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12018-03-16 07:29:55 UTCmbethke Another thing, please make sure to always add "physical tags" that describe *what* something is. Here, that's amenity=place_of_worship. Or natural=peak for the mountain you added a few days ago, see
12018-03-16 07:20:01 UTCmbethke Thanks for helping with Lao spelling and all, it's much needed! :)
Just wondering about this track though: there's another dirt road mapped here that seems to follow the mountain ridge. Are you sure this track goes straight agross everything here, or is the road mapped wrong?

22018-03-16 10:22:40 UTCSisouvan Firstly thank you for your attention, I traced the track through on the physical (standard) layer, but when I showed the map by the satellite view i founded the wrong track, and then I tried to trace a new one by following the dirty road seen on the map. I wanted to delete the old track through but ...
12018-03-15 14:19:14 UTCmbethke Hi,
are you sure about that name change? The Lao name still says ຈອມລີ with an L

12018-03-15 14:11:29 UTCmbethke Hi,

please don't enter things as "name" of a POI that are not actual names.
12018-03-15 03:09:36 UTCmbethke Are you sure this is an actual artwork by that strange name?
12018-03-14 05:16:19 UTCmbethke Hi,
"Mabgkokham" looks like a strange spelling for Lao. Are you sure about that?
12018-02-28 07:23:20 UTCmbethke Hi,
please don't call your guesthouses "Guesthouse". If you don't know the name or can't spell it because it's in Lao, it's OK to leave it blank, but "Gueshouse" is certainly not their name.

12018-02-22 15:07:35 UTCmbethke Danke für den Point of Interest!
Aber denkt dran: "name" sollte enthalten, wie das Ding heißt. Dass es eine Wechselstube ist, erkennt man an amenity=bureau_de_change, der Name sollte dann sowas wie "Noy's Easy Money" oder so sein :)
12018-02-19 05:10:50 UTCmbethke Hi,
I suppose you're the owner of Nana so you know your place's data, it's just... Ban Vieng Keo is neither a street name nor a house number. You *could* add it as "addr:subdistrict" if you like but that's not really necessary. Also, the post code looks suspicious to me. And you shouldn't...
12018-02-19 04:40:45 UTCmbethke What does "NAM HA MBCA" mean?
12018-02-16 04:20:05 UTCmbethke Hi,
thanks for your addition! Stuff like "Local Food (full of locals at breakfast)" would better fit into the "description" tag though as that's not the name of the place. I tried to guess the correct location as the node was sitting in the middle of an intersection, maybe you c...
12018-02-16 04:11:17 UTCmbethke Hi Peter,
what kind of an attraction is "Felixflo"? It could use some physical tag.

12018-02-15 17:19:07 UTCmbethke Oops, thanks for fixing my level-vs-layer screwup ;)
tunnel=culvert is fine for channels though:
22018-02-15 21:37:35 UTCAvocadough! Hi mbethke,

You are correct that tunnel=culvert is the appropriate tag for the canal. I corrected the tags back, thanks!
12018-02-06 14:05:30 UTCmbethke "Thanon" means "street",and aerial imagery doesn't look like there could be a temple or similar here. Sure about that place_of_worship?
12018-02-05 03:59:24 UTCmbethke Hi,
just wondering: that's actually a guesthouse called "Saleuy Waterfall" there?
Oh, and have an awesome ride, in case you're still on the road! :)

