Changeset No. Date Contributor Comment
12017-11-18 07:32:55 UTCstephankn this is clearly a mechanical edit. I do not see any documented prior discussion. Please give some details, as I am not convinced that replacing addr:* with is_in:* is the current standard.
22017-11-18 18:40:48 UTCthailand-edits This wasn't a mechanical edit but a mass JOSM edit based on towns which contained addr:* tags.

I agree this was a large changeset, however each case was properly inspected.

Could you point out which nodes were mistagged? If you find a lot of them we can always revert this changeset, however to...
32017-11-19 23:02:21 UTCstephankn Thanks for responding to the comment.

Doing a mass change of tags is considered a mechanical edit. Whether you are using JOSM or other tools is not relevant in this context.

It seems this change was not discussed with the community. Or was it somewhere?

I see the problem that some details h...
42017-11-20 08:04:40 UTCthailand-edits I agree, this changeset is a bit large for a mass edit, but it was discussed and posted on the OSM mailing list, I can't find the exact thread but I've got a response from Miroff which was one of the users who added the addr:* in the first place.

https://github.com/osmottawa/osm-changesets/issues...
52017-11-20 13:00:41 UTCstephankn I recommend to move the discussion to the forum thread mentioned above. That way we can document the decision better.

Might be an interesting decision whether to go for addr:*. is_in:* or completely remove those where admin boundaries are available.

I am not too keen on investing time to do a ...
12017-11-01 11:02:10 UTCstephankn Thanks for trying to contribute. Unfortunately your edits need much improvement. Please seek out for some guiding on how to correctly add things to OSM. For example you created some artificial boundaries to the woos which clearly not exist in this way. Also your road classification needs improvement...
12017-11-01 10:59:39 UTCstephankn Why are you tagging ways which are at best agricultural track as highway=tertiary?
I see you are participating in organized mapping. Please contact your organizer for some training
12017-10-19 06:12:42 UTCstephankn This is a Buddhist graveyard? As you changed it from cemetery you indicate it belongs to the temple next to it. I know this concept mostly from Europe where a graveyard is next to the church.

The aerial looks much more like the Chinese cemeteries I have seen before...
22017-11-19 02:11:01 UTCMishari You're right, it is a cemetery, but by definition in the wiki I thought it's to be tagged a graveyard. Perhaps a clarification needs to be added to the wiki?
12017-10-15 21:36:04 UTCstephankn For example at node 997415485 you did not add the "Ban" to the village name, despite it being written like this on their village sign. Any specific reason for not doing so? I think it should be ບ້ານຫ້ວຍຊຽງ
22017-10-16 04:47:14 UTCkatpatuka ບ້ານ "Ban" means village. When being rendered it should IMHO render without the village ending - would you add "Village" to every village in England? One could of course add the village name including ban to the alt_name - I sometimes do that in China with 村 (meaning vi...
32017-10-16 07:41:56 UTCstephankn Right. But locals seem to consider it so important that they print it on the limited space available on the signs.

Typically in OSM we avoid abbreviations in the data. So we add Street instead of St.

If a data consumer wants to generally avoid it then it can be filtered at nearly no cost. See...
42017-10-23 20:27:42 UTCwebrian As far as I remember I rarely added "ban" to village names since it seemed redundant to me.
BUT probably it would be better to add it, since in 98% of all villages it is basically part of the name. Locals always say "ban......" when speaking of a village.
There are only a few c...
12017-10-16 06:30:22 UTCstephankn You did not create the tagging, but should have noticed that for most of the ways the highway=tertiary is absolutely not reasonable. eg way 274228028
and way 274228023. In tsuch cases please change to something more appropriate.
22017-10-19 16:29:11 UTCRVR002 Hi stephankn,
Thank you for your comment! We very rarely change existing tags because we are not on the ground to verify them and are conscious not to undo the hard work of local mappers who maybe adding these tags. We hope that mappers with a better context for Thailand like yourself can help in t...
12017-10-10 19:06:46 UTCstephankn why is for example way 516234777 not connected to the rest of the network?
22017-10-19 16:58:35 UTCRVR007 Hi stephankn,
Thank you for your comment! We can't find the disconnected way you're mentioning here. Please let us know if you find anything else. Also please note we are using the OSM Tasking Manager to map small squares one at a time. The areas we are working in now in the North East have not bee...
12017-10-06 20:24:41 UTCstephankn way 529811317
way 529811311
way 529811338

and others in that area are clearly residential roads in a newly constructed residential area. Should be tagged as such, not service.
12017-10-06 20:09:23 UTCstephankn You have (at least) those two roads newly created on top of existing highways. I am deleting them now. Please double check for existing roads before uploading.

