Changeset No. Date Contributor Comment
12018-09-21 09:14:36 UTCInfosReseaux Hi
Thank you to add all those hydropower features
You may be interested by usage=headrace for low pressure waterways upstream of power plant. usage=penstock is only suitable for inclined pipes leading to tubine at high pressure.
Consider using waterway=pressurised on penstock and maybe on headrac...
22018-09-21 15:34:50 UTCGazer75 I had a hard time finding appropriate tags when I mapped this. The wiki is kind of messy when it comes to hydro power and all its components. I didn't map many of these tunnels for the plants as the data is very basic.
32018-09-21 23:29:13 UTCInfosReseaux I believe you that last December the wiki might have look messy.
A proposal regarding hydropower was approved last March.
You should have a look to it, I'm sure it will help you.
12018-09-06 04:00:20 UTCGazer75 Do not change hamlets. It is not OSMs responsibility to fix geocoding errors. Read about tagging Norwegian places on wiki.
12018-09-06 03:50:46 UTCGazer75 This is not how you add a place. Notsete is already there as a farm. Please read the wiki properly before you continue to edit.
12018-09-06 03:45:24 UTCGazer75 Please dont put addr:* tags on roads they do not belong there. Addr nodes should also be left alone as they are updated from Kartverket. If there is an error please report it at
12018-09-05 22:23:53 UTCGazer75 Velkommen til OSM. Lite tips... ikkje gi navn (naust) til bygning på den måten. Name= brukast om bygningen har eit spesielt unikt namn eller når det er ein butikk eller firma som har heile bygningen. Type bygning skal vere i building= verdien så her vil nok kanskje building=b...
22018-09-06 13:51:05 UTCReidar Johansen Takk for tilbakemeldingen. Da har jeg oppdatert dette slik du beskriver.
12018-09-03 17:09:28 UTCGazer75 Tertiary er typisk brukt for vegar som har bussruter.
12018-09-02 14:23:44 UTCmueschel Hi,
could you please check this node? It got several foreign tags, which don't seem to belong to OSM:

22018-09-02 15:13:51 UTCGazer75 Thanks for spotting that one. Somehow a duplicated node got left behind and JOSM validator never warned me.
12018-08-29 12:36:36 UTCGazer75 A firing range is not always military area. There are separate tag for firing range.
12018-08-25 13:54:46 UTCGazer75 Would be nice if you actually added the poles to the power line and changed it to a minor line. Saves a lot of work later ;)
22018-08-25 20:42:40 UTCKelteren This is coming. Want some more information about the submarine cabled to Bolga before completing the actual power line.
12018-08-25 05:40:22 UTCGazer75 Why did you move the Fortum charger to the middle of a building? Please do not change things if you have no local knowledge.
12018-08-04 02:25:35 UTCGazer75 Would be nice if you could add the socket type and how many for each charging station.
12018-08-02 05:21:10 UTCGazer75 Highly doubt there is a car rental in the middle of an intersection between a road and a cycleway...
12018-07-21 05:13:39 UTCGazer75 This is a router problem not OSM problem. We can't add access tags for every conceivable option. Defaults are here:
22018-07-26 12:57:06 UTCthomfre What's the problem with adding access tags? How does it hurt to make explicit tags, and not just rely on implicit tagging?
32018-07-26 16:39:26 UTCthomfre Sorry, I was a bit too quick with my previous reply. I also work with GraphHopper, and it is true that GraphHopper needs explicit access tags, but only for barriers. I thought that was what @Wilmann had done (we know each other, so I assumed more than I should have).
42018-07-26 18:02:12 UTCGazer75 So what happen to barriers with no access tags? I hope you ignore them in that case. People may survey a gate and add it, but do not know the access rights for said gate.
52018-07-26 18:08:36 UTCthomfre To clarify: I work _with_ GraphHopper data. I don't work for them. As far as I know, they treat all barriers as blocking, unless they have access permission set.
12018-07-18 18:35:10 UTCGazer75 Please make sure you tag power lines properly. These are minor lines with poles because they are probably 22KV.
12018-06-12 00:25:29 UTCGazer75 Please do not add power lines without doing research. NVE data is outdated. This line was dismantled around two years ago when the new 420kV line through Sogn og Fjordane was completed.
22018-06-12 00:31:12 UTCGazer75 to be clear
12018-06-06 12:13:34 UTCGazer75 What was the reason for this? One way tags are not used on roads with two way traffic. You've made E39 impossible to route in one direction now.
12018-05-21 14:37:27 UTCmueschel Hi,
could you check this node, it has many strange tags:

Thanks, Jan
22018-05-21 15:25:26 UTCGazer75 Oops, looks like one of the nodes I had to import from the aviation obstacle data didn't get retagged properly :) Thanks for spotting that. Fixed now.
32018-05-22 00:19:47 UTCGazer75 How did you spot this error?
42018-05-22 09:03:35 UTCmueschel Using Taginfo I generate a list of keys which newly appear in the database - in most cases it's reporting simple spelling mistakes.
12018-05-06 02:35:54 UTCGazer75 Did you forget to reset imagery offset? The entire riverbank of Tana river is misplaced now.
22018-05-06 16:23:46 UTCSverigeFan The changeset is some month old and looks good for me if I view it on DigitalGlobe aerials: Could you specify which reference you use to judge the data are incorrect ? I think I didn't forget to reset an offset but have used GPS tracks from Strava (users) , which were available für download a...
32018-05-06 17:59:12 UTCGazer75

If the riverbank matches your DG imagery then there is something very wrong at your end.
42018-05-06 18:03:26 UTCGazer75 Any roads imported that use "Kartverket" as source will be a perfect source to align imagery to. This road data is the official data for Norway.

You even edited the riverbank after the construction of the new bridge at Tana Bru was added making it appear in the river. That should have m...
52018-05-06 18:09:36 UTCGazer75 The DG imagery for area around Tana Bru is only off by about 5-10m at most.

Forgot to mention... at least now there should be several options to pick Kartverket data in JOSM when editing in Norway. This should help you align any imagery.
62018-05-06 18:10:01 UTCSverigeFan Indeed, that is very wrong,

I was looking near Tanamunningen where the first obkjects from that changeset are laying.