12018-02-02 06:59:43 UTCmbethke Hi,
you can use name:lo for Lao names. It's similar to Thai but not Thai after all :)
12018-02-01 13:16:50 UTCmbethke Are you sure this is a shelter, as in ?
Those usually don't have WiFi.
12018-02-01 12:07:51 UTCmbethke Thanks for the international tagging! For Lao names you can use "name:lo", no need to call it Thai ;)
12018-02-01 01:10:55 UTCmbethke Hi,
you added that place already yesterday or so. If it doesn't appear in Maps.ME right away that's because they only update their maps once a month or so. It's a bit unfortunate that Maps.ME doesn't remember your additions once they're uploaded but it's like that.
By the way, please only note as ...
12018-01-31 07:11:22 UTCmbethke Hi Niccolò,
are you sue about the POI type here? If the shop calls itself a bakery but sells sweet stuff, I think shop=pastry ( would be more appropriate than shop=confectionery (
12018-01-31 07:06:49 UTCmbethke Hi,
thanks for the addition! I just fixed one thing: rather than adding "free" to the name, it's better to add an extra tag "fee=no". If there is a cost, make it "fee=yes" and "fee:amount=10000 LAK" for example, using international currecy symbols like LAK f...
12018-01-29 00:32:56 UTCmbethke Hi,
could you check the spelling on this one, please? "nt" is a combination that doesn't occur in Lao so I'm quite sure there's something wrong. If it's spelled like this on the sign (entirely possible ;)) it's fine though, even if it's a wrong transcription.

12018-01-27 04:41:01 UTCmbethke Hi,
that supermarket with Papaya you mapped there looks more like a street vendor on aerial imagery. Of course it could be outdated, ar you sure supermarket is the right category?

12018-01-26 01:09:23 UTCmbethke Hi Adam,
there's no need to add a place multiple times. If it doesn't appear on Maps.ME yet, that's because they update their maps only about once a month so it will take a while for it to be included in the next map update.
I've left your previous entry of Seb's Bar in and deleted this one.

12018-01-24 01:06:35 UTCmbethke Hi,
there no need to add POIs multiple times - if it doesn't appear in Maps.ME right away that's because it uses offline maps and will only feature your addition in the next monthly update. There was a nameless hairdresser mapped at that location already; I've now merged the two places.

12018-01-22 13:00:10 UTCmbethke Are you sure this is a touristic apartment?
12018-01-22 12:54:03 UTCmbethke Please don't change Lao names to French. Laos' national language is Lao, so that's usually (i.e. when it's known) what goes into the name tag. Extra French or English names can go into name:fr or name:en respectively.
12018-01-18 06:22:14 UTCmbethke tourism=information isn't the right tag to use here, see

I'll convert this into a map note. Unfortunately, the rest of the road isn't visible on the aerial pictures. You don't happen to have a GPS trace, do you? That would be really help...
12018-01-16 04:33:12 UTCmbethke Hallo Tom,
ich hab mal ein paar Tags korrigiert/hinzugefügt:

- "Blut spenden" heißt "to donate blood", "to spend" ist "ausgeben" :)
- ATMs am besten als Extra-Nodes anlegen, aber wenn in einem Node mit der zugehörigen Bank, dann atm=yes se...
12018-01-12 18:38:20 UTCmbethke That's not the name of the place, is it?
12018-01-12 05:52:44 UTCmbethke Is that a petanque place?
12018-01-10 16:06:41 UTCmbethke tourism=information bedeutet eine Touristeninformation als Einrichtung, wie man sie als Büro oder Kiosk findet, wo man jemanden von der Stadt oder dem Tourismusverband fragen kann oder Flyer bekommt. Info über die Höhle nebenan passen besser in ein description-Tag. Ich hab das mal &uu...
12018-01-10 15:56:50 UTCmbethke Is that a tourism=museum or leisure=park? "museum_park" won't be rendered the way you want, nor found.
12018-01-09 11:06:03 UTCmbethke Please don't do this. You can add a description tag if you like but don't change the name to something that's not the name.
12018-01-09 10:58:50 UTCmbethke "Don't come" certainly isn't the name of this waterfall, is it?
12018-01-09 10:56:48 UTCmbethke Is this actually a camp site for tents or campers, or a hut (shelter, alpine_hut or similar)?
12018-01-09 10:36:29 UTCmbethke Ist dieser "Organic Market" in Meuangkhun ein richtiger Laden (shop=supermarket) oder eher ein Wet Market mit einzelnen Ständen (amenity=marketplace)?
12018-01-09 01:07:43 UTCmbethke Please don't take your dissatisfaction with a place to OSM, there's Tripadvisor et al. for that.
12018-01-08 06:51:47 UTCmbethke "See schön", is that actually the place's name?
12018-01-02 23:12:22 UTCaharvey Is the feature you named Blowhole at a geological blowhole? If it is let's add the tag
22018-01-03 10:11:57 UTCmbethke Yes, it is; I didn't know that tag exists, so go right ahead! Naming it "blowhole" was a bad idea though, especially as name and name:en are out of sync now, so I wouldn't mind if you deleted those, too :)
32018-01-04 10:23:33 UTCaharvey done
12018-01-01 23:37:37 UTCmbethke When I visited about 3 months ago, the bridge was gone with a flood. So I take it it has been reconstructed? I'll just add a new one instead of your POIs to help with routing.

