Changeset No. Date Contributor Comment
12018-06-20 21:30:41 UTCSomeoneElse "highway=gallop" probably isn't best described as "highway=bridleway" (though both are obviously designed for horses). I've tagged the ones near me as "track" (but with some kind of description) as it's the least worst option. It's a bit like trying to decide whether ...
12018-05-16 16:03:04 UTCMateusz Konieczny What is the meaning of fire_hydrant:brand=Opet?
22018-05-16 16:04:10 UTCMateusz Konieczny Also - what was license of data used in this import?
32018-05-27 15:30:10 UTCSomeoneElse Hello 58zarali,
The data that you've imported here has a number of problems. One is that the licence appears not to be compatible with OpenStreetMap (the Yellow Pages' site suggests data from it is "© 2016 - 2018 DataWorks"). Another is that you've added wikipedia and wikidata item...
42018-05-27 15:30:43 UTCSomeoneElse Merhaba 58zarali,
Buraya aktardığınız verilerin birtakım sorunları var. Birincisi, lisansın OpenStreetMap ile uyumlu olmadığı görülüyor (Yellow Pages'ın sitesinden veriler "© 2016 - 2018 DataWorks"). Bir diğeri, yanlış olan tek tek ürün sayfalar...
52018-05-28 05:09:59 UTCkatpatuka Opet şirekti için çalıştın mı? Opet benzin istasyonlarının datası ile alaklı bir email varsa o zaman OSM viki'de belgelemek lazım. (Örnek: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Katpatuka/CDC_email_traffic )
62018-05-29 17:32:41 UTCSomeoneElse @58zarali Please do answer the questions that other mappers are asking here. If you don't we'll have to revert this (not least because of the very odd keys used).
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSMs's Data Working Group.
72018-05-29 19:06:50 UTC58zarali Hi Andy,

I am a manager in the Digital Maps and Data Operations department at Yellow Pages Turkey.
Turkey Yellow Pages has the right to use the data. As a company we provide branded digital maps service. So we installed Opet gas stations on OpenstreetMap.
I agree, "fire_hydrant:brand"...
82018-06-05 22:29:58 UTCSomeoneElse Hi 58zarali,

(apologies for repeating some of what has previously been sent by email)

It's probably worth taking a step back and reading https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import and the pages linked from there such as https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines . What I'd suggest ...
92018-06-16 09:57:13 UTCSomeoneElse One other thing to mention - the wikipedia, wikidata and website used in each item here are incorrect. For example https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4699023957 does _not_ have a wikipedia page (although the brand associated with the station does). This is something else that you can discuss with ...
12018-06-14 15:31:00 UTCSomeoneElse Has the English name changed here? When I was a kid it was always referred to in English as "Black Rock Sands", though the signage in Morfa Bychan was just a sign with "Traeth" written above "Beach".
12018-06-12 17:58:47 UTCSomeoneElse Just to add a bit more detail about the way this data was tidied up:
I've removed stuff that genuinely makes no sense (like "if_yes_whe") but have left e.g. "damage_description" since someone might be able to interpret that down the line. I've also left any new geometries, in c...
12018-06-11 10:52:12 UTCSomeoneElse Surprised that https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5328977855 was still open as a Phones4U in Jan this year - didn't the company fold in 2014?
12018-06-10 14:11:12 UTCSomeoneElse Just to summarise the changes here:
o https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/596114658 replaces https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7373542 , and it's previous outers form part of the new building way.
o https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/297356 , https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/505918020 and ...
12018-06-10 13:32:49 UTCSomeoneElse Apologies if I've got the wrong changeset here, but this I think is the one that has set platform 9 as the default stop in York.
just for info (most recently 2 weeks ago) I've caught it from platform 5a.
Cheers,
Andy
12018-06-09 23:53:29 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
You've made http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=7233208 a "leisure=park" again. Are you sure about this? Other mappers seem quite clear that it isn't.
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-06-08 08:41:24 UTCSomeoneElse If you don't reply to the questions that people have asked you (see http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=1193932 ) we're going to have to remove some or all of these changes. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/591636288 looks pretty unlikely, for example.
12018-05-31 09:52:26 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
You've changed the DE and EN names here from versions of the Ossetian names to versions of the Georgian names. Leaving aside the politics, what's the most spoken language on the ground here? Given the location I'd have expected Ossetian rather than Georgian?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-06-04 20:49:30 UTCHans Wieser What means Ossetian version of German name or Ossetian version of English name? Ossetians are free to call places in Ossetian language but it's a nonsense that other languages also have to call them in Ossetian.
DE and EN names show how German or English speakers could call a place not how locals ...
32018-06-04 23:32:17 UTCSomeoneElse Not "Ossetian version of German name" but "German version of Ossetian name" (as opposed to "German version of Georgian name").
I'm sure that there's no doubt what the name:ka and name:os versions are, but what is the source of name:de or name:en? If it's just a transl...
42018-06-06 09:51:42 UTCHans Wieser So what you say (German version of Ossetian name) is wrong very wrong, if you check old Soviet topographic maps you will see that those names are international. Ossetians renamed everything only after the wars in 90s or in 2008. Main names of the settlements show Ossetian names because they are used...
12018-04-27 12:18:08 UTCchachafish Hello, thank you for contributions. Quite a few of the roads you have added cross paths, but you did not add a connecting node. Can you review your edits and correct them? If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Thank you :)
22018-05-24 19:12:43 UTCBogDan_Olegovich Hello! Thank you for flagging this, we found a bug and these issues are fixed.
32018-05-25 21:00:13 UTCSomeoneElse What was the bug?
42018-06-04 11:00:14 UTCBogDan_Olegovich Hello SomeoneElse, by bug I meant it was a mistake from our end, we missed on adding the connection nodes. Apologies for not being clear. I will make sure that this does not happen again.
52018-06-04 11:58:45 UTCSomeoneElse OK, thanks.
12018-06-02 13:18:25 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Just wondered - is https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4931632599 perhaps the same object as https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3782675933 from the year before?
If it helps, https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=21&lat=51.5711596&lon=-4.1061103 is a rendering that shows bo...
12018-05-31 09:10:41 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
You've added https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/592254750 but it's clear from the imagery that it's not _all_ building. The way to tag schools is "amenity=school" not "building=school".
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-09 23:52:13 UTCJesseMerriam This parking no longer exists. It has been dug up and is current a building under construction. I removed it when I ceased to exist.
22018-05-31 09:01:01 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Ludmila,
Are you going to fix the problem here or do you need someone else's help?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-05-31 08:58:52 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Does this parking lot actually exist? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57076529 suggests not.
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-05-30 21:00:19 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!

In this change you've deleted everything within quite a large area. I'm guessing that this might have been by mistake (it sometimes happens when people are trying to use OSM to create a personal map via "export" and don't realise they're deleting som...
12018-04-25 06:59:33 UTChighflyer74 Moin geozeisig!

Was hat Dich denn bewegt, weltweit aerodrome:type=military an die Militärplätze zu taggen? Gleiches gilt für die Segelflugplätze in Deutschland (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58396356). Das Tagging ist meiner Erkenntnis nach nie über den Proposal...
22018-04-27 05:32:48 UTCgeozeisig Ich hatte geplant anzuregen das Symbol für aerodrome:type=regional / gliding zu ändern. Dazu muss aber das tagging erst mal einheitlich sein. Denn erst ab einer gewissen Größenordnung fangen die an darüber nachzudenken. Die Änderung ist eher formal, die Eigenschaften...
32018-04-27 10:26:33 UTChighflyer74 Naja, für Diskussionen über bestimmte Tags gibt es die Tagging Mailingliste und wenn man die nicht kennt, kann man im sehr aktiven deutschen OSM Forum (https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=14) nachfragen. Ich glaube, Du unterschätzt die Problematik. Ich finde es ja gut, da...
42018-04-27 10:37:15 UTChighflyer74 Ich habe im Forum mal einen Thread eröffnet (https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=696630), zu dem ich Dich gern einladen möchte. Vielleicht kann man gemeinsam eine Lösung finden.
52018-05-03 19:18:57 UTCSomeoneElse This looks like a bit of an overzealous mechanical edit to me - https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1042032811 is presumably https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Ballykelly and closed in 1971.
How much checking did you give the rest of the data?
62018-05-29 12:24:45 UTCMateusz Konieczny I run a check due to request at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:aerodrome:type and I found that geozeisig removed at least 478 aerodrome tags since 2018-01-01.

List is at https://gist.github.com/matkoniecz/23bd62764cac4ed81984bb1f8af52dc8 and I am currently running second check that ...
72018-05-29 15:03:19 UTCSomeoneElse I've reverted this in https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/555781495 - it was an obvious mechanical edit made without checking (see comment above about RAF Ballykelly)
- Andy
82018-05-29 15:53:04 UTChighflyer74 Hello all!

Thanks for taking care of this. Also aerodrome:type=* had been added to hundreds of airports. This tag is far from being consistently defined and should also not be added as a mass edit. This had been reported to DWG and addressed on the forum with little to no concern, so I just let i...
92018-05-29 20:36:04 UTCMateusz Konieczny And other variant of search - https://gist.github.com/matkoniecz/23bd62764cac4ed81984bb1f8af52dc8#file-better-log - found 514 removals.
102018-05-29 20:38:49 UTCMateusz Konieczny "This had been reported to DWG and addressed on the forum with little to no concern" - maybe with clear evidence of mass scale it will go better? You can also mention that I volunteer for readding removed aerodrome tags (DWG probably has long queue of people that added copyright-violating ...
12018-04-15 16:55:53 UTCchachafish Hello, when you create a road that crosses a path, they must be joined by a node. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
22018-04-27 12:25:09 UTCchachafish Hello, thank you for contributions. Quite a few of the roads you have added cross paths, but you did not add a connecting node. Can you review your edits and correct them? If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Thank you :)
32018-05-25 04:19:07 UTCIrina Karachevtseva Hello! Thank you for flagging this, we found a bug and these issues are fixed.
42018-05-25 07:04:47 UTCSomeoneElse What do you mean by "we found a bug"?
52018-05-29 09:34:49 UTCIrina Karachevtseva Corrected the intersection of the line
12018-05-10 18:03:17 UTCPierZen Not a valid motive to delete lines because this comes from an import. You should comment changeset and discuss with creators. I did a Overpass query for history. See http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/yHQ
Looking at way 212063753, I see that nodes correspond to poles on the Bing Imagery.
You should rever...
22018-05-21 15:58:02 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
At https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/0.18280/31.70850 you've deleted the power line https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/256934918/history . That's actually still visible in the online imagery (a couple of different ones) there, both as a gap in the trees and as a series of pylons such as ...
12018-04-29 10:13:05 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
What is "source=Field Test"? Can you explain the source of the oneway change on e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/584351065/history please?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-05-06 08:40:31 UTCerantr1 Sorry, I meant Survey. All these changes were validated on-ground.
Thanks for noticing.
All the best,
Eran.
32018-05-10 10:31:50 UTCrebeccadavey Hi,
I believe that the node order for one of the parallel one-way sections of Farringdon Road near Kings Cross is now incorrect. The more southerly of the two branches (way 547168300) has a one-way direction heading northwest, whereas the node order now reflects a one-way direction going southeast....
42018-05-21 13:10:46 UTCerantr1 Hi Rebecca,
I looked at that way ID, but as far as I can see the node order goes NW, exactly like the one-way direction.
Unless I'm missing something here.
Thanks,
Eran.
52018-05-21 13:25:13 UTCrebeccadavey Hi Eran,
This was my mistake, I apologise! I thought the data I was using was up-to-date, but it wasn't and didn't include your change/fix.
Thanks for your help,
Rebecca
62018-05-21 13:47:14 UTCSomeoneElse Just in case it helps anyone in the future, https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=22&lat=51.526308&lon=-0.1128025 will show arrows and allow you to zoom in a bit more.
72018-05-22 08:41:00 UTCerantr1 Thanks Andy!
And no worries Rebecca :-)
12018-05-21 12:17:16 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
A quick question about this import - what was it that governed the tagging? Take as an example https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/422772848/history#map=19/40.62698/16.78819 . That's since been changed from man_made=chimney to building=yes, and looking at the imagery it certainly doesn't loo...
22018-05-21 12:17:57 UTCSomeoneElse Ciao,
Una rapida domanda su questa importazione: cosa ha regolato il tagging? Prendi come esempio https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/422772848/history#map=19/40.62698/16.78819. Sembra che sia stato cambiato da man_made = chimney a building = yes, e guardando le immagini non sembra certo un camino.
...
12018-05-20 22:35:31 UTCYorvik Prestigitator you are right, I put Liv the wrong side of the Viceroy, it is where the dolls house shop was, I have moved it there now
22018-05-21 00:10:31 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks!
12018-05-16 12:13:50 UTClefty74 This deletion removed a large part of the north boundary of the River Thames relation. The way should be restored and the nonexistent footpath removed by changing tags where needed.
I'd prefer to leave this to the @Greg73E as he has local knowledge.
22018-05-16 13:29:26 UTCGreg73E I think I'm in over my head here. Can the way be undeleted? I used the OSM web site editor.
32018-05-16 14:34:36 UTCSomeoneElse I've reverted it in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/59020134 as requested in https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/63508/help-revert-changeset-58999529 .
42018-05-16 14:43:34 UTCecatmur Removed spurious tags in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/59020549 . Reviewing other edits by https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/FrenchSuit/history
12018-05-16 09:06:23 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Donaldtrumpp, and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
I'm guessing by your edits that your part of the same organisation mapping service roads as http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ravsjith ? If so, it'd be great if you could update your details on OSM in the same way.
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-05-15 22:59:53 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
What does "removing issue segment" mean here? The current relation https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7390605/history doesn't make any sense - there's a "to" and a "via" but no "from".
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-28 23:31:04 UTCSomeoneElse_Revert This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 56324492, 56324700, 56324739, 56324971, 56325089, 56325106, 56325132, 56325160, 56325188, 56325491, 56325552, 56351058, 56351143, 56351268, 56351372, 56351413, 56351517, 56351961, 56352022, 56352105, 56352315, 56352356, 56352469, 56352540, ...
22018-05-12 19:16:40 UTCbryceco It looks like this revert destroyed data that existed prior to the changeset being reverted. For example the area around this node had ways deleted leaving orphaned nodes behind: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1725944920/history
32018-05-14 07:59:26 UTCSomeoneElse @bryceco Thanks for letting me know about the orphaned nodes here. What actually happened was that this user deleted these nodes (and the connected ways) as part of their changes and for some reason the revert was unable to restore the ways along with the nodes (likely a dependancy on some other no...
42018-05-15 00:04:15 UTCbryceco Sorry, I didn't notice that the way was previously deleted. Does the revert tool provide diagnostics when a revert partially fails? It would be great to have a note created at the location indicating it needs attention.
52018-05-15 07:27:44 UTCSomeoneElse @bryceco It does, but there were 9962 lines in the revert log that could need a note based on that, and I suspect adding 10k notes suggesting that "local people please to check this" might be frowned upon. Most of those were "can't revert because someone has already corrected the dat...
12017-03-23 16:21:32 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
You've accidentally uploaded the "learnosm" test data in the middle of the Atlantic in this changeset :)
I'll delete it...
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-05-10 08:16:50 UTCalesarrett Hi, the trees in Palma de Mallorca have the tag "name" filled with "platanero". I think that should not be the place for that information, but instead the tag "species" with "species=es", see examples at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural=tree
32018-05-12 12:04:53 UTCSomeoneElse @alesarrett - this mapper hasn't been active for a year. If there's anything that needs fixing and you can fix it yourself, I'd do that.
If on the other hand there is anything that you need help with, drop the data working group an email via data@osmfoundation.org .
Best Regards,
Andy (from the...
12018-05-10 21:24:21 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks for fixing!
12018-03-29 18:24:19 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Can you explain what "split ways and removed turn restriction" means here? Also what's the source of the change?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-05-06 08:45:46 UTCerantr1 Hi Andy,
I received an update about construction work in this part of the street and thought it would be a good idea to split in order to adapt it for the upcoming change. In any case, I can revert it if you think it's necessary.
32018-05-06 09:24:54 UTCSomeoneElse That doesn't explain the turn restriction https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3086416/history which was at https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1312264600 ?
42018-05-07 10:39:45 UTCerantr1 Hi Andy,
Regarding the turn restriction - I had to refresh my memory to realize why I removed it. The restriction (only_straight_on) was defined from way 230192075 to way 183555228. I was mistaken to think that it is defined from 183555228 to 230191864, which would have created a non-justified dead...
12018-01-20 15:53:58 UTCRoadGeek_MD99 Hi erantr1,
Thank you for contributing to OpenStreetMap. I've noticed that you have changed street names to the abbreviated form. It was 16th Street Northwest but you changed it to 16th St NW. Please do not shorten the long street names. The wiki says: "If the name can be spelled without an...
22018-01-21 08:48:58 UTCerantr1 Hey,
yes, my colleague already told me I shouldn't do it. Sorry about that.
Thanks for commenting!
Eran.
32018-03-29 18:19:10 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Eran,
Can you tell us who you are working for? The "my colleague" comment above suggests that you might be working for someone.
Best Regards,
Andy
42018-05-06 08:47:14 UTCerantr1 Hi Andy,
I answered you in a private message.
Thanks,
Eran.
52018-05-06 09:19:59 UTCSomeoneElse Hi Eran,
I'd suggest that you add details of who you're working for to your OSM profile (your PM to me says that you are working for someone but doesn't say who). Currently there's no information on your OSM profile at all.
To pick an example of how other comapnies tend to do this, here's a som...
62018-05-07 10:46:50 UTCerantr1 thanks for the suggestion, Andy. We will consider it.
12017-10-31 08:38:30 UTCSomeoneElse Hello FreedSky,
Please use changeset comments for your edits http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/FreedSky/history explaining what you're changing and what the source is. Changes to national borders, especially where there are multiple claims, should be clearer so that all relevant parties have a cha...
22017-10-31 08:39:02 UTCSomeoneElse 你好FreedSky,
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/FreedSky/history说明您正在改变的内容以及来源是什么。 对国界的变化,特别是多方面的要求应该更清楚,所有有关方面都有机会看看和评论所做的改变。
OpenStreetMap,所以请说明你的修改...
32018-02-09 16:11:07 UTCFreedSky I made some revisions based on the boundary data and actual satellite imagery. There are some discrepancies in the frontier. Of course, my guess may be wrong, but I try my best to be neutral. My amendment to this large boundary Is based on this logic, so nothing to say, I do not like to write a reas...
42018-02-09 16:11:46 UTCFreedSky The source is based on the data from China's official mapping bureau, and their boundary data can be consulted for comparison.
52018-02-09 17:03:28 UTCSomeoneElse There are two potential issues with that:
1) What's the licences associated with "data from China's official mapping bureau"? Is it compatible with OpenStreetMap?
2) Where this impacts the boundaries of other states there could be problems. A number of states in this region have overla...
62018-05-05 08:34:19 UTCFreedSky
My modification of the boundary is a feeling that some places are inconsistent with actual control. For example, some ravines are clearly in one of the countries and there are roads leading to them. If you don't think this is acceptable, you can discuss or return my editor.
72018-05-05 08:35:33 UTCFreedSky I also understand the specific conditions of the disputed areas between the two countries. Please rest assured that I will not arbitrarily modify the actual control boundary. As a user editing in the South China Sea, I know how tortured the boundary is.
82018-05-05 08:39:17 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks for the detailed explanation. Sometimes it might make sense to add something like that to your own changesets (because the changeset comment is limited to 256 characters) to explain the reasoning behind it.
92018-05-10 03:15:03 UTCFreedSky I also know that you are worried that, in fact, you can find that my series of boundary editors basically does not involve the disputed areas. It is just some of the borders identified by the existing two countries. The data used before OSM may be a bit error.
12018-05-04 10:51:51 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Rather than just saying "Fixed name" can you please explain the change in more detail? As can be seen from http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=2969761 different people have different ideas about what the name of this place should be.
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-05-03 22:07:13 UTCSomeoneElse Hello meganswatragh,
You may not be aware, but when you edit OpenStreetMap you're editing a map that everyone can see, not just your personal copy. Please do continue editing, but please do only add things that are verifiable on the ground. If you want to add a personal bookmark to MAPS.ME you can ...
22018-05-08 19:05:00 UTCSomeoneElse_Revert This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58797616 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some remaining unlikely ATMs, mostly in Northern Ireland.
12018-05-02 22:19:50 UTCSomeoneElse Hello corb555,
Can you please add a bit more useful to each changeset rather than just "fixed road"?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-05-02 22:10:31 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OSM!
Just for info - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/574821941 should really have a joining node with https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/216269582 , so that a router can direct you between the sidewalk and the alley and vice versa.
Hope you don't mind me mentioning this; ju...
12018-04-27 19:43:24 UTCGITNE Please do not add `addr:postcode` tags to `highway`s. What you meant to add was the `postal_code` tag. `addr:postcode` is for specifying address information on buildings and facilities only. Please use the `postal_code` tag.
22018-04-27 20:07:04 UTCGITNE Btw, asking out of pure curiosity: Since when has been Bing Streetside licensed for use in OpenStreetMap?
32018-04-27 20:37:33 UTCiandees It isn't.
42018-04-27 20:39:44 UTCbhousel hey GITNE, Mapbox has an agreement which allows Bing Streetside sourced detections to be used for contributions to OSM. Some more information is available here:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/daniel-j-h/diary/43242

and

https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/349
52018-04-28 11:16:21 UTCGITNE @iandees @bhousel Thank you for the clarification. On a short note, I do not know what to think of it in terms for the OSM community but it is perfectly legal.
62018-04-29 18:39:40 UTCSomeoneElse @bhousel It would help to document the process in the wiki, I think - neither https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/daniel-j-h/diary/43242 nor https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/349 explain things very well. Is the imagery only available by licence to Mapbox employees? Are the results of the im...
12018-04-29 05:36:48 UTCchachafish Hello, thank you for your additions to OSM. Many roads you added in Denver do not exist. You are using old imagery. You created roads directly through buildings, which are clearly mapped. Please use the most current imagery when mapping. Thank you.
22018-04-29 13:24:20 UTCWitcher_UA Hello. And thanks for the comment. For all of geometry, I added, I used Mapbox imagery. These imagery are the latest available in JOSM. I checked that some geometries do not exist in Google Maps 2018, but for legal reasons, I can not use it in JOSM. Thank you.
32018-04-29 18:25:09 UTCSomeoneElse @Witcher_UA - are you the same person as @Constantinum ?
42018-04-29 18:35:40 UTCfreebeer Hallo Witcher,
Why are you replying in the first person to a changeset by user Constantium, who is presently blocked from OSM for failing to give a satisfactory reply where organisational details are needed to be provided? Blocks are to be taken seriously, not to be treated as an annoyance to be i...
52018-06-06 09:08:17 UTCWitcher_UA Hello, and sorry for the late reply. Witcher_UA it's my second account that was created when I had auth problem with my main one. As far as I know there is no opportunity to delete Witcher_UA as I want it to. I'm sorry that I create so much problem with this. Now I'm understand about out-of-date ima...
62018-06-06 09:09:35 UTCConstantinum Hello, and sorry for the late reply. Witcher_UA it's my second account that was created when I had auth problem with my main one. As far as I know there is no opportunity to delete Witcher_UA as I want it to. I'm sorry that I create so much problem with this. Now I'm understand about out-of-date ima...
72018-06-06 10:40:30 UTCfreebeer Hallo Ko(n?)styantyn, thanks for replying.
Please note that OpenStreetMap also places great value on the Open part, both in being open to communication, as well as being about about how one works, including sources.
The changeset comment allows you up to 255 characters, and I often use most of the...
82018-06-06 12:41:09 UTCAdamant1 I just wanted to mention that there was a thing in the newsletter (I think that was the source at least) that Microsoft has given us permission to use their street level imagery for mapping. Its a really good reference to use in places like where the note is California Freebeer mentioned that are co...
12018-04-29 16:15:14 UTCSomeoneElse Hello again erantr1,

In https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1819 I asked you to answer the questions that people were asking you at http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=7154587 . It looks like you're still not doing that - there are a number of questions that need answ...
22018-04-29 16:17:01 UTCSomeoneElse To be absolutely clear about how to reply:

Click the changeset number at http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=7154587 .
Click in the empty box below the discussion.
Type in your answer.
Click "Comment".

(although as you have replied to some before, you presum...
32018-05-06 08:49:23 UTCerantr1 Hello Andy,
As you mentioned yourself, I have answered and addressed several issues raised in the past. I answered the other pending questions now.
Thanks,
Eran.
12018-04-28 16:02:59 UTCcarciofo Hi, roads were deleted in this changeset, but their constituent nodes were not, so that what remains are unconnected untagged roads...
22018-04-28 16:09:19 UTCcarciofo *unconnected untagged nodes
32018-04-28 17:10:59 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks - can you show where? These mappers seem to have been working in teams, so there might be a few places. Obviously I'll check myself, but if you let me know where you're seeing it it'll save time.
42018-04-28 17:26:39 UTCcarciofo Hi, I was mapping in north Broward County, FL, and noticed the nodes. It seems both nodes and ways were originally created in the same changeset as both are/were v1. This is a small example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?changeset=57250325#map=17/26.28700/-80.18459. Cheers
52018-04-28 23:31:01 UTCSomeoneElse_Revert This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 56324492, 56324700, 56324739, 56324971, 56325089, 56325106, 56325132, 56325160, 56325188, 56325491, 56325552, 56351058, 56351143, 56351268, 56351372, 56351413, 56351517, 56351961, 56352022, 56352105, 56352315, 56352356, 56352469, 56352540, ...
62018-04-28 23:44:01 UTCSomeoneElse @carciofo The unconnected nodes at your example location have now gone (it took a while for the revert to complete) but if you see anywhere else showing that problem, please get in touch.
12018-04-28 09:45:24 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Can you explain what the licence associated with "Bing Streetside Imagery" is please?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-05-21 07:19:07 UTCAndreyhmk Hello Andy!
We use the data "Mapbox ML Detections from the Streetside & Mapbox Satellite"
Best Regards,
Andrew
12018-04-26 12:33:43 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
Is "Rally Finish" really a caravan site, or are you just trying to make a personal map? If it's not, you might find https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/ useful - you can add any markers you like in there that you want.
You may not be aware, but when you ...
22018-05-08 19:05:05 UTCSomeoneElse_Revert This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58797616 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some remaining unlikely ATMs, mostly in Northern Ireland.
12018-04-24 15:52:19 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
All of your changesets have the comment "adding parking". Can you please provide a bit more detail about what you're adding to OSM?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-24 16:28:48 UTCConstantinum Hello,
I adding and editing geometry of parking in this area.
Best Regards,
Kostyantyn
32018-04-24 16:34:51 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Thanks for getting in touch. Is someone directing you where and how to add parking? If so, we'd like to get in touch with them. There have been a number of groups of people being asked to make these sorts of changes (sometimes in error) and we'd like to explain to them some of the problem...
42018-05-16 05:16:14 UTCConstantinum Hello, and sorry for the late reply. I'm a part of [GISua](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GISua) team. Please send any general feedback on [GISua's](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GISua) work on OpenStreetMap to [Vladimir Ovramenko](https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Vladimir Ovramenko) or...
52018-05-24 17:57:48 UTCConstantinum Hello again Andy, thank you for letting us know. From here on we'll be more descriptive in our changeset comments.
Best Regards,
Kostyantyn
12018-04-24 15:47:55 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap.
You appear to be using orphan nodes added by another mapper here. Can you explain what is going on?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-24 15:48:05 UTCSomeoneElse Привіт і ласкаво просимо до OpenStreetMap.
Ви, схоже, використовуєте сирі вузли, додані іншим картографом тут. Чи можете ви пояснити, що відбувається?
З найкращими побажа...
32018-04-24 16:29:09 UTCConstantinum Hello,
I adding and editing geometry of parking in this area. Previous mapper maybe wanted to add roads on the parking lots, but add only orphan nodes. I just finished her work.
Best Regards,
Kostyantyn
12018-04-24 10:16:55 UTCSomeoneElse Are you sure that https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/582837445 connects all the way through and there isn't a fence part-way down it?
12018-04-24 10:09:41 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
You've called this changeset "adding parking" yet there are lots of way deletions in here too.
Can you explain what you're doing here?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-05-14 07:37:45 UTCAndreyhmk Hello, called the package of edits "the addition of parking lots" and corrected what was incorrectly de-indexed.
12018-04-24 10:03:14 UTCSomeoneElse You've said "gave access as private" (presumably for https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/582756171 ) but that doesn't seem to have been done?
12018-04-24 09:52:53 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Are you sure https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/583082631 is actually a service road and not just a wide cycleway or footway?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-24 09:47:43 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Are you sure https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/583124717 is residential? It looks just like a parking aisle to me.
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-24 09:42:08 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Is way 58364553 also called Blinn Avenue? The things it joins to at each end are called that.
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-24 08:22:09 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Is https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/583124126 really a residential road? It just looks like someone's driveway to me.
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-24 08:00:33 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Are you sure that https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/583117297 is an unclassified road? It really doesn't look like anything much. What source did you use here?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-24 09:22:01 UTCadam_philips Hi Andy,
I have put that by mistake.
It's actually a drive way.
I have made the necessary changes.
Thank you for stopping by,
Adam.
12018-04-24 07:44:08 UTCSomeoneElse Are you sure that there is access all the way down https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/583122617 ? It looks like there might be a wall near the fire department.
12018-03-30 20:53:19 UTCchillly Errrr, surely the website is copyright. DO you have permission to use this in OSM?