Now I will see how to fix *that*

72018-05-06 18:14:02 UTCGazer75 If you wait a few weeks we might have a server to access official rectified Norwegian imagery that will rarely have an offset of more than 1m. We have the permission to use the imagery, but not permission to use a cache server yet.
82018-05-06 18:19:03 UTCGazer75 Adjusted imagery from DG or Bing are only valid for like 100m or so in many cases. You have to keep adjusting to known good spots.
Not many of the active mappers in Norway use them for anything more than basic info because of the bad alignment.
92018-05-06 20:45:45 UTCSverigeFan Well - for now I made a - maybe rough - fix by hand. Thank you for your hint on the mistake. My first reply of course was irrelevant, since I was disussion imagery offset which wasn't the problem at all here, where someone, I fear me, had shifted the Tana riverbanks multipolygon quite a lot while t...
102018-05-06 21:02:48 UTCGazer75 Keep an eye on the imagery list in JOSM when mapping. It will probably appear there once a host has been found.
For now you can view the imagery at and drool :) There is a small globe icon in top right corner on the page that will give you English language.
12018-04-28 19:34:43 UTCGazer75 Hei, Velkomen til OSM :)
Ver snill og ikkje flytt på husnummer om du ikkje veit kva du gjer. Dei er henta frå Kartverket og skal vere plassert ved inngangen. Du må ha ein svært god GPS om du skal rette feil på desse. Om husnummer er feil plassert så kan du rappor...
12018-04-13 17:39:30 UTCGazer75 Ålesund er ikkje place=city, den er maks place=town. Les wiki om korleis vi set place tags i Norge ;)
12018-04-13 09:05:04 UTCGazer75 Please do not to move and edit addr nodes as they are made semi automatic from Kartverket. These nodes are usually placed at the main entrance to the building.
Instead make a new node with the company info.
22018-04-13 09:06:01 UTCGazer75 Any errors to addr nodes can be reported to Kartverket at
12018-04-11 13:12:49 UTCEntur AS | Johan Wiklund Hvorfor tar du bort alltid bort vegnummeret på denne brua?
22018-04-12 06:27:58 UTCJensKveli Jeg var egentlig inne for å endre vegtype på deler av brua så det stemte med restene av veien. Så fjernet jeg vegnummeret for at brusymbolet skulle være synlig i standard kartløsning. Innser nå at det ikke er særlig smart, skal endre det.
32018-04-12 07:24:25 UTCEntur AS | Johan Wiklund Flott :)
42018-04-12 08:10:11 UTCGazer75 "Tagging for the renderer" :P Ikkje bra ;)
52018-04-12 08:18:45 UTCJensKveli Sant! Jeg skal prøve å forholde meg til prinsippene. Bør vel heller komme med inspill om at vegnummer ikke blir vist på bruer før du zoomer inn så mye at ikke hele brua blir borte.
62018-04-12 09:58:10 UTCGazer75 er plassen for det. Faktisk ein god ide at ein avgrensar ref visuelt på svært korte segment som dette.
12018-03-31 13:46:14 UTCGazer75 This is wrong edit. You set the plant total output on each generator. Please dont.
12018-03-31 13:43:43 UTCGazer75 Why did you change this generator to 270MW? Each of the 6 generators output 45MW not 270MW. That is the total output of the entire plant.
12018-03-15 15:25:01 UTCGazer75 Kanskje lurt å sjekke om det ligg ei kyrkje inne frå før? Sett dobbelt opp etter import
22018-03-15 15:31:52 UTCGazer75 sorry.. feil changeset
12018-03-13 16:00:13 UTCGazer75 You have added the population for the entire municipality to the city nodes which is wrong.
Aso there are a set number of places in Norway that are defined as a city. These are not. Please read the wiki on tagging in Norway
22018-03-13 16:04:53 UTCGazer75
12017-12-21 21:50:47 UTCGazer75 Did you move roads and buildings to fit the Bing aerial imagery? If so then you need to undo it.
22017-12-21 21:55:46 UTCGazer75 You've also connected house nodes to the road nodes and merged a house number node to a building. Address nodes are automatically updated from Kartverket and should be left as a separate node.
32017-12-21 21:58:52 UTCGazer75 We use official road data from Kartverket to position roads so unless you got a gps with 2 meter accuracy, so roads that got a source mentioning Kartverket and/or NVDB should not be moved to fit aerial imagery. The aerials should rather be aligned to fit the roads.
42017-12-21 22:43:12 UTCDanved Okey, I'm sorry. Is there a way for me to revert my changes or can you do it for me?
52017-12-22 01:35:49 UTCGazer75 Not a big deal as you did a small area. We all start somewhere :)
I'll ask for someone to revert the changes as I'm not experienced with that myself.

Mapping with aerials as the main source of info is not a good idea. They are often not aligned properly due to poor elevation data when georectify...
12017-12-16 10:15:01 UTCGazer75 Trur linja Samnanger-Fana er 300kV no. Stasjonen i Samnanger konverterer 420kV -> 300kV -> 132kV etter at linja frå Sima kom inn.
22017-12-16 11:20:15 UTCFredrikLindseth Var det som jeg skrev som stod på NVE sine nettsider. Hvis du har noen annen info er det bare å endre. Regner med det blir retagging av spenninger hvis/når det kommer oppdatert data fra NVE.
32017-12-16 11:36:11 UTCGazer75 Du såg ikkje på linjene i stasjonen i Samnanger altså :P
Ikkje lett å få 275kV frå 300kV utan ein transformator :P
12017-12-15 01:55:49 UTCGazer75 Å legge aerialway= i relasjonen lagar litt rare resultat. Sjå på øvre og nedre stasjonsbygning :)
22017-12-16 11:32:23 UTCFredrikLindseth ah :-p.
Husker jeg brukte mye tid på å prøve å finne ut hvordan jeg skulle tagge dette og endte ikke opp med noe bra.
12017-11-30 11:11:09 UTCGazer75 Do not use separate way for turn lanes in OSM. Only lanes physically separated should have its own way.
12017-07-21 10:52:42 UTCEntur AS | Johan Wiklund Is this the streetname on the signs? Official street name from Norwegian map authorty says "Krukeveien".
22017-07-21 13:41:02 UTCAndreas Köppen Hei Johan!