way 529718919
way 529718917
22017-10-06 20:12:34 UTCstephankn also deleted way 529718916
12017-09-25 19:32:39 UTCstephankn openstreetmap is a public geo database. We collect facts. Please stop adding your noted into name-tags...
22017-09-25 19:36:14 UTCstephankn sorry, comment belonged to one changeset earlier. Changeset: 45285727
Thanks for fixing bad tagging. That maps.me user had a near 100% fail rate with the tagging...
12017-09-25 19:35:06 UTCstephankn openstreetmap is a public geo database. We collect facts. Please stop adding your noted into name-tags...
12017-09-10 14:34:37 UTCstephankn Can you please check the spelling of the monument? It does not render correctly. The unicode string looks broken. Seems you have broken characters at the beginning and in the end.
12017-04-19 10:52:31 UTCstephankn Do not abuse the name tag for comments. "Entrance fee to pass" is not the name of this feature. I removed it and replaced it by fee=yes which is the correct way to indicate this.
12017-04-18 18:45:22 UTCMike Stellar Why have you deleted 2 points I added? 4602564707 and 4602564706?
22017-04-19 02:05:45 UTCstephankn You did duplicate geometry so I fixed it. In addition the node you refer to had inappropriate tagging on it there is an entrance fee for the national park, not for the lift gate. Park already has fee=yes.
32017-04-19 02:09:24 UTCstephankn "Entrance fee 100 Baht" is certainly not the name of it. So you abuse the tagging. Please don't do that. I understand your frustration about having to pay a fee. Still: abusing name tags to have this highlighted on the map is not appropriate.
42017-04-19 09:47:56 UTCMike Stellar There should be an alternative then instead of simply removing this information. It's not a park, it's just 2 view points with lift gates.
52017-04-19 10:49:28 UTCstephankn Sorry that you did not get it the first time. What you are doing is wrong!

The name tag is only for the official name of a feature. It is not meant for you to express your frustration about paying an entrance fee to whatever attraction it is.

In addition to that you uploaded duplicate data ove...
62017-04-19 11:44:52 UTCMike Stellar Okay, thanks for clarifying.
12017-03-26 11:23:42 UTCstephankn Crazy Horse seems to be a common name for the rocks. On that "alternative" map there are multiple reviews mentioning this (search for "Crazy Horse Buttress"). Maybe keep it as "alt_name:en"?
22017-03-27 04:01:31 UTCsela ok, added "Crazy Horse" under "alt_name:en". Thanks for the hint. Wasn't aware that it's a common name used by the climbers.
12017-03-26 09:51:25 UTCtookay There is indeed a shop there called Casa Lapin.
22017-03-26 11:01:26 UTCstephankn I did only fix the tagging of the data. With the wrong format the data can not be evaluated.
Shop is still there. Also I did not change the name. Thanks for cross-checking.
12017-03-26 09:35:33 UTCAlaskaDave Every time I drive along here I wonder if the name of the road after passing Doi Saket should actually be Chiang Mai-Chiang Rai? As you know, road names in Thailand are poorly marked and I think I was the one who originally added the names to this highway. Not sure how I arrived at the naming anyway...
22017-03-26 10:58:38 UTCstephankn I didn't add the name, but just turn lanes to give a nice example on how it can be modeled.

Regarding the name: Hard to tell whether it is official. If I had to guess I would say it is not the official name, but colloquial name. Sort of "loc_name". The highway 118 (which would be the o...
32017-03-26 11:55:25 UTCAlaskaDave I agree it's a local name but I like it anyway. I don't want to get rid of it. My question really was, would you object if I changed the name of the section north of Doi Saket to Chiang Mai-Chiang Rai Road? Once it passes Doi Saket, that seems to be a more appropriate name.
12017-03-25 14:54:57 UTCstephankn why are you adding no-u-turn relations on every junction? This doesn't make much sense. Also doing a cross-check with streetview shows no such restriction. Please explain why are you adding this massive amount of restrictions.
12017-03-25 12:45:54 UTCstephankn you did not tag your ways. Like this they won't show up. In case they are supposed to be buildings: In Thailand houses are typically build with walls having right angles. Your ways have random shapes.
12017-03-25 11:05:17 UTCstephankn which provider did you use for DigitalGlobe? Was it Bing? so best to document it in this way. Digital Globe sells their imagery to different customers. Only a few of them allowed us to use it for OSM tracing.
12017-03-21 00:06:34 UTCstephankn some of your buildings overlap
12017-03-21 00:06:03 UTCstephankn some of your buildings overlap.
22017-03-22 14:00:00 UTCDenisCarriere +1 agreed.
@Nuttapong, please look at the existing OSM data to prevent having any overlapping buildings.
12017-03-20 23:11:06 UTCstephankn Are you involved with Facebook? Please document this on your user page.
12017-03-20 22:50:00 UTCstephankn Are you related to Facebook? Please document this on your user page.
12017-03-20 07:33:41 UTCstephankn You did a lot of mechanical edits without discussing them in the forum first.

