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167631336
by Davlak
@ 2025-06-14 22:49
12025-07-11 21:45dieterdreist Ciao Davlak,

ho visto che hai cambiato railway=stop in railway=station per una delle stop position di Villa Bonelli. In realtà quella non è una station ma un halt, il tag è railway=halt e non va sul binario (ce ne sono già 2 in realtà, con la tua aggiunta erano ...
22025-07-11 21:51dieterdreist Vedo ora anche la fermata Magliana cambiata da railway=halt a railway=station. Come anche Fiera di Roma, Parco Leonardo, Palmiro Togliatti, Tor Sapienza e Tor di Nona. Secondo le mie ricerche nessuna di queste è una stazione, non hanno deviatori.

Saluti,
Martin
168581636
by gigi2037
@ 2025-07-06 23:27
12025-07-11 21:24dieterdreist Ciao Gigi2037, cosa vuol dire "invalid routes"? Ho notato che hai rimosso le stazioni mappate come aree che avevano il ruolo "stop", e creato doppini di stazioni ad esempio a Villa Bonelli,

saluti,
Martin
22025-07-11 21:25dieterdreist doppioni
32025-07-11 21:44gigi2037
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https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=pubtrans_routes&lon=12.52904&lat=41.91728&zoom=14&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&overlays=ptv2_routes_invalid%2Cptv2_error_ways%2Cptv2_error_nodes
prova con osm inspector erano stazioni non fermate
55208597
by mcheckimport
@ 2018-01-06 11:21
12025-07-06 14:51dieterdreist Ciao, mi chiedevo cos’è la fonte per il nome Parco Savello? Per me non è nemmeno un leisure=park quella area
168367138
by katherineherlihy
@ 2025-07-01 18:51
12025-07-01 22:00dieterdreist Please do not import arbitrary data without review, I noticed this footway does not meet the quality requirements we expect from contributions: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1411242604
it is not connected to anything, and an isolated sidewalk fragment like this is just pointless.
22025-07-01 22:11ivanbranco
♦2,701
Also, what's the meaning of #mapwithai-tm4-206? I tried searching it in the wiki but I got 0 results. The Organised Editing Guidelines say:

"Changeset comments should include the unique hashtag described on the wiki page under Organised Editing/Activities/Name of the Activity (as descri...
32025-07-01 22:16ivanbranco
♦2,701
Uhm ok, I think I found it: https://tasks.mapwith.ai/projects/206

I had to search the hashtag in the wiki without the number. I still think a link to the Tasking manager in the changeset metadata would be helpful. Good mapping
42025-07-03 13:32dieterdreist Yes, good mapping yes, but bad mapping no. The task has an "urgent" badge, how on earth could this be urgent? I don't think it should be delegated to beginners, because doing it right is not easy, you have to ensure connectivity and pay particular attention to crossings. Also sidewalk...
168365164
by katherineherlihy
@ 2025-07-01 17:57
12025-07-01 22:02dieterdreist also here, unconnected sidewalk island.
168366420
by katherineherlihy
@ 2025-07-01 18:29
12025-07-01 22:02dieterdreist Here's the same issue as in the other changeset: the imported sidewalks are not connected to anything.
160955173
by mpbin
@ 2025-01-03 15:52
Active block
12025-06-20 19:35dieterdreist Ciao, ho visto che hai tolto la forma societaria dal operator (tolto SpA), non capisco perché, per me più precisione è meglio di meno precisione, e nel tag name c’era già OVS senza Spa
166453960
by ine63
@ 2025-05-19 02:36
12025-05-22 06:35NeisReview
♦940
#DataImport

Hi, welcome to OSM!

With this changeset, you've added a significant number of features that appear to share similarities in their tags. Could you please let us know more about the source of your mapping activity? Is this a data import?