Yes, it is the official streetname from norwegian authorty, and it is written on the streetsigns. The name is >>Krugeveien<< from Hvasserveien to Krukeveien!

Hilsen Andreas
32017-07-21 13:54:19 UTCGazer75 Sorry Andreas but street signs and official name is not the same. Street signs often use local dialects. Official address name is showin the nodes imported from Kartverket.
42017-07-21 14:00:26 UTCGazer75 If you do not like the official name then send a complaint to Kartverket or local authority and it will be considered there. Municipalities are known to set up street signs with names in dialect in many places.
52017-07-21 14:04:17 UTCEntur AS | Johan Wiklund You should probably change it back or it will mismatch with all other databases (people searching with car navigation etc).
62017-07-21 14:06:15 UTCEntur AS | Johan Wiklund (and you should change your garden from "park" to "garden" with "access=private". Also, naming your house and garden is not common practice in OSM :) - even if its pretty and funny.
12017-07-21 09:02:12 UTCGazer75 Where did you find info about a ferry between Liabyda and Eidsdal?
22017-07-21 09:03:14 UTCGazer75 Emergency routes should not be in the map as it will mess up routing.
32017-07-21 09:06:49 UTCSkippern The ferry routes was already mapped, I mainly only added the relations.

I think the emergency route should be mapped, but maybe use different tagging to avoid routing problems, i.e. route=emergency_ferry
42017-07-21 09:10:07 UTCGazer75 Strange... I did some editing there not long ago and didn't remember seeing this route.

Routers do not care about relations they only see the route=ferry and use that (as long as it is connected to a road)
52017-07-21 10:28:04 UTCSkippern I'm travelling right now, but I can change the route tag on the emergency route to avoid routing mistakes. Didn't check when the different routes was added, I just added relations on the routes. I am spending the summer months in this region, but mostly a little further north.
62017-07-21 13:17:26 UTCGazer75 Found the route in the list of emergency routes. Download pdf at and look on page 51.
12017-07-02 03:52:08 UTCGazer75 Er Ring 2 flytta til Kværnerveien? Litt dårlig klassifisering i området. Bør ikkje hoppe opp og ned slik mellom trunk, tertiary og primary. Om Ring 2 fortsatt går via Bispegata og St. Harvards gate så burde vel den kanskje få secondary?
22017-07-02 05:01:56 UTCTarall Ring 2 er flytta. Har til og med snakka med Statens vegvesen om dette (som for øvrig ikke har oppdatert veikartet sitt). Hun jeg prata med var helt klar på at Ring 2 er flytta til Kværnerveien. Google-maps er oppdatert, bortsett fra at de ikke har greid å fjerne den utdatert...
32017-07-02 07:04:27 UTCGazer75 Så Kværnerveien skal vere Kv161 + Ring2?
Bør vel få fikse samanhengande primary frå E6 og fjerne ref på St. Halvards gate vest for Kværnerveien. Kva med Dyvekes vei? Den står som secondary ned til Bispegata. Virkar litt feil å la secondary ende...
42017-07-02 08:43:17 UTCTarall Kværnerveien skal være Ring 2. Ring 2 skal starte/ende i øst i E6 (trafikkmaskina i Lodalen). Sjekk google-maps. Dyvekes vei skal nedgraderes til samme nivå som Bispegata. Krysset Oslo gate / Bispegata heter forøvrig "Oslo torg". Navnsatt i 1997, på gr...
52017-07-02 08:53:49 UTCTarall For øvrig skal også Dronning Eufmeias gate og Langkaia nedgraderes (jf. Bispegata). Ser at det er en haug med gamle E18-markeringer som henger igjen i Bjørvika. Litt dumt. E18 går nå via Bjørvikatunnelen (under vannet) og derfra videre via ymse tunneler i begge...
62017-07-02 14:53:37 UTCGazer75 Husk på at det er ingen fylkesvegar i Oslo, så det har vore lagt opp med eit eige system for å få god ruting her. Vi må nok berre vente på data frå SVV og Oslo kommune når det gjeld Bjørvika. Meiner og at eg fekk beskjed ein gong at vegen fr&ari...
72017-07-02 18:59:02 UTCTarall Uansett er det uproblematisk å rette opp i området Gamlebyen/Lodalen! Slik google-maps har gjort. Unødig å henge etter her, tykkjer eg!
82017-07-02 21:51:51 UTCGazer75 Har fiksa samanhengande primary og ref for Ring 2 på Kværnerveien. Meldt inn eit feilspørsmål på Dronning Eufemias gate til SVV via så får vi sjå kva svaret blir ;)
92017-07-03 06:32:10 UTCGazer75 Fekk svar at Dronning Eufemias gate fortsatt skal vere del av E18
102017-07-03 07:07:24 UTCTarall Ok. Takk. Flott med rensing i Ring 2 /161 Dyvekes vei kan du uansett nedgradere. Det har t.o.m. Vegsvesenet gjort på kartet sitt.
112017-07-03 08:10:05 UTCNKA Dyvekes vei og Bispegata har samme funksjonelle vegklasse fra Oslo kommune som de andre secondary i byen.
122017-07-03 08:17:56 UTCGazer75 Kan vere at dei blir nedgradert til kl 5, men at det ikkje kjem fram i NVDB endå. Slike ting kan ofte ta lang tid.
12017-07-01 20:24:53 UTCGazer75 Ikkje del opp vegane slik om det ikkje er fysisk skilje mellom felta. Bruk turn:lanes i staden for.
12017-06-28 13:46:49 UTCGazer75 Please do not Bing map in Norway unless you know what you are doing. Placing or moving stuff so that it is over roads and buildings should cause a bell to ring, telling you the aerial might be wrong.
If you see anything sourced with Kartverket and/or NVDB then that is official data and will most li...
12017-06-04 10:06:09 UTCGazer75 Why add this water here?? There is no such thing. Unless they tore down the house recently to make a big pool or something.
12017-06-03 12:57:49 UTCGazer75 Something went wrong with one of your edits. You've moved a node for the residential area and the path you made is really messed up somehow.
12017-05-11 21:37:56 UTCGazer75 No point editing stuff in this area. it will be replaced with official data. Wait until the import is done and then you can improve it if needed. DG Premium is still not properly georectified so it will be offset in many places.
22017-05-16 11:36:49 UTCimagico So you want to ban manual mapping from Norway to make it easier to create and maintain a map based on 'official' data there? That would be an extremely short sighted attitude.

