091 by JayCBR @ 2016-06-21 15:10 | 1 | 2016-07-04 13:47 | Javier Gutiérrez ♦9 | Hello there,great job on mapping on Macedonia.I have seen some issues reported by OSM Inspector on the farmlands you created. It seems they are not complete. http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=areas&lon=24.63313&lat=40.94703&zoom=17&opacity=0.26Could you please fix th... |
| 2 | 2016-07-06 08:19 | JayCBR | hello there, these "farms" were messing with roads and residential areas..i think farms include animals, this is just cultivated land..anyway i dont think we need to map them | |
| 39740565 by JayCBR @ 2016-06-02 15:17 | 1 | 2016-06-07 07:00 | manoharuss ♦252 | Hey JayCBR, appreciate your edits on OSM. But this highway https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27315455 you changed from secondary to teritiary and teritiary to secondary again from version 21 of the OSM way. You changed ref to old_ref and old_ref to reg_ref as well. Along with that, in your final e... |
| 2 | 2016-06-09 09:07 | JayCBR | there is a reconstruction of provincial network in progress, you should visit the greek wiki and forum..we the community decided for all provincial roads to be secondary (unless unpaved) | |
| 39479062 by JayCBR @ 2016-05-22 00:25 | 1 | 2016-05-23 06:35 | PlaneMad ♦450 | Hi Jay, noticed you removed the tags for this road https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/275784052 . Was it accidental or were the tags incorrect? |
| 2 | 2016-05-23 11:30 | JayCBR | we try to reconstruct the whole road network, including creation of missing relations, correcting names and refs..after extensive talks in the forum we decided to tag provincial roads with reg_ref=ΕΠ# and include the names of the destinations, after consulting the map provided by okxe..yo... | |
| 3 | 2016-05-23 11:59 | PlaneMad ♦450 | Thank you! | |
| 4 | 2016-05-23 12:01 | PlaneMad ♦450 | Maybe you can use JOSM, which is easier to use for such large changes :) | |
| 38822868 by JayCBR @ 2016-04-23 22:54 | 1 | 2016-04-25 07:39 | zool ♦50 | I'm really surprised to see a phallic symbol scrawled on the map in the midst of an otherwise constructive looking changeset. Reverting on behalf of DWG. |
| 2 | 2016-04-25 07:55 | zool ♦50 | This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 38849997 where the changeset comment is: | |
| 3 | 2016-04-25 15:20 | nikospag ♦64 | I am not supporting JayCBR here, but I just want to be fair. And I will not be polite with you.I think you have a big (and sick) imagination and I am sorry that you are member of DWG. First of all, many parts of the "supposed" phallic symbol have been designed by another user. But anywa... | |
| 4 | 2016-04-25 15:54 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Hi, I have investigated the source of the phallic symbol and I have written to both nikospag and zool in private message. | |
| 5 | 2016-04-25 15:57 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Oh, and I forgot to say that JOSM users who wish to investigate the history of the offending object independently may use the reverter plugin and then look up the history of the offending parts. | |
| 6 | 2016-04-25 16:57 | nikospag ♦64 | Thank you Amaroussi, you are right. He put an unacceptable ref tag too on these roads.I am taking back what i said to zool. Sorry zool, my mistake. | |
| 7 | 2016-04-25 18:16 | zool ♦50 | nikospag phew! I am glad i have not incurred your wrath.The longer block was applied after consultation with DWG because we hope for and expect better from a serious mapper like JayCBR. I didn't take a screenshot but the edit was definitely a short, isolated area in the shape of an enormous... | |
| 8 | 2016-04-26 12:23 | nikospag ♦64 | Zool, I can see your point of view, and I agree that we can’t use vandalism to fight vandalism. But, in my opinion, JayCBR’s block should be shorter (eg. 2 days) because his intention was to send a message to Γιαννης 4, as the latter one didn’t... | |
| 9 | 2016-04-26 15:40 | zool ♦50 | Cheers nikospag. You might have noticed now that I revoked JayCBR's block early this morning, at his contrite request. And I know the edit patterns of Γιαννης 4 are a serious ongoing problem and I would like to take harsher action, but 96 hours is the longest b... | |
| 10 | 2016-04-26 18:08 | nikospag ♦64 | OK thank you. | |
| 37121562 by JayCBR @ 2016-02-10 10:49 | 1 | 2016-02-13 15:33 | JayCBR | i just changed old_ref to reg_ref, also their routes were wrong |
| 37080630 by JayCBR @ 2016-02-08 14:20 | 1 | 2016-02-10 06:54 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | I disagree with making that national road secondary: Just because Karystos is merely a town doesn't mean that the Greek government considers the road to there unimportant. |
| 2 | 2016-02-11 03:22 | nikospag ♦64 | I disagree too. This road can't be a secondary road. | |
| 3 | 2016-02-11 12:29 | JayCBR | you guys..i thought you agreed on this scheme (roads connecting towns to be secondary)..instead of moving forward we go back? ps: EO44 in fact ends in Lepoura | |