Looking forward to hearing from you.
...
22025-05-23 00:08ine63
♦4
Hi! thank u for your message.
The data in this changeset was mapped based on publicly available information provided by the Seoul Open Data Plaza.(https://data.seoul.go.kr/)
Please feel free to reach out again if you have any further questions. Thank you.
32025-05-23 05:34NeisReview
♦940
Thanks for your response. I think it would be helpful if the data source were mentioned in the changeset. Is the data's license compatible with OSM?
42025-06-20 13:43dieterdreist IMHO the tag "amenity=retail shops" that was not in actual use before your import should not have been used. Are you aware of the import guidelines, did you follow them?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines
52025-06-20 14:16adreamy
♦56
Please take this into consideration.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Korea_Open_Government_License
62025-06-20 15:04Jarek 🚲
♦323
Hello ine63,

These changesets are being discussed on the Community Forum due to questions about the tags used (meaning of "retail shops") and potential license issues. Can you contribute, in English or in Korean? https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/recent-import-introduced-new-tag-ame...
167550386
by 9r8k
@ 2025-06-12 20:17
12025-06-16 09:42dieterdreist grazie per aver agito sulla questione, però non avresti dovuto cancellare il bagno del cafè, se esiste. Il modo più corretto è indicare che si tratta di un bagno per i clienti, con access=customers. Invece se la posizione del bagno era errata, la risposta giusta è ...
22025-06-16 22:249r8k
♦3
Va bene, ho spostato il bagno un po.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/167715128

PS: Was für ein lustiger Zufall, dass du ganz "dreist" auf Italienisch geantwortet hast, weil ich Spaß daran habe, Italienisch zu lernen. ;)
32025-06-17 07:23dieterdreist Ich habe deshalb auf italienisch geantwortet weil mir nicht klar war dass du deutsch bist/sprichst, so dreist finde ich das nun nicht :) Bist du in Rom oder zu Besuch? Wir haben eine lokale Gruppe von Mappern die sich in der Vergangenheit gelegentlich getroffen hat, vielleicht könnte man das wi...
42025-06-19 10:539r8k
♦3
Grazie per l'offerta ma sono stato a Roma solo per vacanza e per visitare un'amica chi viene da Roma. In bocca al lupo per la gruppa OSM di Roma! Sarebbe un po' triste se non ci fossero abbastanza persone chi si interessano di OSM in una città così grande.
85338672
by MarcoGonnash1992
@ 2020-05-17 15:28
12025-06-04 22:48dieterdreist this comment doesn't make sense, the capital tag is about the status of the place, and if it is the capital of a level 6 entity the capital value has to be 6. Putting 8 is simply wrong.
137550208
by ivanbranco
@ 2023-06-20 08:11
12025-05-22 15:10dieterdreist Mi sembra strano che questo sia la prima versione dell'obelisco, l'ho mappato 15 anni fa, nella versione attuale, il perimetro del basamento è inserito come obelisco, da verificare...
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1183619459/history/1
22025-05-22 17:35ivanbranco
♦2,701
E' la prima versione dell'obelisco come area, prima era mappato come nodo.
32025-05-23 10:58dieterdreist ma come area è troppo grande, è tutta la base ora, l’obelisco è molto più piccolo
42025-05-23 11:00dieterdreist ecco la foto per illustrare il problema
https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelisco_del_Pincio?uselang=en#/media/File%3AAntinous_obelisk_Rome.jpg
164582864
by RivalgoAV
@ 2025-04-06 10:07
12025-05-21 15:46dieterdreist Ciao RivalgoAV, ho notato che hai cambiato i tag della stop position: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7086593095
ed era diventata una stazione su un binario, ma in questo caso abbiamo già la stazione mappata con la way 195133326. Ho già risolto, giusto per informazione.

buona ma...
163476933
by AlCeRoma
@ 2025-03-11 09:55
12025-05-07 10:36dieterdreist Ciao AlCe, ho visto che hai aggiunto il tag "amenity=animal_breeding" al ippodromo delle Capannelle https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/18807059 (prima https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/22875757 ). Siamo sicuri che quello è un buon abbinamento? Mi aspetterei piùttosto una ...
22025-05-07 14:25AlCeRoma
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sì, meglio taggare separatamente le due aree! Sul tag più appropriato da usare per l'area delle stalle non so quale sia la soluzione migliore, forse "animal_breeding=*" ? 👉🏻 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Tag:amenity=animal%20breeding?uselang=it
32025-05-08 08:55dieterdreist Per me `animal_breeding` non è da mettere in nessun modo ad un ippodromo, al meno che non ci sia attività di riproduzione. Se ci sono solo stalle non è animal breeding (covare animali). Si possono mappare le stalle dei cavalli come `building=stable`.
173897
by woodpeck
@ 2006-12-28 11:40
12023-10-06 20:30Stereo
♦359
Welcome aboard woodpeck!

Your additions help making the map more accurate and useful for everyone. There are two practices that can significantly enhance the quality of your contributions: providing clear changeset comments and maintaining a concise bounding box (bbox) for your changesets.