We take copyright VERY seriously
22018-03-30 23:14:37 UTCEgrettaGarzetta I understand that, a little better today than yesterday; but does that mean the names of the hostels can't be used without permission or does it mean they can't be used because they're copyright?
32018-03-31 11:30:25 UTCSomeoneElse @EgrettaGarzetta OSM would need data released under an appropriate licence in order to be able to use it. There's some information at https://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright . There's more information over at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import , and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Impo...
42018-04-23 19:58:33 UTCSomeoneElse As I read the thread at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2018-April/thread.html#21270 , YHA haven't given permission for this data to be used. Are you still working to get that permission?
12018-04-13 07:11:01 UTCchachafish Hello, you seem to have added thousands of untagged lines and nodes in your changesets. Are these supposed to represent something?
22018-04-23 08:15:53 UTCMateusz Konieczny Do you think that we should wait or delete ways like https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/577813798#map=18/33.09372/-117.21442 ? Given id=502903 I suspect that it is poorly done import of unclear data from unknown source (maybe copyrighted on top of that).
32018-04-23 09:21:55 UTCchachafish The creator of this changeset does not communicate. I recommend this be reverted.
42018-04-23 13:10:50 UTCSomeoneElse @Mateusz @chachafish I'm happy to help with a revert (and I'll also mention it to @woodpeck who gave the 0-hour block mesage), but what it'd be really useful to know would be which changesets out of the 30 need to be reverted? Some do look OK at first glance; some (like this one) definitely do not....
52018-04-23 13:45:07 UTCchachafish Hi, and thanks for the help. I agree, some of the changesets do look okay. The only changesets that seem to be wildly incorrect are:
57918111
and
57914505
It would be great to see them reverted. Other edits by this group of mappers have some mistakes and are a bit sloppy, but I'm able to stay o...
62018-04-23 17:51:17 UTCMateusz Konieczny Given that it is not a newbie user trying to start with OSM but somebody trying to make import in the really poor way I am tempted to revert everything due to copyright concerns.
72018-04-23 19:42:17 UTCSomeoneElse I've reverted the two "unconnected node" changesets in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58348196 . Another mapper (possibly "on the same team") had already deleted some of the extraneaous stuff in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58342443 .
Best Regards,
Andy
82018-04-24 01:48:26 UTCchachafish Cheers! Thanks for your help :)
12018-04-23 18:52:48 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
You've called this changeset "adding parking" yet there are lots of way deletions in here too.
Can you explain what you're doing here?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-05-14 07:41:47 UTCAndreyhmk Hello, called the package of edits "the addition of parking lots" and corrected what was incorrectly de-indexed.
12018-04-23 07:10:20 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Are you sure that https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/582765686 is residential? It looks more like a parking_aisle to me.
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-23 07:04:49 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Just for info - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/582768372 looks like a "service=parking_aisle" from the imagery.
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-23 06:58:48 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Looking at the imagery, I don't think that https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/582781017 has a corner at the south end that points west. It's in the shadows, but I'd imagine that it'd just go due south down to Beverly Park Way.
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-23 06:51:23 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Are you sure that https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/582781701 is residential rather than a service road? It looks like just access to 1 or 2 properties to me.
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-23 06:31:06 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Just checking - is there really no access from https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/581800559 to the school itself? It seems odd that people at the school would have to walk to the main road and then go back into the parking area?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-22 11:37:01 UTCYorvik Prestigitator is www.openstreetmap.org/way/582066515a footpath? It doesn't appear to be tagged
22018-04-22 11:37:35 UTCYorvik Prestigitator sorry www.openstreetmap.org/way/582066515
(missed out a space)
32018-04-22 14:00:06 UTCSomeoneElse I don't know yet! There's a stile at the east end with a Millennium Way sign pointing west down the stray, but I don't know yet where there next sign is, or if there's a defined path down there.
12018-04-21 01:03:24 UTCSomeoneElse Any reason for switching the name order from "SR / SQ" to "SQ / SR" for https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1907401314/history ? I believe it was "SR / SQ" before because it was in a Serb-speaking-majority area.
22018-04-21 17:50:31 UTCMarc Konjuhi I thought I made a compromise with somebpody about this, but we made it different so I made a mistake there. I will reset the serb municipalities to SR / AL.
Thanks for your help.
12018-04-11 19:36:37 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Manek Sonu,
Can you explain why you've changed the way here to a footpath? Previously the source included "survey" - are you saying that the previous mapper was wrong, or what?
Also all the other footpaths here are cycleable. How do you know that this one isn't?
Best Regards,
A...
22018-04-17 08:08:50 UTCsonmanek hello andy,
thanks for bringing this to me.I should have kept the access of bicycle=yes instead of unspecified.
Best Regards,
Manek Sonu
32018-04-17 12:27:35 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Can you explain why you've changed the way here to a footpath?
Best Regards,
Andy
42018-04-18 22:24:01 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-17 09:37:14 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Can you explain the reason for the deletion of the relation https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5583605/history here please?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-10 06:47:53 UTCSomeoneElse Hello counter_striker,
What was the source of the changes here?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-10 07:47:16 UTCcounter_striker I have used the street sign at the entrance of Broughton street to change the access.
32018-04-12 12:02:51 UTCSomeoneElse Where did you see the street sign?
42018-04-13 08:14:40 UTCcounter_striker Please turn on the - Traffic Sign Overlay (Mapillary) then you'll see the sign between the nodes(https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3426585989 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3561544523)
52018-04-13 09:17:51 UTCSomeoneElse That's from November 2016 though - are you sure it is still accurate? The person who took the photo looks like they might be an OSM mapper - maybe ask them or leave an OSM note so that someone local to the area can check? There are lots of mappers in Edinburgh - if a note appears it normally gets ...
62018-04-13 09:24:18 UTCSomeoneElse Looking a bit closer - it's probably related to the changes in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/51851320 (by the same person that took the mapillary photo). I've asked there.
Best Regards,
Andy
72018-04-13 09:41:50 UTCdrnoble This road has been open for some time. I've made a few updates to the temporary arrangements based on the current state
82018-04-13 09:44:14 UTCdrnoble Note also that the tram on York Place has been operational for several years now, and the extension down Leith Walk isn't yet approved.
The construction work here relates to the redevelopment of Picardy Place as part of the ongoing St James Centre redevelopment
92018-04-13 09:54:11 UTCSomeoneElse @drnoble brilliant, thanks!
102018-04-13 09:58:58 UTCSomeoneElse @counter_striker - where is the iD that you are using hosted? It says you're using 2.4.1, but the current osm.org version is version 2.7.1.
112018-04-13 10:47:40 UTCcounter_striker I am unaware about this version thing. could you please throw some light on it.
122018-04-13 11:27:54 UTCSomeoneElse If you click the "Edit" button above ^^ you'll get iD 2.7.1. What website are you looking at before you go into the iD editor?
132018-04-14 21:54:10 UTCcounter_striker Actually, I am not seeing any iD. It is simply navigating into the edit window. All I see is "Zoom in to edit"

PS: I have always been logged in. I hope that's not an issue.
142018-04-14 22:31:02 UTCSomeoneElse "iD" is the name of the editor. Move the mouse to the bottom right hand corner of the window of the latest version and it says "What's new in iD 2.7.1".
The question, though, is what site are you on before you start editing OSM data? It's clearly not this one...
152018-04-16 00:54:05 UTCcounter_striker Okay. I understood. I am seeing iD 2.7.1 and its taking me to another page(https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD) when clicked.
162018-04-16 08:57:35 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks.
That doesn't explain why all your changesets show "iD 2.4.1" though. Which website are you using that starts iD 2.4.1 for you?
172018-04-16 10:25:36 UTCcounter_striker I am using Open Street Map website(https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?changeset=57960469#map=19/55.95623/-3.18722)
Not sure about the iD 2.4.1. I might have to recheck my changesets once.
182018-04-16 10:28:46 UTCSomeoneElse > I am using Open Street Map website
Unfortunately, I don't believe that you are.
Either you're using some sort of captive portal that points www.openstreetmap.org somewhere else, or you're not being entirely honest with us here.
192018-04-16 10:51:19 UTCcounter_striker Well, I would have shared my screen if there was an option to. Tell me if something is going wrong from my end. And also suggest me to have my iD as 2.7.1. Thanks.
202018-04-16 11:09:17 UTCSomeoneElse Yes - posting a screenshot at an image sharing site might help.
In the meantime though, can't you just tell us who is asking you to make these edits? We'd like to help them understand a bit more about OSM, but can't do that if we don't know who they are.
212018-04-17 01:03:09 UTCcounter_striker I have tried to see the iD. It's now 2.8.0. Let me remind you that, I am performing these edits on my own based on OSM wiki pages. I am jobless, trying to learn and contribute.
222018-04-17 08:13:27 UTCSomeoneElse We're grateful for your contributions, but would like to have answers to the questions raised above. A number of other mappers seem to be making the same mistakes as you did here, and it looks like you're editing based on requests from someone else. We'd like to help whoever that is more about OSM...
232018-04-18 22:24:32 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-16 10:08:34 UTCSomeoneElse Hello again,
As discussed in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57960469 you're still using iD 2.4.1 here.
Can you explain why?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-13 09:23:36 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Does it seem plausible that Broughton Street is (still) closed now, presumably related to the St James development? Someone's marked it as access=no based on a mapillary photo you took of the north end in 2016 (see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57960469 ). This changeset suggests th...
12018-04-12 08:10:10 UTCNakaner Hi counter_striker,

you seem to be part of a organized or commercial editing activity. Please add a note to your profile page at https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/counter_striker (editable via https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/counter_striker/account) which states which company/organisation you...
22018-04-13 08:19:17 UTCcounter_striker Hello Nakaner, I am a gamer and I have started freelance mapping. I researched and found out OSM is the best of it. Hence, started my edits. I am jobless so cannot keep a company name. Pay and Software are too big things to discuss. I wish I have some workmates. But sadly I do not have any. I would ...
32018-04-13 09:03:54 UTCSomeoneElse Hi counter_striker,
You might find some of the links from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contact helpful.
Best Regards,
Andy
42018-04-13 09:10:30 UTCcounter_striker Thank you for the link Mr.Andy. I am really glad to have contact channel information.
12018-04-09 12:41:44 UTCSomeoneElse Hello counter_striker and welcome to OSM,
"cars are seen on road" does not imply "Motor vehicle = yes". It might be any sort of access, including private.
Please don't make changes like this based on guesswork.
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-10 00:57:45 UTCcounter_striker Changing the access to private as per your comment.
Thanks for correcting me.
32018-04-10 06:47:27 UTCSomeoneElse Hello counter_striker,
It's not enough just to say "Thanks for correcting me" - you also need to explain why you make changes like this in future. You're still doing this - see for example https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57960469 .
Best Regards,
Andy
42018-04-13 08:23:23 UTCcounter_striker I have been following the previous editors. I did not see anybody writing explanations for the edits. However, I am doing the edits based on the evidence(imagery). Looks like, OSM does not encourage new talents :(
52018-04-13 08:46:57 UTCSomeoneElse Hello counter_striker,
Thanks for your reply.
OSM very much encourages new editors, but we'd definitely encourage you to map your local area first so that you can see how things look in aerial imagery relates to how they really are on the ground.
Also, some of the places that you are mapping in (...
62018-04-13 08:54:25 UTCSomeoneElse One more thing - your edits seem to be part of a series of co-ordinated edits, some of which mappers have suggested might be in error. Some people in the OSM community have suspected that you're part of this group and are being paid to make these edits.
If you make worldwide changes that are in er...
72018-04-14 21:55:30 UTCcounter_striker I have updated my bio with my information. I hope all the prejudice got some clarity.
Ragards.
82018-04-18 22:24:58 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-12 07:39:00 UTCSomeoneElse Does https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/579127004 connect with the adjacent footway at all?
22018-04-13 04:16:52 UTCraju atava i have created the way to the adjoining house.the footpath was created about an year ago by some one else...its not this "someone else" anyhoww.....
32018-04-13 04:21:18 UTCraju atava please let me know if my edits are contradicting with anything? if so, how?
42018-04-13 07:26:44 UTCSomeoneElse @raju atava - you've made one edit with that account - http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/54586327 - and this account (ravsjith) has made 279 so far. Maybe you're the same person? (which is OK - in OSM many people have more than one account).
52018-04-13 07:32:06 UTCSomeoneElse There's nothing wrong with adding new things to the map - I just asked whether the footways connected or not. Are you familiar with the area?
Incidentally, (@ravsjith), you can see the other changesets where users have asked questions at
http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid...
12018-04-12 09:57:56 UTCSomeoneElse Hello pattamatta,
Is there any reason why you deleted https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/449139305/history here? Please note that there has been a lot of redevelopment here and the Bing aerial imagery is very out of date.
Why did you choose to edit this road in Hucknall? Did someone give you a li...
22018-04-13 00:33:13 UTCpattamatta Hi Andy,

I remember editing this road and I am pretty sure I actually wanted to connect Titchfield Street and Torkard Way together. However I don't remember deleting any segment. My intention was to make a connection between the two roads which are now connected with a small footpath segment. If ...
32018-04-13 01:46:20 UTCSomeoneElse The point is that they actually don't connect - the Bing imagery is wrong. The Esri imagery is more up to date, but to do it properly you would need to actually go there.
42018-04-18 22:26:34 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-12 14:17:17 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Are you sure about the change to https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/83871869/history here? I can understand why you're confused that a road joins a bridleway, but how do you know that this is the road that is wrong, not the other one?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-12 21:08:14 UTCrobbieonsea A cursory look at other sources such as Bing, OS_OpenData_Streetview & NLS OS:1:25K sources suggest this is a track/service road to an isolated place in the middle of the Welsh hillsides.
Clearly bridleway is closer to reality than an unclassified road, although personally I would have made it ...
32018-04-12 23:09:32 UTCtrigpoint I can add some local knowledge here, this is a track leading to a what looks like a derelict farm, it is not a bridleway although I do not know its legal status.
The road labelled Mountain Track, some name tag abuse, is certainly not a bridleway. It is a track and based on experience the access=no ...
42018-04-18 22:25:04 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-12 13:06:44 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Would it be possible to provide a bit more detail about what "improper road directionality and geometry" means please?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-12 13:02:57 UTCSomeoneElse Hello veenabs and welcome to OSM,
What was the source of the "changed to one way" here? Are you just looking at imagery, or have you actually visited the area?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-12 12:15:52 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Can you explain the source of "Changed road Access information" here please?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-12 12:13:20 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Can you explain the change you made here? I don't understand what "not routable path" means.
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-11 19:43:17 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Raghavendra T,
Just wondered how you knew that this road should be one way?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-12 10:57:27 UTCRaghavendra T I have edited based on GPS traces
32018-04-12 12:09:06 UTCSomeoneElse Which GPS traces were these?
12018-04-12 06:15:50 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Raghavendra T,
What was the source of the direction change here?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-12 11:25:49 UTCRaghavendra T I have done based on GPS traces
32018-04-12 12:08:37 UTCSomeoneElse Where did you see the GPS traces?
12018-04-12 06:20:38 UTCSomeoneElse Hello charabor,
Why have you chnaged https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23618254/history from living_street to residential? There's no reason why you can't have parking rules on a living street and no reason why people can't drive there, it's just a different sort of street.
If you have got any qu...
22018-04-12 06:37:42 UTCcharabor If you check access for such street before my edits it was motor vehicle access=not specified,
which restricts vehicle movement & the tag is ambiguous,since vehicle movement & mapillary data shows that vehicle is permitted I felt it should be modified.
32018-04-12 07:43:35 UTCSomeoneElse > If you check access for such street before my edits it was motor vehicle access=not specified
Where does it say that?
If you have got any questions please do ask other mappers - don't just change a road from a type that you don't understand to one that you do.
42018-04-12 08:47:23 UTCcharabor it was there in the living street bBEFORE I EDITED,thats why I updated the street attribute,please read the comment carefully before replying back.

In case I have doubts I will definitely contact OSM members.
52018-04-12 08:58:37 UTCSomeoneElse > it was there in the living street bBEFORE I EDITED,
I asked "where does it say that" and you didn't answer the question. Do you mean "in the online OSM editor that you are using", or something else?
> please read the comment carefully before replying back.
You're real...
62018-04-12 09:23:40 UTCcharabor Yes,exactly. OSM editor,I meant that,you wish to know anything specific?
72018-04-12 11:59:04 UTCSomeoneElse For the record, there are at least a dozen different OSM editors. Your changeset details above suggests that you are using "iD", which is the default one.
In order to be sure that your change from living_street to residential is correct, you'd need to survey it in person. You are just g...
82018-04-13 19:33:49 UTCfreebeer Andy,
the default newbie editor iD is not the one this user is using, as the few times I have fired up iD before it gets killed off, I see a much more recent one, and I don't know what URL would give me the ancient 2.4.1 which no doubt appears very different than what I can see.
.
Charabor, you h...
92018-04-18 22:25:12 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-12 07:57:27 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
It looks like there's still a problem with https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/121746864 . It previously connected to a bus stop by mistake. It now joins Station Road but still connects to the bus stop by mistake.
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-18 22:24:43 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-12 07:53:04 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Why have you changed the access to https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/18619235/history ? The previous edit to this road makes it clear that access was based on bollard locations.
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-18 22:24:11 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-09 12:33:31 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Can you explain what "fixed directions" means please?
Also, what was the source of the change?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-12 03:03:40 UTCcharabor acronym for changing bi-directional to oneway or vice versa.
32018-04-12 05:30:57 UTCSomeoneElse How did you know it needed changing?
42018-04-12 05:37:13 UTCcharabor vehicle directions,traffic cams
52018-04-12 05:45:18 UTCSomeoneElse What was the licencw associated with that source?
62018-04-12 05:55:45 UTCcharabor multiple sources in edit in browser you can find vehicle direction,mapillary data & also my frequent traveling colleagues who have prior experience of area visit.
72018-04-12 06:26:21 UTCSomeoneElse Now it sounds like you're just making stuff up. Please link to a specific source of this specific change. Note that all changes to OSM have to be subject to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Verifiability .
82018-04-12 06:32:35 UTCcharabor I think its pretty evident from simple vehicle directions in OSM itself, if you care to check that at least once instead of pointlessly arguing over the same thing,if in a street you see vehicles going in both directions in aerial imagery then most of the times its bidirectional. I don't understand ...
92018-04-12 06:43:17 UTCcharabor I assure for the record that changes are made based on logic & evidence,if %age of human error is accounted for I think the corrections are at par with other mappers,hopefully we can all cooperate & do improve OSM data.
102018-04-18 22:24:07 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-12 06:14:15 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Suchitra,
What was the source of the access change here?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-12 06:07:21 UTCSomeoneElse Hello ravsjith and welcome to OSM.
Please use more meaningful changeset comments rather than just "added the missing roads" every time. What was the reason that you added these roads here? What was the source?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-12 06:02:49 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Roshni_p6,
Can you explain what "left restricted" means here?
Also what was the source for your change?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-09 09:29:26 UTCSomeoneElse Can you explain why you made this change? The previous two editors of this way are both local to Derby, and are familiar with the area. Why do you think they are wrong?
22018-04-09 09:32:59 UTCwill_p How do you know Thorntree Lane is bidirectional? You clearly haven't visited the location. I can see from the aerial imagery that the road is very narrow, so it is likely to be oneway. Additionally the mapper who originally added the oneway did so after surveying the area on the ground.

I recogni...
32018-04-09 11:50:11 UTCkreuzschnabel The German forum has just become concerned about these edits too. Maybe a mapping party being not aware that they are editing not in a playground sandbox but within a live database used by others in real time?
42018-04-09 11:58:51 UTCSomeoneElse @kreuzschnabel Could you drop the DWG a mail please? Just so that we have the full list of accounts involved.

I don't think that it's a mapping party, as they appear to be working exclusively in business hours UTC+5. My guess is that some company is trying to "fix" OSM routing but doe...
52018-04-09 12:21:12 UTCkreuzschnabel Done.
62018-04-10 10:35:22 UTCDave Venables This section is definitely oneway. No egress onto Morledge. Clear no entry sign at the western end of this short stretch of Thorntree Lane.
Mirror image of the other end; one can enter Thorntree Lane from Saint Peter’s Street or Morledge but must leave via Exchange Street.
Entry from Morle...
72018-04-11 17:45:04 UTCDave Venables Entrances to Thorntree Lane from Morledge and Saint Peter's Street both now correctly show one way.
I've added a note on Exchange Street as it is currently just marked as Pedestrian only and I suspect there is a limited and conditional use by vehicles exiting Thorntree Lane to get to Albert Street....
82018-04-11 18:26:07 UTCSomeoneElse @Dave yes - I reverted it in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57999066 .
92018-04-18 22:26:50 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-03-12 19:25:57 UTCgappleto97 Hey. Just letting you know that all your recent edits got flagged on OsmCha for "unknown iD instance". You might want to check your editor to make sure that this isn't a big deal.
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#REVIEWED_GOOD #OSMCHA
Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.mapbo...
22018-04-11 12:28:56 UTCSomeoneElse @sachinv - which iD instance are you using?
12018-04-11 10:10:06 UTCSomeoneElse Hello wolverine9696,
Can you explain how it is possible to make the change that you have just made based on aerial imagery alone?
That does not seem possible to me.
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-18 22:27:07 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-11 10:07:45 UTCSomeoneElse Hello nakamuraa,
Can you explain how it is possible to know the access rights here based on aerial imagery?
Please don't just guess!
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-18 22:26:21 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-11 06:42:27 UTCSomeoneElse See also https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1886 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1848 .
No reason has yet been received for these access changes (this example is one of many).
22018-04-18 22:24:55 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-03-28 21:28:09 UTCpaulbiv It's not a 'feature' and it's not a service road. Whatever gave you that idea? It's a High Street, Roman road etc. Them previous classification of highway=pedestrian is far closer. Are you a an armchair mapper? On the ground wins ALWAYS in OSM.
22018-03-30 09:29:38 UTCgalithot Hi Paulbiv, I have done the edits based on the aerial imagery available. Apologies if that were not matching with the ground truth. Hence edited. Thanks for reverting my edits.
32018-03-30 09:45:43 UTCSomeoneElse Hi galithot,
Can you also explain why you made this change _here_? You are making changes in lots of geographically separated areas which suggests that you haven't actually visited the places in question. Are you part of some project, and if so, what is that?
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, on behal...
42018-04-11 02:18:33 UTCgalithot I have made the edit using Remote Mapping technique and following the instructions on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tags.
52018-04-11 06:32:41 UTCSomeoneElse @galithot Please answer the question.
62018-04-18 22:22:22 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-10 06:41:52 UTCSomeoneElse Hello __thanos__,
Can you please explain what the source of the access changes here was?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-18 22:25:08 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-10 06:38:16 UTCSomeoneElse Hello __thanos__,
Can you explain how the footpath joins the road at https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/436161937 ? It seems to do so at a stile (see https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=18&lat=50.819913&lon=-1.558656 ), which seems very unlikely.
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-18 22:24:05 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-09 21:21:25 UTCSomeoneElse Any reason why you've deleted the big area of tarmac at the top of Cromford? Has the road layout changed?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-11 19:40:08 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58015667 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by sri_harsha because of participation in an undiscussed organised edit with lots of errors. See https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=61964 for further informatio...
12018-04-09 21:16:24 UTCSomeoneElse Oops - you've added this by mistake in the middle of the Atlantic. Perhaps something went wrong in OsmAnd?
12018-04-09 12:45:36 UTCSomeoneElse Hello __thanos__ and welcome to OSM,
Can you explain the source of your change to https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23415395/history please?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-18 22:27:09 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-09 09:21:00 UTCSomeoneElse You have changed the highway=construction to a highway=residential here (but left the construction tag), and claim that you used Esri World Imagery, yet that imagery clearly shows the road as being still in construction.
What is your source that the road is now complete?
22018-04-18 22:22:34 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-04 23:35:08 UTCSomeoneElse Oops - that bus route goes through the middle of the Atlantic?
22018-04-05 06:03:19 UTCyxoc That is indeed quite unusual for a Paris urban bus line ;-) Thanks for having spotted this. If I am not mistaken you have already removed the bogus node, right ?

Thanks -yxoc
32018-04-06 23:09:54 UTCSomeoneElse Yes, I've already deleted it.
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-06 20:09:00 UTCSomeoneElse Hi Syed Mujeeb,
Something's gone wrong here, I think. If you look at http://osmhv.openstreetmap.de/changeset.jsp?id=57730892 which shows the new things added in a changeset in green you can see that a new "straight line" has been added by you.
It might not have been anything you did wro...
12018-04-06 19:44:14 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
What was the source of the access changes in this changeset? As the roads have been left, the access rules make no sense.
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-18 22:24:31 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-05 08:53:30 UTCSomeoneElse Are you sure that https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/2956475/history is oneway at all?
22018-04-18 22:26:10 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-04 23:27:21 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Please don't add test data to the live OpenStreetMap Server. If you want a test server, perhaps http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-04-04 22:39:48 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Can you explain your change to https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/35282553/history please? It looks like (as with many of your previous edits) you're just guessing without actually surveying properly at all. Given the aerial imagery that is available it's very unlikely that all of Lime Road...
22018-04-18 22:26:08 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-04 22:29:42 UTCSomeoneElse Hello again yaswap,
What's the source of the change to https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/24037112/history ? I suspect that it's unlikely to be unclassified, but how do you know that it's a footway and not something that allows perhaps cycle or horse access as well?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-18 22:22:21 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-03 12:44:57 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Can you explain why you removed the "private" tag from https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/452932832/history ?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-18 22:26:26 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-02 20:06:44 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OSM!
What prompted you to look at the ESRI imagery inside fmr RAF Leconfield and add http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/574640753 there?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-18 22:26:28 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-04-02 11:26:19 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Mrninja2001 and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
One quick request - would it be possible to use more meaningful changeset comments? Currently you're using "............." which doesn't explain what you've changed and why. Something more helpful would be something like "re-traced ri...
12018-04-02 11:06:06 UTCSomeoneElse Hello yopaseopor,
As I understand it this edit removed some data from OSM which has now been re-added in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57695251 . Are you happy about the current state of the data now - presumably what was missing has now been restored?
Also - one more question - what do...
22018-04-02 11:07:45 UTCSomeoneElse (en español)
Hola yopaseopor,
Según tengo entendido, esta edición eliminó algunos datos de OSM que ahora se han vuelto a agregar en https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57695251. ¿Estás contento con el estado actual de los datos ahora, es de suponer que...
32018-04-12 21:57:31 UTCyopaseopor No, I think you misunderstood it. Read it. completely http://yopaseopor.blogspot.com.es/2018/04/no-no-estoy-contento-no-im-not-happy.html
12018-04-02 09:53:53 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Can you explain what the change was here? "Fix boundary Moocco" doesn't really explain what you did. In particular, are the relation memberships on https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29119691#map=13/35.8944/-5.3466 correct?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-04-03 06:38:30 UTCFlynn Marquardt Hi Andy,
here is a longer description with typo correction:
Fix boundary Morocco by by adding missing way 44630799 as inner.

Longer explanation:
- boundaries must close!
- a changeset before my change left an unclosed/open border regarding Ceuta
- I just (re) added the missing way to make to...
12018-04-01 22:00:20 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Any reason you've added network=National_Rail to Darley Dale? To get on the national rail network you'd have to cross to the other platform at Matlock.
Best Regards,
Andy
PS: I was sat in a queue at the level crossing earlier today while some old LMS coaches went past with a steam engine at...
22018-04-02 09:23:09 UTCJamesBourne Andy,
Thanks for the heads up - have ammended that to 'Peak Rail' and added usage=tourism tags to that line.
Regards
James
32018-04-02 09:28:10 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks James!
12018-04-02 08:58:42 UTCSomeoneElse Hello ygudeti,
Can you explain the reasoning behind http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/575467466 please?
What is the source that this and the adjacent flare are both in fact parking aisles?
What is the source of the fact that the northern one is eastbound and the southern one westbound? In Bel...
12018-04-01 21:49:59 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks for this - it's great to have contributions "from the inside" of industrial sites etc. However, would it be possible to use changeset comments that are a bit more descriptive? "ÉT" on every changeset doesn't really help anyone understand what's changed...
Best Re...
12018-04-01 18:45:21 UTCSomeoneElse Who's "we"?

OSM's position on names is covered in the wiki here - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Name_is_the_name_only .
22018-04-01 19:09:50 UTCjan_olieslagers Thank you for chiming in, critically yet politely.
I must admit that the "we" is a bit of "pluralis majestatis" - it really is my own personal opinion. Yet it is an opinion grown over the years, and over ample discussion.

1) aerodromes should really not be nameless. There hav...
32018-04-01 19:22:02 UTCJKHougaard There already is an access=private tag. It is up to the data user to interpret and display the appropriate tags so that the end user (the pilot in your example) has the correct information.
Frankly I do not agree with your story of a qualified pilot finding a random airstrip in OSM and deciding to ...
42018-04-01 19:28:14 UTCjan_olieslagers @JKHougaard: you are entirely right, we cannot be considered responsible for the interpretation of the data we present. Still, is that a sufficient reason to NOT give this particular field a "name=" tag? There are hundres of little airfields around Europe that are not in any official sourc...
52018-04-01 19:42:34 UTCHjart My opinion is: Mappers inventing names is BAD. Airfields and other objects in OSM should be tagged with verifiable official names only. Anything else will eventually lead to confusion.
Maps used by aviators should display the content of access tags.
62018-04-01 19:48:07 UTCjan_olieslagers @hjart: first of all my apologies for misspelling your id higher up. That said: surely an official name is to be preferred, but if there is none than it is better to do our best than to offer nothing at all. What name is given can be discussed, and edited, asnd changed, and changed again, but no nam...
72018-04-01 19:56:58 UTCHjart I also think it's now time to remove "invented name" from other airstrips. I think you'll have to come up with better cope with nameless airstrips.
No name is not bad and certainly not "the worst there can be".
Not respecting access=private tags etc is worse.
82018-04-01 20:07:25 UTCjan_olieslagers There you are mixing up two points. On the one hand I am glad to agree that tags like "private=*" are very important, and should be respected. On the other hand I insist we cannot be TOO clear; so we should use all means available, and the "name=" is one and a very prominent one....
92018-04-01 20:08:18 UTCjan_olieslagers And what do you mean with "better cope with nameless airstrips"?
102018-04-01 20:11:23 UTCHjart I meant "you'll have to find better ways to cope with nameless airstrips". Inventing names for them is not good and will not prevent cases like the one you gave above.
112018-04-01 20:18:20 UTCHjart I personally think a lot of people will disagree with adding "private" or "public", whatever to names of all aerodromes just to "clear" the way you describe.
122018-04-01 20:19:12 UTCjan_olieslagers Sorry, I really cannot agree. Are you really meaning to say that "name=" should only be tagged if an official source is given? If so, how do you define "official"? For an extreme example, what was the official source for the "name=" in node 2318851468 ? Are you really g...
132018-04-01 20:29:36 UTCHjart Yes, I think that "name=" should be tagged only if the airstrip has an actual official name. I researched this airstrip and found that it's private and doesn't actually have an official name. I think inventing one is wrong.
The node you mention can be verified by going to http://vscs.dk/b...
142018-04-01 20:38:05 UTCjan_olieslagers Again sorry, but you do nothing to convince me. There is nothing official about the source you mention. That this name has been invented by someone else does not make a difference, it is not an official name so it is an invented name - if I follow your reasoning.

But you may find me an official s...
152018-04-01 20:43:22 UTCjan_olieslagers And may I also refer to the pointer by @SomeoneElse at the very beginning of this discussion: I could find nothing there to imply that only "official" names can be used. But the article seems to care little about aerodromes.
162018-04-01 20:46:53 UTCHjart Nothing is being "hushed up" here. You invented this name even though you are not the owner or in any anyway affiliated with this particular airstrip, right? Just like you invented names for a gazillion other airstrips around the map?
Please note that another mapper (apparently with more ...
172018-04-01 20:50:34 UTCjan_olieslagers What has "being the owner" to do here? Has only the owner the right to add a "name=*" tag?
The arguments are becoming more and more remote, there must really be something dark behind it all. Why not call an apple an apple? Why not call an Airstrip in Slagelse an Airstrip in Slag...
182018-04-01 20:51:46 UTCHjart @jan the link given by SomeoneElse says "If something really doesn't have a name, don't add a name to OpenStreetMap"
This airstrip doesn't actually have a name, so don't add one.
192018-04-01 20:57:05 UTCjan_olieslagers You are only saying it does not have an "official" name. Again, a dog is a dog and a train is a train and an Airstrip in Stragelse is an Airstrip in Stragelse. Allow me to insist: what is so very wrong about giving this one airstrip a name, even if it is not offical? Your insistence - agai...
202018-04-01 20:58:27 UTCHjart Another mapper removed the name you invented for this airstrip (because of lack of verifiability) and I've put the noname=yes tag back. Please respect it
212018-04-01 20:58:42 UTCjan_olieslagers (apologies for the typo - s/Stragelse/Slagelse/g)
222018-04-01 20:59:39 UTCjan_olieslagers Sorry, I won't - but I will not enter a reversal war either.
232018-04-01 21:03:48 UTCSomeoneElse @jan_olieslagers Any name for an object must be verifiable by other mappers - see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Verifiability for details. Something that you made up isn't a name, it's just a description.
242018-04-01 21:11:29 UTCjan_olieslagers Thanks again, @SomeoneElse. Can it be verified that an apple is an apple? Can it be verified that an Airstrip in Slagelse is an Airstrip in Slagelse? May an apple be given the name "apple" May ... ??
252018-04-01 23:58:18 UTCHjart @jan, Please see https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/62884/inventing-names-for-essentially-unnamed-private-airstrips
262018-04-07 19:27:26 UTCJJIglesias My Opinion: Any Airstrip to be "legal" needs some kind of approval by the Aeronautical Authorities; and that Authority publish the location of each one of those airstrips, with certain characterists like longines and orientation of the airstrip. Name is NOT mandatory, but lenght, orientati...
272018-04-07 19:43:46 UTCjan_olieslagers Thanks, @JJIglesias. I have resigned to the existence of aerodromes with no name, though it feels to me like "a pub with no beer" :) And I certainly agree that we are NOT producing the AIP or any other official kind of data. However I cannot agree with you that all aerodromes (in the broad...
12018-03-29 20:54:55 UTCndm OpenStreetmap is about what is actually present -- you shouldn't change names that are from on-the-ground surveys.

Plus, you would have to have a licence from YHA to use their copyrighted material on OpenStreetmap.
22018-03-29 21:02:02 UTCndm I suggest you discuss it on the talk-gb mailing list before making further YHA-related edits.
32018-03-31 10:46:37 UTCndrw6 Personally I think ndm's interpretation of project quality standards and copyright laws is overly strict and should not be treated as an official opinion of the osm community. (neither should be mine)

Indeed it is good to discuss larger contributions like this in public, and perhaps get yha invo...
42018-03-31 11:17:58 UTCSomeoneElse As ndm says, the best place to discuss things like this with the wider GB community is https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb . Good luck!
52018-03-31 17:52:57 UTCndm https://www.yha.org.uk/ has "© 2017 YHA (England & Wales)". Like OpenStreetmap has "© OpenStreetMap contributors". If you believe the second is important -- then so is the first.

Anyway, If there's agreement on the mailing list then there's less likelihood of cha...
12018-03-30 08:20:20 UTCSomeoneElse As requested previously in https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1331 please do use meaningful changeset comments. "create changeset" is not a meaningful comment. Also what is the source used here?
12018-03-29 08:05:36 UTCwill_p I didn't know Player Street had reopened to motor vehicles. For avoidance of doubt, please could you confirm that you have visited this location or let me know which source you used to know the access has recently changed. Thanks.
22018-03-30 02:07:09 UTCmusaib ali i made this change reviewing the fact that the access for motor vehicles was open on both ends of player street, so considering this I changed the access for the middle segment of player street to yes, if you have any local information regarding this you can go ahead and change it. Thanks.
32018-03-30 08:13:10 UTCSomeoneElse @musaib ali Please don't make changes like this based on just guesswork or aerial imagery (where you can't see signs at ground level).