Despite writing in your changeset comment the source is "knowledge", at least here you are wrong. "Seven & I Holdings" does not operate 7-Eleven stores in Thailand. This can be figured out quickl...
12017-03-19 12:49:09 UTCstephankn please only put Thai script names in name:th. Use a proper editor if your software can't handle this.
12017-03-18 09:47:33 UTCstephankn This uploads duplicate geometry already uploaded in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/46112980
12017-03-18 09:47:11 UTCstephankn This changeset geometry was uploaded later again in 46117993 with a different user's account
12017-02-11 09:39:42 UTCpitscheplatsch Hi dehr. May I know the reason behind deleting many mapped highways in this changeset? See http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=45986910
22017-03-08 00:13:10 UTCSomeoneElse Hi Pascal,
This changeset is I think related to https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=632747#p632747 . Essentially Facebook created some "clever" workflow to add roads (like they did last year that resulted in every wadi and wall in Egypt bing added as a "road" befo...
32017-03-10 21:22:57 UTCstephankn @Andi: It's quite difficult to properly use changeset discussions as long as there is no way to find your own comments. There is code fragments to add this to the wiki page but no one works on it. Thailand has a forum where more people participate in discussions.
42017-03-10 21:58:57 UTCdehr Hi Pascal, Andi, and Stephan.

Sorry for the late response on this changeset as this is my personal account and does not see much usage. I work for Facebook and my name is David.

We were working in the dev environment and an editor accidentally uploaded their practice edits to live OSM inste...
52017-03-10 22:25:23 UTCSomeoneElse @stephankn - it is possible to find your own comments (thanks to Pascal!):

http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=61891&commented

Cheers,
Andy
12017-03-02 22:36:26 UTCstephankn please restore named junction
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2899862480/history
22017-03-05 10:05:50 UTCBalthus★MC In this delete I assigned the junction to the same node as the Traffic Signal. Is this wrong? Has junctions to be separated from the road line and to be defined as separate points??
32017-03-10 21:19:50 UTCstephankn having it on the highway is fine. On more complex junctions it is more difficult to decide where to place it.
12017-03-02 22:35:41 UTCstephankn please restore named junction
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2711548441/history
22017-03-05 09:38:05 UTCBalthus★MC Done - is it correct? I am not 100% sure about it.
32017-03-10 21:18:08 UTCstephankn Named junction is back. Not a restore of the deleted node but a new one with the same tags than before. Lost the history, but ok, minor thing...
12017-03-09 08:43:26 UTCstephankn "Villa Bestfriend" is not thai script, so not suitable for being entered in the "name:th" key. Please enter only Thai script name here.