Cha...
22023-10-06 20:36woodpeck
♦2,431
Hey Guillaume, thank you, I'm still getting the knack of this OSM thing. Can you show me where I enter the changeset comment? I have JSOM build 422 on Java SE5. Do I need to upgrade?
32025-05-07 09:31dieterdreist if you don’t want to upgrade you should still patch your version so you can add these comments, but upgrading could likely save you some sweat and tears…
155239690
by mau59
@ 2024-08-14 12:57
12025-05-05 12:06dieterdreist ciao mau59, ti segnalo che ripristino https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/607644595/history che in questo changeset è stato sostituito con una nuova way senza gli attributi: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1307737499
22025-05-06 11:22mau59
♦16
Ti ringrazio dieterdreist! Un saluto
55375269
by dieterdreist
@ 2018-01-12 09:54
12025-05-03 09:00Mateusz Konieczny
♦7,666
Hello!

You used
cuisine=bistrot
on https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5334698164/history

Have you maybe meant
cuisine=bistro
?

I am pretty sure that it is a typo, but not sure enough to just replace it (I edited some objects where situation seemed more clear to me).

Or have you used ...
22025-05-04 07:54dieterdreist thank you, I fixed it. I somehow used French spelling…
128179715
by giorgio92
@ 2022-10-28 15:12
12025-04-30 11:26dieterdreist ciao Giorgio,
ho notato che hai inserito edifici con MapWithAI, che sono molto differenti rispetto a quello che si trova veramente lì, la forma è diversa. Ti chiedo di non farlo, se fosse possibile prendere e importare gli edifici che si ha sognato la AI di Microsoft, lo avremmo gi&a...
22025-05-01 05:29giorgio92
♦28
Ciao,
grazie della segnalazione, prima di usare lo strumento rapiD faccio sempre un check che gli edifici non siano troppo difformi
Sto cercando di usarlo sempre meno.
84589647
by GustavoE
@ 2020-05-04 03:29
12025-04-30 07:40dieterdreist Hi, also on this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/332077972 you added that it is related to ancient egypt, please verify, thank you.
22025-04-30 14:55GustavoE
♦16
It's already corrected
113012435
by GustavoE
@ 2021-10-26 22:16
12025-04-30 07:39dieterdreist Hello, I noticed that you added this archaeological site as related to ancient egypt: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9203454613/
Frankly, I find it very improbable, can you please verify?
Thank you,
Martin
63393543
by TWHB
@ 2018-10-10 20:01
12025-04-26 19:43dieterdreist Can you explain what you meant with this comment and why you deleted the quite old representation of the pedestrian area here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/309904/
74535008
by Janjko
@ 2019-09-16 14:10
12025-04-26 19:39dieterdreist Hi Janko, I think the colonnades should also be part of the square. Thank you for splitting square a pedestrian area though (unfortunately St. Peter’s Square is a back and forth due to the hundreds of mappers passing by every year/month)
128782435
by Map47
@ 2022-11-11 15:38
12025-04-17 16:08dieterdreist Ci sarà un motivo per aver "rimosso nomi" dalla piazza rappresentata con tag "highway"? Ora non c'è più un highway per piazza San Pietro. Ti chiederei di rimetterli, grazie.
22025-04-17 18:29Map47
♦35
I nomi della piazza San Pietro sono inseriti nella relazione https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10044166 che comprende tutto anche l'area pedonale.
La relazione https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7012828 definisce il tipo di superficie dell'area calpestabile della piazza, sei sicu...
32025-04-22 16:28dieterdreist Sì, la piazza San Pietro viene rappresentata dal elemento place=square, ma per highway la regola è avere il nome su tutti i pezzi. Non va tolto.
42025-04-22 19:16Map47
♦35
Si tratta appunto di una piazza, li non c'è nessuna strada, c'è la superficie pedonale della piazza che non ha un nome. In questo caso risulta più che mai opportuno non duplicare il nome della piazza alla superficie pedonale viste le numerose traduzioni del nome.
Prim...
52025-04-23 13:55dieterdreist Non sono d'accordo, è sempre opportuno mettere i nomi alle highway (se lo hanno). Se si tratta di "una piazza con nessuna strada", si potrebbe ipotizzare di cancellare le highway (ma non è la soluzione solita, dove si accettano questi percorsi "virtuali"). C�...
62025-04-23 16:42Map47
♦35
Appunto quelle "highway" non hanno nome. Quell'area pedonale é solo una parte della piazza, ne sono escluse le fontane e l'obelisco, quindi non é giusto chiamarla "Piazza San Pietro" evitando oltretutto una duplicazione di nomi non necessaria.
In generale...
72025-04-24 08:31dieterdreist è quasi sempre così per le highway, non rappresentano quasi mai “tutta” la strada, invece ogni pezzo ottiene il nome della strada e insieme sono la strada, e per le piazze è la stessa cosa.
82025-04-24 12:00ppku
♦6
Ciao dalla chat. Le strade carrabili in Italia prendono il nome ufficiale dalla piazza, se non ne hanno uno proprio. Ma non è una regola di OSM, e questo caso non è una strada carrabile.