| 4 | 2016-02-11 17:21 | nikospag ♦64 | I've noticed a strange conflict in this system.We can not classify a road as secondary, that it has EO prefix at the same time, meaning that is characterized as National road by legal documents. Exceptions are National roads that have been replaced at a later time (after 1998).Exception examp... | |
| 5 | 2016-02-11 17:45 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | What I was trying to say is usually (in many countries), classified roads determines the status, with very limited exceptions (e.g. totally impassable or no cars in Hydra). Then, because a lot of new roads in Greece are unclassified, connecting roads are tagged according to their overall condition b... | |
| 6 | 2016-02-11 19:45 | nikospag ♦64 | This conversation must be transferred to the forum. I will open a topic and i will copy-paste all comments from here | |
| 35774121 by JayCBR @ 2015-12-05 18:52 | 1 | 2016-02-10 08:08 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | As far as I know, Λεωφόρος Ελευθερίου Βενιζέλου is not a national road, according to any source that I have seen. |
| 36721131 by JayCBR @ 2016-01-21 14:19 | 1 | 2016-01-22 07:22 | GerdP ♦2,751 | Hi there!Please review highway=s on https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/254070869I am not a local. It looks like a highway=residential to me. Is it really a oneway=yes ? |
| 2 | 2016-01-22 12:40 | JayCBR | well this troubled me too..it was already a secondary link..i just changed the type of linki dont know for sure if its oneway..its very narrow and it looks like an exitalso there is an underpass serving the opposite direction | |
| 3 | 2016-01-23 00:12 | GerdP ♦2,751 | well, whatever you decide should be better than highway=s ;-) | |
| 4 | 2016-01-23 08:42 | JayCBR | well i typed s for secondary link to appeardidnt noticed it..i thought yours was a typo..i guess it was easier for you to send 2 messages than fix it | |
| 5 | 2016-01-23 09:46 | GerdP ♦2,751 | as I said, I am not a local and I don't know the correct attributes, I just noticed the typo. | |
| 35113939 by JayCBR @ 2015-11-05 22:29 | 1 | 2015-11-11 13:50 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Hi, "nat_ref" is not supposed to completely replace "ref", if that is the default (national) ref on the maps. |
| 2 | 2015-11-14 12:02 | JayCBR | ref can be used for road with consistent numbering, like most motorways..if a road doesnt have any signs showing its number, but does have an official number then we tag it with nat_ref | |
| 3 | 2015-11-14 12:03 | JayCBR | also there are roads like Chalastra - Evzonoi where the official number is ΕΟ1α, but EO1 is used..so nat_ref=EO1α, ref=EO1 | |
| 4 | 2015-11-17 11:24 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Hi, I should clarify that if the actual ref is different, then that is fine: however, if the "nat_ref" is the only value, then "ref" should also be that since "nat_ref" is not supposed to completely replace "ref". :-) | |
| 34021961 by JayCBR @ 2015-09-14 14:23 | 1 | 2015-09-16 19:09 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | How on earth EO56a/EO91 is a motorway? I know that only standard blue direction signs exist there. |
| 32221175 by JayCBR @ 2015-06-26 08:57 | 1 | 2015-06-28 06:33 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Hi, why did you delete names from some ways, like https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/352319225? |
| 31994401 by JayCBR @ 2015-06-15 21:55 | 1 | 2015-06-22 20:23 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Hi, there was no road along way No. 165336988. Whether it was a mistake or not, please be careful. |
| 2 | 2015-06-23 07:13 | JayCBR | i was only changing admin levels, i dont know how this happened | |
| 3 | 2015-06-26 20:53 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Pressing "R" accidentally may be a problem because that key copies all the attributes from the previously selected way. This is why I personally prefer using JOSM instead of Potlatch, 95% of the time. | |
| 32230079 by JayCBR @ 2015-06-26 18:01 | 1 | 2015-06-26 20:51 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | I should point out that there are some shorter ways due to the detail of the junctions, and you should take time to double check that you have not missed any ways. Cheers! |
| 31587496 by JayCBR @ 2015-05-30 16:11 | 1 | 2015-06-02 04:04 | fx99 ♦126 | your edits (without comments) seam to cause some problems with Greece admin boundaries, see eg. http://osm.wno-edv-service.de/index.php/10-osm-reports/207-countries-compare-2015-06-01 |
| 2 | 2015-06-02 07:10 | JayCBR | its work in progress, so there will be some missing until i finishits difficult to explain every single change, i do an extensive update to prefectures and regional units | |