cheers and thanks for the update,
12018-01-01 23:17:03 UTCmbethke Thanks for the addition! I'll just add the Lao name, thought I'd let you know as you seem to be part of the team.
12018-01-01 22:55:21 UTCmbethke Dongpaina and Dongpalane are different streets. Please don't keep "fixing" the wrong names around here, I'll have to revert all of it.
12017-12-31 10:24:12 UTCmbethke Hi,
please read up on how to use language-specific name tags. It's not very helpful to have French names in English-specific tags for instance. In Laos, the Lao name should be used in the "name" tag unless it's not known or it's clear that the French or English one is the primary one and ...
12017-12-12 07:21:04 UTCmbethke Sehr gut; das hab ich mich ja schon mal gefragt, wo der genau ist :D
12017-12-07 08:37:10 UTCmbethke Hi Kouung,
those tourist informations you mapped here look like they're actually villages, all being called Ban something...?
For Lao names you can use the name tag "name:lo" by the way.

12017-12-02 15:33:02 UTCmbethke Hi Yogesh, thanks for your additions!
Would be nice if you put the description of a place in a tag called "description" -- if a shop is not *called* "Mechanic", "Basics" or "Lao", that shouldn't got into the name tag. If you don't know the name or can't write...
12017-12-01 23:41:32 UTCmbethke This supermarket sits in the middle of an intersection. Maybe that's the correct GPS position but that would require fixing the streets as well.
12017-11-27 08:14:46 UTCmbethke Hi Carlos,
sorry, I'll have to revert that one. A name tag should only hold a name in one language, "name" specifically, the local one, i.e. the Lao name in Laos. name:en said "Luang Namtha" already. The default renderer only shows the local name but other renderers don't, see\...
12017-11-24 03:40:34 UTCmbethke Hi, thanks for your additions!
Please use only the actual name of a place as its name tag, not what's on the menu. "noodle soup" certainly isn't the name -- for a restaurant, this could go into the "cuisine" tag.

22017-11-24 04:36:38 UTCSo Ber Hi!
I Know it’s not a name but this kind of place has no name ! It s just a woman making some noodle soup (no menu, this is the only meal) in front of her house, with one or two tables. Nothing more ! It’s good, local and cheap !
32017-11-25 10:37:48 UTCmbethke Sure, if it looks like something she's doing longer term, it totally makes sense to add it as a fast food place. Just don't add a name if if doesn't have one, but maybe a description can be helpful. If the description should be "yummy food for 10k LAK as of late 2017", that's fine :)
12017-11-24 03:52:30 UTCmbethke Hi, thanks for your contributions!
Please only use the actual place name as a name tag though, not what's on the menu nor prices etc. There are other tags like "cuisine" for the kind of food; prices usually don't make any sense to record on a map as they're subject to change.

12017-11-22 15:22:03 UTCmbethke Good addition, thanks! :)
12017-11-17 16:24:47 UTCmbethke Da war ja auch eine Furt gemappt, wenn man das auch schlecht erkennen kann. tourism=information bedeutet eigentlich so eine Art Info-Kiosk:
12017-11-15 15:42:06 UTCmbethke Hi,
are you sure you just wanted to map five car rentals? They don't look anything like that and the names sound like you meant villages?
12017-11-09 15:46:38 UTCmbethke Hi,
are you a guesthouse, a bar or both? Currently the place is tagged as amentity=bar as well as tourism=guesthouse.
I just fixed the names, one still said Pany Hotel.