If you want to address problems with the alignment of images (which are indeed severe in some parts of Norway) a good wa...
32017-05-16 12:26:50 UTCGazer75 Did I say anything about banning? Edits during import will slow it down significantly. Just wanted to notify you of this. It's much better to improve the N50 data after import if needed. I stay away from municipalities with a lot of manual data even it if is badly mapped with offset aerials. Just to...
42017-05-16 12:34:49 UTCGazer75 You can follow the progress of import of N50 data here:
52017-05-16 12:47:57 UTCimagico I was referring to the "No point editing stuff in this area." remark which is pretty unfriendly to someone manually mapping stuff in the area.

As far as the "semantic nonsense" is concerned - i pointed out some of the problems in the import discussion - in particular regarding...
62017-05-16 12:53:47 UTCGazer75 Maybe its a language thing. If it came across as unfriendly then that was not my intent. I wanted to be short and to the point.
What discussion? Where?
72017-05-16 13:48:36 UTCimagico I mentioned this primarily in

and in subsequent discussion (continuing in June 2014)

12017-05-04 22:33:53 UTCGazer75 You changed the relation to a ferry route...
22017-05-04 22:38:28 UTCGazer75 Norway main land that is
12017-04-14 06:47:39 UTCGazer75 Please stop Bing mapping Norway if you have no idea how to. Bing is terribly offset in many places and you're wasting time.
You even completely ignored the raw GPS data for roads which would tell you Bing is not good here.
22017-04-14 19:24:16 UTCArGeBre Alright - sorry bout that! I saw a road going right through a lake. Apparently the lake was mapped from Bing also. Lessons learnt - wont happen again!
32017-04-14 20:12:05 UTCArGeBre Changset is undone. Please check if I missed something. And thanks for the hint...
42017-04-14 20:27:33 UTCGazer75 Its all good. Much of the roads are being imported from official free data. Just takes time as we do not have many active mappers and only some know how to do this properly. Automatic import is bad so has to be done fairly manual.

Same goes for water, coastline and landuse. Though this data is on...
52017-04-14 20:40:12 UTCGazer75 You can actually look at and see how poorly aligned the imagery is.
The roads in Bing are where they should be as it is official data.
12017-04-07 06:57:35 UTCGazer75 Du må passe på primary og secondary når du importerer. Her har du endra fv43 og 461 frå primary til secondary.
22017-04-07 13:09:36 UTCEivindWAA Takk for info, håper det ble rettet med
12017-04-07 06:52:22 UTCGazer75 Fv455 og 459 er "primary" då det er skilta fylkesveg. Dette bør ein sjekke under import ;)
22017-04-07 13:41:09 UTCEivindWAA fikset 459 med

455 med
12017-03-31 15:10:35 UTCGazer75 Please do not alter road class in countries you do not know. All E routes and national roads in Norway are classed as trunk road in OSM.
12017-03-28 12:28:20 UTCGazer75 Greit å opne vegen igjen når arbeid er ferdig :) Vegen har vore open sidan desember 2015.
22017-03-28 12:34:23 UTCGazer75 Fiksa problemet ;)
32017-03-28 21:08:19 UTCNoen Lett å glemme når man ikke bor i området. Skal bruke meg på temporary:*=* @ (time range) tagging neste gang!
42017-03-28 23:25:59 UTCGazer75 Temporary er ikkje i bruk. Er vel conditional som gjeld. Ikkje mange som støttar conditional endå...
Brukar ein kalendar her på slike ting.
Den minner meg på slike ting ein gong pr mnd.
12017-03-27 12:14:21 UTCGazer75 Please do not move house number nodes to buildings. they should be left as separate nodes. Helps verification and updates from official data later.
22017-03-27 12:16:29 UTCGazer75 I see you actually added the addr tags to building. This creates duplicates as we use separate nodes in Norway.
12017-03-22 20:34:31 UTCGazer75 Stop breaking map with Bing mapping. Bing is not to be used unless you know it is properly georectified. The road was already lined up with official data from the Norwegian Mapping Authority.
12017-03-22 19:30:13 UTCGazer75 Really not needed in a route going back and forth between A and B.
22017-03-22 20:16:43 UTCFredrikLindseth I guess my plan was to make it public_transport:version=2 at some point, but I guess a relation was a bit overkill at this moment :-)
12017-03-18 12:48:16 UTCGazer75 Vinstra is not a city. A town at best. Cities in are normally 100k people. In Norway this is 50k with exceptions of Tromsø, Bodø, Kristiansand.
Please do not mistake the city status some places have given themselves after 1996 as the same. Places with less than 1000 people have city s...
12017-02-20 11:07:00 UTCGazer75 Please do not edit with Bing in Norway unless you know what you're doing.
House number nodes should never be moved, these are imported from the Norwegian Mapping Authority and have high quality position. They can actually be of great help to see if Bing is bad.
12017-01-02 14:51:35 UTCGazer75 So they have actually signposted this road with the white number signs?
22017-01-02 20:47:59 UTCSM031
32017-01-02 22:31:54 UTCGazer75 That's down between fv213 and the "new" connection to E6 and fv255 south of Storhove. If you haven't visually verified signs north of this yourself then please do not alter class.
NVDB list no signs outside this roundabout:
42017-01-03 07:49:20 UTCSM031 Viser også til dette:

Bildet fra Wikipedia er ikke tatt i den nye forbindelsen mellom E 6 og fv 312, men rett nord for rundkjøringen mellom fv 213 og fv 312.
52017-01-03 12:21:23 UTCGazer75 Flott! Då er den grei. Om du bur i området så kan du kanskje sjekke 312 mellom Granrudmoen og Tretten også?
Ser ut til at SVV går bort frå det normale her. Normalt sett har vegklasse 2 og 3 vore skilta, men no ser det ut til at dei også skiltar 4. Får...
12017-01-02 01:36:22 UTCGazer75 Tunnelen er ikkje åpna!
12016-12-29 12:52:33 UTCGazer75 Veit ikkje kven som har lagt motortrafikkveg inn der, men det er feil. Teknisk sett så er faktisk "trunk" i OSM det samme som motortrafikkveg her i Norge, men sidan vi brukar den på alle riks- og europavegar, så blir det feil. Vi brukar motorroad=yes på motortrafikk...
22016-12-29 12:59:02 UTCGazer75 Kan legge til at litt av grunnen er at vi setter "class" til vegeigar. Fylkesvegar kan og vere motortrafikkveg og kan jo då ikkje taggas som motorveg. Men som "primary/secondary" + motorroad=yes
12016-12-23 13:10:35 UTCGazer75 Please don't alter roads that have already been improved with data from Kartverket and/or NVDB. Unless you use an industrial grade GPS, or the road have changed significantly, data from Kartverket will always be better quality.
12016-12-08 11:36:40 UTCGazer75 Vaskehallen er ikkje teikna inn på kartet. Det du markerte som vaskehall her faktisk taket på truck diesel pumpene :)
12016-11-11 12:27:10 UTCGazer75 Did they actually close this before completing the new temporary ramp?
There is no mention of this on the projects Facebook page.
12016-11-07 18:12:51 UTCGazer75 Short constructions like this do not really warrant a map edit. There will be a lot of tunnels closed at different times due to maintenance.
12016-10-18 01:17:04 UTCGazer75 Is the tunnel closed? Can't find any info about that at
22016-10-18 21:41:18 UTCalpesk No, it's not closed. I can't see any info about that on Open Street Map. I changed some info about a month ago that pedestrians and cyclists are not admitted on this road.
32016-10-19 01:50:00 UTCGazer75 The access=no tag is a blanket one that will not allow anything. Should never be used unless completely closed. Simply use foot=no and bicycle=no
12016-10-17 18:59:40 UTCGazer75 Du har laga alt for komplisert kryss mellom rv3 rampar og fv215/601. Heilt unødvedig og kan lage rare problem for ruting software.
Skal heller ikkje vere eigen "way" for avkøyringsfelt (Haugedalsveien mot rv3) i OSM. Bruk heller turn:lanes=
12016-09-16 04:03:07 UTCGazer75 Intersection for fv410 and 420 needs a lot of fixing. Do not use separate ways for lanes at intersections and crossing ways over another like this.
Use turn lanes and turn restrictions.
Only lanes physically divded by kerbs or similar should have separate ways.
22016-09-16 04:38:52 UTCNKA Agree. This is a problem from the Elveg import data. Will look into it.
32016-09-16 06:11:12 UTCGazer75 I had that intersection perfectly mapped out before you replaced it with Elveg :)
42016-09-16 06:13:20 UTCGazer75 Never replace existing roads unless you have local knowledge of the road and know that what is there is wrong ;)
52016-09-16 07:00:22 UTCNKA Agree. I know this place very well.
12016-08-27 08:40:41 UTCGazer75 Please use english description.

From google translate I see you used BIng to map this? I would advice against using Bing in Norway unless you have very good reference gps points or local knowledge. The Bing aerials are often very poorly georectified in Norway.
22016-09-03 16:39:45 UTCPapalinux Hi Gazer75,
thanks for your mean. I was in Holidays in Norway and have saw, that OSM is uncomplite. That was my fist try for correct the map. Now I have real GPS-Tracks and will send this in the next days.
12016-08-27 08:26:18 UTCGazer75 Vær snill å ikkje kall "changesets" for Div. Gi meir info om kva som er endra.
12016-08-17 16:34:11 UTCGazer75 Vegen kunne vel like godt vore fjerna heilt då den ikkje vil sjå ut slik i framtida? Ny veg ligg inne som "construction".
22016-08-19 17:15:23 UTCStyrheim Nå er det ei ukes tid siden jeg forlot Kongsberg. Men da var veien fortsatt der, synlig i terrenget. Og så lenge den er fysisk til stede, tror jeg det kan være en god idé at den er like synlig på kartet som i terrenget?

I alle fall - det viktigste er nok at GPS'ene ...
12016-08-13 08:23:10 UTCGazer75 Your import made duplicate ways along the coastline. Also the coastlines have no dates from Kartverket. And please check existing data before overwriting with an import. I've had to fix all the ferry terminals...
22016-08-13 09:16:43 UTCcmeeren Beklager på det sterkeste! Dette var bare slurv fra min side. De gamle kystlinjene var så håpløst unøyaktige at jeg overhodet ikke tenkte på at linjene rundt fergeterminaler kunne være oppdaterte.

De fleste kystlinjene har dato, men ikke alle - jeg slo ...
32016-08-13 10:49:16 UTCGazer75 Import av ein kommune så stor som Gulen ville nok eg brukt noken timar på. Den er ikkje den verste pga lite eksisterande data.
Hyllestad rett nord for Gulen brukte eg vel halve dagen på ;)
12016-08-10 12:41:32 UTCØystein Bjørndal (1) Could you please use a more descriptive changset comment than "fixing the map"
(2) What is the purpose of this change, I checked a few of the edits and you seem to be replacing e.g. name="Rema 1000 Lakselv" with "Rema 1000" which I fail to see the advantage of.
22016-08-10 20:03:34 UTCFredrikLindseth The names of the shops on their webpage clearly states their names as "Rema 1000 $place" ref
This edit is clearly not correct
32016-08-13 08:26:06 UTCGazer75 Someone need to revert this change. All supermarkets like this should have its location name. Makes it easier to look up in a navigation device.
42016-08-13 22:07:41 UTCHelgeO I have a backup of the dataset before the change and can revert. It need some time to process it.

I have not replied before as I have tried to get in contact with Rema 1000 to get a statement from them regarding this issue.

If you look at the shop - at least any shop that I have been in you wi...
52016-08-14 05:24:55 UTCØystein Bjørndal Please do the revert. I see no disadvantage of having rema 1000 $place but I see the advantages.

In addition to the points mentioned, my guess from looking at the job section of, is that if you ask an employee he will tell you he works at rema 1000 $place.