Can you also explain _why_ you made this change here? You are making changes in lots of geographically separated areas which suggests that you haven't actually v...
42018-04-18 22:23:49 UTCNakaner-repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 58217008 where the changeset comment is: Revert all changesets by a group of commercial editors everywhere except North and South America. They "fixed" routing "errors" but hided real errors instead of...
12018-03-22 19:27:36 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Please don't add test data to the live OpenStreetMap Server. If you want a test server, perhaps http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-03-22 19:56:31 UTCcgoods-gamut Sorry about that. There's a Hello World code snippet I found on the Web that I ran. Did not realize it was changing things.

Thanks,

Connor
32018-03-22 20:24:28 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks.
I've tried talking to the people behind osmapi at https://github.com/metaodi/osmapi/issues/66 , but I guess your code snippet actually hardcodes the live OSM server?
Whereabouts was the code snippet that you found?
Best Regards,
Andy
42018-03-22 20:27:25 UTCcgoods-gamut It's actually on the wiki.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmapi

In the section 'Full Example'
52018-03-22 20:34:31 UTCSomeoneElse Ha! I never thought about looking there. I'll have a go at changing it.
12018-03-19 20:08:07 UTCBCNorwich Hello and Welcome to OpenStreetMap.
For your data to be acceptable for inclusion in the OSM database it must be verifiable on the ground to other mappers. It doesn't look like your business has a physical presence at this area. Your website does not give an address. Thus your data ought be removed...
22018-03-19 21:23:16 UTCInternational Circus Stardust Entertainment Hi Bernard,
Thank you for your reply.
To tell you the truth, I’m not totally sure how OpenStreetMap works. I thought it was something like Google maps or IOS maps. I was just trying to promote my business.
You are correct that my business does not have any physical presence at the address. ...
32018-03-20 08:35:37 UTCBCNorwich Hello Shaun,
I see and accept from your link that you operate the business from that address. However, this can only be a virtual address, which is what you say.
The problem for OSM is that features ought to be verifiable on the ground. I quote from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practi...
42018-03-20 19:30:18 UTCInternational Circus Stardust Entertainment Hi Bernard,
I live and work from Hastings, on the sunny south coast. I recently deiced to get a registered business address for my company, Kemp House, 152 – 160 City Road, London. The reason I did this was to give my company a more professional appearance.
I only recently came across Open ...
52018-03-22 19:04:22 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
OpenStreetMap isn't a business directory - as Bernard said, it's designed for things that are geographically verifiable. For example, the Moorfields Eye Hospital is verifiable by anyone (there are lots of signs for it) but if you've just got a mailing address in a building on the City Road the...
12018-03-19 11:39:41 UTCSomeoneElse Hello, just wondering what the change was here? You've changed https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/398622386/history from service to unclassified - was that based on local knowledge or survey or something else? It certainly doesn't look like an unclassified road in the imagery.
Best Regards,
Andy\...
22018-03-22 15:15:55 UTCerantr1 Hello Andy,
Thanks for letting me know.
I made this change about a month ago, probably by mistake. I will revert to service highways.
Best regards,
Eran.
12018-03-11 11:28:22 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Ant Ko,
Can you explain the source of the data used here?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-03-18 12:04:59 UTCAnt Ko The source of this data should be my brain, and hopefully, in the Kawthaung Development Committee's plans...
32018-03-18 12:46:33 UTCSomeoneElse How did the information get into your brain? Did you read if from somewhere else? If so, where?
12018-03-14 23:25:16 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
The history of a couple of things here http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=498377008 and http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=522453556 seem to show that there's some sort of edit war going on. Do you have any evidence of the signage on the ground? What the Public Works uses isn't r...
22018-03-15 08:50:19 UTCUAN51 According to the survey I took around Dec 2017/Jan 2018, the following signs were along North Antioch Road (remember, Doyotek and I were arguing about the prefix):
On Kansas City's jurisdiction:
-"N Antioch Rd" signs existed in 29 intersections (including north of Happy Rock Park; majori...
32018-03-17 10:38:48 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks - I've commented on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/56838729 .
12018-03-14 23:23:54 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OSM!
You mention that you "keep having to fix this", and http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=498377008 and http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=522453556 do show that there's some sort of edit war going on here. Do you have any evidence of the signage on the g...
22018-03-15 00:25:36 UTCDoyotek Then how do we handle the name of the road when 1 street sign says just "Antioch", "NE Antioch". then "N Antioch"? The Newer signs all say "NE Antioch" and they are randomly placed along the route.
32018-03-15 00:33:51 UTCSomeoneElse If part isn't obviously one and another part the other, perhaps pick the most common variant? That's what I did with https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/95467361 (just up the road from where I live). There 5 out of 6 signs have one version and 1 another, so I went with the "5 out of 6" nam...
42018-03-15 00:44:17 UTCDoyotek Its not that. Problem is that the city has been slowly replacing the signs back to NE Antioch as needed. Its starting to be randomly put back to the official name.

Problem is that there is also another road that actually is N Antioch.
52018-03-17 10:37:15 UTCSomeoneElse I'd go with the on the ground value, even if it's "wrong" by some official definition. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/56856510 suggests that "N Antioch" is currently the most popular value. If that's the case, I'd go with that version, until more signs are replaced and...
12018-03-16 17:41:44 UTCSomeoneElse There seems to have been a problem with this edit in that it has affected https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/241758144/history which was not touched by wheelmap at all. Where a mapper has explicitly added an "unknown" access value it makes sense to leave it - for example I'll quite often t...
22018-03-16 21:43:25 UTCmarc__marc Hello,

This ae was not a "bug fix only". the wheelmap bug was only the "start point" (and the main "feed") to discover this problem.

For my documentation, you are right. i didnt update it, the current description was the one used at the begging of the German talk....
32018-03-17 10:07:52 UTCSomeoneElse You've updated the link to better describe the edit - thanks for that.
"wheelchair" is a bit different to other access tags in OSM (with other access tags "yes" normally means "a legal right to", with wheelchair it means "physically accessible").
As previous...
12018-02-09 13:29:41 UTCVerdy_p This was done in rawedit (which still offers no way to add edit comments); this added more evident dictinctions in names, between land areas and admin boundaries
22018-03-15 00:10:23 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
What exactly is "Jersey (land mass)"? That looks like a description rather than a name. If you want to have a relation for that, fine - but please don't make up names for things like that. Also, this does look very much like an undiscussed mechanical edit...
Also, this is a ver...
32018-03-15 00:18:12 UTCVerdy_p Raw edit is a set of individual edits on isolated tags. There's no way in it to create separate changesets, they are closed automatically but after long time (only made by the server, not by that editor).
The names for landmasses are not rendered on map, but they do no represent the whole area so y...
42018-03-15 00:20:59 UTCVerdy_p An no this was absolutely not "mechanical edit", they were done individually at very small speed, with raweditor, over a long perdiod of several hours using other editors.
If you know how to force "rawedit" to close its open changeset...
Why did I use rawedit, it's because for ...
52018-03-15 00:28:48 UTCSomeoneElse "Jersey (land mass)" is not a name, it is a description.

Re "RawEdit", you might find https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Level0 more functional.
62018-03-15 01:40:10 UTCVerdy_p Except that rawedit is integrated with other tools that propose to use either it (simple and fast for minor tag changes), or JOSM (too slow for these cases)
The names are consistant witrh other names for Landmass and were used because of confusion of admin boundaries and the fact that soime people ...
72018-03-15 01:41:40 UTCVerdy_p Note: "Jersey" alone would alsop be incorrect ! Jersey is larger than that.
The name is already fully descriptive of the intended use.
It will never cause any problem in searches of boundaries....
82018-03-15 17:50:55 UTCSomeoneElse Hu Verdy_p,
Please don't be so argumentative - I'm trying to help you here!

With regard to names, their use in OSM is well-established - see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Name_is_the_name_only . By those criteria "Jersey (land mass)" is not a name. The actual name for b...
92018-03-15 17:57:28 UTCVerdy_p This method of naming differently has been used everywhere else since the beginning, because there were confusions betwee ndistinct objects (and Nominatim was also confused and did not allow making the distinction between landmasses and admin boundaries, but also because various contributors changed...
102018-03-15 18:01:20 UTCVerdy_p Note: the OSM website (here). Does not allow seeing distinctions easily (the types of objects are NOT specified at all in list of members or list of parent relations).
So confusion is extremely frequent when this OSM site does not make any difference, but just displays the "name" tag, the...
112018-03-15 18:03:58 UTCVerdy_p Remember that these "names" found landmasses are never rendered at all with labels on maps because they are NOT boundaries. They are just used by reference from other objects or selected and found by specific tags.
May be iD and this site should display at least the "note" tag, ...
122018-03-15 18:17:31 UTCSomeoneElse Another well-established principle is that we do not tag for the renderer, or how it appears in a search engine such as nominatim, or how it appears in an editor such as iD, or on this website.
"Jersey (land mass)" is not a name, and shouldn't be assigned the name tag.
Also, yes, I am ...
132018-03-15 18:25:36 UTCVerdy_p So you want to reverse a decision that was taken long time ago by other people (not me) to use distinctive name without even asking them why they chose that convention? And you don't care at all about the confusions that were made (which was why I made this changeset to solve duplicates or incorrect...
142018-03-15 19:43:29 UTCSomeoneElse > So you want to reverse a decision that was taken long time ago by other people (not me) to use distinctive name without even asking them why they chose that convention?
Can you please point to such a "decision"? The best description of how we map names in OSM includes https://wiki.o...
152018-03-15 21:08:21 UTCVerdy_p I've not tagged for the renderer. FULL STOP. I have used existing conventions (sused since long). FULL STOP. I have solved incorrect tagging caused by confusion. Names are accessory but still essential for editors. the iD editor still does not make any distrinction when selecting relations, you hav...
162018-03-15 21:09:06 UTCVerdy_p In summary: I did not use any incorrect tags, I fixed them to remove duplicates or incorrect references between unrelated areas.
172018-03-15 21:18:07 UTCSomeoneElse > In summary: I did not use any incorrect tags
So where (in Jersey or elsewhere) can I go to find the name "Jersey (land mass)" then? Or is it just a "name" that you made up?
182018-03-15 21:19:29 UTCSomeoneElse But the more serious question is: why it's always _you_ that seems to be having these discussions?
What is your theory as to why this happens?
192018-03-15 21:21:13 UTCVerdy_p The incorrect tags (notably using type=boundary and boundary=administrative) or references caused also severe rendering problems for the international borders or some regional borders: they were discontinuous because queries for borders retrieved two unrelated relations, and renderers tend to elimin...
202018-03-16 13:05:19 UTCSomeoneElse It's happening again (see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Verdy_p#Route_relation:_Roles_forward:stop:.3Cnumber.3E_etc._on_page_Relation:route ) so I'll ask the question again:

Why it's always _you_ that seems to be having these discussions?
What is your theory as to why this happen...
212018-03-16 14:09:56 UTCVerdy_p Why is it only you that inists on what is not an issue at all ? Stop this harassment.
222018-03-16 14:20:28 UTCSomeoneElse It's a genuine question, honestly - most people don't have lots of people complaining on their wiki talk pages.
Why do you think it happens to you?
232018-03-16 15:30:20 UTCVerdy_p "lot of people is your interpretation" actually this is very small to the number of thank you I receive directly.
You are just harassing me for sometinh which is absolutely not an issue anywhere and don't want to recognize that I solved really incorrect tagging that caused real problems.\...
242018-03-16 15:38:04 UTCSomeoneElse > "lot of people is your interpretation" actually this is very small

No - most people don't have multiple archives of complaints on their wiki talk page. I'm trying to understand why this is happening to you and if there's anything that can be changed that would avoid it.

> Yo...
252018-03-16 17:30:40 UTCVerdy_p Only because I'm above average users, just means there is a higher chance of friction occuring with just a few (like you do) for things that are in fact not even a problem or just because of personal opinions. Landmasses could even have no name it all (they are never needed for rendering), but since...
262018-03-16 17:41:58 UTCVerdy_p This was documented since long first in Germany https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Relation:land_area
A name attribute is allowed, but the doc never says it is mandatory, its value is completely unspecified and it can be omitted completely. If it is there it is just a helper for contributors bu...
272018-03-16 18:03:58 UTCSomeoneElse On the issue of "land area relations" (the original issue here, but less important than the way that we work together as mappers) the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Relation:land_area page just says "name" - i.e. "add the name of the thing". It does _not_ say &...
282018-03-16 18:09:30 UTCSomeoneElse ... and on the more important issue:

> Only because I'm above average users

By _quantity_ of _wiki_ edits, certainly.
However, looking at your wiki talk page and at http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=90780 there does seem to be a consistent problem. Have you ever r...
292018-03-16 18:11:07 UTCVerdy_p You're inventing interpretations.
Since the begining it has always included accurate disambiguation. These landmasses are ***not*** the countries/regions, it has alwyas been a ***part*** of them.
You're just continuing to fight against what is actually not a problem at all anywhere.
The diusambig...
302018-03-16 18:17:21 UTCVerdy_p for your most recent reply: you continue making personal attacks. and asserting false things about what I do or think.
I replied, you refused and argumented, and you don't want me to argument ? Sorry but you are not trying to find any solution, your going to nowhere.
You retierate your arguments, ...
312018-03-16 18:33:33 UTCSomeoneElse > Many of these landmasses have their own defined geographical name distinct from the admin boundary
There are examples of this - https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/375761 is genuinely named "Mainland" and is part of the Orkney Islands. However the "landmass" names are s...
322018-03-16 18:38:56 UTCSomeoneElse > you continue making personal attacks
What in my comments above constitutes a "personal attack"? The fact that I've linked to your wiki talk page? Throughout I've tried to be positive (e.g. "https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Name_is_the_name_only is how OSM handles name...
332018-03-16 18:52:34 UTCVerdy_p "Map what is on the ground" is not applicable. There's no such tyhing on the ground. So these names can ONLY be descriptive and should be made accurately so that it it is still distinct from what would be really on the ground...
This is a case where any choice (with or without the disambi...
342018-03-16 20:03:59 UTCSomeoneElse I don't understand most of what you're trying to say here, but to be clear, I am simply trying to explain some of the key principles of OSM (in each case linking back to what documentation we have), and am asking questions about why you find yourself in conflict with so many people in OSM so much of...
352018-03-16 20:32:32 UTCVerdy_p When I do make errors, I recognize them immediately, and correct fast. But you've not conveinced me that there was an error, so it is an unfruitful discussion. Nothing wxas decided, but you want absolutely from me that I reply to you that I was worng or made an "error" or that I'm "wr...
362018-03-16 21:22:57 UTCSomeoneElse > But you've not conveinced me that there was an error, so it is an unfruitful discussion.
Unfortunately, that's not how "compromise" works.
Also to be clear it's not just "my opinion against yours" - I've quoted accepted OSM best practice (and linked to the relevant article...
372018-03-17 01:46:36 UTCVerdy_p STOP STOP STOP!
You are saying "You're wrong since the begining", and have given NO proof at all that there was any error or problem.

STOP THIS HARASSMENT WAR ! I absolutely don't have to ackowledge your different opinion, keep your opinion and I keep mine, but NO there has been NO dem...
382018-03-17 02:04:37 UTCVerdy_p that I had effectively corrected bugs, but you insist on something else that is a NON-ISSUE and NOT what I really corrected, pretending that this name has a semantic value, when in fact it has no value except for contributors using the editing tools as a useful hint (because this name has NEVER been...
392018-03-17 02:07:10 UTCVerdy_p And you pretend that I said only "you're wrong" to you, this is an invention you do! You have constantly used only this argument yourself against me. And you've never presented any evidence. I showed you evidences that whhat you want has NEVER been decided and that it contradicts all past ...
12018-03-15 18:05:10 UTCSomeoneElse Oops - you've deleted the weather buoy at lat 0, long 0 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3815077900/history along with the other stuff you deleted at "null island".
Also, what has "iD" to do with anything? It's _JOSM_ that has the "feature" of adding new objects at ...
22018-03-15 19:57:09 UTCNop So both editors have the problem.
32018-03-15 20:01:50 UTCSomeoneElse Can you point to a series of previous examples where it happened with iD? I keep an occasional eye on edits here via whodidit, and I don't remember a systematic problem with iD. The biggest current source of problems are probably people testing osmapi like https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/5...
42018-03-15 21:36:52 UTCNop - Start iD without coordinates
- press "zoom in to edit" and you're there
52018-03-16 12:38:47 UTCSomeoneElse Can you point to a series of previous examples where it happened with iD?
(I've undeleted the missing Pirata buoy node BTW)
12018-03-15 20:08:00 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Please don't add test data to the live OpenStreetMap Server. If you want a test server, perhaps http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you?
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-09-06 18:00:37 UTCFahRadler thats no roundabout!!!
-> a kind of turning loop
22017-09-06 18:52:55 UTCVerdy_p where, I've looked at all of them individually, may be there's some invisible signs that could say the opposite
32017-09-06 18:53:35 UTCVerdy_p Exceptions to this is extremely rare in France.
42017-09-09 09:30:37 UTCFahRadler i´ve been there, that a turning loop
52017-09-09 10:04:30 UTCVerdy_p such comment in not useful if you don't specify "where"
62018-03-15 00:12:59 UTCSomeoneElse @Verdy_p is this another mechanical edit? Maybe if your change was in a smaller geographical area and not a whole country you wouldn't have to ask "where" when someone asks about the validity of an object in it.
12018-03-11 14:36:05 UTCpitscheplatsch Hi Carlos de Gouveia, welcome to OSM.

Please don't add test data to the live OpenStreetMap Server.
If you want a test server, perhaps http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you?

Furthermore, can you revert your changes?
Thanks.
22018-03-13 17:51:18 UTCCarlos de Gouveia I'm sorry, didn't realise what I did. I will delete the data if I can find it. If you have access to it (before I get to find it) please would you revert it? I will use the test server as you suggested. Apologies.
32018-03-13 18:27:52 UTCCarlos de Gouveia Hi, I have no idea how to revert this change set. Will this need to be done via the api? Or is there a procedure I can follower on my browser? Appreciate the assistance. Thanks, Carlos
42018-03-13 20:23:52 UTCSomeoneElse Actually, I deleted it yesterday...
52018-03-14 05:16:11 UTCCarlos de Gouveia 👍
12018-03-06 20:52:29 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OSM!
I'm afraid something looks to have gone very wrong with https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/288800325 etc. - it's merged all of the tags from the individual sections of former railway together, and most of them don't apply to any one individual segment. Compare for example ...
22018-03-06 21:11:31 UTCscrapperuk Hi Andy
I'd be happy for you to correct my error, and apologies for any inconvenience caused.
I guess the learning curve is a little steeper than I first thought
That particular segment is one that I've been heavily involved in physically creating by converting a disused railway into a useable p...
32018-03-07 09:32:23 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks - I'll have a look when I get a chance (probably later on today).
42018-03-13 00:52:19 UTCSomeoneElse OK - that should be done now. I've applied the tags that had been merged into the whole length (foot=permissive, highway=path, horse=permissive, motor_vehicle=no, mtb:scale=1, name=Clowne Branch Line, surface=unpaved) into each section and left the bridges etc. as they originally were. The "l...
12018-03-12 22:10:46 UTCSomeoneElse This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 56766355, 56766813, 56767007, 56770101, 56795529, 56797073, 56797532, 56807682, 56807734, 56824164, 56824410, 56824681, 56824975, 56825248, 56825272, 56825455, 56825547, 56851527, 56851778, 56852074, 56852261, 56852329, 56853406, 56853663, ...
12018-03-12 22:10:46 UTCSomeoneElse This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 57126162 where the changeset comment is: Reverting a trail map in Manitoba
12018-03-12 22:10:46 UTCSomeoneElse This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 57126162 where the changeset comment is: Reverting a trail map in Manitoba
12018-03-12 22:10:45 UTCSomeoneElse This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 57126162 where the changeset comment is: Reverting a trail map in Manitoba
12018-03-12 22:10:45 UTCSomeoneElse This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 57126162 where the changeset comment is: Reverting a trail map in Manitoba
12018-03-12 22:10:45 UTCSomeoneElse This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 57126162 where the changeset comment is: Reverting a trail map in Manitoba
12018-03-12 22:10:44 UTCSomeoneElse This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 57126162 where the changeset comment is: Reverting a trail map in Manitoba
12018-03-12 22:10:44 UTCSomeoneElse This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 57126162 where the changeset comment is: Reverting a trail map in Manitoba
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12018-03-11 21:53:00 UTCSomeoneElse Hello GeoBeau,
Please don't add imaginary data to OpenStreetMap. Can you please explain what you're trying to do - then people might be able to help.
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-03-12 03:15:57 UTCGeoBeau Hey all.
Some comments are telling me that OSM is not for making this type of map :( ...and some are trying to help.... ??? I just needed a free program for a one time trail map. Realized that OSMhad limitations but the export output was in .pdf . Therefor after I worked around the limitations an...
32018-03-12 19:23:05 UTCViajero Perdido You left behind a mess.
Do you feel any sense of obligation to clean it up? Because someone will have to.
42018-03-12 22:02:17 UTCSomeoneElse If you want to "just create a one-off map" then something like https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/ is probably your best option.
I'll have a go at tidying the test data here, by the way.
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12018-03-09 14:15:38 UTCGlenn Plas What are you doing here ? You seem to be totally missing the point of Openstreetmap.

You're going to have to delete a lot here although it's doubtful you're going succeed in doing this on your own. It's even hard to explain why there are so many wrongs here. OSM is not meant to be used to c...
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12018-03-12 20:19:50 UTCSomeoneElse Hello - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/548338260 seems to be a square area of water in the middle of the Atlantic. Is it in the wrong place, or did something else go wrong?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-03-09 12:30:43 UTCSomeoneElse "Hello,
Please don't add test data to the live OpenStreetMap Server. If you want a test server, perhaps http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-03-07 08:36:47 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks. I've deleted the rest of the recent doodles.
22018-03-07 08:44:44 UTCSomeoneElse Actually, one more thing - if you spot any more of these please drop a mail to data@osmfoundation.org (even if you've already deleted them).
12018-03-06 13:26:18 UTCSomeoneElse Hello ألبرشت شونكا,

Please use meaningful changeset comments for your changes - it helps everyone else understand the reasoning behind and the source for the changes.

In this case I'd agree that an English language name doesn't make sense for the "name" tag here, but can y...
22018-03-06 13:31:00 UTCألبرشت شونكه Yes, often the communication is a problem in OSM.

Maybe we should made an arrangement that both tags are used, e.g. "هەولێر / أربيل"

What is your opinion for a solution?

With best regards
32018-03-06 13:35:34 UTCSomeoneElse That approach is certainly used in some places in OSM when there isn't an obvious "most popular" value for that name. Given the "to and fro" edits that the name has seen "هەولێر / أربيل" is probably better than most of the orther alternatives.
12018-03-06 11:15:40 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Please don't add test data to the live OpenStreetMap Server. If you want a test server, perhaps https://master.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-03-03 18:56:58 UTCSomeoneElse (for info for anyone looking at this changeset)

It's currently being discussed - see https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1792 and https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=686927#p686927 . If there's no clear answer there about why the previous status quo was wrong it'll get revert...
12018-03-03 12:56:36 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
I think that something's gone a bit wrong with https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4417115790/history here. Your change changed the name to "virus" rather than "Song Tan" or some variation. What I suspect happened was that MAPS.ME submitted a change based on out-of-date ...
12018-03-03 09:03:04 UTCpitscheplatsch Hi Askdl0990, welcome to OSM.

I think you should not remove such descriptions. For me this looks some kind of #vandalism

More details about your changes: http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=56834619
22018-03-03 11:31:03 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Can you explain how you know that the service road https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/456788673/history that you've deleted no longer exists?
Best Regards,
Andy
32018-03-03 11:31:57 UTCSomeoneElse こんにちは、
あなたが削除したサービス道路https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/456788673/historyがもう存在しないことをどのように知っているのか説明できますか?
宜しくお願いします、
アンディ
12018-02-25 05:30:10 UTCchachafish I noticed you have imported hundreds, maybe thousands of buildings around the area of West 25th Avenue and Sheridan Boulevard, Denver, Colorado. These buildings do not represent what is on the ground. Perhaps you made this import by mistake? Did you contact local mappers for a community buy-in? Did...
22018-02-25 21:51:03 UTCdominique hoavonon Bonjour, merci pour les retours, au fait je ne suis pas un débutant dans OpenStreetMap. Je ne sais pas ce qui s'est passé, souvent je test les imageries pour voir leur netteté, mais je vais ce qui s'est passé sur ces derniers modifications, si c'est décalage ou si ...
32018-02-26 03:12:13 UTCchachafish Hello, thank you for your reply. While you are trying to decide what went wrong with your import, will you please remove all of the thousands of buildings you have added to the Denver area?
42018-02-26 19:17:12 UTCdominique hoavonon Bonjour, pas besoin de suprimer les batiments je vais juste les modifiés conformement à l'imagerie Bing. Vous pouvez m'aidez à la modification si vous avez un peu de temps. Merci
52018-02-27 08:59:45 UTCSomeoneElse Juste pour être clair, vous avez ajouté des bâtiments à Denver (aux États-Unis) pour https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1318.
12018-02-25 11:45:07 UTCSomeoneElse Just for info, I've commented on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/56470373 (the previous change). Erbil's been the subject of "edit wars" over language as you can see at http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=599019138 with most common version being CKB (Central Kurdish).
Best R...
22018-02-25 14:23:27 UTCDave Stanley I was not aware of the edit wars over this. I was there last month and I know people from that region. From what I have seen, Erbil is the common spelling, though I accept it is often transliterated as Arbil. Wikivoyage has just changed their page from Arbil to Erbil to align with Wikipedia. Fro...
32018-02-25 15:15:50 UTCSomeoneElse Erbil's the English name, but what is the most commonly used on-the-ground name? Is it "هەولێر" (central Kurdish), "أربيل" (Arabic) or something else?

If you were there last month I suspect that you have more up to date knowledge about what's actually called what t...
42018-02-25 16:00:20 UTCDave Stanley The vast majority of what I saw was Erbil. It is worth having a look at the talk page for Erbil at Wikipedia as there is a fair discussion there. I do not read Arabic or Kurdish, so I cannot comment on those.
52018-02-25 16:06:24 UTCSomeoneElse Wikipedia just says "Today, Erbil is both multi-ethnic and multi-religious" which isn't tremendously helpful :)

> I do not read Arabic or Kurdish, so I cannot comment on those.
Never mind - worth a try!
12018-02-25 12:06:55 UTCSimonPoole Unilaterally changing borders and names is considered bad practice, please discuss before changing.
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22018-02-25 13:52:30 UTCSomeoneElse_Revert This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 56661596 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some politically motivated edits around Somalia
32018-02-25 15:25:00 UTCTedros How is this political motivated edit? When in Somalia the official language is Somali? Why does state and cities have to bear Arabic names? It is like giving American cities German names? Really strange!!
42018-02-25 15:55:30 UTCSomeoneElse @Tedros That's the changeset comment of the reverting changeset. Among the things that you deleted was the disputed area of Somaliland: http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=3586169 . The change to http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=424317039 was odder - you removed the name tag altog...
12018-02-25 12:01:44 UTCSimonPoole Unilaterally changing borders and names is considered bad practice, please discuss before changing.
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22018-02-25 13:04:23 UTCwambacher And removing existential tags from boundaries (e.g. boundary=administrative) is really, really wrong.

btw: editing boundaries using iD is a high risk of damage. use json.
32018-02-25 13:05:46 UTCwambacher sorry: Use JOSM, not iD
42018-02-25 13:18:26 UTCSomeoneElse @wambacher In this case I'm not sure that that's a good idea :)
52018-02-25 13:52:38 UTCSomeoneElse_Revert This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 56661596 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some politically motivated edits around Somalia
12018-02-25 12:01:22 UTCSimonPoole Unilaterally changing borders and names is considered bad practice, please discuss before changing.
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22018-02-25 12:40:11 UTCTedros Hi Simon,

This is not an actual border but error it should be administrative border. However I understand your reply. Where should I report this next time?

Thanks.
Tedros
32018-02-25 13:07:20 UTCSomeoneElse What has "Article 2 (4) of the Charter..." to do with OpenStreetMap?
Note that the OSMF has a a policy on disputed territories - see https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesInformation.pdf for that.
42018-02-25 13:52:37 UTCSomeoneElse_Revert This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 56661596 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some politically motivated edits around Somalia
12018-02-25 11:39:11 UTCSomeoneElse Hello (and welcome to OpenStreetMap!) - I'm trying to understand the reason for the name change here - as you can see from http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=599019138 the "name" tag for this place has been changed in OSM many times. Generally the "name" tag is used for a ...
12018-02-21 21:45:03 UTCSomeoneElse Any idea what https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4887456774/history should actually be tagged as?
22018-02-21 23:39:08 UTCJohnwhelan If you do a Crtl<H> in JOSM it will give you the history. I changed _id to id.

If you contact the first mapper who added it they maybe able to give more details.

John
12018-02-19 21:21:50 UTCSomeoneElse Do you have any source for the "Gulf of Andany"? Normally "survey" would be a perfectly valid source, but in this case I suspect it's highly unlikely that there is a sign with "Gulf of Andany" on it in the middle of the sea.
Please provide details of the source that...
22018-02-19 21:55:57 UTCSomeoneElse Actually scratch that - it's obvious from your other recent changes that you have made.
12018-02-11 12:54:21 UTCSomeoneElse What evidence do you have for the use of cyrillic within Kosovo? As Ifar as I can tell from outside even within Serbia cyrillic use isn't 100% (see for example https://www.b92.net/ ). The Kosovo government's website http://kryeministri-ks.net/?page=3,1 doesn't use it, and the Serbian government us...
22018-02-11 15:19:05 UTCVigilante Kosovo (Albanian: Kosova/Kosovë; Serbian: Косово]) is a disputed territory and partially recognised state[11][12] in Southeastern Europe that declared independence from Serbia in February 2008.
Kosovo's constitution says official are both: albanian and serbian. If serbian i using two alp...
32018-02-18 10:52:39 UTCSomeoneElse I asked for examples of use of cyrillic within Kosovo and you didn't provide any.
What script the Serbian OSM community is using is irrelevant; also note that https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2088990 has "name:sr=Косово и Метохија" it's perfectly possible to create ...
42018-02-18 18:56:23 UTCVigilante Open thread about it in the forum, and it will be discussed.
52018-02-18 20:08:07 UTCSomeoneElse Which forum do you mean?

Here is a perfectly reasonable place to ask questions.
62018-02-18 20:19:44 UTCVigilante Yap, but, there is no notification. I should search edit after edit. Personal message is ok?
72018-02-18 20:22:31 UTCSomeoneElse You should get an email notification for every message here - not sure why that's not working. Maybe go to osm.org and check the addtess there?
82018-02-18 20:29:40 UTCVigilante Empty mailbox... Nothing.
I will change with other mail tommorow.
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This is my sugestion about it.
http://myprintscreen.com/s/1518985600.04726712.png
92018-02-20 20:41:23 UTCMarc Konjuhi Google is not OSM, and in addition to that, in the territory of Kosovo, Serbian is used in latin form, also in new laws, street signs etc. OSM works with the reality on the ground, and the reality on the ground is that there´s the rRepublic of Kosovo with the administration in Prishtina, and t...
12018-02-18 12:31:13 UTCSomeoneElse Hello shqiperietnike,
Here you've changed the "name" of tag of http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=448739405 , a Serb-majority place in Kosovo. Please don't try and enforce your language on other map users. Back in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37745579 I wrote "Ле...
22018-02-18 12:32:01 UTCSomeoneElse (përkthim automatik)
Përshëndetje shqiperietnike,
Këtu ju keni ndryshuar "emrin" e tagut të http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=448739405, një vend me shumicë serbe në Kosovë. Ju lutemi mos provoni dhe zbatoni gjuhën tuaj në p&e...
12018-02-18 11:38:39 UTCSomeoneElse The name was reverted back to "pre-edit war version". See http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=2088990 , and specifically http://osm.org/browse/changeset/56450586 which just changed the name without useful comment.
12018-02-17 11:32:08 UTCSomeoneElse Hello siffash and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
Unfortunately we can't use wikipedia as a source for OpenStreetMap as the licences aren't compatible. Can you find a source for this name somewhere elsewhere that has a compatible licence?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-02-17 14:00:28 UTCsiffash Hi Andy, thank you for your tip! Will keep it in mind.
32018-02-17 14:03:30 UTCSomeoneElse No problem. Any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask!
12018-02-16 23:42:03 UTCSomeoneElse The explanation behind the country names used here can be found at the answer that I gave to the help question https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/53812/contested-border-sahrawi-morocco-decision-to-display .