| 29826663 by JayCBR @ 2015-03-29 13:48 | 1 | 2015-05-22 19:23 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Hi, 'link' ways like "highway=primary_link" is intended for slip roads rather than the main carriageway. "highway=primary" is the right tag for the main carriageway. |
| 29865157 by JayCBR @ 2015-03-30 23:43 | 1 | 2015-05-16 06:19 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Hi, primary_link and secondary_links are supposed to be for slip roads instead of the main carriageway. |
| 31117191 by JayCBR @ 2015-05-13 22:46 | 1 | 2015-05-15 23:29 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Please stop contracting Εθνική Οδός to ΕΟ: it is annoying and we are not supposed to be mapping just for the renderer. |
| 31117696 by JayCBR @ 2015-05-13 23:32 | 1 | 2015-05-15 01:58 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | I already saw your proposal but I have no idea as to how Thessaloniki is 57: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2:GR#Departments_and_self-governed_part. Attiki should use 00 instead of A1, otherwise there will be confusion with motorways. |
| 29902198 by JayCBR @ 2015-04-01 11:29 | 1 | 2015-04-01 17:52 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Hi,In this changeset, you deleted "name" tags from main roads. That was the common default name in the local (Greek) language and is one of the core building blocks of the map. |
| 2 | 2015-04-11 11:21 | zool ♦50 | Have the names been replaced or restored since? | |
| 3 | 2015-04-11 11:34 | JayCBR | we reached to an agreement with others in the wiki about this roads i dont know if amaroussi changed something | |
| 4 | 2015-04-11 14:10 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | I had to restore the names and some of the original classifications on the night of 3rd April (http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/29963819) on the EO2 only, pending further consultation from other users. This was the night before we had the IRC chat.Until we find more opinion on the classi... | |
| 30076250 by JayCBR @ 2015-04-08 22:33 | 1 | 2015-04-10 17:26 | zool ♦50 | hi JayCBR,There are a lot of changes listed in this changeset. It would be clearer for others if you could upload in smaller changesets.In the edits here, there's been a particular query about the National Road 8 classification - http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/31640151/history#map=15/... |
| 2 | 2015-04-10 17:50 | JayCBR | in the official National Highway Registry of 1998 states that EO104 follows this path..the problem is that it contradicts itself later on | |
| 3 | 2015-04-10 17:53 | JayCBR | the re-classification is according to what we agreed herehttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Greece | |
| 4 | 2015-04-11 08:33 | zool ♦50 | Right, in the history of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Greece I see a lot of your own edits recently, but I don't have a sense that this wiki page reflects community agreement yet. | |
| 5 | 2015-04-11 08:54 | JayCBR | you realize we are few (actually amaroussi and i are the only ones active editors for the past months)! i have contacted everyone i could find from osm and skyscrapercity (there is an ongoing debate there), send them the national road registry and asked for feedback about the wiki (last time someone... | |
| 6 | 2015-04-11 09:02 | JayCBR | about EO104 can be used only where an older third road existsi made road numbering specific articles based on the 1998 Registry of National Highwaysyou can download here http://dlib.statistics.gr/portal/page/portal/ESYE/showdetails?p_id=14551335&p_derive=book&p_topic=10008076 | |
| 7 | 2015-04-11 11:27 | zool ♦50 | Understood, I am assuming good faith here, only suggesting that you slow down while the issue is causing some contention between mappers... | |
| 29581515 by JayCBR @ 2015-03-18 22:35 | 1 | 2015-03-28 10:15 | zool ♦50 | dear JayCBR,In this changeset and others you have made some quite sweeping changes to the OSM database. It would be helpful to others if you'd leave a comment when you create a changeset; also consider uploading changes in smaller batches.Please consult others in the OSM community befor... |
| 2 | 2015-03-30 12:18 | JayCBR | dear zool,greek osm community is rather small to non-existenti only managed to find 2-3 other guys and they were also troubled and confused about the greek numbering and classification systemi made a post to the forum with some simple rules so we can discussnot much happened though in terms ... | |
| 3 | 2015-04-04 10:31 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Hi,I am well aware that the Greek OSM community is patchy, but I am confident that not all major urban avenues with traffic lights qualify as motor-road. At the time I was only complying with what is recommended on the wiki to respect the existing structure. Your edits took me by surprise, hence... | |
| 4 | 2015-04-05 05:51 | zool ♦50 | Thanks for your response JayCBR, the offer to revert in a few places is generous and may still be necessary. I hope that Amaroussi's effort at a consolidating wiki page proves useful to you. Good luck, both of you! | |