In many cases the Thai script name is better stated in the "name" tag in the first place, in case their typical used name is that. ...
12017-03-09 08:40:53 UTCstephankn "Tax Office" is not suitable for "name:de" key. I assume your software can't handle names correctly. Please consider using a proper editor. Please also correct the name tag. "name:en" for English names is more suitable. If you can get the Thai script name entered in the...
12017-03-04 20:59:51 UTCstephankn We are not allowed to systematically use Google Street View to get map details. Please do your own survey or use images from Mapillary who gave us permission to use it for OSM.
22017-03-05 10:26:15 UTCBalthus★MC Yes I am aware of it – the source was actually my own personal survey. In step 2 of my review I fixed the wrong sources but in this case Russ removed the my wrong name:en value – so I missed this road in the overpass turbo query. When I made this «minor change» I just let map...
12017-03-01 22:15:19 UTCstephankn you seemed to have missed to take over the tagging of highway 12 when you turned it into a dual carriage highway. Would be great if you could re-visit that area and add the tags to your newly created ways.
For example this is a start: way 461335048
If you need support in finding the ways with miss...
22017-03-02 11:24:51 UTCRuss McD Hwy 12 west of here is NOT a dual carraigeway ... it may have painted islands in areas, but OSM convention dictates we draw as a single carraigeway.
Also, the where the 2372 and 2278 one way sections cross the 12, the western lanes are NOT connected to the rest of the road, making routing impossibl...
32017-03-02 22:07:31 UTCstephankn Please check out the forum for further discussion:
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=634589
12017-03-02 21:40:18 UTCstephankn We should not discuss tagging in the fixme/note tags. Why does this tagging need more validation than any other tags in OSM to justify a dedicated fixme tag? If Johnny was able to provide a good source for why this is a village a proper change message is fine to document it.
https://www.openstreetm...
22017-03-05 09:27:31 UTCBalthus★MC Okay - I got it, I guess I got too much overcautious. Do we discuss tagging in the changeset comments then?
12017-02-24 13:17:07 UTCSomeoneElse Hello,
Can you please explain who you are and who you are working for? Your changeset comments (such as they are) suggest that you may be performing an undiscussed import on behalf of Facebook. Can you please ensure that you do not perform any more imports until they have been properly discussed,...
22017-02-28 01:29:12 UTCVLD001 Dear Andy (DWG),

Thank you for your message. Yes, I work for Facebook. My name is .

Per your requests on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:AI-Based_Country_Scale_Road_Import and https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=57387 we have stopped making any edits.

My profile has ...
32017-02-28 01:33:14 UTCVLD001 Dear Andy (DWG),
Thank you for your message. Yes, I work for Facebook. My name is Jaclyn.
Per your requests on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:AI-Based_Country_Scale_Road_Import and https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=57387 we have stopped making any edits.
My profile has b...
42017-02-28 16:24:18 UTCstephankn a highway=track indicates a way used for agricultural purposes. How do you distinguish these from simply unpaved roads? Do you consider it itelligent to place roads in the middle of nowhere without proper connection to the highway network? Please stop doing such low-quality edits!
52017-03-01 00:38:04 UTCVLD001 Stephan,
Thank you for your feedback. We based our tagging on a few things;
1. The commonly used tags in this area are highway=track. For Example https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?edit … 68/99.4921
2. This area looks like an agricultural area based on our recent high-resolution satellite...
12017-02-28 16:08:52 UTCstephankn You painted "Huai Tha Son" on top of an existing reservoir (Tham Nop). What is the source of your data? I wonder which one is the correct one.
12017-02-27 06:17:37 UTCstephankn here is clearly no casino with wifi. Please only map what is there.
12017-02-23 21:32:19 UTCstephankn what is the source of the updated ref number 2018?
22017-02-28 09:27:32 UTCBalthus★MC As remembered by Survey Dec-2016, but I go there again in about 1 or 2 weeks and I will check again and I will make a photo of the road sign for Mapillary - ok?
12017-02-23 20:34:30 UTCstephankn In this change you deleted a perfectly valid Thai scrip name in name:th. Why? Please restore it. Also don't change name:en to int_name. International does not always means english. Leave it to the map-maker to decide what language to use.
22017-02-28 09:42:39 UTCBalthus★MC Ok, you are right of course! Job done. Additionally I just found a wrong typo: <name:Tha> instead of <name:th> and corrected it…
12017-02-18 20:48:34 UTCstephankn why did you remove ref number 1001? is your stated source DDR Local Road Base map allowed to use in OSM?
22017-02-26 17:31:07 UTCBalthus★MC Because of survey I removed, not because of DRR LMP. I rode this road many times and I noticed, that the first road sign รย.1001 comes after the police station (just below the «See you again») when you come from south-east… After that I double-checked the official Thai source ...
12017-02-18 08:17:13 UTCstephankn why the re-classification of ways? EG 29421587 does not justify to be reclassified from residential to unclassified. Already the geometry is a clear indication that this is wrong.
22017-02-28 10:03:23 UTCBalthus★MC You are are right! I changed it back to residential - can't see the logic either why I did it but I cannot remember why I did it…
12017-02-15 21:25:55 UTCstephankn STOP braking bilingual names! They had been correctly tagged as name:en.
Are you going to change it back?
22017-02-28 09:21:51 UTCBalthus★MC Yes, done. Correct?
12017-02-14 20:12:23 UTCstephankn please don't change valid name:en entries into int_name which is discouraged. the correct way for english names is in name:en. Please also explain a bit in detail why you upgraded it to a town (usually 10.000 inhabitants is the limit). According to wikipedia we talk about less than 6.000. https://en...
22017-02-28 10:15:56 UTCBalthus★MC I have now replaced int_name with name:th – I have been there recently and had the impression it is at least a Thesaban Tambon – but actually I am not qualified to make a decision wether it is a town or village… I have added a fixme=place
12017-02-11 15:18:56 UTCstephankn what did you try to do here? Especially way 472322394?
22017-02-11 15:26:08 UTCМикола Фендак я роблю зміни в карті у зв'язку із змінами на місцевості чи з уточненням і доповненням даних (бо я тут живу). Конкретно по 472322394 не скажу, бо не знаю, як це знайти.
32017-02-12 23:07:30 UTCstephankn You added many artificial polygons. That is certainly nothing on the ground. Why did you add this?
42017-02-13 20:00:45 UTCМикола Фендак You are in Facebook?
There will be more convenient to communicate.
My akaund - https://www.facebook.com/fendakk
12017-02-01 07:52:39 UTCstephankn that name "Coffee" hints a bit that it is a coffee shop (consume there), not a shop selling beverages for consumption at home. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dbeverages