Essentially OSM has its own rules for "what constitutes a country" (and in...
12018-02-15 22:47:27 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
As you can see from the orange line around this change on the map at the right when you view the changeset on the OpenStreetMap website, it overlaps with the Atlantic because some data was accidentally added there.
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-02-14 00:00:19 UTCSomeoneElse Hello - I think something went a bit wrong. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5402631563/history is in the middle of the sea?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-02-14 10:35:07 UTCIsmaeldiarria Thank you Andy Else for the correction.

Regards.
Abdoulaye
12018-02-13 23:58:55 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Please don't add test data to the live OpenStreetMap Server. If you want a test server, perhaps https://master.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-02-13 23:58:16 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Please don't add test data to the live OpenStreetMap Server. If you want a test server, perhaps https://master.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-02-13 20:22:13 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
You've created https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5410611721 as a tourist attraction, but it's actually already mapped. Also, please do reply when people have tried to contact you - you can see a list at http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=7603634 . If you don't peop...
22018-02-13 22:35:51 UTCLululal2210 Bonjour,
Je vous prie de m'excuser pour les localisations que j'ai ajoutées, je n'avais pas compris qu'elles étaient publiques.
Je n'ajouterai plus rien à partir de maintenant et me contenterai d'utiliser les localisations existantes.
Bien cordialement,
Ludivine
12018-02-13 20:20:21 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5406090521 is surely not a "tourist attraction"?
Best Regards, Andy
12018-02-10 05:37:30 UTCmaxerickson Smaller bounding boxes please.
22018-02-10 16:26:21 UTCSomeoneElse You've added a fixme to https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4549740520 "Name is "second something" but what?". The answer to the question "something small enough to be carried into a shop and valuable enough to be worth doing so" - but that's pretty much the definition ...
32018-02-10 16:27:52 UTCSomeoneElse Oops - my mistake. It was me that added the fixme, but I've actually been there since and not updated the map. Sorry for the noise!
12018-02-08 11:54:30 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Please don't add test data to the live OpenStreetMap Server. If you want a test server, perhaps https://master.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-02-05 10:18:20 UTCSomeoneElse Hello again,
You've been warned before about adding unlikely data to OSM - I somehow doubt that https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5381100564 is really an "aerialway=station". Please only add tags that actually make sense.
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend (on behalf of OSM's Data Working Gr...
12018-02-04 21:30:29 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Please use more descriptive changeset comments rather than just "Fixing" - that doesn't really help other mappers to understand that changes that you are making here.
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-01-30 10:11:58 UTCClaudius Henrichs Hi,

It seems with this changeset you accidentally added a few very long untagged ways that encompass the whole globe. I removed those four in these two changesets:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/55888507
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/55888571
Would be good if you could revie...
22018-01-30 10:23:44 UTCSomeoneElse Also, it'd be really useful if you could use meaningful changeset comments that explain the changes that you're making. "#hotosm-task-502 #OSMBD #BHOOT #MissingMaps #Mapillary #BOIL #Pathao" doesn't mean anything at all - it's just a meaningless string of letters.
12018-01-19 02:50:46 UTCQwertii Did you verify this data? Some of it seems to be incorrect.
22018-01-21 03:02:30 UTCCloCkWeRX That... should probably be reverted. Orrong Road as 60? Maybe, but the rest?
32018-01-21 04:14:09 UTCQwertii This user seems to enter a lot of incorrect data using streetcomplete and doesn't reply to comments.
42018-01-25 22:46:19 UTCtriducsuz Hello to all,
I will only respond to this matter out of all the alleged "issues" being flagged. I am new to this and only an occasional user. Not good at this and I was trying to learn it and add valued input.
If you are flagging my inputs as issues, then I suppose you must have better ...
52018-01-30 10:18:57 UTCSomeoneElse Hi triducsuz - thanks for your reply. If you're using StreetComplete presumably you can say "yes, I've been to Lansdowne Road (just to pick an example), and the speed limit really is 60 all the way along it"? Or did you perhaps make a mistake? It's useful to fill in tags such as surface...
12018-01-28 11:11:53 UTCSomeoneElse Hello unknownPurger,
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5260275/history is mapped as a relation with just one outer way. Is there a reason why it's mapped as a relation rather than a way? Is there perhaps another way to be added to it?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-01-28 11:09:41 UTCSomeoneElse Hello unknownPurger,
You've removed the "name" from
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4422767/history but left the "ref" (which looks pretty unlikely for a ref - it looks more like a description).
What actually is the name and the ref here?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-01-27 14:42:13 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
can you explain what https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5358438540#map=19/13.49525/2.09384 is and what the tag means please? It's not really clear.
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-01-27 14:42:25 UTCSomeoneElse Bonjour,
pouvez-vous expliquer ce que https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5358438540#map=19/13.49525/2.09384 est et ce que le tag signifie s'il vous plaît? Ce n'est pas vraiment clair.
Meilleures salutations,
Andy
12018-01-27 14:40:42 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Can you explain what the tags on https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5358827724 mean and what the source is?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-01-27 14:40:56 UTCSomeoneElse Bonjour,
Pouvez-vous expliquer ce que les tags sur https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5358827724 signifient et quelle est la source?
Meilleures salutations,
Andy
12017-12-16 09:12:44 UTCint_ua What exactly is "Kaart Ground Survey" and why are you adding POIs with this horrible spelling? At least in some case these POIs duplicated already existing ones with proper names.
22017-12-16 18:43:02 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo Я думаю це копіпаст з Гугл стрит в 'ю а бо з напряму з гугл мапи
Відправити у смітни к буде саме вірно
32017-12-22 13:53:03 UTCCorban8 The ground survey is images obtained from the area. I tried to do the best I could with the spelling from the imagery I had to go off of. If it is incorrect then please feel free to make the proper corrections. I apologize for any large mistakes and would appreciate any useful feedback on proper spe...
42017-12-22 16:14:04 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo for you the languages with the Cyrillic alphabet are alien. You have made mistakes in the letters. I would advise to study the letters Cyrillic, or to map only objects in Latin letters.

Also, only the first letter of the first word is written in bold. If the name contains several words then there...
52017-12-23 12:58:35 UTCint_ua Can you please provide the image used for adding https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4872757829 ? I've been there several times and don't remember anything similar, here is the current state https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/T010C_SjnKEuGSKRD6IUNA
In other words, can you prove that these edits are no...
62018-01-26 10:40:30 UTCSomeoneElse Hi Corban8,
As suggested, would it be possible to cross-reference your edits here with Mapillary traces, and perhaps make your photographs available (with the date that they were taken) so that local mappers can compare?
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group.
72018-02-01 16:29:26 UTCgarylancelot Andy,

I am a member of Kaart and am working directly with Corban on this project. We traveled to the Ukraine in hopes to add beneficial contributions to the map in that area. As part of our process, we filmed the area using one second time-lapse footage from three different angles. I will provide...
12018-01-25 00:25:45 UTCSomeoneElse Belated thanks here for trying to add a bit of neutrality to the dispute here!
22018-01-29 06:14:13 UTCkeithonearth Thanks for the positive feedback! :-)
12018-01-25 00:00:15 UTCSomeoneElse Hello MembersOnly,
Can you explain this edit please? It doesn't make a lot of sense. Also what is the source?
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend
12018-01-24 17:19:15 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Some of the tags used on https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/144705720 here (sepecifically "building:basement=YES" seem odd. Can you explain why you're using "YES" in uppercase here?
Also "building:basement" as a tag isn't used elsewhere in OSM - there are other...
22018-02-08 10:13:31 UTCGeoThings Andy:
Thanks for your remind! It's our fault to use uppercase in this building, would change it soon.
Also, since we already have discussion with other mappers, tag "building:basement" is the proper way to mark a building having basement
Best Regards,
GeoThings
12018-01-23 23:36:55 UTCSomeoneElse Hello lethanhduc11 and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
Among the things you've added here are a "pokemon go" tomb and a Vietnamese named bank. Do these things really exist?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-01-17 22:29:12 UTCSomeoneElse Hi - I'm guessing that https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/553075716#map=17/53.13572/-1.29515 is a golf hole/fairway/whatever rather than woodland?
22018-01-18 13:35:26 UTCSK53 Yes, rather obviously!
12018-01-15 10:09:22 UTCSomeoneElse I'm guessing that the shoe shop https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276871620/history isn't inside a phone box - presumably there's a phone box one side or other of the shop?
22018-01-15 11:23:41 UTCfitzsimons It's too long ago to remember much about this edit. The phone box is the one next to the postboxes at the DO. I can't see a shoe shop inside it. Are you seeing something I'm not?
32018-01-17 21:49:08 UTCSomeoneElse I was looking at https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276871620 which has tags "shop=shoes" and "booth=KX100" on it. Maybe http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=276871620 shows the change clearer?
42018-01-17 22:22:54 UTCfitzsimons Well spotted. I see what you mean. Hopefully all sorted now.
12018-01-17 21:06:53 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
Just checking - has the name of the lake officially changed now? Someone added a note last July saying "The Community Advisory Committee recommended changing the name of the lake to Bde Maka Ska, but until the name is legally changed we should keep the name...
22018-01-17 21:09:08 UTCmbforr It has been approved by Hennepin County:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Calhoun
32018-01-17 21:14:38 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks - although that says "The change needs final approval at state and federal level in order to go into effect" presumably the change at county level is good enough for OSM?
12018-01-17 10:01:25 UTCSomeoneElse Just checking - the rail construction up to but not including https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/319607231 is now marked as complete? Should the bridge be complete too?
12018-01-15 15:10:13 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
You've added an "area" unclassified road at the magic roundabout https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7462227 - I don't think that that actually exists does it?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-01-15 15:11:58 UTCSomeoneElse Oops - my mistake - you didn't add it, someone else did!
32018-01-15 18:12:31 UTCmikkolukas I just added more details. I believe the attempt is to show the area occupied by actual road.
Proposals for solutions to these kind of situations are made but none are ratified yet.
42018-01-15 18:14:36 UTCmikkolukas The area could be marked as highway=primary (and split to secondary/tertiary where appropriate)
52018-01-15 18:29:27 UTCSomeoneElse Yes, it's more of an "area:highway=blah" rather than anything else I think. That's usually the preferred way of mapping "road areas".
12018-01-15 15:15:14 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Whilst trying to work out what had happened to the Magic I noticed "ref=(45)" on https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2235672/history - is that a legit ref (in a "leading to NCN 45" kind of way?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-01-15 16:43:05 UTCRichard Pretty much - NCN 45 was originally 'braided' through Swindon with two possible routes; Sustrans has demoted one of them to a bracketed link route (as it has done in several places).
12018-01-15 15:12:21 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
You've added an "area" unclassified road at the magic roundabout https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7462227 - I don't think that that actually exists does it?
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-01-15 13:11:55 UTCSomeoneElse Is adding spaces to opening hours (as in https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/464539974/history ) really required?
22018-01-15 13:33:52 UTCparukhin No, not really. But it make opening hours more comfortable for human reading. It's result of JOSM validator opening_hours "prettifying" options. (Adding spaces after ";" deleting after "," capitalization first symbols (mo-fr) etc.
12018-01-15 10:04:46 UTCSomeoneElse I'm guessing that https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/585425702 shouldn't be an amenity=telephone any more?
12018-01-12 16:24:50 UTCSomeoneElse Hello BlinkingNora,
Are you sure that https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/219187602/history is commercial? It doesn't look it on the imagery.
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-01-12 16:26:12 UTCBlinkingNora Hello Andy, yes the imagery is rather outdated as a lot of shops and other retailers have opened up right near the Body Shop down the road. :)
32018-01-12 16:34:12 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks! Are there still houses at the western end? If so you could split it in two and have residential at once side and commercial at the other.
42018-01-12 16:35:55 UTCBlinkingNora Hmmm, not sure of the specific details. I'll be visiting next week so will be sure to take some photos to make edits when I'm next back on my PC. (Not sure what OSM editor is available on Android)
52018-01-12 16:38:52 UTCSomeoneElse I've heard people recommend https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vespucci as an Android editor, but not used it myself.
62018-01-12 16:39:31 UTCBlinkingNora My thanks! I'll be sure to check it out sometime :D
12018-01-10 10:27:38 UTCdaveemtb Hi, the path you marked as closed from Penally to the beach is (I believe) a public footpath that crosses a rifle range, and is temporarily closed when the path is in use. Your edit suggests it is permanently closed. Do you happen to know which is the case please? Thanks!
22018-01-10 10:27:55 UTCdaveemtb when the rifle range is in use, I mean!
32018-01-10 11:48:50 UTCSomeoneElse I'm guessing you mean http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/102403267/history ? That runs through the golf course, not the rifle range. The signage (back in November 2016) did suggest permanent closure rather than "when the bullets are flying", but things maye have changed since then.
At t...
42018-01-11 15:31:14 UTCdaveemtb The County Council had confirmed by email that the footpath from Penally level crossing, past the firing range, across the golf course to the beach is currently open and passable, and isn't closed during use of the firing range. I'll mark it as open.
52018-01-11 15:32:18 UTCdaveemtb Oh, and there was a problem with erosion following storms in 2014, which has now been addressed, perhaps that was the cause of the closed notice?
12018-01-09 09:24:22 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Could you explain what the source is here? "source=investigation" doesn't really explain anything...
Best Regards,
Andy
12018-01-06 18:01:54 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Just wondered about the "embankment=yes" tag on the River Clyst http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/285944892 . Is it "on an embankment" or does it "have embankments either side of it"? I'm currently trying to render the "embankment" tag for waterways. ...
12018-01-04 13:17:44 UTCSomeoneElse Hello, you've change the name on node 232172609 as can be seen by http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=232172609 . Can you explain the reason for the change?
22018-01-04 13:21:02 UTCSomeoneElse Oh - and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
(I hadn't spotted that it was your first edit).
32018-01-05 08:33:24 UTCParrotias Hello, According to the United Nation and international recognition, name of this place is Zangilan not Kovsakan.
42018-01-05 10:40:12 UTCSomeoneElse It's actually not particularly relevant what the United Nations think. See this OSMF policy document for information: https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesInformation.pdf "The OpenStreetMap community operates under the “on the ground” principle, recording...
52018-01-12 22:42:16 UTCSomeoneElse_Revert This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 55394689 where the changeset comment is: Revert implausible changes in Nagorno Karabakh. Attempt to contact the user failed.
12018-01-04 11:21:01 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Just wondered if https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/316865419/history etc. was still "landuse=railway" if the Bevercotes branch is no longer in use?
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-01-04 12:03:41 UTCLegolash2oLiam Sorry! I believe I made a mistake.

I've hopefully fixed. I am adding it's speed limits, restrictions, etc...
32018-01-04 12:54:26 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks. What's the licence for the NESA data?
Best Regards,
Andy
42018-01-04 13:02:29 UTCLegolash2oLiam There are downloadable PDFs on the link below.

https://www.networkrail.co.uk/industry-commercial-partners/information-operating-companies/national-electronic-sectional-appendix/

Because NR are publicly funded are required to be open on most things. You can ask for an account and you should hav...
52018-01-04 13:05:32 UTCLegolash2oLiam An example is the just the London North Eastern from the Network Rail site. It's 1186 pages but contains exactly the same information on the on-line version.


http://archive.nr.co.uk/browse%20documents/sectional%20appendix/sectional%20appendix%20full%20pdf%20copies/london%20north%20eastern%20sec...
62018-01-04 13:15:12 UTCSomeoneElse Unfortunately I don't think that "are publicly funded are required to be open on most things" will be good enough. Also, https://www.networkrail.co.uk/terms-and-conditions/ seems to explicitly prohibit use here.
What I'd suggest is that you contact them and obtain an explicit waiver or s...
72018-01-04 13:37:24 UTCLegolash2oLiam Yeah I knew that quote could back fire. I remember reading on the Network Rail website something similar. They don't however release information on equipment location (in case of theft). Hence why I had to do a FOI request.

Which part of the text are you referring to when you say "explicitly...
82018-01-04 15:19:52 UTCSomeoneElse I said "explicitly prohibits" because the Ts and Cs of the website talked about "personal and noncommercial use", which wouldn't be good enough for OSM. Now obviously exactly which data that applies to is a different question, but you've already asked them now, which is great :)...
92018-01-12 09:35:22 UTCLegolash2oLiam Just putting this out there. I got a response back from Network Rail saying it's fine as long as we source the information.

I've sent an exact quote to SomeoneElse just in case.
12018-01-04 15:17:02 UTCSomeoneElse Just for info, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions#Turkey suggests that foot=yes is the default on trunk roads in Turkey. If you've got an app that doesn't work without that tag, you probably need to fix the app.
12018-01-04 11:24:33 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
What was broken here? I'm not suggesting that something wasn't, just asking what it was so that the problem doesn't happen again :)
Best Regards,
Andy
22018-01-04 11:34:51 UTCmboeringa Hi Andy, the Clipstone forest multipolygon had one inner that touched the outer over a considerable length. This is technically not allowed (and certainly not in international Simple Features GIS standard), and I am actually surprised it rendered at all and PostGIS / osm2pgsql managed to create some...
32018-01-04 11:56:01 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks. What I've done elsewhere (but not yet here) for this sort of problem is to create a larger "landuse=forest" or "landuse=forestry" area, usually with a name, and smaller natural=wood areas within, usually with leaf_type and other info. Around here what is the "fores...
42018-01-06 17:11:55 UTCSK53 Hmm, OSM Multipolygons do not have to obey the GIS Standards & I believe explicitly do not. Dont have all refs to hand, but https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Relation:multipolygon#Touching_inner_rings is a start
52018-01-06 18:29:54 UTCmboeringa Yes, I know, but ultimately, if you do want the data to display in the "Standard" style, you will unavoidably need to consider this to some extent: osm2pgsql fills the PostGIS render database of openstreetmap-carto, and that database essentially needs Simple Features, as that is what PostG...
62018-01-06 18:34:51 UTCmboeringa As I wrote before, I am actually still surprised the original multipolygon relation rendered at all in the Standard layer...
12018-01-04 11:32:07 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
I've changed Dog and Duck from an "amenity=pub" with a name of "... (closed)" to a "disused:amenity=pub" based on the change here - that should avoid people accidentally going to it thinking that it is still a pub!
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-12-29 11:33:49 UTCSomeoneElse Hi Steve,
Just wondering about the leisure=park tag on here - I'm not convinced that it really is a "leisure=park" in the laid-out-parkland sense that's described at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=park . I'll admit it's a few years since I've been here, but I'd be surpri...
22017-12-30 00:32:18 UTCstevea It's a good question, Andy, and it's nice to text with you in near real-time (I am a fan of your edits, you are dedicated!).

What you are asking is at an edge of history in OSM as a project: in this part of California circa 2008-2010, this is how large parks were imported into this part of Calif...
12017-12-28 19:19:15 UTCSomeoneElse Hello BayMapper,
I notice you've added back the "leisure=park" tag to MacKerricher State Park http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7603526/history .
It's a while since I've been there, but I'm pretty sure really not a "park" in the "leisure=park" sense (for info see ...
22017-12-28 20:59:56 UTCBayMapper Hello. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. Feel free to change the tag to MacKerricher if you like. I already made an agreement with another mapper to not edit that park any more and I definitely do not want to deal with that guy again.

And I am trying to get in the habit of making more ...
32017-12-29 11:24:41 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks - I've changed it to a boundary=protected_area (though national_park also seems to be used for state parks round here too). One more question - what about Mount Diablo State Park https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/187121 ? That always struck me as being similar - an area of countryside s...
42017-12-30 22:37:01 UTCBayMapper I've thought about this too. There does not really seem to be any one way of tagging these sort of parks that 100% matches their description. Some choose to tag it as a national park, or a nature preserve, or as a regular park with national park or protected area boundary. To me it seems more or les...
12017-12-28 18:15:53 UTCSomeoneElse Hi - just wondered about https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4943307720 - is it a highway=crossing or an amenity=bicycle_parking? I'm guessing it can't be both (and it's a couple of years since I visited, so I can't help as to which, unfortunately).
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-12-28 22:02:17 UTCMacLondon Thanks Andy. I've corrected the error.
Regards,
Mac
12017-12-27 12:44:51 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Just to let you know, OSM's Data Working Group got a complaint about the duplication in this area (which you may also have seen mentioned in the talk-us post at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2017-December/018216.html ), so thank you for tiding up some of the problems here...
12017-12-27 12:43:37 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Just to let you know, OSM's Data Working Group got a complaint about the duplication in this area (which you may also have seen mentioned in the talk-us post at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2017-December/018216.html ), so thank you for tiding up some of the problems here...
22017-12-29 07:24:41 UTCpaulmach Thank you. I made the edit because it came up on OSM Inspector. I don't usually edit land use, but can see it needs some attention.
12017-12-25 01:23:15 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
I'm guessing that "embarkment_type" on https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/534838009 should perhaps be "embankment_type"?
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-12-25 15:00:37 UTCParamida Hello,
Yes, thanks for pointing that out. Error has been corrected. Changed from "embarkment_type" to "embankment_type". Greetings
12017-11-08 10:23:01 UTCSomeoneElse What actually is http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/768300036 ? The tags on there don't seem to make a lot of sense. Maybe one of them was added by mistake (7 years ago!) - normally what I'd do with those is try and contact the original mapper to find out what it actually is.
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-12-23 22:36:02 UTCSomeoneElse Any news on the best tagging for Crumhenge?
32017-12-23 22:43:36 UTCnyuriks http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/4951473#map=14/39.9009/-75.3555 -- hasn't responded.
12017-12-23 22:12:17 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Ant Ko,
If http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/394338259/history is not an airport any more it should not be tagged as an airport in OSM.
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group.
12017-12-12 19:03:21 UTCSomeoneElse Hello willB0T and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
Generally speaking, you might find it easier to use a more gradual approach when changing large things such as residential areas (even if they quite a bit wrong). It makes it easier to fix just a corner of a problem, and still have a valid residential ar...
22017-12-23 22:01:51 UTCSomeoneElse Hello willB0T,
I see the residential landuse for Newport hasn't reappeared yet. Do you need any help?
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-12-23 21:10:23 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Miller Liu,
Can you explain why you've repeatedly deleted the tree at https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5290770860/history ? Someone added it 6 days ago, you deleted it, then someone restored it and you deleted it again.
Also, a number of other mappers have been trying to get in touch with...
22017-12-23 21:11:11 UTCSomeoneElse 你好,米勒劉,
你能解釋一下為什麼你一再刪除了這個樹:https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5290770860/history? 有人在6天前添加它,你刪除了它,然後有人恢復它,你又刪除了它。
此外,還有其他一些製圖人員試圖與您取得聯繫(請...
12017-12-22 15:37:53 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Can you explain the change that you've made here? You've removed some language code values, can yu explain why?
The changeset comment you've used is just "change" - that doesn't really explain what you've changed to what and why. Can you explain?
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-12-21 00:07:40 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Please don't add test data to the live OpenStreetMap Server. If you want a test server, perhaps https://master.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you?
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-12-17 13:23:24 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Just wondered what "highway=p" on https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4975309742 was?
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-12-18 20:05:50 UTCdaveemtb Good spot. Perhaps it was meant to be highway=passing place? There's a bug in the version of iD I was using where the text cursor jumps from the value box back to the key box after typing one or two characters. Could have resulted from that.

If it looks like a passing place feel free to correct -...
32017-12-18 20:06:34 UTCdaveemtb or rather passing_place
42017-12-18 20:23:59 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks - it does look like a passing_place on the imagery, so I've changed it.
12017-12-17 01:11:13 UTCSomeoneElse You've added "network=Nation Rail" on https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3711588220/history ; presumably this should be "National Rail". Isn't this also a duplicate of https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/296406307/history ?
12017-12-16 20:42:31 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
These buildings got added in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
I've deleted them now, but have you any idea how that might have happened?
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-12-08 15:26:36 UTCfantomas Hello. You added objects to the ocean. Please, don't use OSM as sandbox.
22017-12-16 20:23:42 UTCSomeoneElse If you want a test server, perhaps https://master.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you?
Best Regards,
Andy
32017-12-16 20:24:25 UTCSomeoneElse Si vous voulez un serveur de test, peut-être que https://master.apis.dev.openstreetmap.orgfonctionnerait pour vous?
Meilleures salutations,
Andy
12017-12-16 20:03:20 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
As you can see from the orange line around this change on the map at the right when you view the changeset on the OpenStreetMap website, it overlaps with the Atlantic because some data was accidentally added there.
It's been deleted now, but have you any idea ho...
12017-12-16 20:02:27 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
As you can see from the orange line around this change on the map at the right when you view the changeset on the OpenStreetMap website, it overlaps with the Atlantic because some data was accidentally added there.

Best Regards,
Andy
12017-12-15 11:09:00 UTCSomeoneElse Just spotted https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/466732976 - looks a bit long for a horse_stile? Also there's another just to the southeast.
22017-12-15 19:42:35 UTCdudone Looks like JOSM's autocomplete has got the better of me. Corrected.

Regards

Dudley
32017-12-15 19:58:09 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks!
12017-12-12 14:54:41 UTCSomeoneElse Hello rowers2,
This looks very much like a mechanical edit.
Can you please explain what you were trying to do here and where you discussed it with the local community?
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend
22017-12-15 17:59:55 UTCSomeoneElse (replying to an OSM PM that basically said "I was just using the JOSM validator")

Hi rowers2,

Please don't take all of the JOSM validator's suggestions at face value - you'll need to ask yourself if there are any other problems in an area and whether information would be lost by maki...
12017-12-14 12:58:10 UTCSomeoneElse Just checking - is https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/369596182#map=19/53.23763/-1.70266 really a stile? It looks like it's on a small road from the imagery suggesting perhaps gate or cattle grid?
22017-12-14 20:02:47 UTCdudone Hi Andy

I've changed it to gate.

Regards

Dudley
12017-12-12 23:48:25 UTCSomeoneElse Hello BeachBumRetiree,
Is there any reason why you changed the whole residential area here to a park? Maybe there are some "park" (or other green) bits and some "houses" bits?
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-12-13 00:00:17 UTCBeachBumRetiree The neighborhood is spread out over a large area of land, with distinct residential areas interspersed with parks, woods, trails, tennis courts, green spaces, etc. Labeling the entire area "residential" overlooks this fact.
32017-12-13 00:08:12 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks. In that case I'd actually split it up so that the "houses" bit is residential and and the other bits are tagged appropriately too (park/wood/forest/whatever).
42017-12-13 02:31:34 UTCS-zation But the fact that it is a housing development with woods, recreational areas, or grass dispersed throughout doesn't change that it is an area zoned for residential use. And all of the green spaces/tennis courts/trails/recreation areas are already mapped on top of it. It doesn't match the definitio...
12017-12-12 23:34:54 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks - you beat me to it (while I was upgrading perl over here!).
12017-12-12 18:51:02 UTCSomeoneElse Any idea what sort of barrier https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/405528505 is?
Cheers,
Andy
22017-12-12 21:10:22 UTCSK53 Wire fence (from photos), now added along with a lot of other features
32017-12-12 22:22:26 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks!
42017-12-12 22:29:24 UTCSK53 More to be done. I dont think many field boundaries got added, all TS-C woods need severe tidying up etc. Lots of unmapped woodland towaards Lurgashall.
12017-12-12 19:37:27 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Just for info, I've blocked Darwin721 for a period of time - see https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1659 - for continually changing this residential area to a park. Are you OK fixing the problems here or do you need any help?
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, from OSM's Data Working Group....
22017-12-12 19:46:56 UTCS-zation Hi there,
Thank you for stopping the vandalism. I think I am ok with fixing the problems here. The biggest issue was the continual revert of the residential areas to parks.
32017-12-12 19:49:59 UTCSomeoneElse OK, thanks. We'll keep an eye open for edits by "known problem users" and keep an eye open for changes to the residential area. If you spot anything else iffy, drop a mail to data@osmfoundation.org .
Best Regards,
Andy
42017-12-12 20:30:27 UTCS-zation It looks like he is back on a new account
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/BayForest
I can't revert all of the new changesets if he makes new accounts
52017-12-12 21:08:06 UTCfreebeer Confirmed, you beat me to it.
Back home from school.
Off with the kid gloves, I suggest...
12017-12-12 19:10:02 UTCSomeoneElse Oops, If you look at https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/53352807/history I think that something's gone wrong here - a small section of wall has been merged with lots of other ways to create something that is now tagged "fence; fence; wall; fence; fence; fence; fence; wall; fence; wall".
Do...
12017-12-12 18:51:30 UTCSomeoneElse Any idea what sort of barrier https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2679422663 is?
Cheers,
Andy
22017-12-12 21:24:11 UTCSK53 A wooden gate; fixed
12017-12-12 18:49:07 UTCSomeoneElse Is https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/464186215 perhaps a hedge?
Cheers,
Andy
12017-12-12 14:38:12 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Darwin723,
I've blocked this account for the reasons described at http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1658 . Your previous account was told many times not to mistag residential areas as parks http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6310073 .
Best Regards,
Andy Towns...
12017-12-12 11:56:37 UTCChris Fleming again - I don't believe this to be a park. This has been mapped as woods for nearly 7 years and has been edited as such by several people. Have all the trees been cut down and this turned into a park?
22017-12-12 13:02:55 UTCSomeoneElse Hello andrewmci,
Whilst we're grateful for new mappers in OSM including those who seem to have come via Pokemon Go, please don't change existing features to "parks", whether they be gardens or areas of trees. In OSM there are many tags to choose from; always pick the most appropriate. F...
12017-12-07 09:32:15 UTCS-zation Why is a residential neighborhood marked as a park? And a construction zone in the neighborhood is marked as industrial?
22017-12-11 03:30:00 UTCDarwin721 Because OSM Influences Nests and Blocked Spawns: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/6ujkkv/osm_query_for_map_features_used_in_pokemon_go/

32017-12-11 23:12:49 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Darwin721,
Please don't "make things up" in OSM in the hope that things will turn up in Pokemon Go. This won't actually work for a couple of reasons - one is that people in OSM will change it back (as has happened here) and another is that according to the people who actually look ...
12017-12-11 22:29:55 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
I noticed this cafe called "Unknown"
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5152874523/history while tidying up mapping by some students up north. It's also removed the name here, but I'll add it back if the name really is called "Unknown" here (as opposed to you just not k...
12017-12-07 23:38:47 UTCSomeoneElse Hello BlinkingNora,
Here you've changed http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/24807683 to a "park". It certainly doesn't look like a park from the available imagery - that suggests it's an arable field with tramlines in it that a crop sprayer can go up and down.
Various people have been cha...
12017-12-06 16:51:24 UTCSomeoneElse Oops - here https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5260355269/history got added at latitude 0, longitude 0. I have removed it.
12017-12-06 16:34:34 UTCSomeoneElse As you can see by looking at http://osmhv.openstreetmap.de/changeset.jsp?id=54067904 , something went wrong here. Were you trying to import some data? Presumably you did not intend to add it to the middle of the sea?
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-12-06 16:35:14 UTCSomeoneElse Comme vous pouvez le voir en regardant http://osmhv.openstreetmap.de/changeset.jsp?id=54067904, quelque chose s'est mal passé ici. Étiez-vous en train d'importer des données? Vraisemblablement, vous n'aviez pas l'intention de l'ajouter au milieu de la mer?
Meilleures salutation...
12016-03-09 11:32:29 UTCwambacher reverted by https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37705806
22016-03-09 18:36:16 UTCSomeoneElse Hi EzekielT,
People have contacted you several times in the past about invalid admin level changes (including me, in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/33275714 ).
Whereas most things in OpenStreetMap are simply a matter of going and surveying something and then adding the results to OSM, wit...
32016-03-14 00:17:25 UTCEzekielT I have many sources: http://www.stabroeknews.com/2010/news/regional/10/09/netherlands-antilles-no-more/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constituent_country, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aruba, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sint Maarten, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curacao (although you did say...
42016-03-14 00:37:22 UTCSomeoneElse One of the articles you quote says "Aruba is one of the four constituent countries that form the Kingdom of the Netherlands". http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2323309 is the admin level 2 relation; Curaçao http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1216719 is a subarea of that.
As...
52016-03-14 15:28:41 UTCEzekielT That's a good idea. Okay.
62017-12-04 19:17:17 UTCtbakhuis Curacao is not NL as the Nominitem geocoder suggests.