12017-11-09 15:39:36 UTCmbethke Hi,
thanks for your additions to OSM! Do you think you could find out the names of the places you added? It would help with searching.

12017-11-09 15:32:32 UTCmbethke Hi,
I just noticed you updated the name of this Hotel. Please don't put in Lao names with an English version of Maps.ME. Maps.ME only sets the English name (name:en), Lao must go into name:lo (and usually "name" in Laos).
You might want to try OSMand for mapping on an iPhone, it's much m...
12017-11-07 07:32:26 UTCTiks In, I can only choose supermarket as type, not marketplace, as should be here.
22017-11-08 08:10:17 UTCmbethke Thanks for the note, I just transferred the tags to the existing building and deleted the node
12017-10-30 05:11:58 UTCmbethke Dear Olivier,
I have deleted your entry for Mojo Guesthouse - it was mapped already, and please don't take your disputes with hotel owners to OSM. Tripadvisor or something is there for you.

12017-10-26 05:26:27 UTCmbethke Hi,
any reason for changing this back to wrong values? See

12017-10-18 07:40:01 UTCmbethke This name is neither English (name:en) nor Lao?!
12017-10-18 06:27:49 UTCmbethke Hi,
thanks for your work, but please don't create all these cafes. They are not really cafes, so I have to delete them. When I can see what they are (ຮອງແຄມ etc.), I can fix it. Many seem to be villages?

12017-10-16 15:40:32 UTCmbethke Hi,
you keeps creating English name tags while you put Lao in them. I'm not sure how you can fix that other than use a different app -- I recommend OSMand.

12017-10-16 14:58:04 UTCmbethke That's not a wilderness hut there in the military area.
12017-10-15 13:05:07 UTCmbethke ກະລຸນາ ບໍ່ ໃສ່ ບ້ານ ດັ່ງ ຮ້ານກາເຟ. ບໍ່ ແມ່ນ ເຖືອກ.
12017-10-11 15:12:53 UTCmbethke This is also not supposed to be a cafe, is it?
12017-10-11 15:11:48 UTCmbethke Hi,
you created two cafes in the middle of the street here. Their names suggest they should be street names instead, right?
12017-10-09 02:48:34 UTCmbethke Hi Eric,
I noticed you added two hotels called "My Home" and a furniture shop called "Mama". Are you sure these are all actually hotels and furniture shops?
12017-10-07 07:55:56 UTCmbethke Are you sure this is a shelter as defined here?
12017-10-01 07:36:52 UTCmbethke Hi Guodawai,
you added an NGO office here -- the name says "mixing station" though if I can trust Google. Are you sure that's an NGO and not a company?

22017-10-01 07:38:20 UTCmbethke Ah, checking again: the area where you added a cafe looks like it could actually be an industrial gravel mixing station...?
12017-09-23 16:39:55 UTCmbethke Hi Witya,
I removed those name tags from the motorcycle shop because they're not names. They may have a sign saying "Bike for rent" but the name will be something like "Noy's Motorbike". If it has an English name at all -- and I don't think it has a Russian name on any sign, doe...
12017-09-07 03:08:51 UTCmbethke Hi Mandy,
thanks for adding those missing streets! Regarding your classification I have some doubts though; why would the one north of Khoun Boulom for example be an unclassified one instead of residential? Same with the one south of Asean. You haven't checked on the ground, have you?

22017-09-07 18:15:12 UTCMandyMoslow Hi Matthias,

I was trying to map based on the OSM Wiki’s definition of unclassified but looks like residential is better here.

I will look over my edits again and make changes.