Feel free to discuss an impor...
62016-08-21 09:47:08 UTCØystein Bjørndal Any progress on reverting this? You may find the following proposal of interest as it seems to be accepted: Note also the use of capital letters, which should be REMA 1000 $place.
72017-01-03 18:55:02 UTCØystein Bjørndal Since you have not fixed this, I reverted this with changeset 44868733.
12016-07-31 17:55:23 UTCGazer75 Why change this to construction?
22016-07-31 18:02:25 UTCdocschenk Because IT IS construction at the moment. There even is a deviation for cyclists (about + 10km, about + 500 m elevation). I somehow managed to pass the construction site but had to carry my bike some meters and also couldn't ride for another some 100 meters.
32016-07-31 18:56:36 UTCGazer75 The entire stretch of road is still under construction? I thought the road past the residential area at Espavegen 781 is not closed?
12016-07-30 11:46:30 UTCGazer75 This change broke
If you do not know how to deal with large multipolygons then please ask for help fixing errors.

I have fixed the problem.
22016-08-10 16:47:09 UTCridixcr Hey there!

Thanks for notifying me about this change. I will be more careful in future especially when working on large multipolygons and relations.

Thank you for your feedback.
12016-06-03 08:32:02 UTCGazer75 Please do not edit roads and things you know nothing about. You reverted my edit around Anda. Was tempted to revert the entire changeset, but I have instead fixed your road mistakes.

Ask the previous editor if you find data that might not match before editing.
22016-06-03 11:10:21 UTCtknudsen Dear sir, what external source are you using that allow you to indicate that my edits are false? Please answer and do not do any more changes until we figure out what source is more valid.
32016-06-03 11:28:19 UTCGazer75 My own eyes?
They altered the area when the runway was made longer.
You can check out Google, Bing, Norge i bilder and if you do not believe me.
42016-06-03 11:40:51 UTCtknudsen Thank you for your answer.. I used statens kartverk for changing this, but will re-check when I get home from work. Do you know when they changed this due to extension of the runway.. Reason why I am asking is that we are making the the airport for x-plane and we are using the map to populate roads ...
52016-06-03 12:05:55 UTCGazer75 Karverket can be slow to update some data. Though "Norge i bilder" is showing the new runway and E39 in a picture taken May 2013. Further back in 2010 it was still under construction. Looks like Google map aerial is from around 2010. Bing however have a more recent one showing the longer r...
62016-06-03 12:14:40 UTCGazer75 Keep in mind that "Norge i bilder" can not be used as a source when editing here. This data is not considered open.
72016-06-03 14:19:28 UTCtknudsen I have permission to use Norge i Bilder and their wms version is even more detailed within JOSM. But I did check and it seems that Norge i bilder has some older imagery showing the runway not to be updated, so I checked with statkart and it seems to be correct. So for me this is truly ok. Thank you ...
82016-06-03 15:03:48 UTCGazer75 If you have a written permission by Kartverket to use those aerials in OSM then you need to post a copy of the permit on the mailing list and put on the OSM wiki. If this is a permission for only you then you can not use it in OSM.
I needs to be reported in as a source we can legally use.
92016-06-03 16:08:14 UTCtknudsen The permission is for my company and cannot be shared with the community for all to use.
102016-06-03 16:33:58 UTCGazer75 But then you are not allowed to use this in OSM. Data used in OSM need to be open data, not some data that one person have access to.
112016-06-03 16:41:37 UTCGazer75 Only data from Kartverket that can be used in OSM is what you find at which is licensed under CC BY 4.0
122016-06-04 23:52:33 UTCtknudsen I use my wms data in JOSM, this works great, I also use data from statkart to check in accordance with OSM, been doing this for years. Have a good one. Case closed.
132016-06-05 00:14:51 UTCGazer75 This is not a closed case. Will take this with the OSM data working group. Can't have OSM end up in a copyright problem.
You might end up with account ban and all data reverted. Really hope not, but they are very strict on this. So unless you can show a letter saying they explicitly allow you to us...
142016-06-05 22:23:13 UTCtknudsen Do what you like, I have all in perfect order so I have nothing to worry about,There is not copyright issue here, but do what you feel you need to do :)

Norgeibilder has no user restrictions
152016-06-05 23:43:52 UTCGazer75 Sent a request for clarification on this.
From what I can tell the wms data is restricted and not released under NLOD or CC BY.
Some of the data have no icon under open data column, but that doesn't mean it can be used. Only data with a green ope...
162016-06-06 08:07:23 UTCGazer75 Got a reply from Jon Arne Trollvik saying no, the Norge i bilder WMS data can not be used for OSM. It has licensing and is not open. So please stop using your WMS access to edit.
12016-03-04 11:17:44 UTCGazer75 Bør bruke conditional access tags her. Date on/off skal ikkje brukast lenger.
22016-03-05 17:35:49 UTCNoen Jeg følgte taggingen beskrevet i dette forslaget:
Mulig forslaget er utdatert?
32016-03-05 17:45:35 UTCGazer75 Var ein gammal draft der der. Ikkje klar over at den eksisterte.
42016-03-05 17:48:55 UTCGazer75 date_on og date_off var satt som utdatert i 2013.
12016-02-20 19:47:27 UTCGazer75 Where is the approval to use these aerials? I have never seen this been discussed on the mailing list.
12016-02-19 19:46:14 UTCGazer75 Her har du laga mykje rot i N50 importen....
22016-02-19 19:59:50 UTCHjart I think I may have connected a lot of very short similarly tagged coastlines, but other than that?
32016-02-19 20:13:06 UTCGazer75 Ups! Wrong set. You were listed as having changed a relation and a border. Apparently Mr. Lindseth is the one to blame :)
12015-07-25 18:05:07 UTCGazer75 Denne laga veldig mange duplikat. Ver så snill å samle data med eksisterande.
22015-07-25 18:07:41 UTCGazer75 Kva source har du brukt? Manuel leiting på nett?
32016-02-19 20:07:27 UTCGazer75 Har du tenkt å rydde opp?
12016-01-16 06:33:30 UTCGazer75 Ver så snill å ikkje importere blindt. Masse av importen har faktisk laga kartet dårlegare. Ta inn Elveg data der det ikkje er gater fra før.
12015-11-20 20:06:00 UTCGazer75 Så heile Knappetunnelen er skilta som motorveg??
12015-11-13 08:57:29 UTCGazer75 Do not move house number nodes if you do not know what you are doing. These are very good quality data from Kartverket. Moving them destroys the accuracy of the map.
If the nodes do not match the aerial imagery then assume the aerial is wrong. Bing and other aerials are often misaligned with the re...
12015-11-07 07:43:29 UTCGazer75 Why was Ski upgraded to city? If a place with 10-15000 people is considered a city then we have a lot of them :)

Listed population is for the entire municipality and not the town itself. According to SSB the town itself has 12344. Population number set currently includes Ås as well.
22015-11-07 09:18:33 UTCØystein Bjørndal I used the 'by-status', "I 2004 valgte kommunestyret i Ski å gi tettstedet bystatus."