If so. please change to amenity=cafe

Also check spelling of the name. It is more likely called Coffe...
12017-02-01 07:22:00 UTCstephankn It is very uncommon (and in this case wrong) to create a relation for a single POI node. I believe this was not doen intentional and created a bugreport with iD: https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/3812
POI tagging is cleaned up. Please pay special attention on future edits.
12017-01-01 17:53:46 UTCstephankn So your spring has the Spanish word for massage school in the tag for Thai script? Please stop nonsense edits.
12017-01-01 17:45:31 UTCstephankn name:th is ONLY for the name in Thai script. Please follow the tagging standard as outlined in the wiki.
12017-01-01 17:42:49 UTCstephankn Please do not add duplicates. Manee House is already listed here.
12017-01-01 17:40:11 UTCstephankn Please stop adding fake features. If you are not willing to learn how to map in OSM, please stop using maps.me
12016-09-27 18:42:35 UTCstephankn please follow the naming standards of the community. Do not mix Thai/English names in the name tag. Put Thai script in name and name:th, the English name in name:en. In case of brand names which use Latin script also in Thailand as their main description use that in the name tag.
12016-06-12 10:04:20 UTCstephankn Auch in Thailand haben Gebäude in der Regel rechte Winkel im Grundriss. Bitte beim Abmalen von den Luftbildern mehr darauf achten, bzw. die Hilfsmittel aus dem Editor verwenden.
12015-03-15 12:40:31 UTCstephankn you created self-intersections on way 331158501

maybe a multipolygon would be a better choice?
12015-03-15 11:36:26 UTCstephankn Potlatch created single-node way: 244696164
12015-03-15 10:35:33 UTCstephankn You have changed the name tag to be mixed Thai/English in this changeset. This is not the usual way we do in Thailand. Please check the wiki on bilingual name tags. name is supposed to be in Thai script. English names are in name:en for map makers to decide whether to include it in their individual ...
12015-01-31 03:20:51 UTCstephankn regarding mini hydro: I think the main reservoir is a bit upstream. It it a pump storage plant? so maybe the empty reservoir is the lower basin?
22015-01-31 06:00:52 UTCAlaskaDave I don't know. I merely moved an existing reservoir to where I thought it might be when more water is present. I think the reservoir you tagged is probably the actual location.

I think the original reservoir should be deleted. By the way, are you sure the name is spelled Meatian? I think it is Mae...
32015-01-31 08:34:12 UTCstephankn It is a wrong spelling on their sign. I put in both spellings and removed the riverbank.
42015-01-31 09:07:55 UTCAlaskaDave Sounds good.
12014-12-10 06:42:11 UTCstephankn A major change like this could have deserved a changeset description. Especially when it is done by a user who did not edit anything before.

Based on the physical road characteristics as visible from aerial imagery and the road also being part of the AH network the upgrade itself seems reasonable...
22014-12-10 08:10:57 UTCAlaskaDave I agree with the previous comment. I am aware that highway 101 is being upgraded and perhaps deserves the reclassification but there is more to it than that. Reclassifying the links, making sure bridges also get the changed ref number and classification is part of the process. Such "loose ends&...
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