Thank you,
12017-09-06 12:01:35 UTCmbethke Hi, welcome to OSM!
I just fixed a few things about your contribution:
- Please don't map things that are not of public interest, like "My house". If everybody did that, we'd have thousands of "My house" places and nobody could tell them apart anyway.
- Same with "my foot...
12017-08-13 14:04:11 UTCmbethke Are you sure there is a viewpoint there? Near Dongdok? Sounds dubious to me.
12017-08-05 16:36:01 UTCmbethke Hi Beager,
that's a strange phone number for Vientiane. Sure it's not 021 (VTE landline) or 020 (cellphone)?
By the way, it's always a good idea to canonicalize numbers to international format, i.e. leave off the 0 and add +856 for Laos.

22017-08-05 18:28:14 UTCBeager Hey Matthias,

I've fixed the number (missing the 0) and changed it to the +856 format.
I've also added the name in Lao.
32017-08-05 18:28:30 UTCBeager Thanks,
42017-08-06 06:22:55 UTCmbethke Perfect, thanks and keep it up :)
12017-08-03 04:40:47 UTCmbethke Hi Tou,
are there actually two different travel agencies?
I fixed the phone number to list both numbers -- please don't put the phone number into the house number field, that's supposed to be the number of the house on the street.

12017-07-26 02:10:32 UTCmbethke No, Benoni was mapped already :)
12017-07-26 02:09:07 UTCmbethke Are you sure that's a shop where you can buy electronics? "Sandy Internet" sounds like amenity=internet_cafe
12017-07-26 01:36:37 UTCmbethke Sure this is is a campsite like this?
I visit this area l lot and haven't seen any, although a lot of things have changed there.
12017-07-25 09:32:23 UTCmbethke Hi Thierry,
welcome to OSM! Sorry I had to make a few changes to your first edit: Benoni Cafe was mapped already; the hotel without a name positioned almost right on the street makes little sense (maybe that was a first attempt for TripleThree?), and while I think Triple Three Condo is valid, it l...
12017-07-24 03:15:14 UTCmbethke Hi,
our imagery in Vientiane happens to be fairly exact so there's probably no harm in aligning streets with it, but generally you shouldn't do that. It may well be that someone drew it according to a GPS track that's more precise than the image.

22017-07-28 21:59:52 UTCroses7 Thanks for the advice!
12017-07-24 03:11:40 UTCmbethke Please don't put a category like "Temple" in the name field. place_of_worship is fine; to mark it as a Buddhist temple, add religion=buddhist. The name is Vat Sisangvone and was mapped already so I just deleted your node :)
12017-07-24 02:25:40 UTCmbethke Is this really a hospital or only a pharma company? If there is no doctor, the building tags are sufficient. I changed it from building=apartments to building=commercial and fixed the phone number.
12017-07-14 00:01:47 UTCmbethke Sorry, I had to delete a whole bunch of buildings here, they are actually caravans.
12017-07-03 13:30:23 UTCmbethke I just fixed this by putting all the names on a single POI. The Lao name should go into "name" and "name:lo", the English one in "name:en". makes it a bit difficult to do that though
12017-06-26 14:20:36 UTCmbethke Hi Toinoi,
a tip for your naming of places: it's a bit confusing to put English and Lao names in the same field; we have language-specific tags for that. You could set the "name" tag to the Lao name and additionally an English name in name:en. Copying the Lao name to name:lo is a good ide...
12017-06-01 10:22:38 UTCmbethke Oops. Thanks for fixing, that was a rushed update ;)
12017-05-26 00:52:55 UTCmbethke Hi Lucas,
some good ideas there like mapping the parking lot for That Luang, but please check your categories with -- a parking lot is not a place of worship even though some people might be worshipping the supercars you find there once in a while ;) Just like an aband...
12017-05-08 01:36:23 UTCmbethke Some good additions there, thank you! :)
Just a note: if you create a building tagged with an amenity like for the Lao-Thai-Road market (I forget what it's called), you don't need to create an extra node for the same thing.
I just made some small changes: the marketplace building is a little small...
22017-05-08 02:08:23 UTCBeager Thanks for clarifying/fixing those things to the OSM standard.
I remember your points for future additions. :)
12017-04-24 09:03:52 UTCmbethke Hi,
sorry, had to delete your mapping of L'Atmosphère as it was a duplicate. It takes a while for new Points of Interest to show up in MAPS.ME - usually they update the maps on a monthly basis. If you want to check if something is mapped yet, you can search for it on the web at http://osm.or...
12017-03-30 05:49:03 UTCmbethke Sorry to say but there are no supermarkets in the middle of the Mekong sand bank
12017-03-15 03:45:37 UTCmbethke Hi,
are you sure the names on the fountain and car shop you created are correct? English and Thai do not match ...
12017-03-15 02:47:32 UTCmbethke Whether it's true or not, this is not the place to take it out. Changeset reverted.
12017-02-12 13:19:55 UTCmbethke "Ban Saphanthong Naüe", besides being a weird transcription, is the name of the village and makes no sense as a street name. Sometimes streets are named with "Ban XXX Hom YYY" like the one by Webrian two streets to the east. Actually that's the best way to name them as it's ...
12017-02-06 02:43:46 UTCmbethke Hallo Lorenz,
du musst das nicht mehrfach eintragen :)
Das ist normal, dass die Points Of Interest erst mit dem nächsten monatlichen Update auf der App erscheinen.
12017-02-02 05:25:40 UTCmbethke Thanks for adding Plan International! The tagging is fine, but take care of the POI type: "place of worship" is note quite it, I changed it to "NGO Office"
12017-01-16 14:47:19 UTCmbethke Hi Weiyang,
are you sure about this OpenStreetMap edit of yours this morning? You created a shelter, which would be the first one I see in Laos. And there is a hostel called "Khamngoi village"...?