| 5 | 2015-04-05 21:22 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | I will do my best, but at this time I am studying and I may be very busy until mid-June. Sorry in advance for any inconvenience this may cause. | |
| 29891202 by JayCBR @ 2015-03-31 21:06 | 1 | 2015-04-01 07:37 | JayCBR | the government decision states clearly that EO4 begins at Alexandria, not Halkidona |
| 2 | 2015-04-01 08:02 | JayCBR | National Road 1 is only one (it just takes the prefix A for motorway parts) so its not a separate roadthe original route should be named ΠΕΟ1 so people can know where the old road was.So section Katerini-Alexandria-Halkidona-Gefyra-Evzonoi should be ΠΕΟ1.K... | |
| 3 | 2015-04-01 21:24 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Hi there,I've been told by ea1969 the Greek road enthusiast that EO1 has indeed not been totally replaced, hence not all sections are ΠΕΟ1 in practice. Probably not the first one to think that section was EO4, since AiNikolas ninja'd me (http://www.openstreetmap.org/... | |
| 4 | 2015-04-02 08:02 | JayCBR | well if we label the old road as EO1, what happens to the parts of A1 that are not motorways? | |
| 5 | 2015-04-03 00:11 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | It turns out that according to http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=122896886&postcount=2155, the part of A1 that are not motorways is in fact EO1a.On a side note, I would refrain from marking the slip roads as part of the main road unless it was a grade separated junction, such as a... | |
| 29890028 by JayCBR @ 2015-03-31 20:23 | 1 | 2015-04-01 07:33 | JayCBR | the green road is replacing a road which is vertical (EO3), EO2 should follow its original course..if people prefer to use the green one it doesnt mean we should rename it |
| 2 | 2015-04-01 08:49 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | If people prefer to use the green one, then that is the reality on the road and such situation should be respected. Until you joined in, the stretch of road in question was happily sharing numbers without problems. | |
| 3 | 2015-04-01 09:01 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | I forgot to add that the EO2 will only follow its original course if the green road in question later becomes the A27: there is currently no time-line for the upgrade of that part yet. | |
| 4 | 2015-04-01 16:31 | JayCBR | tell me you dont like how neat it looks | |
| 5 | 2015-04-01 17:20 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Hello,It is not about how neat it is, but how we reflect reality: I've asked ea1969, another Greek road enthusiast (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=122885298&postcount=2152), and he has confirmed to me that EO2 and EO3 currently follows the bypass although occasionally ther... | |
| 29871055 by JayCBR @ 2015-03-31 09:07 | 1 | 2015-03-31 13:29 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | The road in red is pretty much an old national road of orange, due to the bypass (in Green). That should be PEO2/PEO3 now. Please take new roads built after the 1963 list into account. |
| 2 | 2015-04-01 08:05 | JayCBR | the green road is replacing EO3 going vertical, EO2 should continue its course horizontally through Florina | |
| 29815602 by JayCBR @ 2015-03-28 22:17 | 1 | 2015-03-28 23:24 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | I have no idea about how way 335286473 could be a short motorroad. While usage should be considered, such dramatic transitions, if that term is right, ruins the quality of the map. Please be more careful about the massive changes to road classifications without giving a good reason and seeking secon... |
| 29424902 by JayCBR @ 2015-03-12 11:59 | 1 | 2015-03-14 15:31 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Hi, EO48 used to go via Amfissa, but it has since been diverted. It appears that you have used an old source (Greek law ΦΕΚ Β 319/23.7.1963) without considering recent developments as I have done. |
| 29355770 by JayCBR @ 2015-03-09 13:19 | 1 | 2015-03-10 22:07 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | I kindly enquire as to where are the official sources that show that this part of EO1 has become PEO1? (sorry for my use of Latin characters out of hurry) Kindly note that the A1 has not completely replaced EO1. |
| 29347919 by JayCBR @ 2015-03-09 09:56 | 1 | 2015-03-09 21:01 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | Hi, where are the "official sources" that prove that the EO1 went to Thessaloniki and not Evzoni? |
| 29273863 by JayCBR @ 2015-03-05 19:05 | 1 | 2015-03-08 16:28 | ika-chan! UK-USA ♦76 | It looks as if you have deleted quite a lot of nodes and changed the road's ref from the National EO2 to the European E86, whereas the ref is for national numbers. You wouldn't mind explaining the reason why?Amaroussi. |