Currently a lot of addresses are displayed in OSM as Street, Willemstad, 0000AA, NL. This is not correct. Here in Curacao we don't have zip codes and the NL should be changed to CW. Since 10-10 2010 Curaçao is an autonomous Country that...
72017-12-04 19:25:52 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks - I've added a comment over at https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=675663#p675663 (which is the forum where admin levels etc. are discussed). However, I'm not actually sure whether you're describing a problem with the data in OSM or with the Nominatim geocoder (Curaçao i...
82017-12-04 19:53:38 UTCtbakhuis It does sound strange when you see it like that but we never put NL (Netherlands) as country. I live in Curacao it just doesn't look right when we see Curacao, NL. Google's Geocoder has it right this time. Google Geocoder has Street, Willemstad, Curaçao
92017-12-05 08:49:08 UTCwambacher please read this answer at the forum:

#######################

Just for clarification:

There is a 'Kingdom of the Netherlands' (plural intended) - or 'Koninkrijk der Nederlanden' (idem).
Within this kingdom there are 4 autonomous countries:
- the Netherlands (again, plural intended in Eng...
102017-12-05 16:44:54 UTCEzekielT That's what I knew all this time, but I guess all of you still didn't listen :).
112017-12-06 10:52:25 UTCwambacher Hi EzekielT. no easy stuff ;)
see https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=675929#p675929
122017-12-06 20:52:13 UTCEzekielT Maybe we should tag all of them (Kingdom of the Netherlands, the Netherlands, Aruba, Sint Maarten, and Curaçao) as admin_level=2, as they're all officially countries!
132017-12-06 20:58:34 UTCEzekielT As in:

Kingdom of the Netherlands (including the Netherlands, Aruba, Curaçao, and Sint Maarten) -> admin_level=2

Netherlands -> admin_level=2

Curaçao -> admin_level=2.

Aruba -> admin_level=2.

Sint Maarten -> admin_level=2.
142017-12-07 03:15:43 UTCtbakhuis Seems correct to me. Indeed they're are all countries
12017-12-04 10:42:54 UTCSomeoneElse Hello BlinkingNora and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
Thanks for all your updates around Littlehampton. I just wondered about the change to this landuse though - it was "residential" before, and on the imagery it still looks fairly residential, is it really best described as commercial?
Hope ...
12017-12-04 00:14:04 UTCSomeoneElse ... so there was I looking for wind turbines, and I found this one. It's the only "power:generator=wind", and there are various other ones in use: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=wind#values .
12017-12-03 19:06:00 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
It looks like that's already mapped as http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/165124356 .
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-12-03 17:59:13 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Lots of buildings here have the same tags as https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/343819447 . Is that correct, or has it perhaps been copied to them all by mistake?
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-12-03 13:00:52 UTCSomeoneElse "disconnected highway" is because it isn't joined to the roads at either end. You can see that by looking at https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/544319672 - if it was joined at either end you'd see each end say "part of way ..." like https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38499018 does...
12017-12-02 23:16:38 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Krital,
As previously mentioned in http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1618 , you're adding strange numbered points again, this time as "tourist attractions" Can you explain what they are?
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-11-30 12:24:59 UTCSomeoneElse Can yo provide a little more detail about this change other than just "boundary corrections"? As I'm sure you're aware, a number of the boundaries here are disputed, and it'd be helpful to other mappers to explain what was wrong and what the change was in more detail.
Best Regards,
Andy...
22017-12-01 07:16:17 UTCwambacher Hi Ivan,

beside the fact, that this was a political motivated edit (Rep Srpska is NOT an internationally recognised country), you made some technical errors.

changes have been reverted.
32017-12-03 21:40:12 UTCmichalfabik Hi Ivan,
you renamed the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina relation to "Herceg Bosna", why? I renamed it back to "Federacija Bosne i Hercegovine" as there is no recognised entity under the name of "Herceg Bosna". I'm quite certain that you know this very well.
...
42017-12-04 04:11:20 UTCwambacher @michal i tried to revert his changes, may be i missed that?
52017-12-04 07:00:20 UTCmichalfabik Hi, yeah, it looks like it. I downloaded all three admin_level=4 relations that make up Bosnia and everything seemed fine, there was just this one glaring "error". It should be ok now.
12017-11-29 19:32:32 UTCSomeoneElse Just checking - have you checked this edit with the local community? http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/44078077 suggests it's an actual deliberate name change.
NPR suggests it's a valid change too.
22017-11-29 19:38:07 UTCRanger444 Wow, I had no idea they changed the name. Thought someone was messing with the data.

I've reverted it
32017-11-29 19:44:59 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks!
42017-11-29 19:46:30 UTCRanger444 I thought the language was Russian...
52017-11-29 19:52:47 UTCCinderBDT907 https://www.facebook.com/COBarrow/photos/a.561904543975776.1073741828.560850137414550/886154371550790/?type=3&permPage=1
62017-11-29 19:59:23 UTCRanger444 Thanks Cinder, I looked at a few articles after SomeoneElse commented on the changeset and I changed it back...
12017-11-27 17:32:23 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
I know that it was a long time ago, but in this changeset you've added the same river twice. Have a look at
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/905736932
and
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/905751387
and see also
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/5734699
https://www.openstreet...
22017-11-27 17:33:15 UTCSomeoneElse Bonjour,
Je sais que c'était il y a longtemps, mais dans ce changeset vous avez ajouté la même rivière deux fois. Jettes un coup d'oeil à
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/905736932
et
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/905751387
et voir aussi
https://www.ope...
12017-11-27 11:29:41 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks (the perils of cut and paste!)
12017-11-27 09:05:58 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
I've removed the wikipedia tag you added here because the wikipedia page for an abstract concept ("null island") isn't relevant to a physical buoy floating in the ocean.
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-11-28 01:57:04 UTCRexma423 I would disagree with you but do whatever you want.
12017-11-26 16:24:15 UTCSomeoneElse Mind if I change https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1262117773 etc. to "information=route_marker" and then add them to the Heart of England Way relation?
Cheers,
Andy
22017-11-27 08:53:56 UTCbrianboru No problem. Go ahead
12017-11-26 15:14:47 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Looking at https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=pillbox#values the most popular tagging seems to be "military=bunker" together with "bunker_type=pillbox". https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1916451008 is an example of it.
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-11-09 11:49:34 UTCSomeoneElse Not sure how it happened, but a node got added in the Pacific in this change: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4814186894/history :)
22017-11-25 15:52:44 UTCSomeoneElse I've deleted it.
12017-10-22 01:28:00 UTCSomeoneElse If you want to test stuff, there's a test site over at https://master.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ that you can use.
It's probably about time that these were changed back to houses...
22017-11-25 15:52:22 UTCSomeoneElse I've changed them back.
12017-11-25 15:02:50 UTCSomeoneElse Hello
From the decription, it looks like http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5150025623 might actually be a brewery rather than just a bar. In order to add a brewery to OSM you'll need to use a different editor to MAPS.ME - it only allows the creation of basic points of interest. If you go to https...
12017-11-05 15:56:35 UTCmueschel Hi,
could you please have a look at these changes? You added some "highway=residential" to objects which should rather be buildings.

Jan
22017-11-25 14:24:27 UTCSomeoneElse I've reviewed these, changed the "buildings" to buildings and removed some that just looked like a bit of concrete had been swept.
12017-11-25 12:53:06 UTCSomeoneElse Hello nabla_de,
This is a very big changeset - it covers most of the planet. It is difficult for other mappers to see what changed with changesets that are so large. Can you explain what changes you were making in here and what the source was? The changeset comment is just "ways corrected&q...
22017-11-25 12:54:14 UTCSomeoneElse Hallo nabla_de,
Das ist ein sehr großer Changeset - er deckt den größten Teil des Planeten ab. Für andere Mapper ist es schwierig zu sehen, was sich bei so großen Changesets geändert hat. Kannst du erklären, welche Änderungen du hier vorgenommen hast und w...
12017-11-25 11:58:08 UTCSomeoneElse Hello sltyu03 and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
If you're wondering what this email is about it's about some OpenStreetMap edits you did back in June (along with the rest of a class?). We're trying to get in touch with the person who was teaching the class so if you can remember who that was it'd be g...
12017-11-25 11:57:14 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Jonathan and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
If you're wondering what this email is about it's about some OpenStreetMap edits you did back in June (along with the rest of a class?). We're trying to get in touch with the person who was teaching the class so if you can remember who that was it'd be ...
12017-11-25 11:56:10 UTCSomeoneElse Hello GracesChing and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
If you're wondering what this email is about it's about some OpenStreetMap edits you did back in June (along with the rest of a class?). We're trying to get in touch with the person who was teaching the class so if you can remember who that was it'd ...
12017-11-25 11:55:26 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Claudia Gee and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
If you're wondering what this email is about it's about some OpenStreetMap edits you did back in June (along with the rest of a class?). We're trying to get in touch with the person who was teaching the class so if you can remember who that was it'd ...
12017-11-25 11:53:28 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Ng Jin Jing and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
If you're wondering what this email is about it's about some OpenStreetMap edits you did back in June (along with the rest of a class?). We're trying to get in touch with the person who was teaching the class so if you can remember who that was it'd ...
12017-11-25 01:01:01 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Please don't add test data to the live OpenStreetMap Server. If you want a test server, perhaps https://master.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you?
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-11-25 01:03:57 UTCSomeoneElse_Revert This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 54062701 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some test data including near null island
12017-11-22 22:58:42 UTCSomeoneElse I don't think that the chemists in Clipstone was ever a hospital was it? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/541972384/history
22017-11-23 07:33:32 UTCBCNorwich Hi SomeoneElse, the present tags were not from myself, a search shows the facility mapped to have actually been Clipstone Health Centre. If it's confirmed to not be now closed it ought to be tagged disused.
Regards Bernard
32017-11-24 15:08:36 UTCSomeoneElse Well (the chemists) was shut when I was there. It looks like a new mapper added the "hospital". They've only been mapping for a couple of days so I'll let them get their feet under the table before pinging them with questions :)
12017-11-20 18:31:26 UTCSomeoneElse Er no, not a "shop=beauty". Please don't mechanically edit things that are not simple typos.
22017-11-21 07:04:28 UTCobserver Can you please explain why you invent tags for yourself with capitals, add a 'shop' without address, website or what so ever and then start to complain about so-called mechanical edits? My tagging is according to the wiki and the rules that are set out in there and I find your behaviour quite worryi...
32017-11-24 00:38:31 UTCSomeoneElse > Can you please explain why you
> invent tags for yourself with capitals ...
No, "shop=tanning" - the "T" was just a typo.
> ... add a 'shop' without address,
> website or what so ever...
When I walked past it was dark. Funnily enough the website (if there is...
42017-11-24 08:10:50 UTCobserver The fix was not made because of a typing error but because the tagging scheme seemed inappropriate to me. I tried to do a good thing and I am still flabbbergasted about the reaction.
52017-11-24 09:35:40 UTCobserver The 'normal' tagging scheme is shop=beauty and beauty=tanning. If this is expressed like shop=tanning than this can only mean that the tanning is unrelated to beauty. If this is not what the mapper intended than it is a mistake to tag it in that way. I just tried to help the mapper.
62017-11-24 09:42:31 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks for trying to help, but maybe the best way to find out what the mapper intended is to actually ask them? In this case "tanning" is on page 13 of 860 of https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/shop#values - it's far from a "long tail" value (and there's nothing wrong with &...
72017-11-24 15:24:52 UTCobserver I understand what you say but it only takes away the fun of contributing to osm. Also I dind't expect to get involved in such a long discussion over something that looks like a minor detail to me. And I really don't understand the purpose of so many different tags that mean the same. And if they don...
82017-11-27 10:48:49 UTCobserver "maybe the best way to find out what the mapper intended is to actually ask them?"

The name is "The Tanning Room" and the type was "Tanning." There was no reason to doubt the intention.

Whenever I add data to OSM it is no longer my data. Anyone can change it, add...
12017-11-23 23:39:10 UTCSomeoneElse Unfortunately it looks like you "corrected" self intersections in some Pokemon doodles here :)
12017-11-19 09:21:30 UTCSomeoneElse The wikidata entry for https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/255467667 looks wrong to me. The link is to the wikidata entry for the character, not to the statue itself.
22017-11-20 20:59:17 UTCnyuriks Agree. This is part of the wp/wd -> subject:wp/wd, or artist:*, or several other ones. Specifically for the fictional characters, most likely its a subject. I have made a task for this - please click "save" on it if you agree.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Link_Improve...
32017-11-20 22:56:01 UTCSomeoneElse Er - I've no idea why you're saying 'please click "save" on it if you agree'. If you've added a wikidata tag in error (as appears to be the case here) just remove it. There is no need to have "made a task for this".
12017-11-20 18:40:18 UTCSomeoneElse Just checking - have you actually surveyed these? Some have been changed from abandoned to razed; some from dismantled from abandoned. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/229069543/history for example has a note on it saying that that nothing's visible from the path; are you now saying that something...
22017-11-20 18:45:47 UTCSomeoneElse Also, from memory, aren't bits of https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/16521029/history visible (as openings onto the tunnel) from the street?
32017-11-20 18:50:55 UTCSomeoneElse Is the path https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/99777062/history designated as a public footpath for the whole length? Is any stretch beyond it if any is designated? There was/is a fixme node at https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1153360498 .
12017-11-19 20:08:07 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Thanks for deleting the "Sri Lankan buildings" in the middle of the Atlantic. As well as those though the Atlas buoy http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3815077900/history also got deleted. I've undeleted it.
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-11-19 20:08:53 UTCSomeoneElse Здравствуйте,
Спасибо, что удалили «здания Шри-Ланки» в середине Атлантики. Как и те, которые, несмотря на то, что Atlas buoy http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3815077900/history также удал...
32017-11-19 22:12:01 UTCForstEK Sorry, didn't know about this point. Thanks for fix, i'll be more careful :)
12017-11-19 20:05:45 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
I think that something went a bit wrong here - it looks like you added some buildings in the middle ot the Atlantic here.
Someone's deleted them now.
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-11-18 11:09:38 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks for adding these. I had no idea there was a crossing across the 680 entry ramp at http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/541384478 - don't think I'd fancy trying it in the dark!
12017-11-05 13:27:16 UTCzstadler Hi,

In this edit you have created several issue by moving nodes belonging to ways in the Weizzman Institute.

For example, https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53397135 was distorted because https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/909597094 was moved.
.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5114682...
22017-11-07 07:54:55 UTCSafwatHalaby Moovit Team seem to never respond to changeset comments. Are they a single person or a generic account?
32017-11-07 07:57:51 UTCSafwatHalaby For the record: https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=1190212
42017-11-07 08:01:30 UTCSafwatHalaby I've sent them a PM, in case that catches their attention.
52017-11-07 13:25:42 UTCzstadler I've sent the following e-mail to the OSM Data Working Group:
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Hello DWG members,
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Over the last 3 years 13 changesets created by Moovit Team have been discussed with a total of 16 comments regarding potential mapping errors. The Moovit Team did not respond to any of them.
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We would appreci...
62017-11-08 17:48:55 UTCSafwatHalaby The DWG have soft-blocked Moovit Team, until they read this message: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1620
72017-11-08 17:52:10 UTCSafwatHalaby I suspect they've already introduced many weird access tags that were uncaught by our QA.
82017-11-16 15:12:54 UTCSomeoneElse @Safwat The change at http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53842443 suggests that "Moovit Team" might actually be reacting to comments, even if they're not replying in changeset discussions.
Best Regards,
Andy
92017-11-16 20:56:25 UTCSafwatHalaby No, that's a generic description I've seen earlier too. And the post-block permissions still look weird and out of place with the normal way we tag footways or paths. The soft block had no effect whatsoever on behavior or communication as of now.
102017-11-16 20:57:14 UTCSafwatHalaby For instance, this is totally confusing: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53842919 , why not just use highway=footway?
112017-11-16 20:59:42 UTCSafwatHalaby Specifically, this way was edited after the block: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/541053309
122017-11-16 21:06:33 UTCSafwatHalaby I sent the following "support request" from their site, in case they're somehow missing this:
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Hello, your OpenStreetMap editing account, "Moovit Team", is not behaving according to community standards. Since 2014, several users asked questions about many different edits, and ...
132017-11-19 11:55:12 UTCMoovit Team Thank you for your comments.
Up until now, we did not received updates regarding discussion about our edits.
In the following days we will check your comments and reply accordingly.

Thanks for your understanding,
Moovit Team.
142017-11-21 12:19:11 UTCMoovit Team Hi Zeev,

Thank you for the detailed comments.

In this changes set i tried to change the name of the street and verify that the permissions are correct.
If i make change in the graphic line you are more than welcome to reverse my changes.

Sorry if the change I made caused you problems.
152017-11-21 13:22:02 UTCzstadler Hello Moovit Team,
Thank you for responding to the comments.
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If I understand you correctly, you have modified the geometry of ways and location of nodes when you wanted just to change their tags.
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IMO, it is an unreasonable conduct for a mapper with more than 1000 edits.
12017-11-16 10:54:21 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap,
You've tagged http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/537394875/history with a name of "non exsist boundary". Is this country boundary not in the correct place, and if not where should it be?
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-11-16 00:19:34 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Please don't add test data to the live OpenStreetMap Server. If you want a test server, perhaps https://master.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you?
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-11-13 18:47:29 UTCSomeoneElse Oops - it looks like you added the "learnosm" test data to OSM by accident here. It's not your fault - there's supposed to be a flag in that to prevent that happening :)
12017-11-13 18:46:50 UTCSomeoneElse Oops - it looks like you added the "learnosm" test data to OSM by accident here. It's not your fault - there's supposed to be a flag in that to prevent that happening :)
12017-11-13 01:08:52 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
As has been pointed out on the "imports" mailing list a number of times over the last month or so, there are still problems with newly-added sidewalks not actually joining to anything. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/540087287 is an example in this changeset.
Back in September ...
22017-11-13 05:06:17 UTC3vivekb Hi Andy. I'm the project leader. I'll reply to your email on the imports list shortly.
12017-11-13 00:58:43 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
There seems to be a bit of a problem with at least one of the sidewalks added here -
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/540095721 doesn't actually connect to anything else. Without connections, nothing that consumes OSM data will be able to do anything useful w...
12017-11-12 22:02:16 UTCSomeoneElse I've never been there, but can't believe that "wreck" makes sense here?
22017-11-12 22:35:13 UTCSK53 I dont either & sound mirror isnt spelt correctly.
32017-11-12 22:39:47 UTCSK53 Looks like it was mentor tag-fiddling http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24464842, but I now seem to have changed it to fix (wtf !?)
12017-11-12 21:31:51 UTCSomeoneElse I'm guessing that the spelling of "Mandale Enginer House" on http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5198601990 is possibly a typo?
22017-11-13 16:51:56 UTCdudone Corrected to "Engine". Thanks

Dudley
12017-11-12 18:22:39 UTCSomeoneElse The signage I've seen is at the north of the rec ground that has the football goals on it. The cricket ground just has signage for "Farnsfield Cricket Club".
If you know someone that has better information then please update it - someone who lives there is far more likely to know than ...
12017-11-12 10:07:34 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Can you explain what "piste_type=yes" (with no other tags) on http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/539965621 is supposed to indicate?
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-11-11 20:42:26 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
I now that this was a long time ago, but I think that something went wrong with https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/256251796, historic is set to "{'ruins': 1}".
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-11-11 20:43:07 UTCSomeoneElse Cześć,
To było dawno temu, ale myślę, że coś poszło nie tak z https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/256251796, historia jest ustawiona na "{'ruins': 1}".
Z poważaniem,
Andy
12017-11-11 17:08:27 UTCSomeoneElse
Hi,
Not sure exactly what happened, but http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/522140839 was set as construction. That way was created here, but likely split from something else. I've removed the construction tag, but I suspect that it belongs on a subarea somewhere.
Cheers,
Andy
12017-11-10 11:50:40 UTCSomeoneElse Hello, http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/417842657/history seems occupy the same site as http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/400012874 . Do you know which one is correct?
22017-11-10 11:51:14 UTCSomeoneElse Bonjour, http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/417842657/history semble occuper le même site que http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/400012874. Savez-vous lequel est correct?
12017-11-09 11:50:57 UTCSomeoneElse You've said here "Fix self intersection of area outline.". Could you explain what the problem actually was?
22017-11-09 12:10:51 UTCBCNorwich Hi The changeset shows that one node (5215244108, v2) was removed from way (256223532, v4). If you temporarily revert the changeset you can easily see what changes have been made. The removed node was at the north east of the landuse=farmland area where it borders the wood, here :- https://osm.org/g...
12017-11-09 11:40:13 UTCSomeoneElse Hello, something's gone a bit wrong here. You've added something in the middle of the Indian ocean https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4718693707/history and a number of other empty nodes and a shelter in a car park?
12017-11-09 11:35:13 UTCSomeoneElse I've removed https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1102481393/history as it presumably doesn't exist in that location :)
12017-11-09 11:17:50 UTCSomeoneElse Oops - it looks like you added the "learnosm" test data to OSM by accident here. It's not your fault - there's supposed to be a flag in that to prevent that happening :)
12017-11-08 23:17:49 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
You've changed "name" here from "name:ar" to "name:ckb". Obviously (as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kirkuk_%282017%29#Aftermath ) the situation on the ground is changing by the day and very much in a state of flux. Can you please explain your re...
12017-10-27 13:22:12 UTCSomeoneElse Hello ans welcome to OpenStreetMap!
You've used "Akros Global Health" as a source on http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/536038468 - what is "Akros Global Health"?
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-10-29 13:07:40 UTCNakaner @SomeoneElse: See also https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53285199
32017-10-29 13:09:56 UTCNakaner @SomeoneElse: Seems to be an organized "import". I found another user (OSMCha filtering for changesets with more than 8000 additions): https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53282724
42017-11-05 04:47:22 UTCSomeoneElse_Revert This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 53501753 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some imported or semi-imported buildings including many overlaps in Zambia. An attempt to contact the mapper failed and communication via someone that appears to be the project co-ordin...
52017-11-07 21:01:44 UTCNakaner @SomeoneElse Was it intended to only revert parts of the "import"? Parts of the mess still exist (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/535616453#map=19/-14.54914/30.88742) and further changesets have been uploaded today.

Let me know if you need someone who runs complex_revert.pl for you. I...
62017-11-07 21:16:22 UTCSomeoneElse @nakaner yes, I deliberately only reverted the zch* changesets so far (after trying to contact them about it and receiving no response for a week). I'm aware of more problems, but the other Akros mappers made fewet mistakes. You'll notice that I've commented on changesets of each of them where ther...
12017-11-07 15:51:32 UTCSomeoneElse Hello, I've undeleted the Atlas buoy at latitude 0, longitude https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3815077900/history#map=6/3.217/0.945 which was (presumably accidentally) in this changeset.
Also, it would really help other mappers if you used meaningful changeset comments. "#Benin #Mono #Com&e...
22017-11-07 15:53:01 UTCSomeoneElse Bonjour, j'ai remodelé la bouée Atlas à la latitude 0, longitude https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3815077900/history#map=6/3.217/0.945 qui était (probablement accidentellement) dans ce changeset.
En outre, cela aiderait vraiment les autres mappeurs si vous utilisiez de...
12017-11-07 12:21:01 UTCSomeoneElse Hello sbootsma and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
Something seems to have gone wrong with one of the roads in this change:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/468933242/history#map=19/26.18926/88.36955

if you look at the history at the left you can see that lots of nodes got incorporated twice. Any...
22017-11-07 12:21:34 UTCSomeoneElse Hallo sbootsma en welkom bij OpenStreetMap!
Er is iets misgegaan met een van de wegen in deze wijziging:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/468933242/history#map=19/26.18926/88.36955

als je naar de geschiedenis aan de linkerkant kijkt, zie je dat veel knooppunten tweemaal zijn opgenomen. Enig i...
12017-11-06 21:02:26 UTCchillly This looks like an undiscussed mechanical edit. You MUST discuss edits like this before you make them and get broad agreement in the area, GB in this case.

You MUST not assume the wiki is correct.
22017-11-07 04:16:17 UTCthetornado76 No, this was not a mechanical edit. I had only change same never accepted tags and sometime misspell e.g. "amenity=Health Centre" changed to the accepted healthcare=centre
I know the wiki ist correct. Therefore I had changed this.
32017-11-07 09:31:57 UTCSomeoneElse On https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/173985450/history you haven't "changed" anything, you've just removed one tag. One of the reasons why mechanical edits such as this one should be discussed is that someone might be consuming that tag. It's highly unlikely that anyone would object to a...
42017-11-07 13:33:39 UTCthetornado76 In this case I had deleted this tag, because it was double - healthcare is the accepted tag.
I think it is not helpful, to add a new or a own useless medical tag, when there is a accepted tag.
I will not remove more useless medical tags
52017-11-07 16:10:30 UTCSK53 It is a highly dubious statement that "healthcare is the accepted tag". Certainly in the UK medical facilities are much more likely to be mapped using the amenity key. The various healthcare tagging schemas advocated on the wiki have never received much mainstream support from mappers, by ...
62017-11-07 16:32:41 UTCthetornado76 This is correct. Amenity=doctors is the most accepted tag for healthcare Worldwide. But I don't want to change it from centre to doctor. Because the tag which I had changed was medical_centre. Therefore I used the healthcare tag.
If you want you can also add amenity doctors.
12017-11-07 01:34:11 UTCSomeoneElse Oops - I think you've uploaded the "learnosm" test data into the middle of the Atlantic. Don't worry - I'll delete it.
12017-11-06 23:24:46 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
In this changeset you've added http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/538844018 which is an almost exact duplicate of http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/538716681 added just 11 hours previously.
As I said in http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1616 , please take a little more care as you're ad...
12017-11-06 23:11:24 UTCSomeoneElse Hello, and welcome to OSM!
You've added http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5063928804/history as a "highway=motorway_junction" called "Motor way". This seems unlikely in the location that you've added it. What was it that you were trying to add? Maybe there's a better way of d...
12017-10-31 22:20:45 UTCYorvik Prestigitator Why have you moved Monkton Road Pharmacy from its correct location to Healey Grove?
22017-11-06 20:31:42 UTCSomeoneElse For info - I've moved Monkton Road Pharmacy back to Monkton Road (accidental node drag I guess). Currently looking at https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53378694 .
32017-11-06 20:37:24 UTCSomeoneElse OK, that's now done in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53565633 . Elm Park Way is now back in the land of the living :)
12017-10-29 00:15:53 UTCMike Baggaley Hi, are Clare Bank and Dere Street alternative names for the same road? If so, name should be set to one of them and alt_name to the other. Can you please review?

Thanks,
Mike
22017-10-31 14:22:32 UTCsmb1001 I've had a look at other sources and relabelled the route from Whittonstall to Ebchester. Dere Street is the name of the Roman Road so only applies to the parts that intersect with the road. Chare Bank is the official name in Ebchester, but I can't see if it extends beyond the bridge.
32017-11-06 10:24:40 UTCSomeoneElse So should e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4045056 be renamed back to Chare Bank? It's a few years since I drove up there, but I don't remember seeing any Dere Street signage (though it's memorable as a "long and straight road").
Best Regards,
Andy
42017-11-06 10:42:20 UTCsmb1001 The Ordnance Survey only lists the name Chare Bank in Ebchester itself - well before it reaches the bridge. It then lists B6309 after that. In addition it gives the name as Fine Lane when it turns north temporarily. On the straight part from there to Whittonstall it calls it Dere Street and B6309. A...
12017-11-02 17:46:58 UTCSK53 So you are also the person silently removing my bridge=footbridge tags too. Can you at the very least ask about these before changing them.
22017-11-02 17:54:25 UTCMike Baggaley Apologies for inadvertently failing to add a comment on the occasional change. If a way has highway=footway and bridge=yes then we know it is a footbridge.
32017-11-06 10:17:09 UTCSomeoneElse Mike,
Changing "bridge=<value>" to "bridge=yes" removes descriptive information from OSM. Please don't do it.
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group.
12017-11-06 07:02:47 UTCSomeoneElse Follow-on from http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53501753 (which hit 10k objects)
12017-11-06 07:02:41 UTCSomeoneElse Follow-on from http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53501753 (which hit 10k objects)
12017-11-06 07:02:36 UTCSomeoneElse Follow-on from http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53501753 (which hit 10k objects)
12017-11-05 17:09:24 UTCSomeoneElse Follow-on from http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53501753 (which hit 10k objects)
12017-11-05 17:09:16 UTCSomeoneElse Follow-on from http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53501753 (which hit 10k objects)
12017-11-05 17:09:08 UTCSomeoneElse Follow-on from http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53501753 (which hit 10k objects)
12017-11-05 11:25:21 UTCSomeoneElse Follow-on from http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53501753 (which hit 10k objects)
12017-11-05 09:24:38 UTCSomeoneElse Follow-on from http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53501753 (which hit 10k objects)
12017-11-05 09:04:22 UTCSomeoneElse Hello mdavenport1985,
There are at least a couple of problems with this changeset - http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5211700721/history appears to be a duplicate node of http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4445118202/history . Also there seems to be nothing in the Bing imagery to suggest that the u...
12017-11-04 23:15:50 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
not sure how it happened but http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5211235151/history is a "duplicate node" of http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2326986287/history which was created 4 years ago. Assuming these streets actually join, they should share nodes, and you can move fro one to t...
12017-11-04 22:02:23 UTCSomeoneElse Follow-on from http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53501753 (which hit 10k objects)
12017-11-04 13:18:42 UTCSomeoneElse Hello mdavenport1985,
As previously mentioned, I think that you're still "overinterpreting" aerial imagery somewhat. For example, I don't believe that http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/538277195 is all building (note that there's no defined shadow to the south) whereas http://www.openstre...
12017-11-04 11:49:33 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Is https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4957653990 best described as a tourism=information? I presume that it's not actually accessible, being sat on the White House roof - presumably I'd attract a fair bit of attention if I tried to go up there.
It sounds like it's something more like a man_ma...
12017-11-02 09:19:07 UTCwill_p Hi Mike,

I object to the change you have made here. You have changed bridge=chain to bridge=yes. How has the data been improved by this? You appear to only be stripping out information. I don't believe there is any consensus that bridges must only be tagged with bridge=yes. bridge=chain identifie...
22017-11-02 09:26:25 UTCMike Baggaley Hi Will, the reason for doing this is that bridge=chain is not rendered as a bridge by OSM, and is not included in the list of approved values. The bridge has a note on it saying it is a chain so no information has been lost.
Regards,
Mike
32017-11-02 13:37:22 UTCRichard note= tags aren't machine-readable - so in practice, moving things from a machine-readable tag to a note means that they are practically lost to all consumers.

At the very least, this should have been moved to bridge:structure= rather than a note= .

There is no "list of approved values&qu...
42017-11-02 13:39:46 UTCSK53 On the contrary information has been lost: changing a tag to a note is always information loss. You are changing tagging for the renderer, a practice which has been discouraged for many years. Instead you should a) file an issue with the rendering github repository and b) improve the wiki documentat...
52017-11-02 13:43:43 UTCSomeoneElse To be honest, as there's no highway or railway over it I'd add the "man_made=bridge" object (as a closed way) if possible.
It'd donkey's years since I've been to the Priest House though, so my memory isn't up to it.
62017-11-02 15:56:09 UTCMike Baggaley The difficulty with having an indeterminate set of bridge values is that it is impossible to determine which of the unusual values are actually bridges. For example, there were quite a few bridge=culvert tags which on examination mostly turned out to be waterways below roads and should not have had ...
72017-11-02 17:37:33 UTCSomeoneElse > The difficulty with having an indeterminate set of bridge values is that it is impossible to determine which of the unusual values are actually bridges.

Speaking as someone who's done that, no it isn't:

https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/SomeoneElse-style/blob/master/style.lua#L506
82017-11-02 17:46:02 UTCMike Baggaley >Speaking as someone who's done that, no it isn't:

What you have actually done there is build your list of 'approved' values :)
92017-11-02 17:50:24 UTCRichard > it is impossible to determine which of the unusual values are actually bridges

That's a genuine issue, but one which would be better fixed by removing the not-actually-a-bridge values than by removing the actually-a-bridge values. ;)
102017-11-02 17:53:59 UTCSK53 No, he's built a list of values which he finds useful. One of the main points of OSM is to allow the description of the unusual & idiosyncratic because a rigid list of approved values inevitably cannot cope. People enforcing a set of values devalues what OSM is about. For instance you have chang...
112017-11-03 12:27:53 UTCSomeoneElse Yes - what SK53 has said is correct. It's probably clearer to look at some of the other examples in the same file (barriers, shops, offices). For example, depending on the application it might make sense to render or otherwise process a cycle_barrier the same as a motorcycle_barrier or it absolute...
12017-11-03 12:15:18 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Please be aware that there are two nodes here - one for the town http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/599019138 and one for the province http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2914855220 . You've just changed the province one to place=town. Please be careful, especially when editing with OsmAnd (w...
12017-11-03 10:29:28 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
"fixed wrong name and added info" doesn't really explain what you changed here or why. If you'd said "changed name from version with '/' in it to the same as name:ckb, which is by far the most common used language here" that would explain things better to everyone.
12017-11-02 23:14:19 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/535073780 overlaps http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/423968288 that was added a year ago.
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-11-02 23:11:54 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/535616453 overlaps http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/426382206 that was added a year ago. There are some other similar overlaps nearby.
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-11-20 07:32:48 UTCharcher Good afternoon.