Per quanto riguarda OSM, name è quello usato dalle persone per riferirsi all'oggetto...
92025-04-24 12:58dieterdreist esiste anche una discussione nel merito dove si conferma di non togliere i nomi:
https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/names-of-ways-within-squares-what-is-official-mapping-practise/94200/2
102025-04-24 13:00dieterdreist riferito a ppku: secondo te se chiedi una persona che si trova in questa area il nome, ti dirà “non ha nome” oppure “Piazza San Pietro”?
112025-04-24 13:47ppku
♦6
@dieterdreist Ma quel forum thread parla di strade. Map47 non ha toccato i foot path. Questo changeset tocca AREE pedonali. Per favore verifica su achavi https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=128782435
122025-04-24 13:51ppku
♦6
@dieterdreist Vedi che non c'è nella cronologia di

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/535197898

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/535197913
132025-04-25 12:02Map47
♦35
@dieterdreist Hai esordito chiedendo la motivazione della rimozione del none dall'area pedonale.
Hai ricevuto motivazioni logiche; non sono andate perse informazioni, sono stati rimossi dati duplicati.
In particolare possiamo dire che:
Sappiamo dove ci troviamo, grazie a place=square, ne con...
142025-04-25 17:15dieterdreist prova di fare il routing e vedrai che non funziona nel senso che le indicazioni testuali ti diranno di usare strade senza nome, perché i motori di routing si aspettano di avere il nome sulla highway.
Non è una mia idea personale di ripetere i nomi su tutte le highway, lo facciamo ovu...
152025-04-25 18:44Map47
♦35
Quello che segnali è un problema della applicazione del routing usato.
Se vuoi mappare per il routing puoi dare un nome a tutte le highway=footway della piazza.
162025-04-26 19:32dieterdreist questo non sarebbe quello che si intende con “mappare per il routing” e sarebbe corretto, concordo.
172025-04-26 19:33dieterdreist non è un problema di una specifica applicazione, è il comportamento di tutte le applicazioni (che conosco), perché si aspettano che i mappatori rispettino le convenzioni (mettere i nomi agli highway)
182025-04-26 19:41Map47
♦35
OK! Allora buona mappatura
136963163
by Map47
@ 2023-06-05 09:23
12025-04-22 16:33dieterdreist Ciao,
ho trovato questa area https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/15951998 che mi sembra creata da te, ma non ne sono del tutto certo (forse hai solo risolto un problema geometrico). Mi sembra strano una area pedonale perché il centro storico è ZTL e le macchine ci vanno.
22025-04-22 19:26Map47
♦35
Salve,
Confermo che non ho creato l'area pedonale, ho solo risolto l'uso non conforme del multipoligono per definire questa area.
165168017
by CaptainCrunch
@ 2025-04-19 19:16
12025-04-20 17:36dieterdreist bitte verwende changeset comments die deine Bearbeitungen beschreiben:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments
Danke
156654383
by CarloCesarini
@ 2024-09-15 16:04
12025-04-17 15:29dieterdreist Ciao Carlo,
ti segnalo che le altezze delle cime si inseriscono nel tag "ele" e non in "name". In "name" ci vanno solo i nomi. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12178584517
Saluti e buona mappatura,
Martin
97781708
by vlattanzi
@ 2021-01-19 16:37
12025-04-17 15:16dieterdreist Ciao, mi sono accorto che le altezze delle colline sono inserite sia col tag "ele" che con "name", così si creano problemi (doppia indicazione). Sto già provvedendo dove l'ho visto, ma se trovi altri ti invito aiutarmi nel cancellare i "name" che non ...
22025-04-17 15:37ivanbranco
♦2,701
Ce ne sono un po' in Italia: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/22u9