12017-01-16 13:23:29 UTCmbethke Hi Johnnie,
thanks for mapping Hive Hostel! Please avoid entering the same place multiple times though. If it doesn't turn up in immediately, that is because only updates its data once every couple of weeks, so your edits are not there right away. They are visible on the web in no m...
12017-01-09 04:41:21 UTCmbethke Hi Shanza Delicious,

just checking: is your restaurant name in Lao actually "Kouay Hom" while the English name is "Shanza Delicious"?
By the way, is a horrible map editor. Try "iD" that's available in your browser if you simply click "edit" while v...
12016-12-18 13:57:05 UTCmbethke Dear Vuekai,
you just mapped a water well in the middle of a large lake. Are you sure this is what you wanted to do?

kind regards,
12016-12-18 13:42:57 UTCmbethke Hi Dario,
sorry for deleting your mapping of Home Ideal supermarket, but it was already mapped right next to where you put it. I did take your opening hours and added the to the old node however, so thanks for that :)

12016-12-17 08:23:28 UTCmbethke Hi Brian,
thanks for your OSM additions! Just a note: it's important to add a "name" tag, not just name:en or name:lo, otherwise the POI won't have a name on the rendered map. This is usually just a copy of one of the language-specific tags, either the English or the Lao version here.
12016-09-06 14:35:21 UTCmbethke Hi Tou,
you created two nodes here, probably only one is correct?
12016-06-22 21:11:20 UTCmbethke Could you add the name of this office, please?
12016-03-25 02:53:22 UTCmbethke Same as changeset 38018214; this just duplicates an existing node
22016-04-24 10:50:07 UTCPeda This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 38830605 where the changeset comment is: Revert changesets of user Дмитрий-Одесса due to vandalism: duplicated nodes, removal of nodes,... (See or contact the D...
12016-03-25 02:53:15 UTCmbethke Hi Dmitriy,
I think you made a few editing errors here; this node is just a copy of the one that existed already, and it's at the wrong position. Could you revert it, please?
22016-04-24 10:49:36 UTCPeda This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 38830605 where the changeset comment is: Revert changesets of user Дмитрий-Одесса due to vandalism: duplicated nodes, removal of nodes,... (See or contact the D...
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