Could you please let me know which areas were reverted so I can look into them?

Thank you,
Helena
12017-10-27 13:30:11 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/535984314 appears to be a duplicate of http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/494011885 that was added 5 months ago
Can you stop adding stuff for a while until we can sort out how to avoid these duplicates?
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-11-02 23:09:09 UTCSomeoneElse Also http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/535984187
overlaps
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/531282011 .
32017-11-05 04:47:14 UTCSomeoneElse_Revert This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 53501753 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some imported or semi-imported buildings including many overlaps in Zambia. An attempt to contact the mapper failed and communication via someone that appears to be the project co-ordin...
12017-11-02 22:59:33 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/508436188 overlaps http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/407586677 .
Presumably something went wrong when you were uploading it?
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-11-02 22:56:55 UTCSomeoneElse Hello, building http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/507733122 overlaps
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/507403088 .Presumably something went wrong with the upload?
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-10-29 13:08:57 UTCNakaner Hi harcher,

this and your previous changesets seem to be an import. When was this import discussed on the international Imports mailing list? Where is this import documented at the OSM wiki?

Imports must comply with the Import Guidelines (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines)....
22017-10-30 10:05:04 UTCharcher Good morning,
Although it's large amount of data, it's not an import in the sense referred to in the Wiki. We had a team of enumerators drawing houses in QGIS using DigitalGlobe images, and are uploading that information in batches. It was preferably logistically to do in QGIS for data cleaning and...
32017-11-01 20:36:23 UTCNakaner Hi Helena,

thank you for your response. Could you please provide the license agreement between Digital Globe and you which explicitly allows you to upload traced features to OpenStreetMap?

If you edit OSM, you must not user sources we are not explicitly allowed to use.

Best regards

Micha...
42017-11-02 06:04:55 UTCharcher Good morning Michael,

I can look into this, but the DigitalGlobe Standard images available via JOSM are already match the features we have drawn? That is, we could have created the same shapefile in OSM as it's the same source.

Warmly,
Helena
52017-11-02 22:37:09 UTCSomeoneElse @harcher "batches are also cleaned against existing OSM data before uploading to prevent duplication and overlap (i.e., areas with previously drawn structures). "
This hasn't happened in a number of places, such as https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53283139 . I commented there 7 da...
62017-11-07 21:02:34 UTCNakaner Hi Helena,

the features you uploaded today do not match any of the imagery we are allowed to use (example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/539035317). In addition, nobody from your team proved that you have the permission to use imagery from "DigitalGlobe EV Webhosting". The lack of a...
72017-11-07 21:36:52 UTCharcher Good evening,
If you could provide me an email address or other means to upload files, I would be happy to share with you a screenshot that shows where the shapefiles align with DigitalGlobe Premium Images available in JOSM for Siavonga. Additional structures may be drawn in, but this is likely due...
82017-11-07 21:44:17 UTCNakaner Hi Helena,

you can either upload the agreement to the OSM wiki or send it to ahfogoo2xugohj4iy2li@michreichert.de (the email address is a temporary alias and will be deleted in a few weeks for spam protection).

Best regards

Michael
92017-11-08 18:58:10 UTCNakaner Hi Helena,

thank you for sending me the email. I will have a look on it and forward it to SomeoneElse.

Best regards

Michael
12017-11-02 22:09:52 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Please don't add test data to the live OpenStreetMap Server. If you want a test server, perhaps https://master.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you?
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-11-02 22:09:38 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Please don't add test data to the live OpenStreetMap Server. If you want a test server, perhaps https://master.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you?
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-11-01 19:59:50 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Thanks for tidying these up!
Cheers,
Andy
12017-11-01 14:34:16 UTCandi9876 Dear, please stop add viewpoints, remeber it´s visible for everybody!
22017-11-01 14:50:43 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Krital and Welcome to OpenStreetMap!
You may not be aware, but when you edit OpenStreetMap you're editing a map that everyone can see, not just your personal copy. Please do continue editing, but please do only add things that are verifiable on the ground. If you want to add a personal bookma...
32017-11-01 14:54:04 UTCSomeoneElse ជំរាបសួរលោក Krital និងសូមស្វាគមន៍មកកាន់ OpenStreetMap!
អ្នកប្រហែលជាមិនដឹងទេប៉ុន្តែនៅពេលដែលអ្នកកែសម្រួល OpenStreetMap អ្នកកំពុ...
12017-10-31 15:15:17 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Did you create http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3765 and http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3766 ? If so, you might want to have a look at https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53348097 and the mailing list thread at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2017-October/079378.html .
B...
12017-10-31 15:09:58 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
I think you might be overinterpretating the imagery a bit here. I can't see any source for http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/537176988#map=19/25.35680/-12.04784 in any of the available imagery and at http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5202318119/history it looks like the wall goes north, not eas...
12017-10-31 14:51:40 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
Looking at some of the changes here such as https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/536717413 I think you may be "overinterpreting" the imagery somewhat.
If you look at the different imagery choices available you can get a feeling for the scale quite while,...
12017-10-31 13:12:24 UTCSomeoneElse Your changes to https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/530914953/history suggest that this is simply a mechanical edit made without engaging your brain. Clearly the mapper there has misunderstood how to map amenities; you have now made the map suggest that the entire pier area is a toliet.
22017-11-17 18:23:51 UTCPolarbear @geozeisig, this is exactly what I was trying to explain in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53295049 - your mechanical edits are covering underlying problems.
And you do not even fix your errors when being pointed to. You just jump to another tag for a mechanical edit.
Fixed harbour ->...
32017-11-18 10:28:18 UTCwoodpeck_repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 53896411 where the changeset comment is: revert mechanical edits by geozeisig
12017-10-26 15:44:25 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Here you appear to have changed a number of "shop=pharmacy" to "amenity=pharmacy".
Are you sure that that is appropriate in all cases rather than e.g. "shop=chemist"?
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-10-27 08:00:43 UTCgeozeisig "shop=pharmacy" is rejected, so we should use "amenity=pharmacy" instead.
Best Regards,
Dieter
32017-10-31 13:10:16 UTCSomeoneElse I didn't say "shop=pharmacy", I said "shop=chemist". I've reverted this. Local mappers will be able to pick up the correct tagging in each case.
42017-11-18 10:28:16 UTCwoodpeck_repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 53896411 where the changeset comment is: revert mechanical edits by geozeisig
12017-10-31 12:48:14 UTCSomeoneElse You've used a comment here of "PossibleSynonym", but I think you need to explain a bit more about why you've deleted a couple of the things here.
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-11-02 13:41:49 UTCPolarbear Hi geozeisig (deutsch auf Anfrage),
in your effort to change market->marketplace,
1.
in https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/76200283 you deleted a pedestrian area (which appears to be too large according to current Bing, but did you check locally that the buildings are still there and not demol...
32017-11-18 10:28:17 UTCwoodpeck_repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 53896411 where the changeset comment is: revert mechanical edits by geozeisig
12017-10-31 11:37:40 UTCSomeoneElse Please don't fight edit wars in OSM over political disputes.
http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=45382981
Where there are disputes, the OSMF rules are set out at http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesInformation.pdf . Specifically, the "on the ground rule" a...
22017-10-31 11:38:39 UTCSomeoneElse No lluiteu contra les guerres d'edició a OSM per disputes polítiques.
Http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=45382981
Quan hi ha disputes, les regles OSMF es detallen a http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesInformation.pdf. Concretament, s'aplica la regla &q...
12017-10-30 19:35:20 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
In order for things using OpenStreet data to understand that the thing that you've added is a bus stop you'll want to tell it that it's a bus stop (other than just having the name "Bus Stop").
In the editor that you're using, if you click on the point...
12017-10-29 11:19:21 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Does the deletion of http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/505783410/history and the other edits around
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/39.8654/43.6789 (you'll need to edit the area; many ways have no tags) look OK to you?
I'm asking because you edited there previously.
The mapper who de...
22017-10-29 11:19:34 UTCSomeoneElse Bonjour,
Est-ce que la suppression de http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/505783410/history et les autres modifications autour
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/39.8654/43.6789 (vous aurez besoin de modifier la zone, de nombreuses façons n'ont pas de balises) vous semble OK?
Je demande par...
32017-11-03 23:37:41 UTCGhybu Hello,
Unfortunately, he continues to give bad informations...

Thank you for your vigilance
Ghybu
12017-10-29 11:15:53 UTCSomeoneElse Hello fatih sadak,
Can you explain what http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/536616877 is please? It has no tags on it and doesn't match anything in the imagery.
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-10-29 11:16:19 UTCSomeoneElse Merhaba fatih sadak,
Http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/536616877 neyle ilgili lütfen açıklayabilir misiniz? Üzerinde etiketi yok ve görüntüdeki hiçbir şeyle eşleşmiyor.
Saygılarımla,
Andy
12017-10-26 14:51:53 UTCneuhausr Hi, I noticed you created these walking paths as one long line. Instead of doing this and creating overlapping paths, you should create smaller lines that connect to each other at nodes. Thanks for mapping!
22017-10-26 17:28:25 UTCSomeoneElse Hi SmokedSkull,
Welcome to OpenStreetMap!
Please don't reply like that to someone who's trying to help you - everyone understands that it can be difficult to get the hang of things at first, which is why the comment above was added. They're trying to help, not to criticise.
Best Regards,
Andy
32017-10-28 08:47:55 UTCSomeoneElse (for info I've hidden the comments above that caused my comment)
42017-10-28 22:03:48 UTCSmokedSkull Lick my nutsack
12017-10-27 13:34:25 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
I don't think that http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/535979294 is a motorway! Did you tag it as that by mistake?
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-10-26 14:56:01 UTCSomeoneElse Hello saboorkhan123,
Are you sure that https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/535486835/history is really a secondary road?
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-10-26 18:26:22 UTCSomeoneElse හෙලෝ සෝවර්කෝන්123,
Https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/535486835/history යනු ද්විතීයික මාර්ගයක්දැයි ඔබට විශ්වාසද?
සුභ පතමින්,
ඇන්ඩි
12017-10-26 14:42:12 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and Welcome to OpenStreetMap!
Unfortunately, we've had to undo this change - it added some things in the middle of the sea that obviously don't exist.
Please can you ask who is in charge of "#missingmap_eastern_University" to get in touch with OpenStreetMap's Data Working Group ple...
22017-10-26 18:25:58 UTCSomeoneElse OpenStreetMap වෙත සාදරයෙන් පිළිගනිමු!
අවාසනාවකට මෙන්, මෙම වෙනස අහෝසි කිරීමට සිදු විය. එය පැහැදිලිවම නොපවතින මුහුද මැද සමහ...
12017-10-26 14:36:34 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
Unfortunately we've had to undo this change - you'd added a number of features to northern Canada that don't actually exist (large buildings, drawn lines etc.).
Please can you ask who is in charge of "#missingmap_eastern_University" to get in touch wit...
22017-10-26 18:25:30 UTCSomeoneElse ආයුබෝවන්! OpenStreetMap වෙත ඔබව සාදරයෙන් පිළිගනිමු!
අවාසනාවකට අපි මෙම වෙනස අහෝසි කළ යුතුව තිබුණි - උතුරු කැනඩාවට ඇත්ත වශයෙ...
12017-10-26 14:29:00 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!,
Is https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/535524941 really a one-way primary motorroad?
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-10-26 18:25:03 UTCSomeoneElse ආයුබෝවන්! Welcome to OpenStreetMap !, ආයුබෝවන්!
Https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/535524941 ඇත්ත වශයෙන්ම එක් මාර්ගයක් ප්රාථමික මෝටර් මාර්ගයක්ද?
සුභ පතමි...
12017-10-26 14:12:55 UTCSomeoneElse Hello saboorkhan123 and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
Unfortunately, something went very wrong here - a whole town got moved 100km to the east. Please don't do anything in OpenStreetMap for a couple of hours until we've sorted things out.
Once that's happened, can you ask who is in charge of "#m...
22017-10-26 18:24:40 UTCSomeoneElse Hello saboorkhan123 සහ OpenStreetMap වෙත ඔබව සාදරයෙන් පිළිගනිමු!
අවාසනාවකට, යමක් මෙතැන වැරදියි - මුළු නගරයම කිලෝමීටර් 100 ක් නැඟෙනහිර දෙස...
12017-10-26 18:22:25 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
I'm not sure how it happened, but some data got added in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean here.
I've deleted it.
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-10-26 18:23:12 UTCSomeoneElse Bonjour et bienvenue sur OpenStreetMap!
Je ne sais pas comment c'est arrivé, mais certaines données ont été ajoutées à l'océan Atlantique ici.
Je l'ai supprimé.
Meilleures salutations,
Andy
12017-10-26 14:48:36 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Suthakaran,
There seems to be a problem with a number of the "#missingmap_eastern_university" and other related changesets by new mappers. Some of them have been adding large doodles - maybe they didn't realise that they were adding data to the live server? Also a new mapper moved ...
12017-10-24 19:37:09 UTCSomeoneElse Are you sure that http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/398397867/history is better described as a hotel than a resort?
22017-10-25 07:14:02 UTCgeozeisig Ok resort is correct in this place. But you should add the buildings with tourism=hotel.
32017-11-18 10:28:16 UTCwoodpeck_repair This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 53896411 where the changeset comment is: revert mechanical edits by geozeisig
12017-10-24 11:35:31 UTCSomeoneElse "source=Knowledge" means you've personally surveyed all of these, presumably? :)
22017-10-24 11:39:49 UTCkkrawczyk No - knowledge about tagging "pharmacy". If you check the history, you will notice that I changed tag shop=pharmacy to amenity=pharmacy
32017-10-24 13:48:29 UTCSomeoneElse How do you know that these items should have been tagged as "amenity=pharmacy" rather than "shop=chemist" (a perfectly valid but slightly different OSM tag)?
This is one reason among several why it's a good idea to discuss mechanical edits before doing them, as discussed in http...
12017-10-21 11:48:05 UTCwoodpeck Hello Владимир, against my warning you have reverted my changeset 53114647 instead of waiting for me to repair the problems. Now you are responsible for creating things like this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/384176165 and several 1000 other SEO entries in OpenStreetMap. Will you continu...
22017-10-23 21:32:31 UTCwoodpeck I see that you're making edits again; would you kindly comment on my question above? Do you intend to do anything about the SEO entries that you have re-added to OSM in this changeset?
32017-10-24 06:32:31 UTCВладимир К I didn't see any SEO entries. All POIs I saw are quite correct
42017-10-24 11:48:45 UTCSomeoneElse https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4744899123/history just looks residential to me. Are you sure that there's actually a furniture shop located there? If it's a "work from home" business, and there's nothing visible on the street, then it shouldn't really be in OSM. Also, you've left th...
52017-10-24 12:37:03 UTCwoodpeck The changeset contains a ton of nodes that are meaningless in OSM because they lack a POI type, but that carry advertising messages like this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/529863394 - or look at the way I pointed to in my comment above (a highway with a spammy description added), or click o...
62017-10-24 12:58:48 UTCВладимир К @SomeoneElse
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4744899123 has website and address on it is same as on the node.
Anyway, I don't see there SEO or something else, you should delete node.

@woodpeck What do you want? revert my revert? You deleted valid buildings, highway, nodes. Do you want others...
72017-10-24 13:01:43 UTCВладимир К all I see are some invalid tags on some of these POI. They should be fixed, not deleted
82017-12-22 08:18:20 UTCMateusz Konieczny Are you aware that you added spam in this edit?
92017-12-22 08:19:29 UTCMateusz Konieczny "I didn't see any SEO entries. All POIs I saw are quite correct"

So you made automatic edit without proper checks. Great.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/302768566/history had for example name set to "When you donate your vehicle to Breast Cancer Car Donations, the proceeds f...
102017-12-22 08:20:28 UTCMateusz Konieczny The same for http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/511823420 and other.
112017-12-23 08:36:17 UTCВладимир К yep, but firstly i reverted the huge autoatic edit without proper checks, In comments for reverted changeset i posted examples, there the hole buildings with adress was deleted! also your examples of roads was copletely deleted! not spam tag, but the whole way! Are your seriously defend such edits??...
12017-09-19 04:22:03 UTCSafwatHalaby Those image and "dataset" links are very strange. Mind explaining?
22017-09-19 04:27:08 UTCSafwatHalaby It appears those lead to sensor data. Perhaps the "image" tag should be renamed to "website" or some new tag. "image" is for images.
32017-10-12 06:24:12 UTCSomeoneElse @SafwatHalaby for info since there was no response here (possibly de to broken email) I sent a "message that has to be read" http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1564 .
42017-10-14 14:48:32 UTCcarlosz22 Hello.
This is not an import. We are working on a network of photometers and we are including them like any other meteorology station, it's a station for monitoring the sky brightness.
I used the tag image for image of the measures, maybe this is not correct, but I didn't find any other tag more e...
52017-10-14 14:49:18 UTCcarlosz22 And sorry, I don't respond to the previous messages because I din't see them.
62017-10-17 06:18:40 UTCSafwatHalaby I think you should be using "website" rather than "image". But let's wait for @SomeoneElse's reply. He knows better.
72017-10-17 06:33:43 UTCSomeoneElse @carlosz22 it still looks like an import to me - talking about the tags to be used before adding a large number of objects to OSM is one of the main steps set out at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines . I'd suggest that you follow those now (even if the discussion is after the in...
82017-10-21 17:20:10 UTCcarlosz22 Ok, I remove the tag image, no problem.
But it's not an import like it defined on the Wiki.
92017-10-21 17:25:20 UTCSomeoneElse Maybe you're reading a different wiki to me, but where did this data come from? Did you personally create it, either by by survey or by interpretation of imagery? Or did it come from some other source?
102017-10-21 17:35:12 UTCSafwatHalaby What would the right tag be? It's not image, and website is already occupied.
112017-10-21 18:31:43 UTCcarlosz22 I work in a project called Stars4All and one of the parts of the project is develop a network of photometers and include them in OpenStreetMap, the photometers are monitoring stations. All the data follows ODBL and it's totally open.
122017-10-21 18:34:44 UTCcarlosz22 And I'm the coordinator of the spread of photometers, so all the positions are from knowledge and survey.
12017-10-21 12:36:30 UTCSomeoneElse_Revert This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 52610327, 52610406, 52610426, 52610526, 52610598, 52610647, 52610703, 52610758, 52610797, 52610831, 52610880, 52610951, 52610981, 52611017, 52611043, 52611135, 52611950, 52612086, 52612150, 52612191, 52612273, 52612337, 52612396, 52612420, ...
22017-10-21 13:03:51 UTCSomeoneElse The reason why this is larger than just NSW is that changesets such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52640146 has a source of http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/business-industry/heavy-vehicles/maps/restricted-access-vehicles-map/map/ which was reverted here.
12017-10-18 21:00:16 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Are you sure that http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5024812100 isn't just drive-by spam? Also the equivalent node in LA? The London address looks fake for a couple of reasons - it's in Denmark Street, which is basically musical instrument shops and a few bars (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
22017-10-18 21:12:19 UTCChrissW-R1 Yes, I had looked this address at Google Street View and can't see something about a shop like this. I think it could be only an online shop.

But I don't want to remove it. Who knows, it could exist...
32017-10-18 23:21:47 UTCSomeoneElse If you think any of these might be valid, maybe try and contact the previous mappers?
12017-04-29 17:50:30 UTCSomeoneElse_Revert This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 47946345, 47947047, 47947482, 47978416, 47980692, 48002126.
22017-10-18 07:45:40 UTCBCNorwich Hi, sorry to say there's a small anomaly at, Way: 184967148 a stream tagged as a bridge crossing Way: 488314032 a track tagged as a bridge. Ther's also a short section of duplicated track.
As I see you're doing several reverts I thought it best to let you know this problem.
Regards Bernard
32017-10-18 10:22:08 UTCSomeoneElse Re http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/184967148 , if you're familiar with the area then by all means fix it. If not, it'll clearly show up as a QA issue and someone who is familiar with the area will be able to fix it.
Unfortunately I haven't been walking that side of Keswick (other than just around...
12017-10-16 07:51:15 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
You still are not using meaningful changeset comments. We know what "Hydrology" means, but it does not explain the process you are using.
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group.
22017-10-16 21:34:55 UTCvelmyshanovnyi What would you write for this set?
I have no imagination
32017-10-17 06:37:22 UTCSomeoneElse I'd explain the process that you're going through to add the data. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments has some ideas.
42017-10-17 18:59:56 UTCvelmyshanovnyi thnx
12017-10-16 14:16:00 UTCSomeoneElse For information, I've re-added a lot of the language codes that you had previously removed from Lirkuk. If there are any problems, please contact data@osmfoundation.org .
This has been mentioned before, see http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1459 .
12017-10-15 10:01:12 UTCSomeoneElse Hello johanemilsson,
This is geographically a very large change with no comment explaining what was changed. Can you explain what you were changing and why?
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-10-16 12:52:36 UTCjohanemilsson Hi Andy,
It sure is a large area. I forgot to add comment but it should be some like "Embassies missing representing country #maproulette-2791". Feel free to pitch in if you have any interest in foreign missions and some spare time :)
/Johan
32017-10-16 13:12:58 UTCSomeoneElse Are you sure that all the locations are correct? Many in the list seem to have been created by MAPS.ME users, who tend to use lesser-used tags (such as "embassy") to create personal markers. http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4697076691/history in particular seems odd; it was previously t...
42017-10-16 13:25:24 UTCSomeoneElse For info:
https://github.com/maproulette/maproulette2/issues/348
52017-10-17 06:24:40 UTCjohanemilsson Thanks for raising this issue! Will need to review my latest embassy edits.
12017-10-15 23:34:11 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Rexma423, and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
The change that you've made here covers quite a large geographical area and that makes it difficult for people in one area to see just the things that affect them in their area. If you put different edits in different areas in different changesets then...
22017-10-15 23:43:42 UTCRexma423 Sorry about that, next time i'll be more specific.
32017-10-16 07:28:09 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks
42018-04-11 23:17:55 UTCRexma423 You're welcome SomeoneElse.
12017-10-16 07:27:10 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Salaamlogari,
I think that this got saved accidentally - http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/532878906/history just seems like a doodle.
I've removed it.
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-10-15 23:23:41 UTCSomeoneElse Hello velmyshanovnyi,
All of your recent changesets just have the changeset comment "#hidrology". Can you please start to use sensible changeset comments that describe the change that you made and what the source was (it doesn't appear to be Bing here, despite the tag).
22017-10-16 00:07:19 UTCvelmyshanovnyi server_api = bing
server_name = Bing
server_url = http://dev.virtualearth.net/REST/v1/Imagery/Metadata/Aerial?include=ImageryProviders&output=xml&key=Arzdiw4nlOJzRwOz__qailc8NiR31Tt51dN2D7cm57NrnceZnCpgOkmJhNpGoppU
32017-10-16 00:08:12 UTCvelmyshanovnyi Copyright © 2017 Microsoft and its suppliers. All rights reserved. This API cannot be accessed and the content and any results may not be used, reproduced or transmitted in any manner without express written permission from Microsoft Corporation.
42017-10-16 00:12:28 UTCvelmyshanovnyi Hello
I'm waiting for your apologies for blocking.... ))))
52017-10-16 00:16:04 UTCvelmyshanovnyi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrology
Hydrology subdivides into surface water hydrology, groundwater hydrology (hydrogeology), and marine hydrology. Domains of hydrology include hydrometeorology, surface hydrology, hydrogeology, drainage-basin management and water quality, where water plays the c...
62017-10-16 08:13:05 UTCNakaner The wiki page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments explains what good changeset comments are and you are expected to use good changeset comments.
12017-10-15 22:16:17 UTCSomeoneElse This change, unlike the others by this account, actually seems plausible!
12017-10-15 18:43:53 UTCSomeoneElse Whilst I can understand why you've merged the wikipedia links of the NK region node into one, are you sure that (a) the content of the pages was actually the same and (b) the content of the one that you're now linking to (the AZ one) is neutral enough to be acceptable to the locals, who see themselv...
12017-10-15 12:14:28 UTCSomeoneElse It would help if you used English instead of saying things like "for auto-detected data problems, like disambigs and lists". Not everyone is familiar with wikibabble.
12017-10-15 12:11:53 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Should http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=98200263 be called the River Severn still? It had its name removed in this changeset - just wondering why.
Best Regards,
Andy
12017-10-14 12:40:00 UTCSomeoneElse Which was the duplicate way that got removed here?
12017-10-02 17:25:24 UTCyaugenka Jay May, my changes did not delete the previous data, whereas your reverting messed everthing up! There are now duplicate data. If you are doing reverting, do it wisely!
22017-10-02 17:51:43 UTCyaugenka I do not mind if you put the previous "name:* values but please be kind to correct the mess and restore the new values I added.
32017-10-03 16:48:12 UTCJay May The values you added were wrong. The only thing called „Hudahaj” is the train station. Those villages are called „Stancyja Hudahaj” and „Maly Hudahaj” respectively. Why should I restore wrong data if I’ve been there a couple of times, the latest of which was...
42017-10-03 17:33:39 UTCyaugenka Read this document from the district's government website:
http://ostrovets.grodno-region.by/uploads/files/000225_408421__selskij_ispolnitelnyj_komitet.doc

I moved the values from "name" tags into "alt_name" tags and put names from the document into the "name" tags....
52017-10-04 09:10:07 UTCJay May Your threat of reporting the above to the DWG is absolutely ridiculous given the fact you are the one who has been reverting my changes without/before even asking why I made them, and thus you brought more confusion. Your behavior is contrary to the good practice of OSM, which pretty much puts your ...
62017-10-04 12:41:55 UTCSomeoneElse Er - I'm confused...
That document appears to be a document in Russian listing some village and settlement names in Russian. It merely confirms that these places have Russian names (which no-one disagrees with) as well as Belarusian names (which in this region I'm sure no-one disagrees with either...
72017-10-04 17:51:28 UTCyaugenka @SomeoneElse, that is exactly the case which we were explaning to everyone in defence of Russian names in the "name" tags - almost all offical documents and maps are in Russian language.
This document is on the govenment website, govenment exacutive authority of the Ostivetskiy disctrict ...
82017-10-04 18:57:00 UTCSomeoneElse @yaugenka As I said, no one doubts that these places have BE and RU names. What I was asking about was your change of e.g. http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=1286803731 to lose the "Станция" part of the name (regardless of language).
Separately to that, from looking at htt...
92017-10-04 19:33:21 UTCyaugenka @SomeoneElse, I'm not argueing about the use of the languigies right now. I just explained that regardless of that the document is in Russian it is an official one.
The official name of the both settlesments is "Гудогай" without the "Малый" and "Станция&q...
102017-10-04 20:02:57 UTCSomeoneElse It's perfectly possible for 2 settlements (with different names) to be part of one larger admin area - I live in a place exactly like that myself.
112017-10-04 20:15:29 UTCSomeoneElse Also - on the "official languages" point, there are many places in OSM where the "official" language isn't the one used by people and on signs locally, and as per http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesInformation.pdf it's the language used by people and o...
122017-10-04 20:41:06 UTCyaugenka Sorry, I do not quite understand why we are discussing the use of language here. How is it related to the difference between "Станция Гудогай" and "Гудогай".
132017-10-04 21:07:25 UTCyaugenka You can also look up the names in the official registry of settlements at http://maps.by/searchate
Here is a screenshot from there
https://www.awesomescreenshot.com/image/2866539/17f558f07c38fa35fd106b9e0650c342
142017-10-04 21:22:17 UTCyaugenka If we talk just about the use of these names, then try to search for "Станция Гудогай" or "Малый Гудогай" on the web and you will get "п. Гудогай" and "д. Гудогай" instead, like on this wiki page
https://ru.wikipedia....
152017-10-05 11:16:56 UTCJay May If the values are wrong, I still don't see what I should keep them as they were.
I've corrected many mistakes on OSM where the ending was not the proper one or the name was wrong (just as in this case). I haven't seen districts of one locality signed whatsoever. For instance, Bialkiški use...
162017-10-05 17:31:44 UTCyaugenka I'm greatfull for your contributions but mapping settlements from signs is not enough. The reality is constantly changing. Some settlements get annexed by larger ones or become independent or are renamed or cease to exist at all. And road signs are always going behind these changes.
For example, Bi...
172017-10-05 18:23:12 UTCSomeoneElse > So one must always double check it
> with the official registry.
I can't comment about Belarus directly but "What people refer to a place and how they classify it" and "how something is treated officially" are often very different in OSM. In most places the former get...
182017-10-05 19:13:21 UTCyaugenka There is not a single settlement with "admin" tag in Belarus. All settlements are mapped with "place" tag and correspond to official registry. The prority of mapping for us is actually the law, then the registry and then the signs. Because first comes an official act (e.g. about ...
192017-10-06 06:24:36 UTCJay May Bialkiški was marked as a neighborhood by myself :)
There is one thing I noticed in Belarus (very similar to Lithuania and to Ireland): ZIP codes seem not to be used ... Maybe it would be good to find them and map them?
202017-10-06 07:42:37 UTCyaugenka Bialkiški was marked as a neighborhood by myself :)
xm.. the history says it different
http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=6910214
http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=242995527
212017-10-06 08:19:14 UTCJay May Ah, rightttt. Looks like this Georgij also knows about this.
However, I am the one who created the relation between Bialkiški and Astraviec.
You are welcome to have a look if I did it the right way.
222017-10-06 16:22:39 UTCyaugenka Not quite. It would be correct if the area of Bialkiški was outside Astraviec. Astraviec would then consist of two separate polygons like in this example
http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1996913.
But Bialkiški is within Astraviec, i.e. one polygon is within another and this will...
232017-10-07 20:20:52 UTCyaugenka I have fixed the alt_name*s of Гудогай by myself and submitted a request to our state authority to provide the name of the official act according to which the names were officially changed.
242017-10-09 11:12:01 UTCJay May O.K. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised they are not even aware that those 2 villages have slightly different names ... I'm pretty confident their answer will be very interesting to read.
252017-10-13 16:13:10 UTCyaugenka Here is there answer
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bwqmq6xk-oieRzJfRThiUWNaOURLY3Q3SXFfRW82ZGJEVXUw
They say that the addressing system (which includes the registry) was formally launched in 2012 and the villages have always been named in the registry as "п. Гудогай" and &quo...
262017-10-13 18:49:21 UTCSomeoneElse However, the law doesn't affect how we generally map stuff in OSM - it's what's on the ground that matters.
Don't just take my word for it, either - here's an answer to a similar question elsewhere: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2017-October/017990.html .
272017-10-13 19:10:11 UTCyaugenka I understand the on the ground rule and do not insist on changing the name right now but they may and are likely to correct the sign soon. Is anyone going to travel there from time to time to track the change for the map to stay up to date?
282017-10-13 19:30:26 UTCSomeoneElse > Is anyone going to travel there from time to time to track the change for the map to stay up to date?
To be honest, it's how I keep stuff up to date where I live. Obviously (as Canadians on OSM lists point out regularly) that's less applicable to places with a significantly lower population d...
292017-10-13 19:58:47 UTCJay May I will be there in a week or two.
About what you mentioned above on the ground rule regarding India: English has been chosen despite being a minority language because it is a language that is displayed in every roadsign, no matter the language of the province. Same for Ireland or the non-Brussels b...
302017-10-13 20:33:54 UTCyaugenka Imagine your need to make a business trip to this village and got a ticke to "п. Гудогай" - that is the name which is used in all documents and on the web. So you search for that name on the map but don't find any because on the map it is named "Станция Гудогай&q...
312017-10-14 10:38:54 UTCJay May ...and then they arrive on-spot and see „Станцыя Гудагай” written in Belarusian, which makes them really wonder what exactly is wrong with those names ... Neither the language, neither the full name correspond. „Что сделать...”
322017-10-14 11:24:35 UTCSomeoneElse For info, there's a widely-used tag for the "official name" of places: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/official_name .
332017-10-14 11:37:39 UTCyaugenka What is the sense of introducing one extra tag when 99.99% of names correspond to official ones and the remaing 0.01% is a \tneglect of the authorities who did not change the sign properly?
342017-10-14 11:40:20 UTCSomeoneElse Feel free to corretc me with actual numbers, but my impression so far is that a _very high percentage_ of names in OSM in BE don't match the names on the signs. One of the arguments put forward was that they are official names.
352017-10-14 11:43:44 UTCyaugenka >my impression so far is that a _very high percentage_ of names in OSM in BE don't match the names on the signs.
Can you give some examples apart from "Гудогай" where the names mismatch?
362017-10-14 11:55:11 UTCSomeoneElse Well, the DWG was sent lots of photographs of roadsigns and placenames in BE that in OSM are mapped in RU.
372017-10-14 12:16:46 UTCyaugenka We are not talking about the use of languages here, are we? This discussion is only about the correspondence of signs to official names. Both russian and belarusian names are official.
382017-10-16 05:53:16 UTCJay May I wouldn't say "What is the sense of introducing one extra tag when 99.99% of names correspond to official ones". Given the number of wrong names I corrected on the Belarusian soil, I would say up to 80% of the names do correspond .Let alone the language question - many times the name in R...
392017-10-16 07:59:48 UTCyaugenka >I would say up to 80% of the names do correspond
Please provide examples of the 20%.
402017-10-16 11:50:19 UTCJay May I've changed so many of them that now I won't remember everything :) Those Belarusian toponyms I had to change were mainly names with "-ызна" finishing with "-ына" in reality and the other way round (a lot of them), Янава called Янова officially (and other such n...
412017-10-16 17:03:18 UTCyaugenka >Янава called Янова officially.
The first one is in Belarusian the second one is in Russaion. So you are mixing languauges here.
>names with "-ызна" finishing with "-ына" in reality
Provide exact examples please.
>Валейкішкі on roadsigns / ...
12017-10-07 22:35:01 UTCChrissW-R1 Partial reversion of https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/51305204
22017-10-14 09:33:20 UTCSomeoneElse For info, the last time there was a discussion about this the comments included https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2016-August/019125.html . It's going to get broken again (it's too big to manage effectively, as noted in https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2016-August/0...
12017-10-14 01:40:45 UTCSomeoneElse Unfortunately, wikidata generally speaking isn't a valid source for OSM - it's mostly just copied from wikipedia which has an licence that is incompatible with OSM.
It's unclear how wikidata was used here, however, since there's no wiki* tag on this node.
Regardless of that, any "tagfiddling&...
22017-10-14 01:43:17 UTCnyuriks SomeoneElse, I think you are fixated. What is this has to do with Wikidata? I lived in St. Petersburg
32017-10-14 01:53:08 UTCSomeoneElse "created_by=OSM+Wikidata 0.1"
42017-10-14 02:08:59 UTCnyuriks and? That's the tool name.
52017-10-14 08:30:24 UTCSomeoneElse You've added no source for the data and used a "created_by" tag that looks like it might be a source. That's why I said "It's unclear how wikidata was used here" (please do actually read the comments that people make).
It may be that you live locally and believe that the curren...
12017-10-13 18:43:40 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
I think that this change might have included rather more objects than anticipated (including some not previously edited by andygol), such as https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/420984991/history
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-10-13 19:09:05 UTCAlan Bragg Thanks for your comment. I'll verify all the changes. This one was not by andygol but has the same problem and needs area=yes.
32017-10-13 19:32:42 UTCSomeoneElse There were also examples such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/374923973/history which were previously mapped as area:highway.
42017-10-13 19:49:39 UTCAlan Bragg Yes, that one is ok. This area:highway=pedestrian or footway all seem to have cropped up in 2015. I was wondering why they did not render and got an answer from scai https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/60067/why-are-some-pedestrian-areas-not-rendering I'm attempting to fix the problems in the ...
52017-10-13 20:19:42 UTCSomeoneElse For completeness (and apologies if I'm stating the bleeding the obvious here), an "area:highway" is fundamentally different to a "highway; area=yes". Usually it won't make sense to change either the latter to the former or the former to the latter. There is at least one rendere...
62017-10-13 20:42:47 UTCAlan Bragg Yes, thanks, I do understand. andygol had changed all highway=pedestrian area=yes to area:highway=pedestrian which caused all plaza type areas in the USA to become black holes in the map. I've been following this note "Note on area=yes
Don't use area:highway=* for plazas and similiar features....
12017-10-13 18:45:14 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks for this!
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-10-13 22:29:57 UTCfreebeer Pity that these reverts don't seem to have lasted long.
(Kids these days. Why, when I was young...)
(me wonders what the highest revision number is in OSM and if this is an attempt to top that)
12017-10-13 05:37:30 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap,
Please don't add fake data to OSM (there isn't an embassy on the M1 just north of the Derby Road bridge - people would have noticed it).
By all means please add things that aren't currently mapped and really do exist - but don't make things up.
Best Regards,
A...
12017-10-12 16:01:36 UTCSomeoneElse Er, what? This is in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
22017-10-12 16:02:35 UTCSomeoneElse Ce changement est dans l'océan Atlantique.
32017-10-12 23:26:01 UTCAbdelali BOUSSIB Il y aurait sûrement un changement de coordonnés merci pour votre attention
12017-10-12 13:58:56 UTCHarald Hartmann Hello SomeoneElse. At
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5157855483
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5157855481
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5157855484
you have created the new lifecycle-prefix `broken`. Could it also be `demolished`?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:demolished:
22017-10-12 14:52:57 UTCSomeoneElse No, it's not demolished, it's just broken.
32017-10-12 14:55:07 UTCHarald Hartmann Ok. ;-)
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=broken
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=damaged
12017-10-12 12:09:26 UTCSomeoneElse Currently the "Art School Restaurant" is in the middle of a road - presumably that's not really where it is?
22017-10-12 12:22:29 UTCArt School Restaurant It is just to the right of the icon, that's the closest it would go but that is the correct spot on Sugnall Street. Albeit not in the middle of the road, rather dangerous for dining. Thanks for spotting it, we will endeavour to shift the icon to the right.
12017-10-11 12:22:54 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
I think you've accidentally included some test data in here (you can see if you look at https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52809865 that your change stretches all the way down from Canada to mid-Atlantic, where the test data such as "Purple Street"...
12017-09-14 09:06:32 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Just for info I've tidied up edits in this area by http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/higuy and http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/helloworld69 . I've suggested to those users that they might want to try OpenGeoFiction instead http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1478 http://www.openstreetma...
22017-10-11 06:41:25 UTCSomeoneElse ... and also just for info, http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1561 (I reverted the two changes by that user).
12017-10-10 22:07:36 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Miles,
Did you obtain a waiver to use the data here under the ODBL? As published at https://www.data.brisbane.qld.gov.au/data/dataset/road-restrictions/resource/6b01de54-d739-4116-8e33-e58efc2b78e3 it seems to be CC-BY-4.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0 and as such not licence-co...
22017-10-10 23:54:04 UTCTheSwavu https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.brisbane.qld.gov.au_explicit_permission
12017-08-17 19:40:55 UTCØukasz hello