Hvis det er feil er det bare å endre tilbake igjen.
32015-11-07 09:23:41 UTCGazer75 Trur vi må ta vurdering etter andre kriterier. Rjukan har også by status men under 1500 innbyggere ;)
42015-11-07 09:34:20 UTCØystein Bjørndal det er du som snakker om antall innbyggere, jeg har bare sett på 'by-status'. Hvis det er slik at man skal tagge etter antall innbyggere får du endre tilbake. Jeg har brukt SSR som kilde fordi Ski ligger inne som 'city' i SSR importen.
52015-11-07 09:38:34 UTCGazer75 Om du sjekker wiki så snakkar den faktisk om city for byer over 100k.
Ein kan ikkje bruke bystatus i OSM.
12015-11-04 02:50:34 UTCGazer75 Please undo this set. Aerials in this area is badly aligned. Its clearly visible when you look at the house numbers. They are from the Norwegian mapping agency and are normally accurate to less than a meter. They are also normally placed at the house main entrance.
22015-11-04 03:00:56 UTCGazer75 A Bing offset of 2.35; 13.70 is good for the houses you added.
12015-09-13 20:44:15 UTCGazer75 Du har sett feil klasse på fv 561. Den skal vere primary.
12015-08-28 19:23:33 UTCGazer75 Never use Bing to correct data unless you've surveyed it. Especially house number nodes are never to be moved unless surveyed. Data from the Norwegian Mapping Authority (Kartverket) is usually of better quality. If you notice a large number of number nodes not aligning with Bing then Bing is most li...
12015-08-27 17:08:23 UTCGazer75 Do not move house numbers imported from the Norwegian Mapping Authority unless you know it is wrong from gps or local knowledge. And never use Bing over data from "Kartverket". Only reason to do that is if you have local knowledge from survey or GPS that match Bing.

I have already corre...
22015-08-28 08:58:21 UTCChristian Madsen Thank you.
12015-08-21 10:59:41 UTCGazer75 Please do not change road class unless you know how the system works in Norway. This road is a national highway and is therefore a trunk road. Please revert this change.
22015-08-21 12:02:18 UTCProtoni Realy? Then I will revert this change.
But I have looked at
There are written: Streets with three digits are primary roads.
I think, in this area the national highway E18 is the Operatunnelen.
32015-08-21 17:38:40 UTCGazer75 The number of digits have nothing to do with it. Its the background of the sign that is important. National roads and E routes use green. Primary county roads use white.
Keep in mind the Norwegian Public Roads Administration are sometimes slow to replace signs if they change something. Like the nat...
12015-08-21 11:07:34 UTCGazer75 Please revert the road class changes. They are wrong. E route and national highways in Norway are trunk class.
12015-08-21 10:39:30 UTCGazer75 Why did you change this? This road is an E route road and thus should be trunk. All E routes and national highways in Norway will always be trunk or higher class.
12015-07-21 11:50:52 UTCGazer75 Waste of time to do any coastline edits with Bing in Norway. They are being updated slowly by better data from Norwegian Mapping Authority. Bing is also not adviced to use much in Norway as its often badly georeferenced.
22015-07-21 13:30:56 UTCHjart I agree . In Norway using Bing alone is not a good idea, since it is often 30-100 m off and you can't even expect it to be equally much off anywhere. You really need to consult the gps layers and Strava heatmaps wherever available.
12015-07-07 16:43:05 UTCGazer75 Hah! Ja Bing er håplaust mange plassar. Ser at fv60 frå Hellesylt til Sykkylven er ganske ille. Skal sjå om eg kan ta den med NVDB/Elveg overlay ein dag.

Er nokre tettstader som er mappa med dårleg Bing som vil krevje masse arbeid å rette opp i.
22015-07-08 07:50:04 UTCanderfo Stemmer. Istedet for å aktivt korrigere mye offset har jeg bestemt meg for å lære bort litt om dette til de som har gjort inntegninga. F.eks. å tipse dem om å bruke N50 og Strava heatmap som bakgrunn for å korrigere offset. Jeg har fått tilbakemelding fra fl...
32015-07-08 08:13:28 UTCGazer75 Wikien kan endrast litt. Strava ligg inne alt og treng ikkje leggjast til i JOSM
42015-07-08 08:15:06 UTCanderfo Fordelen med å legge det inn selv er at man da kan få valgt en passelig farge og opacity på heatmap.