you deleted a lot of tags from Jalala - why?
22017-08-17 19:48:30 UTCØukasz also Hanakin tags are deleted
32017-10-10 19:37:20 UTCSomeoneElse Hello ڕاستی,
In this change you removed a lot of different language name tags from https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/248436981/history , including the Arabic one.
Can you explain why?
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend,
on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group
42017-10-10 19:38:08 UTCSomeoneElse You can see the changes here:
http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=248436981
12017-09-11 20:24:41 UTCconfusedbuffalo Looks good to me (from a distance).
My only query is on the three paths in Walton Park that you edited, changing them from track to footway, they all have the note "No longer in use", which was added in 2015 when the footway tag was removed. If they are in fact in use, it seems to me that...
22017-10-10 11:16:57 UTCSomeoneElse If it's paths like https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/106343780/history , they come and go - it depends on whether the grass has been cut recently and how wet the ground is. I haven't been through there this year, so can't really comment on what the current situation is.
12017-10-10 10:34:07 UTCSomeoneElse Just checking - is https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/530972231 really a separate road to the A38? I thought it was just a right turn lane separated by chevrons (as per the imagery)? I know that some other sections are fairly separated (e.g. by the garage) but thought that this wasn't?
22017-10-13 11:39:21 UTCSK53 Yeah, fairly marginal. There is an island separating the turn lane from straight on. Don't think there are turn restrictions though. I was meaning to add the unrestricted speed limit from the M1 roundabout :-)
12017-10-09 15:50:17 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
I think something's gone wrong with this data - it you have a look at https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=potlatch2&way=531258403#map=17/18.48038/-66.82619 you can see that there's a lot of duplication of uploaded nodes, many nodes aren't part of any ot...
22017-10-10 09:09:13 UTCToeBee This changeset has been reverted by changeset 52781929
12017-10-06 13:54:39 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks - that now appears at e.g. https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=18&lat=53.167006&lon=-1.39344 .
12017-10-05 20:12:43 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
You've added https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5142606995 here, but you might want to add a bit more detail other than just the name - if it's the office of a company, you could add an "office=company" tag. In the "iD" editor click on it, an...
12017-10-04 12:35:25 UTCglglgl I wonder what makes you think there is a café in the middle of the ocean?
22017-10-05 20:03:07 UTCSomeoneElse It's not the user's fault - it's a bug in POI+. See https://github.com/davidchiles/osm-poi-editor-iOS/issues/12 .
12017-09-27 21:14:10 UTCtrigpoint Hi, the names you are adding appear to be transliterations which should not be added to OSM. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Avoid_transliteration

Last time I was in Telford or Wellington there were certainly no Russian Names on the signs.

This edit should be reverted.

22017-09-27 23:28:29 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Batareikin,
You've been asked by other mappers many times before to not add transliterations or data from unknown sources - see http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=127299 for details. Please respect the wishes of the community. I'm sure for example that http://www.ope...
32017-09-28 06:10:16 UTCBatareikin Hi trigpoint, Andy Townsend
Если не знаете или забыли, то напомню Вам, что русские топонимы НЕ ТРАНСЛИТЕРИЮТСЯ, а ТРАНСКРИБИРУЮТСЯ! И разницу меду этими понятиями надо понимать...
42017-09-28 15:44:45 UTCSomeoneElse Can you tell me where I can verify that Castle Bytham does indeed have a separate Russian name (as distinct from any transliteration?
52017-09-28 18:14:37 UTCBatareikin SomeoneElse: Конечно могу сказать.
Только Вы опять упоминаете какую-то "any transliteration".
1. Вы разницу между транскрипцией и транслитерацией понимаете?
2. Вы знаете о т...
62017-09-28 19:49:29 UTCSomeoneElse Can you answer the question?

Can you tell me where I can verify that Castle Bytham does indeed have a Russian name?

Anyone can make up a name for any place by any method they like. I could decide that London is actually called Fintlwoodlwix, and create a map showing that. It doesn't, howev...
72017-09-29 06:12:40 UTCBatareikin Я могу ответить на ваш вопрос.
Только сначала Вы попробуйте ответить на мои вопросы.
Тогда может и ваш вопрос отпадет сами собой.

Каждый не сможет "make up " топо...
82017-09-29 08:58:46 UTCSomeoneElse > Но если вы хотите проверить правильность написания например деревни Касл-Байтем, то вам надо зайти в какую-нибудь российскуй библиотеку и взять почитать "Вел...
92017-09-29 09:00:59 UTCSomeoneElse Два момента - во-первых, тот, кто написал это, просто транслитерировал его с английского, а во-вторых, вы импортируете данные из внешнего источника. Прочтите https://wiki.op...
102017-09-29 18:46:26 UTCBatareikin Два момента:
Во первых - НЕ ТРАНСЛИТЕРИРОВАЛ его! И совсем не просто!

Во вторых я ничего НЕ ИМПОРТИРОВАЛ, тем более автоматически! Весь текст на русском я набираю ...
112017-09-29 18:50:44 UTCSomeoneElse Er - no need to shout!
122017-09-29 18:53:35 UTCSomeoneElse > Весь текст на русском я набираю на клавиатуре смартфона.
But where did you copy it from? If it's something like a book, what is the licence?
132017-09-30 12:47:17 UTCBatareikin Я не кричу, я просто делаю акценты на слова, чтобы вы пристально обратили на них внимание и попытались понять смысл всего сказанного мною ранее (курсива или жирного ...
142017-09-30 12:51:33 UTCSomeoneElse > Неужели у вас в Великобритании слово London кому-то принадлежит!? И откуда его скопировали?
А на использование слова Liverpool у вас тоже должна иметься лицензия, чтобы ...
152017-09-30 13:12:55 UTCSomeoneElse > Вы конечно можете не знать, но у нас отдельные слова не являются объектами авторского права. Их нельзя присвоить себе и соответственно нельзя наложить на них огр...
162017-10-05 19:22:28 UTCSomeoneElse Asking again, in case the notification for the previous one somehow got lost:
Please do explain where you found the name "Касл-Байтем", where you copied it from, and what licence applies to that data. Please also explain how I may verify that name the next time that I visit Cast...
172017-10-17 13:05:38 UTCSomeoneElse_Revert This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 53011130 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some names that appear to have been copied from a Russian library book. See block 1591 and changeset 52420815 for the attempt to find out licence details (or where the names may be veri...
182017-10-18 19:22:58 UTCBatareikin Энди Таунсенд
Вам же объяснили что слова сами по себе не являются объектами авторского права. Они не могут облагаться какой либо лицензией. И не могут быть несовме...
12017-09-28 12:14:32 UTCSomeoneElse nyuriks,
You appear to be continuing with this mechanical edit despite being told to stop, and while discussion on the list and at e.g. https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=59910 is still going on. You appear determined to force your views on the OSM community despite the fact that dis...
22017-09-28 19:34:00 UTCnyuriks SomeoneElse, this is becoming a harassing behavior. Where do you see a mechanical edit? This was a single node manual edit.
32017-09-28 20:01:26 UTCSomeoneElse It was submitted 10 seconds after the previous changeset and 20 seconds before the next. That's unfortunately a common behaviour where people want to be seen to be doing "single" edits but in fact are just mechanically changing object after object without doing any sort of checks on what...
42017-09-28 20:16:04 UTCnyuriks Yes. In a group of 10 nodes. Each of which were checked by hand. I know the rules, and despite your accusations, I haven't broken any of them. I specifically studied the mechanical edits policy.
52017-09-28 20:17:02 UTCnyuriks The group was checked, individually. Afterwards, they were uploaded one by one because they appeared in different places of the world.
62017-09-28 21:02:54 UTCSomeoneElse What about previous changes, such as https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52369774 ? Was that a mechanical edit?
72017-09-28 21:05:26 UTCnyuriks Yes they were. They were clearly marked as mechanical (with the word auto). And they followed the rules.
82017-09-28 21:34:34 UTCSomeoneElse > And they followed the rules.

Are you sure? What you're supposed to do is laid out in some detail at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct , including a "Document_and_discuss_your_plans" section. Can you explain how you followed that? As far as I can ...
92017-09-29 01:38:39 UTCnyuriks Which portion of it did I fail to address? Global note, discussion, proceeded. Not a mixed response - every concern was answered on the email channel (except for one email that was not raising any reasonable objection as I later noted), and did not receive any further comment until restarted. If yo...
102017-09-30 11:32:05 UTCSomeoneElse > Which portion of it did I fail to address?
Firstly and most importantly, you were mechanically adding while the discussion was going on, if not before.
In additon to that:
o You did not place your documentation on the wiki.
o You did not " work with [dissenters] to understand their rea...
112017-09-30 11:42:01 UTCSomeoneElse Sorry to have to spell this out in quite such detail above but your comment "Which portion of it did I fail to address" suggests one of two things:
1) A complete failure to understand what other mappers, and OSM documentation, are saying to you.
2) You're just being mendacious. Perhap...
122017-10-01 02:19:21 UTCnyuriks * The discussion was quiet for 4 days
* Every raised point was addressed, as was mentioned in the talk. Several people meticulously answered all of the objections. One objection was un-answerable because it basically claimed something without backing it up. Regardless, I worked very attentively wi...
132017-10-01 11:48:39 UTCSomeoneElse Thank you for finally admitting that yes, you did perform a mechanical edit and that no, you did not follow the documented procedure.
Which were the 4 days on which you claim there was no discussion on "talk" about this?
142017-10-01 17:33:39 UTCnyuriks Serious? The automated edits were marked with the word "auto", and I kept saying I was doing them mechanically after the discussion! You correctly pointed out that I forgot to add the auto/username wiki page, which has already been rectified. This is something you could have told me a ve...
152017-10-01 17:51:08 UTCSomeoneElse > This is something you could have told me a very long time ago, instead of wasting many hours and aggravation.
Lest we forget, a member of the OSM community told you about https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct 12 days ago on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset...
162017-10-01 19:01:47 UTCnyuriks Andy, that article is very long, and only mentions "Automated edits/username" once in middle. Noone has mentioned that specific piece of information until you did yesterday, and I immediately complied. Until I saw it, I was fully convinced I followed all other rules outlined there. It wou...
172017-10-04 13:51:28 UTCSomeoneElse > Andy, that article is very long

I'n sorry, but the text on that page is 10457 bytes in total. Reader mode in FF estimates "10-12 minutes". If you can't be bothered to read that in full then words fail me.
182017-10-04 14:20:39 UTCSomeoneElse Also re "about 4 days" - https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2017-September/078805.html was at "Sat Sep 23 03:15:13 UTC 2017" and the first "auto" changeset seems to be
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52333709 , created at "2017-09-24T17:03:28Z&...
12017-09-26 15:32:28 UTCSomeoneElse Here you added https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2407197?uselang=en-GB to https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/598000917 (which is correct). Are you now going to remove it from https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/957593 which you did in error in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/44200317 which ...
22017-09-26 16:17:25 UTCnyuriks Andy, are you saying that neither Q2407197 nor en:Tibshelf should be attached to rel 957593 ? It the WD item is correct for both - it is both the city and the parish.
32017-09-26 23:37:03 UTCSomeoneElse (re Tibshelf) as of 12 days ago it does now claim to be both a village and a civil parish; only 10 months after you added the wikidata entry to the relation.
Can you guarantee that all similar errors in wikidata have been similarly corrected?
42017-09-27 00:31:05 UTCnyuriks SomeoneElse, I cannot guarantee anything. Ever. I can only attempt to find existing errors in the data and expose them. So far, thanks to my efforts, thousands of major errors have been corrected. As I numerously stated, and you chose to ignore -- wikidata ID is simply a more permanent wikipedia ...
52017-09-27 00:38:23 UTCSomeoneElse > , thanks to my efforts, thousands of major errors have been corrected
You keep saying this. Can you provide a list? I've seen very few fixes to OSM data in these changes.

Also, if wikidata and wikipedia IDs both identify the same object why add both? Just leave the human-readable one in ...
62017-09-27 00:47:22 UTCnyuriks https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Data:Sandbox/Yurik/OSM_objects_pointing_to_disambigs.tab&action=history -- every revision had entries that community fixed. There are many other places, but this is the easiest to show. Lately, people fixed it directly from my service. When first ...
72017-10-02 09:55:12 UTCSomeoneElse Re "every revision had entries that community fixed." I've not sure what that table shows, presumably a "disambig" is a wikipedia thing that we are supposed to know about in OSM? Do you mean wikipedia disambiguation pages where one word can have multiple meanings? My problem wi...
82017-10-03 05:21:01 UTCnyuriks You misunderstood. I used MediaWiki & Commons to store errors that I found in OSM. There were several people who went there to fix uncovered issues. Also, realize that there are plenty of people who gave up arguing - see last discussion https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Yurik Anothe...
92017-10-04 13:39:36 UTCSomeoneElse > There were several people who
> went there to fix uncovered issues. ...
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Yurik
Based on the people who've edited that that'd be 2 people? Also comments there include "I would really advice to stop pushing for worldwide mechanical...
12017-09-27 16:58:52 UTCJohn-O Why `path` as opposed to `footway` ?
From memory there are three cairns in at least one of the locations. They are more like carefully constructed rock pillar than a pile of stones
22017-09-28 00:43:37 UTCgurglypipe See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=path; it’s not urban. Feel free to improve the cairn mapping; I was just fixing the tagging.
32017-09-28 11:43:27 UTCACS1986 Hi,
I agree with John on this.
The fact that a Wiki editor thinks that you should use highway=footway for urban paths doesn't mean that highway=path has to be used for non-urban paths. Choice between 'Classic' (highway=footway/bridleway/cycleway) and 'Alternative' (highway=path) tagging methods ha...
42017-09-29 13:27:49 UTCgurglypipe Ah, this is more complex than I thought. I was just going off the descriptions of highway={footway,path} in iD. I have not verified the path’s access restrictions in person, although given the area they’re probably going to be the same as the shooting track since it’s all moorland ...
52017-09-30 14:09:45 UTCACS1986 Thanks, and you're welcome. Unfortunately there is inconsistency in how these tags are used between countries. It is common in some places (particularly Germany) to use 'footway' for urban paths and 'path' for rural ones and that's probably some of the views in the Wiki and the ID descriptions arise...
62017-10-02 09:20:55 UTCSomeoneElse Just to chime in here, +1 to Adam and John above.
The mailing lists have lots of detail on how highway=path came about when highway=footway etc. already existed, and certainly highway=path is widely used in e.g. Germany for what we would call "a footpath"
If something "looks like so...
72017-10-02 09:27:35 UTCgurglypipe Thanks. Although the fact that the UK seems to rely on all contributors having read the mailing list archive (or asking repeat questions on the mailing list) is somewhat frustrating. That’s really the point of having a wiki.
82017-10-02 09:43:47 UTCSomeoneElse One problem with the wiki (or any wiki) is that it's difficult for it to get across the key points of where there are conflicting views. The "classic vs alternate" table is one of the better examples of doing that, where Harry Wood (I think) spent a lot of time putting it all together.
M...
12017-09-30 06:56:29 UTCWynndale Could you explain what was wrong with the edits you reverted?
22017-10-02 09:28:04 UTCSomeoneElse @Wynndale - for one example see my comment on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52400509 . I suspect that they're creating personal notes in MAPS.ME and are probably not even aware that they're adding data to OSM (in the case of that changeset that I commented on, something that when translat...
12017-09-09 20:47:54 UTCSomeoneElse Hello kr_maps and welcome to OSM!
I already had a go at adding ESC to OSM as https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3800676729 . Maybe that didn't show up in OsmAnd? Not sure about the best tag though - it's not really a shop, and "adult gaming centre" usually used for gambling arcades.
Ch...
22017-09-12 21:12:32 UTCkr_maps Ah yes. Your node doesn't show in OsmAnd but clearly is there really, not sure why considering it was created a while ago. Anyway I will delete the duplicate I made!
32017-10-01 16:25:54 UTCSomeoneElse Just for info, I've changed ESC to "leisure=escape_game" which is in use elsewhere and a much better description. It probably still won't show in OsmAnd, but it should appear at e.g. https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=20&lat=53.2345533&lon=-1.430816 .
12017-09-29 16:19:45 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Not sure how it happened, but this changeset deleted a buoy from the middle of the Atlantic (it's been restored now)
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-09-29 20:52:54 UTCajithkarunaratne Dear Andy,

I'm extremely sorry about the mistake. It's not a deliberate thing. I just tried the "ADD NODE" tool in JOSM for the first time and it made me make a node somewhere else. Then I deleted it believing it was the unintended node made me. That might be the reason for this grave m...
32017-09-29 21:12:43 UTCSomeoneElse No worries - you're not the first person to have been caught out by JOSM's "add node"!
12017-09-29 16:17:50 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks!
12017-09-28 12:25:50 UTCSomeoneElse How can I verify the tag "wikidata=Q4929299" on
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/26421469 ? Strictly speaking, the OSM node isn't the cave itself but the entrance to it (to be fair the cave itself isn't that far away).
Also, geographically this is a huge changeset covering a very lar...
22017-09-28 19:36:21 UTCnyuriks Should 26421469 node have a wikipedia tag? If not, both should be deleted, but it appeared legit enough to stay.
32017-09-28 19:58:28 UTCSomeoneElse It depends how lax you want to be about data linkage. The WP article is about the thing the OSM node links to, so it's useful in that sense, but it's not about the OSM node itself. I don't think that it makes sense to remove the WP link since it's useful information here. If you want to do it p...
12017-09-07 20:57:38 UTCJay May Hello. May I know the reason why you are reverting names?
22017-09-07 21:29:45 UTCLLlypuk82 Hello. Yes, of course. According Закон Республики Беларусь от 16.11.2010 №190-З "О наименованиях географических объектов" (http://pravo.newsby.org/belarus/zakon0/z326.htm) geonames in Belarus are assigned and stored in two lan...
32017-09-07 21:47:10 UTCJay May If I follow your logic, then I should change by default each country/region/village where the majority of the population speaks another language than the one on the roadsigns (for example, I should put Polish in Eastern Lithuania, Russian in Eastern Latvia, Hungarian in Southern Slovakia and to Arab...
42017-09-07 21:50:03 UTCJay May P.S.: Please note even Russian maps Yandex use Belarusian names as the main ones.
52017-09-07 21:59:32 UTCLLlypuk82 Are you sure about Yandex? There is a screenshot https://fotki.yandex.ru/next/users/sanik82/album/419689/view/1443769
62017-09-07 22:06:56 UTCLLlypuk82 You use incorrect analogies. Not simply "the majority of the population speaks another language than the one on the road signs", but majority of the citizens of the Belarus.
72017-09-08 05:07:43 UTCJay May As soon as I am in front of a computer I will post a screenshot of Yandex (I don't know how to post it over here).
Anyway my point is: OSM is not about politics or personal language preference, but about reflecting the reality and so far we were not doing that in Belarus. I drive there every two we...
82017-09-08 06:09:38 UTCAmbush LLlypuk82 OSM is not about language problems of biggest part of country population, it is about reflecting geographical objects in geographical data base. According to law you cited, geographical names assigned in Belarusian, then they are transliterated to Russian because this is the second nation...
92017-09-08 06:20:16 UTCmOlind Agreed. "name" tag is for name as it written on sign. name:ru and name:by could be filled too. To let users choose what name they want to read. Same value inside name and name:by is ok. First tolds us what should we expect to see and second in 100% times in Belarusian.
102017-09-08 06:39:30 UTCJay May Screenshots from what I see from my computer on Yandex:
- In English: https://plus.google.com/u/1/photos/116538206482963449572/album/6463292506880436433/6463292504796189858?authkey=CPHviqDkqcGDfw
- In Russian: https://plus.google.com/u/1/photos/116538206482963449572/album/6463292506880436433/64632...
112017-09-08 07:27:39 UTCГеоргий Ильин Напишу по-Английски ))
@Jay May, thank you for highlighting this in pm. I will reply later.
@LLlypuk82: please understand that this is not against Russian language ))) We have to leave the Russian name, but only in the name:ru tag (unless it appears in Russian on-spot, like for in...
122017-09-08 15:25:14 UTCJaŭhien For example Google Maps https://i.imgur.com/V2SFlRN.png use the names of cities, villages and etc in Belarusian language and łacinka. Google have many users on the world, but all ok for tourists and the population of the country
132017-09-08 16:51:07 UTCyaugenka @Jay May, if you visit Belarus and ask people for directions, you will hardly get a reply in Belarussian language anywhere. That it the reality of our countly and the name tag must reflect that realy. If somebody wants to have names displayed in Belarussian they are free to use the name:be tag which...
142017-09-08 17:31:05 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo The main argument is the signs of the names of cities and towns that the driver sees. Seen by the driver, should be in the name. The remaining arguments (the internal language policy of the government, the language of communication of local residents) is for other mapping projects.

If the Russian...
152017-09-08 18:06:33 UTCyaugenka The "group of people who contradict the principle of "on-ground"" signs comprize 74% of the pupulation of the country. By introducting this change you would abuse the primary users of OSM Belarus - the citizens of the country.
162017-09-08 19:08:58 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo You are plotting with official statistics. 74 percent are the urban population. The rural provincial population - the situation on the contrary - there is approximately the same figure Belarusian-speaking population. So we have parity. Or, in plain language, 50 percent of both languages comes out. Y...
172017-09-08 20:31:35 UTCyaugenka @Poliakoff Mykhailo, can you provide any proves of your statement that both language are used 50/50? Have you ever been in our country at all? I myself come from a village and can assure you that no one is speaking Belarusian there, those 26% are mostly located in big cities. I'm just wondering why ...
182017-09-08 22:08:19 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo In the project's argument is banners/signs/names of settlements. The argument about who what morvoû talks is not the main one. Map of what is done for turitìv. With the tourist will communicate the convenient to him. You do not mind that the plaques with the names of Belarusian. So then...
192017-09-08 23:05:25 UTCyaugenka Your suggestion to have two names in one one tag is out of this topic. We are now talking about replacement of russian names by belarusian ones.
The number of local people using the map for business and leisure is by far bigger than the number of foreign tourists and regardless of what is written o...
202017-09-09 12:52:43 UTCAmbush yaugenka: one more time: Ground Truth rule is not about local traditions and preferences, it's about Ground Truth. And OSM is not a local Belarusian project. It's world wide. So you can't sacrifice billions of planet Earth people to a couple of millions citizens of one little country.
212017-09-09 12:58:38 UTCyaugenka @ambush, it is the question of number of users, not population.
222017-09-09 13:28:46 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo Yaugenka care less on rules and on the arguments. To him, the main thing that the Russian language everywhere won the Belarusian language. The victory should be by humiliation, discrimination of the Belarusian language. His pattern of behavior in these discussions it confirms absolutely.

232017-09-09 14:54:35 UTCyaugenka @Poliakoff Mykhailo, if you visit Belarus and talk to people you will hardly find anyone talking against the Belarusian language and me is not an exception. You guys are giving favor to foreign tourist, whereas I defent the interest of local people nation-wide, not just some minority.
242017-09-09 14:59:44 UTCmOlind I think yaugenka just misses main point. There is no negative effect for russian speaking users. Because most applications let users to change language. Open openstreetmap.by and check it yourself. There is no single reason to keep russian instead belarussian in name tag. Only because it's easier to...
252017-09-09 15:02:24 UTCAmbush Guys, according to what we discussed here and in personal mail I've reverted this reverting changeset. For me it's a very strange situation to discuss should we follow main OSM rules for Belarus or not. I want to propose to ask DWG to help us if we can't find satisfying decision.
262017-09-09 15:25:49 UTCLLlypuk82 OK. What will you propose for situation when road signs have bilingual (or more) inscriptions?
272017-09-09 20:31:38 UTCJay May - Village, town and city names: name:* in Belarusian only.
- Street signs: this is the tricky part. In Minsk or Brest, the situation is clear (official street signs are all in Belarusian). However, there are some towns or villages without any official street signs, just the name on the street (usua...
282017-09-09 22:24:13 UTCyaugenka Can anyone tell the purpose of the name tag in general? is it just for putting sign info into it and remain them whenever signs get changed?
292017-09-10 08:13:05 UTCJay May The "name=*" tag in general is to show what is written on the road, street or shop signs, whatever it is.
302017-09-10 13:07:23 UTCAmbush I agree with Jay May. And I want to say that if someone see the name at the road sign in Russian, he can ask local authorities to fix it according to cited law.
312017-09-10 19:32:30 UTCyaugenka What are your aguments for renaming according to the on-ground rule except for "just because it is common convention"?
322017-09-10 20:30:58 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo Скажыце калі ласка, калі вы рэгістраваліся ў дадзеным праекце вы гатовыя былі паважаць правілы праекта падабаюцца ці не падабаюцца яны вам? Тым у што ваша пытанне з...
332017-09-11 18:50:12 UTCyaugenka @Poliakoff Mykhailo,
I stop any communication with you because are not following the conversation and are making provoking comments.

@Jay May, @Ambush, @mOlind, @Григорий Ильин, @Jaŭhien,
Here are our main arguments against the change.
1. There are no official up-to-date printed ...
342017-09-11 20:17:31 UTCГеоргий Ильин My name is Георгий, not Григорий )))) Moreover, I see no provocation from Poliakoff Mykhailo, just emotions. Anyway, guys, please don't get personal (both yaugenka and Mykhailo). Let's keep this discussion calm and constructive.
About your arguments:
1) This doesn't change the fact ...
352017-09-11 21:32:45 UTCyaugenka @Георгий Ильин, first let me apologies for the mistyped name. Secondly, let me clarify the points.
Whatever language you select in your settings you will still get the name from "name" tag displayed on http://www.openstreetmap.org and in editors. I think there is no need to ex...
362017-09-11 22:06:05 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo (@Poliakoff Mykhailo,
I stop any communication with you because are not following the conversation and are making provoking comments.
@Jay May, @Ambush, @mOlind, @Григорий Ильин, @Jaŭhien, )
Согласно сложившейся практики ведения дискуссии ...
372017-09-12 00:09:53 UTCyaugenka @Mykhailo, you already can be banned for changing the data and open calls to continue changing the data while the discussion is still going on.
The above mentioned official internet resource can freely be used for validation. Can you name any alternatives in the Belarusian language?
382017-09-12 05:37:30 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo (you already can be banned for changing the data and open calls to continue changing the data while the discussion is still going on.)- продублируйте на русском , агнлийский язык для меня совсем чужой , а в переводе Гугл и Майк...
392017-09-12 07:59:25 UTCyaugenka @Mykhailo,
1. you was writing in Enlish very well previously, so the statement that you don't understand English is a cheat.
2. the statement that official sources cannot be relied on is absolutely illogical. The same thing about replying on wikipedia.
3. it is a shame to here from an attorney th...
402017-09-12 09:57:40 UTCmavl Hello all.