I tillegg kan man legge inn sin egen personlige Stravaheatmap (som kan oppdateres på et blunk), men det har jeg ikke beskrevet på wikien.
12015-07-03 18:28:54 UTCGazer75 Kvar har du dette frå?
22015-07-03 21:33:25 UTCgormur Det kan hende jeg var litt rask på labben når jeg leste denne (eller en annen gjengivelse av Vegvesenet si pressemelding).
32015-07-03 21:39:40 UTCGazer75 Stemmer. Det var vel ledebil gjennom der ei stund.
12015-06-30 18:20:20 UTCGazer75 651 Volda-Nordfjordeid is still a national highway and thus a trunk road. Please revert this change.
12015-06-30 18:17:00 UTCGazer75 This is a national highway and thus a trunk road. Please revert this change.
All national roads and E roads are trunks in Norway.
12015-04-24 10:50:37 UTCGazer75 Her har du rota det til :P Bergen er full av skog :)
22015-04-24 10:52:55 UTCGazer75 Ser ut til at det er som har feil
12015-04-22 22:30:18 UTCGazer75 Eit par ting her. Myr området ved dagens IKEA er jo ikkje myr så der burde du ha fjerna litt og laga nye linjer. Altså "merge". Er difor Bergen kan blir ei utfordring med å ta høgde for eksisterande data.
Når du la inn vatn så brukte du kun N50 o...
22015-04-23 16:07:04 UTCfrokor Ja, det har du heilt rett i. Har prøvd å retta det opp att så godt som rå. Har sjølvsagt prøvd å la det som er gjort bra være i fred. Spesielt i Åsane-området, og i sentrumsområdet er det veldig mykje data. Mange nodar på sm&...
32015-04-23 23:40:59 UTCGazer75 Er difor eg utsette Bergen :) Rekna med å bruke over ei veke total arbeidstid på den kommunen åleine pga alle eksisterande data.
12015-04-23 13:26:33 UTCGazer75 What kind of fixes were these? If you altered the segments then you need to update the source and remove the date from Kartverket import. This is important for future updates of Kartverket N50 data.
12015-04-22 14:10:14 UTCGazer75 Er det noko feil med data her? Lange rette kutt i skogen rundt Trengereid?
22015-04-22 17:07:32 UTCfrokor Det er ein veg som ikkje vart lasta opp, truleg fordi JOSM slutta å svare under opplastinga. Driv og går over området på ny, og lastar opp i mindre bolkar, så reknar med det snart er på plass.
32015-04-22 17:20:56 UTCfrokor Nei, han var ikkje lukka. Er i orden no når eg får lasta opp endringa.
42015-04-22 22:15:48 UTCGazer75 ja såg neste ut som du hadde byta om på kva poly som var outer og inner :)
12015-04-22 13:26:35 UTCGazer75 Problemene med Nore Uvdal kan fiksast med å slette data. Det som er lagt inn er av dårlegare kvalitet enn Karverkets N50, så vi må ta den kommunen på nytt uansett.
22015-04-22 13:46:34 UTCanderfo Jepp, men litt sketchy å slette data - dette gjelder både denne importen og corine-importen. Men vi kan kanskje slette dersom det er uendret etter import?
32015-04-22 14:01:56 UTCGazer75 Ja klart det. Tenkte meir på at ein ikkje bruka tid på og fikse på data som bør bytast ut seinare. Duplicate nodes fiksar JOSM "automatisk" så det går jo greit.

Blir bra med litt N50 ;) Norge ser ganske trist og øde ut i dag.
42015-04-22 14:11:54 UTCanderfo Problemet var egentlig at JOSM ikke ville la meg laste opp data med valideringsfeil i - og feilene i nabokommunen gjorde det dessuten vanskeligere enn vanlig å detektere feil i mitt eget datasett (bruker jo JOSM validering for å finne bl.a. duplikatnoder der) siden de få duplikatno...
52015-04-22 14:18:16 UTCGazer75 Var det så ille!? hmm...
Eg kjem nok til å ta litt etter kvart som eg gidd å arbeide med det. Tenker å fullføre Hordaland så lenge eg ikkje går lei :)
62015-04-24 15:17:26 UTCanderfo Det var ille, ja ;) Sjekk OSM Inspector for Nore og Uvdal:,duplicate_ways,intersections,intersection_lines,ring_not_closed_hull,ring_not_closed,unconnected_end_nodes,touc...
12015-04-18 15:24:44 UTCGazer75 Pass på at det ikkje blir doble kystlinjer. JOSM validator vil gi beskjed om dette
22015-04-18 15:28:30 UTCGazer75 Er og eit par plassar kor desse doble øyane har feil retning på kystlinje
32015-04-18 15:38:58 UTCfrokor Ja, eg er klar over det. Det er i dette området eg har arbeidd mest tidlegare, så det vart meir plukk her enn i dei andre områda. Eg held på å rette opp i det, men kom ikkje i mål, før eg måtte eit æren. Skal ta det om litt.
42015-04-18 15:55:05 UTCGazer75 Då er det betre om du ventar med å laste opp til alt er ok. Andre som brukar OSM Inspector og diverse verktøy kan få beskjed om feil og vil då prøve å rette opp. Det kan lage meir arbeid for deg i ettertid. Snakkar av erfaring her ;)
12015-03-29 22:05:43 UTCGazer75 If you use special letters in names then make sure the streets match. No idea what the special sign is, but it's not available on any keyboard.
22015-03-29 22:55:27 UTCgormur Example?
32015-03-30 05:29:00 UTCGazer75 All names with an apostrophe. You can find them using OSM Inspector. Using this apostrophe is creating problems imo. Only way to type it in Windows is by using ALT+0146 on the numpad. No GPS unit I have seen is capable of typing this as well. Yes, there is a difference between ’ and ' First on...
42015-03-30 08:56:46 UTCgormur This changeset only touched the addr:postcode, as the comment clearly says. Please comment on the original changeset.
12015-02-20 16:09:09 UTCGazer75 Uskilta fylkesvegar skal vere "secondary"
12015-02-19 17:51:55 UTCGazer75 Å legge til "oneways" framfor alle rundkøyringar som har den vetle triangel øya er unødvendig etter mi meining. Lagar berre støy i kartet. Eg la dei inn når eg starta med OSM, men har heilt slutta med dette. Så lenge vengen ikkje er delt over e...
22015-02-19 18:40:27 UTCNoen Først må jeg si at hovedpoenget med dette endringsettet var legge inn gang og sykkelveiene.
Du har rett i at det ikke har noen betydning for ruting, om veien foran en rundkjøring er splittet opp eller ikke, men for å "representere virkeligheten" er det en releva...
32015-02-19 21:21:29 UTCGazer75 Ser det at du la til gang- og sykkelveg. Bra det.
Merka meg berre at du hadde lagt til alle desse stubbane også. For meg så er dette unødvendige detaljar som ikkje har praktisk betydning. Mange av desse små trekantane er vel maks 2x5 meter. "Mappe" to einvegsk&osl...
12015-02-14 16:28:51 UTCGazer75 Wouldnt use Bing in this area, it is terribly misaligned along all axis.
22015-02-14 18:28:02 UTCgormur I know. Bing wasn't much used, just left it in the source field by default...
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