> The local convention for using Russian language in the "name" tag exists from the very beginning of the osm project...

yaugenka, does OSM wiki contain this convention?

Vladimir Marshinin
Data Working Group
412017-09-12 14:21:44 UTC4004 While most of you here provide convincing arguments in favour of name:be->name, yaugenka is correct in pointing out name:be tags don't even cover some areas. Belarusian OSM community has long wanted/struggled to do the switch, but it would leave a map in disarray and possibly introduce challenges...
422017-09-12 15:46:19 UTCJay May @4004: all transition periods have their own issues and there is no problem without any solution ;) Poliakoff Mykhailo seems to know a lot on a similar case: neighboring Ukraine. Anyway, on such technical details I prefer reading your propositions because I'm not as good as you guys yet. But some ...
432017-09-12 17:39:50 UTCAmbush And there is not a problem if there will be different languages in name (for objects which haven't name:be filled) because whole OSM name's on the planet are in different languages. If it just haven't any Belarusian alternative, it'll be left in Russian.
442017-09-12 18:08:37 UTCLLlypuk82 @mavl
Здесь говорится о соглашении 2009 года:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Belarus:Map_languages
452017-09-12 19:36:44 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo You must understand that the further delay matters more complicated will be the solution. Take the similar project of Google, there is a fairly well is in difficulties, you're specifying, the Belarusian version of the map. And done it all for the year and a half: Belarusian street caused caused by...
462017-09-12 23:22:29 UTCyaugenka @Mykhailo, you are again trying to mislead the discussion. The main argument in defence of this change is that our local convention contradicts the common rule of the on-the-ground signs.
If we start following the common rule it will not be a Belarusian map. It will be a mixture of Belarusian and R...
472017-09-13 04:37:10 UTCmavl > Здесь говорится о соглашении 2009 года...

LLlypuk82, thank you very much for it.

> in disputed areas, the name that must appear is the one on the sign

See also [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disputes]

Belarus is the stable cou...
482017-09-13 06:32:59 UTCГеоргий Ильин A disputed area it is not necessarily an area where there is an ongoing war or that is politically unstable.
A disputed area in OSM is also an area where not everyone agrees on the language that should be displayed, and it is the case of Belarus. It is also the case of some regions in stable count...
492017-09-13 06:54:52 UTCJay May Wow guys, this discussion is really active :D As I'm not getting the notifications on my email, I am always amazed when I enter this thread.
Let us be clear once again (sorry if I repeat what was written a couple of times):
a) As a couple of us pointed out, the agreement shown above violates the m...
502017-09-13 07:36:34 UTCГеоргий Ильин Yes )))) We are active ))) But I find it is not fair that 2 people are slowing the whole process while we had been discussing these matters for months and we had agreed on making the Belarus map realistic. To me they can be helpful on the technical part, but overall the decision has been made and it...
512017-09-13 08:15:23 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo A result of our discussion is checking for durability of основообразующего principle of project of on ground/ Ancient римляны to our era created wisdom integrity is stopped up in that . A law is severe, but it is a law. In the original of dura lex sed lex. On the observance o...
522017-09-13 08:36:39 UTC4004 >Belarus is the only former USSR country where the use of Russian has increased. That is a matter of fact. However, all toponyms are in Belarusian
This is (perhaps sadly) not always the case. If you transit/travel through Belarus you might get the impression that Belarusian is indeed used univer...
532017-09-13 09:04:17 UTCJay May @4004: the majority of us agreed on switching the name tag to Belarusian and to check whether the name:ru tag is filled. This is for toponyms, monuments, and administrative levels (when you travel into Belarus), you see clearly written "Мінская воблсасць" and not "Ми...
542017-09-13 09:29:10 UTC4004 @Jay May
>for toponyms, monuments, and administrative levels
This should work fine for admin levels (100% bilingual I believe). Toponyms will need some work (last figure I've seen was around 70%?), while monuments is debatable, but alas.
Indeed, at the time the convention was agreed there was ...
552017-09-13 10:09:15 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo @4004 Monuments are low-level edits. We are now discussing the high-level amendments-human settlements. In Ukraine, monuments of Soviet time survived also in Russian. But they did not become a hindrance to ukrainization even in the Russian-speaking territories of Ukraine. Monuments, I guess not so m...
562017-09-13 10:17:37 UTCJay May @Poliakoff Mykhailo - Your point is good. You mention the ў, it is usually automatically transliterated automatically into "y" instead of "ŭ" when you switch to another language than Russian. This is why it is extremely important not to forget to transliterate into Latin in the...
572017-09-13 10:31:17 UTC4004 It certainly will look similar, at least at first.
@Poliakoff Mykhailo if we are talking technical points now, such a switch would introduce challenges not only for those without a "ў"-supporting keyboard, but also those confused by 2 languages used side-by-side in similar contexts, be i...
582017-09-13 11:41:32 UTCJay May @4004 Anyway, nobody is trying to Belarusize business names ;) And about monuments, I had included it for 2 reasons:
- they are always shown in Belarusian on roadsigns
- On those monuments you usually have some sign with the word "каштоўнасць" ("monument" if I'm not ...
592017-09-13 12:32:52 UTCmOlind I vote for automatic process. It's easy to break things when manually changing ways and relations.
602017-09-13 12:35:39 UTCJay May Given what mOlind just mentioned, I also vote for an automatic process.
612017-09-13 13:46:21 UTC4004 @Jay May I believe you might've mixed up monuments (which include Lenin statues and the like) with historical/touristy places, like castles etc. Different things, certainly the historical pois (especially the important/popular ones) would usually have a name:be as well.
Regarding the switch, automa...
622017-09-13 13:52:19 UTCJay May Proofreading is always easier than reading ;) So it is a good solution to make it automatically and switch. Especially that people like Georgij or me are not proficient in some OSM matters yet (like that addr tag)
632017-09-13 14:14:03 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo I'm for the automatic

Then 2-3 days and on the map will be the Belarusian language. When it appears you will be able to click through all the settlements. To correct to the Belarusian language name: prefix addr: district addr province Also I ask to approve the name tag: en where the name of objec...
642017-09-13 14:16:49 UTCJay May My opinion is that the English tag in that standard would be O.K., but the int_name tag should be in Belarusian Łacinka.
652017-09-13 15:33:07 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo The result should be reported on the page of the communities of neighboring countries and DWG.
662017-09-14 08:30:08 UTC4004 a forum topic needs to be started on this, and approval from DWG would be nice, before doing anything
672017-09-14 09:03:56 UTC4004 int_name is already filed correctly, in accordance with http://www.pravo.by/pdf/2007-159/2007-159%28027-028%29.pdf
682017-09-14 09:59:23 UTCJay May O.K.guys. As soon as you start, please provide the link
692017-09-14 11:13:21 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo I will finalize now the Khotsinsk raion then along the border with the Russian Federation, then the area to the north of the Khotsinsk raion.
702017-09-14 11:23:46 UTC4004 I would propose we wait until there is an agreement on how and when to proceed, and do not attempt anything before that
712017-09-14 11:26:40 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo how to do the proposed example http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25076922
722017-09-14 11:45:47 UTC4004 aren't you rushing a bit Mykhailo? No agreement has been reached, no DWG approval granted, and it was supposed to be centralized and auto, no "regional tests"
732017-09-14 12:29:56 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo This format I provided earlier in this discussion. Therefore, we are informed. If something causes you suspicion, express ideas.
742017-09-14 12:34:14 UTCAmbush At the ByOSM Telegram chat we decided to have a meeting to discuss all the technical details, tools and other before doing any automated changes.
Welcome everyone who wants to join this discussion, t.me/byosm
752017-09-14 12:35:08 UTC4004 "We" might be informed, but this is not enough to start implementing changes, and certainly not by doing it on your own in one place.
"Мы" тут, может быть, и в курсе, но этого недостаточно, чтобы начинать что-то меня...
762017-09-14 12:51:47 UTC4004 @Ambush could the osm forum be a better place?
772017-09-14 12:53:16 UTCLLlypuk82 You are welcome http://openstreetmap.by/
782017-09-14 12:57:09 UTC4004 that's the renderer that uses name:be if it exists
792017-09-15 00:41:52 UTCyaugenka Until it is completely agreed to change the current local convention, it must be observed! All changes have been reverted.
802017-09-15 06:26:42 UTCГеоргий Ильин Jaugenka, I've just gone through the threads of various discussions this morning and you wrote "ничего не трогаем" ("we don't touch anything"). Thus, nobody allowed you to revert any changes, especially given the fact other multilingual names and wikipedia data hav...
812017-09-15 06:33:21 UTCJay May Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?????????????????? Jauhenka deleted all the changes we had all made from the very beginning! As you said Georgij, multilingual changes, but even road changes!
I was Jauhenka was a reasonable person, but I'm afraid what one of the guys told me is right: he is just trying to gain ...
822017-09-15 07:45:59 UTCyaugenka Fist of all, all of you were warned several times in this thread not to make any changes while the discussion is going on. Secondly, for now only renamings of settlements and admin boundaries have been reverted. I'm yet to analyse what else you have renamed.
832017-09-15 07:49:00 UTCmOlind Вот только не надо брать на себя святую миссию все откатывать. Это сильно пахнет вандализмом и может закончится баном. Я не оправдываю тех, кто полез переименовыват...
842017-09-15 07:54:17 UTCmOlind Как я вижу ситуацию на настоящий момент: Переименование будет. Будет по всей стране и в автоматизированном режиме. Ни одно название на русском не пострадает. Все бу...
852017-09-15 07:55:03 UTCmOlind Кто очень хочет начать переименовывать - вносите name:be, где их нету. Они не потеряются и будут использованы в последующем для name.
862017-09-15 08:58:28 UTCJay May @yaugenka: O.K. There is an enormous confusion here with people asking to change manually while people discuss about changing automatically, people asking to wait for the automatic change, and people who don't want any change. Nevertheless, that doesn't change the fact that no one gave you the autho...
872017-09-15 09:45:17 UTC4004 >Кто очень хочет начать переименовывать - вносите name:be, где их нету. Они не потеряются и будут использованы в последующем для name
+1 to that (your app is nice btw).
Translation: those who want ...
882017-09-15 10:07:33 UTC4004 Oh, and here is a translation checker
http://latlon.org/~alex73/vulicy.html
892017-09-15 14:32:59 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo 4004 : перестаньте пользуясь что не все грамотньіе технически вводить людей в заблуждение. Указанньіе на офруме проблемі являются вьідуманньіми лично Вами. Поповоду...
902017-09-15 14:43:00 UTC4004 @Poliakoff Mykhailo:
вы меня с кем то путаете? я никого в заблуждение не ввожу, и уж точно ничего не придумываю.
последняя ссылка, которую я тут привел - ближе всего, из того, ...
912017-09-15 15:34:59 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo а как делаем -- оставляем name:be-tarask и дублируем в name:be? Или name be-tarask переделываем в name be. при этом надо учитыват ь что здесь одинаково то ест ька кбы транслитерация а сог...
922017-09-15 23:57:27 UTC4004 Всем заинтересованным:
-в первую очередь необходимо проверить, что name=name:ru для будущего перехода автоматом. Если name!=name:ru, проверить какой из вариантов соответствуе...
932017-09-16 13:57:18 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo Есть проблемное село в Хотимском раене Ново-Григорьевка. По белорусски не соотвествует русскому . Искать надо официальное название на белорусском или подтвержден...
942017-09-16 15:37:13 UTCyaugenka @Mykhailo, вам для справки. В одном районе может быть несколько нп с одним названием. Если они отличаются типом (поселок, деревня, снп) то тип нужно обязательно указать в ...
952017-09-16 17:24:43 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo Изучите правки мои в Хоцінскам раёне. Все о чем вы пишите сделано мною изначально кроме сельсовета . Сейчас заново перегребаю район чтоб всем поставить сельсоветы
962017-09-17 17:01:28 UTCyaugenka Всем НП проставлять сельсовет большой надобности нету. Речь только о тех, у которых повторяется название в рамках одного района.
972017-09-18 05:40:27 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo то что вы предлагаете, превратить карту в порнографию. Тег используется или нет. Предстоит много подготовительной работы . И нет времени тратить времени на изучени...
982017-09-18 06:36:40 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo Яугенка всвязи с тем что іВовік занимается занимаеться расизмом ксенофобией и дискриминацией белорусского языка
992017-09-19 21:36:11 UTCyaugenka @Mykhailo, переименовывая addr:* и name:prefix на белорусский вы ломаете существующие программы. Откатывайте свои правки!
1002017-09-20 08:25:34 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo Праблема Беларусі я бачу не ў сферы тэхналогій, у у тым, што ў кіраўніцтве ўсіх інтэрнэт-праектаў сядзяць людзі якія атрымліваюць дадатковыя матэрыяльныя ўзнагаро...
1012017-09-20 08:37:15 UTCmOlind И обсуждение скатилось в флуд. Отписываюсь.
1022017-09-20 09:43:36 UTC4004 собственно как и в телеграме. что то менять никто не договаривался
1032017-09-20 11:48:49 UTCJay May @4004 Which is why I asked for people in Telegram "where are we going" because it is such a mess that it's hard for everyone to get what we should do.
@Mykhailo @Yaugenka - STOP!
1042017-09-20 21:24:13 UTCSomeoneElse Hi all - Andy from the Data Working Group here. A couple have people have mentioned the ongoing arguments about language names in Belarus to us, and we'd like to do what we can to help. Obviously we're somewhat aware of the history here (and I've read the various numbers, some conflicting, on https...
1052017-09-21 06:25:22 UTCJay May Hi Andy.
I've already sent such pics around a week ago. Please ask your colleague Frederik Ramm. In case you need them again, I can send them once more :)
In short, asI had already told, toponyms are usually in Belarusian (cities, towns, villages, rivers, lakes...) while commercial names are most...
1062017-09-21 13:38:55 UTCLLlypuk82 Stop, guys. What about our local agreement which was reached in same time as road signs was already in belorussian?
Nothing is changed still. There is no reason to avoid the agreement. Photos have no sense in this case.
1072017-09-22 05:36:58 UTCJay May The local agreement was perhaps good in a certain context back in 2009. But the context has changed.
1082017-09-24 10:06:56 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo To improve an electronic geographical map ONLY on signboards confirms the Belarussian WIKI-RULE
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Belarus:%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%89%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82_%D0%91%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%...
1092017-09-28 19:34:48 UTCSomeoneElse For info, I've just posted this to the BE forum:

https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=665838#p665838

All feedback (from everyone who hasn't already commented) gratefully received.
1102017-10-01 09:33:27 UTCMaturi0n I think the most important factor here should be what the local OSM community wants. People from other countries (Poland, Ukraine, Russia, etc) shouldn't dictate the Belarusian community which language they use as their main mapping language. If they agreed to use Russian, this should be respected. ...
1112017-10-02 06:07:55 UTCJay May @Maturi0n - I’m aware your heart beats more for the Russian language to be left, but this is not a matter of the local community wanting or not wanting something (and anyway most of the guys who discuss with us do support the Belarusian language or a full ground truth rule). OSM is neither a l...
1122017-10-02 08:33:13 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo Now the rule according to signs "decides at the earth" works or not. Or the precedent which will do to other countries by a push is created, the fact that there is a wish. Especially it is dangerous to territories of the conflicts where the tomahawk of wars of changes is dug. The Belarusia...
1132017-10-02 08:39:52 UTCPoliakoff Mykhailo in Russian Сейчас решаеться правило по знакам "на земле " работает или нет. Или создается прецедент, который будет толчком другим странам делать , то что хочется. О...
12017-09-28 10:07:29 UTCSomeoneElse Hello.
Can you explain what these "viewpoints" that you have added here are?
People have tried and failed to contact you previously about this ( http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=4139826 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1099 ) so please do reply.
Bes...
22017-09-28 10:08:08 UTCSomeoneElse สวัสดี.
คุณสามารถอธิบายว่า "มุมมอง" เหล่านี้ที่คุณได้เพิ่มเข้าไปได้คืออะไร?
ผู้คนพยายามและไม่สามารถติ...
32017-09-28 17:19:47 UTCandi9876 Dear, please not again, reverted aleady.
12017-09-27 11:41:32 UTCSomeoneElse Oops - here I think you've merged a bit of canal into a lock https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/500381672/history so that the ref now applies to a huge length of canal.
12017-09-27 01:09:56 UTCSomeoneElse Er - not only does https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4792387396 not have a Chinese name signed on it the actual name used here ("York Chocolate Factory") is actually incorrect.
12017-09-27 01:05:42 UTCSomeoneElse I've never seen any Chinese signage on McArthur Glen York!
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/56748281
12017-09-27 00:58:25 UTCSomeoneElse The wikipedia and wikidata entries on http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2127054 look like the apply to the whole route (as far as Santiago de Compostela) not just this section of it near Mulhouse.
22017-09-27 01:02:08 UTCnyuriks I agree, and this will be part of the overall cleanup as described at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Improvement_Tasks#Duplicate_tags_on_a_relation_and_its_members - lets discuss it there on the talk page, because discussions on changesets are harder to track and consolidate.
12017-09-27 00:12:28 UTCSomeoneElse If you want to perform a mechanical edit on OSM data then, as pointed out previously, you need to follow https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct . You are not doing this.
22017-09-27 00:15:08 UTCnyuriks SomeoneElse, I think you are not being fair or impartial. I have reviewed every single change in this edit - they are done manually, one by one, not mechanically. This is very different from massive wikidata tag upload.
32017-09-27 00:33:42 UTCSomeoneElse I'd spend a few more characters spent in the comment explaining what you're doing would be helpful, not just "found with tinyurl" (link does not load for me; presumably it needs Javascript).
Explain what the problem is - for example in the case of https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/480708...
42017-09-27 00:38:14 UTCnyuriks Thanks, this is a valid feedback. I should make my comments more detailed.
12016-12-17 13:38:36 UTCSomeoneElse Is the name of 117730 correct? It was last edited by a user who changed it from what I thought it was called.
22017-09-26 23:57:50 UTCSomeoneElse For completeness, I fixed 117730 a while back in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45037487 (the problem was unrelated to this edit, or to wikidata).
12017-09-26 21:41:21 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
The wikidata entry that you added to https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2715516561/history seems to be for the brand, not for this particular object in OSM?
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-09-26 21:44:19 UTCSomeoneElse Also, the bus stop https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4942536695/history has had a wikidata link added to the network operator. Did you not do any basic sanity checking on the data your changing here (how many _bus stops_ have their own wikipedia page, seriously?)
32017-09-26 22:02:25 UTCnyuriks 1) correct - when doing semi-automated changes, it is not a good practice to change multiple things at once, because in case of a mistake, the partially-automated and partially-manual changes are hard to undo (wastes a lot of effort). So step one is to add matching wikidata item, just as described ...
42017-09-26 22:04:36 UTCnyuriks 2) same logic - bus stops should have neither wikipedia nor wikidata tags, but use network:wiki* tags instead. Same thing - now that these objects are trackable, they can be converted to network as well. Performing just one task is much safer for the stability of the data. I can move all bus stops f...
52017-09-26 23:31:16 UTCSomeoneElse Do please ensure that you read and follow https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct before any future mechanical edits. Don't just have a bit of a chat on the talk@ list, ignore all criticism, and do it anyway.
62017-09-27 00:13:31 UTCnyuriks Please be consistent. I plan to fix it as requested in the original comment. The fix is semi-mechanical - I will find all objects that fit criteria, review them and edit them. You are welcome to re-read the talk and participate in the discussion. Also all concerns were answered, with the possible ...
12017-09-25 08:12:33 UTCRom1 Hi, i don't agree with some of these modifications. Example : http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4469858091/history where you added a wikidata tag althought already exists the tag brand:wikidata (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata#brand:wikidata.3D.2A)
Thanks for the corre...
22017-09-25 17:41:33 UTCnyuriks Rom1, I agree - wikidata should not be set for a place of business that is a chain - e.g. Mc Donalds. As discussed in the @talk, this is just the first step that allows rapid search for all such places. The next step is to move all wikipedia and wikidata tags to brand:* for the chains, as well as ot...
32017-09-25 21:12:37 UTCSomeoneElse @nyuriks whereabouts was this mechanical edit discussed?
42017-09-25 21:40:01 UTCnyuriks https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2017-September/078720.html
52017-09-26 00:28:17 UTCSomeoneElse That doesn't say "I'm going to add lots of links that I know are wrong", which is what is being complained about here.

In particular, it doesn't address concerns raised in that thread e.g. at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2017-September/078756.html (incidentally similar...
62017-09-26 05:35:58 UTCnyuriks I have reverted all of the relations and nodes that contained "#" in their "wikipedia" tag. I put together some thoughts on how wikipedia/wikidata should be validated and improved - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Improvement_Tasks
72017-09-26 23:22:46 UTCSomeoneElse You haven't addressed the places where you've added wikidata entries in error; the very first issue raised on this changeset discussion.
82017-09-26 23:34:56 UTCnyuriks SomeoneElse, I posted about it to the @talk about an hour ago, please take a look. Once community agrees that this is ok, I will fix them all. Without it, it would be a partial fix for just a few instances.
12017-09-26 21:22:45 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
On https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/81776419/history you've moved "operator:wikipedia" to "brand:wikipedia". You've said in the changeset comment that "McDonalds is a brand"; but McDonalds runs a mixed franchise model and is the operator of a significant numbe...
22017-09-26 22:07:02 UTCnyuriks I do not, and this might have been a mistake. I will contact the original authors to find out.
12017-09-26 16:07:36 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Fingrmouse and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
I think something's gone a bit wrong at least up near:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/31699323#map=18/53.13117/-1.03334&layers=C
The Southwell Trail relation was composed of several different parts, some of whicj were former railway and some of...
22017-09-26 16:18:11 UTCFingrmouse The Southwell Trail is entirely based on an abandoned railway - there's no section of the trail doesn't run along an old rail route. The main West-Southeast route was part of the Midland Railway and the most northerly section near Bilsthorpe was where it transitioned into LM&SR / LNER routes. Th...
32017-09-26 16:32:51 UTCSomeoneElse The northern bit (just south of the Car park in Bilsthorpe) is a bit to the west of where the main rail lines were I think - see https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=18&lat=53.131153&lon=-1.033118 . Obviously it's a bit tricky here - bridleways and railways are linear feature...
12017-09-26 13:38:09 UTCGinaroZ Hi, this section is already part of the John Muir Way relation and therefore does not need a name https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/49215#map=13/55.9970/-2.6103
22017-09-26 14:57:14 UTCSomeoneElse Just for info - a couple of ways of seeing long distance paths like this: https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=12!55.9982!-2.6546 and https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=14&lat=55.99511&lon=-2.6278 .
12017-09-24 10:53:37 UTCHarald Hartmann Hello andy mackey. Do you searched for http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpublic_bookcase ? ;-)
22017-09-24 10:54:08 UTCHarald Hartmann btw `old-phone-box` would be a new (and so far unkown) key.
32017-09-25 21:18:47 UTCSomeoneElse "building" is sometimes used to indicate an old phone box - http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4588450555 .
42017-09-26 04:53:49 UTCHarald Hartmann @andy mackey: have you ever read the wiki mentioned above? so i've expected that you change it from `amenity=library` to `amenity=public_bookcase` and from old_phone_box to `public_bookcase:type=phone_box`. Or is it a really a library?
12017-09-24 18:28:30 UTCSomeoneElse Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
Can you explain what https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/527244266#map=16/24.7647/43.8673 is? You've added it as "coastline" here which seems unlikely.
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-09-24 18:29:11 UTCSomeoneElse مرحبا ومرحبا بكم في خريطة الشارع المفتوح!
هل يمكنك شرح ما هو https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/527244266#map=16/24.7647/43.8673؟ لقد أضفته ك "ساحل" هنا يبدو غير محتمل.
تحياتي الحارة،
أندي
32017-09-25 06:02:03 UTCBCNorwich Please understand that Way 527116798 is a duplication of highway 411.
12017-09-24 10:24:49 UTCHarald Hartmann Hello SomeoneElse. At http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5124076913 you have tagged `cradt` instead of `craft`, right? #typo
22017-09-24 10:49:19 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks
12017-09-22 23:57:58 UTCSomeoneElse I'm guessing that some of the tags on https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/60263383/history should perhaps be adjacent rather than on the crossing?
12017-09-21 22:50:22 UTCSomeoneElse Erm - you perhaps ought to have a read of the page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Relations_are_not_Categories in the OSM wiki :)
22017-09-22 08:44:54 UTCandi2911 Oh ok, well I haven't started with the european road network relation, which is already quite big. Ok, then group it as you wish :)
12017-09-21 13:31:27 UTCSomeoneElse For the avoidance of any doubt - Google Streetview isn't a valid source for OSM (the licence is incompatible). Obviously you may be mapping things from local knowledge here (and just saying "they really do exist; you can look at GSV if you don't believe me!"), and this data has been delet...
22017-09-22 05:41:32 UTCJay May Hi Andy. I’ve already been acknowledged with this fact a couple of months ago, after what I stopped using GSV for OSM immediately; but thanks for your reminder. Kind regards. Jerry
32017-09-22 05:42:45 UTCJay May P.S.: in this case I hadn’t used GSV, but I wrote that because one specific user from LT kept deleting my changes and I was angry...
12017-09-18 21:30:17 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks for fixing!
12017-09-18 13:53:19 UTCSomeoneElse Hello Ultimate lore,
You've deleted two long paths that are still visible on the imagery here. Can you explain what the problem with them was?
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group.
22017-09-18 13:53:54 UTCSomeoneElse 你好极了,
您已经删除了在这里的图像上仍然可见的两条漫长的路径。 你能解释一下他们的问题吗?
最好的祝福,
Andy Townsend,代表OSM的数据工作组。
12017-09-18 09:33:48 UTCSomeoneElse Hello andi2911,
In this changeset and most other recent ones you've not used any changeset comment. Adding a changeset comment allows other mappers to see why you've changed what you've changed. As you can see from http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=234298960 the objects here have political...
22017-09-18 09:35:19 UTCSomeoneElse Hallo andi2911,
In diesem änderung und den meisten anderen neueren hast du keine änderung kommentiert. Hinzufügen eines Changeet-Kommentars erlaubt anderen Mappern zu sehen, warum Sie geändert haben, was Sie geändert haben. Wie Sie von http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?...
12017-09-17 16:05:35 UTCHarald Hartmann Hello SomeoneElse. At http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/525251037 there are some typos: `maxsspeed` and `surce:name` ;-) #newkey #typo
22017-09-17 16:09:48 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks!
12016-11-18 02:10:50 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
I think that something has gone wrong here. You've set the wikidata ID of both http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/195384 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/88077 to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23098 .
They're different entities on the ground. Can you explain how you actually ...
22016-11-18 02:13:05 UTCSomeoneElse Likewise http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/957520 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/957519 have been assigned the same wikidata ID. In this case should they perhaps share one relation that has the same wikidata ID?
32016-11-18 03:06:28 UTCnyuriks SomeoneElse, thanks, good catch. I'm trying to get the Wikipedia and Wikidata tags in sync. Seems that the Wikipedia tag have been set to an identical value on both. I will investigate - maybe only one of them should have it?
42016-11-18 03:15:11 UTCnyuriks SomeoneElse, I fixed the first one - it should have had a different Wikidata ID, as well as a different (more prescise) Wikipedia link. http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/195384 I cannot figure out why the second pair have identical WP and WD links, without being identical. The WP article doesn'...
52016-11-18 14:08:27 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks - the Administrative Derbyshire's wikidata link looks OK (the sv:wikipedia page looks a bit rubbish, but we'll gloss over that - a wikipedia problem, not an OSM issue).
As things currently stand I don't think http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/957520 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/relat...
62016-11-18 19:14:01 UTCnyuriks Hi, thanks for looking into it!
The first issue is really about Wikipedia vs Wikidata linking -- sometimes WP article covers both the village and civil parish, while WD item claims it is both, but it is really about just one meaning. Do we really want to link to both is an open question - IMO only ...
72016-11-18 21:45:31 UTCSomeoneElse Re "Do we really want to link to both is an open question" it would probably make sense not to link to either if the thing that you're linking from in OSM is something else entirely. To be honest, I'm still struggling understand what I asked at the top - "what you're actually trying ...
82016-11-18 23:15:23 UTCnyuriks I posted a long reply to https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=56436 but it is pending moderator approval. I tried to explain both my method and reasoning. I simply locked the volatile Wikipedia link as a Wikidata ID - I have not touched the objects that did not have a Wikipedia tag alrea...
92016-11-19 00:29:34 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks - I'm sure that the post will be approved shortly.
102016-11-19 01:00:36 UTCnyuriks SomeoneElse - https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=618646#p618646
112016-11-20 07:03:06 UTCnyuriks fixed two more dups - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43815558 - the rest (957519,957520 - Barnby Moor CP, and 1976182,4077796,1976184 European walking route E2 - seems legit. We don't need to have a perfect 1:1 between wikidata and osm - just like WP links, multiple objects in OSM can point...
122016-12-12 00:24:29 UTCSomeoneElse It's been over 3 weeks now - are you going to fix the errors in this changeset? Some examples noted above, but there are many others.
132016-12-12 10:02:07 UTCnyuriks SomeoneElse, yes, I am working on it. You can always reach me on IRC - "yurik".
142017-05-19 09:37:22 UTCSomeoneElse Well, It's been over 5 months now - are you going to fix the errors in this changeset? The Dunham-on-Trent example is still wrong, but there are many others.
152017-09-16 09:06:28 UTCSomeoneElse Actually, looks like someone's changed something in wikidata back in April - wikidata now says "village and civil parish". Barnby Moor still in 2 pieces though (wigh pre-exists this changeset).
162017-09-16 19:49:17 UTCnyuriks @SomeoneElse, I think it should be fixed differently - we should remove all tags except name, note, source, and type, and create a relation that has all the original tags with those two ways.
12017-09-13 14:17:53 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
If you're looking for somewhere to add test data, perhaps https://master.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you in future?
Best Regards,
Andy
22017-09-13 14:24:28 UTCStephaneP Hi !
Sorry ! I completely forgot to use a test server.

My test was related to this discussion :
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/StephaneP/diary/42273

Stéphane
12017-09-12 17:04:08 UTCSomeoneElse Thanks!
12017-09-12 14:02:06 UTCHarald Hartmann Hello SomeoneElse. At http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5099252990 you tagged `ahop=variety_store`, so i think this is a typo, right? #newkey #typo
22017-09-12 14:38:57 UTCSomeoneElse Yes thanks - fixed.
12017-09-11 15:44:39 UTCSomeoneElse Hi,
Is the definitely a deli (as per https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop=deli?uselang=en-GB ) rather than the usual sandwich / other fresh food place? It's a while since I've walked past the door (it's a long way uphill from most of Matlock) but my recollection was more Sandwich-y?
Best ...
22017-09-11 20:09:02 UTCkjon Hi Andy, feel free to change if you think fast food suits better.
32017-09-12 12:04:50 UTCSomeoneElse I'll have a look the next time that I'm there.
12017-09-11 15:17:14 UTCmaxerickson Hi-

This changeset accidentally moved a node of a building a long distance, something to watch out for. It ends up creating rendering artifacts across a wide area.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ika-chan!/diary/42268
22017-09-11 15:27:42 UTCtyr_asd Now the restaurant is duplicated in Vienna:

* https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5009482079
* https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5009482081

It's really strange that this happened at all. The two node ids differ only by 2, but it's not a single bitflip. Did you do something special with JOSM w...
32017-09-11 15:28:46 UTCtyr_asd PS: I couldn't help but notice that the comment on this changeset could be better. Please read https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments – your fellow mappers would appreciated that very much :)
42017-09-12 11:57:25 UTCPlaneMad Does JOSM not throw a warning for this?
52017-09-12 12:01:20 UTCSomeoneElse There's a ticket from 3 years ago: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/11215
(which is worth a read, just for a giggle).
62017-09-12 12:23:43 UTCtyr_asd I would assume that Walter did not intentionally move this node from Africa to Europe in this changeset: Walter seems to be an experienced user, and this changeset looks quite fine (adding a precise cuisine tag, teaking the coordinates slightly) if it wasn't affecting the wrong node. – I've as...
72017-09-13 18:42:21 UTCWalter Schlögl It seems to me that there is a bug in JOSM that could have moved this point that far, but I'm not sure how to identify such a bug.
12017-09-12 11:28:15 UTC