Ho notato anche 39 peak il cui nome inizia con "Quota", es. "Quota 3065": https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/22ub
154954846
by dieterdreist
@ 2024-08-07 21:37
12025-04-15 16:27Robot8A
♦69
I fixed the location of https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12097804039 on changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/164993657
22025-04-16 08:42dieterdreist great, thank you!
69385303
by GBAB
@ 2019-04-19 18:39
12025-04-08 11:51dieterdreist Please do not trust Osmose. It is not a fix to retag amenity=swimming_pool to leisure=swimming_pool, because the latter is a swimming pool, but in this case, the area describes the whole grounds, not just the pool.
135091915
by Claudio Tam
@ 2023-04-19 08:31
12025-04-04 09:57dieterdreist Ciao Claudio, ho notato che hai riclassificato i canali in questa zona da "drain" (corrente d'acqua artificiale con bordi costruiti, per drenaggio) a "canal" (corrente d'acqua artificiale che porta acqua "utile" per trasporto o irrigazione). E`stato fatto appo...
22025-04-05 15:23Claudio Tam
♦20
Ciao!
I principi che usai erano questi. Quelli con larghezza d'acqua più piccola (0-3 metri) sono "drain", non contengono abbastanza acqua per essere usati per coltivare, spesso sono quasi-vuoti. Stanno a un livello un po' più basso.
Quelli più grandi (larg...
32025-04-07 21:37dieterdreist Ciao Claudio, grazie per la risposta. Capisco il criterio, anche se credo si potrebbe un po' alzare i limiti, 2 m per un "canale" non sono molti, ma non c'è nemmeno una chiara definizione, quindi per il momento potremmo anche lasciarli.

Ciao
Martin
164477683
by vlattanzi
@ 2025-04-03 18:03
12025-04-04 09:27dieterdreist Ciao Vlattanzi, ti segnalo che ieri hai rotto il multipoligono 12346352, (wood), l'ho già riparato. (ammetto che le strutture non sono proprio chiarissime in questo punto, quindi purtroppo è facile che si rompino senza che uno si accorge).
Saluti e buona mappatura,
Martin
22025-04-04 09:43dieterdreist E anche la 16378473 (wood), già riparata...
32025-04-07 12:11vlattanzi
♦4
Grazie
161760953
by kguenther24
@ 2025-01-25 20:58
12025-03-31 08:43dieterdreist Hi, I just noticed you wholesale deleted the square to redraw it from scratch: https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=161760953
This is not our usual procedure, because it makes it difficult to understand the history and there is the risk that details are forgotten / lost. E.g. you have deleted ...
22025-03-31 08:54dieterdreist there is also no justification of "access=no" for this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/161760953
(generally, you can just walk from the station along the fence of the hotel up to Viale Enrico di Nicola, there are not restrictions at all).
I do not recall 100% if the taxi access ...
32025-03-31 08:55dieterdreist sorry, the link for the previous comment is this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/141859892
42025-03-31 14:06kguenther24
♦23
Hi, I apologize for those few errors, I updated the access tag on the taxi area and moved the fountain node to its real location so it is not located nearly on the roadway (that is why I had thought it had been removed during the area's reconstruction). As to why there was a lot of deletion inv...
52025-04-02 11:23dieterdreist Thank you for replying. I just found it puzzling that you deleted an item to which I had added a picture literally the day before. This is the kind of risk I was writing about, when doing a wholesale replacement, because vivid places like this are not uniformally "outdated", there are like...
62025-04-02 11:27dieterdreist you also deleted this private parking:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/182282757
I think it is still there, as is this road:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/107256116
72025-04-02 11:30dieterdreist and also these:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/390214037
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/390214037
and so on, these are not part of Piazza delle 500
122207640
by Sammamish
@ 2022-06-10 11:55
12025-03-27 17:21dieterdreist Hi Sammamish, can you explain why you changed the classification? From aerial imagery this looks like a track...
22025-03-28 16:06Sammamish
♦4
Hi dieterdreist,

Thank you for your feedback. I will analyze the situation and come back to you.

32025-04-01 14:31Sammamish
♦4
Hi dieterdreist, Thank you for your question. I referred to Maxar Premium Imagery for these changes in 2022. However, in the latest Esri World Imagery it does look more like a track as you suggest. I also see that the way it is connected to at the east end has been re-tagged to track which appears t...
42025-04-02 08:09dieterdreist Thank you for replying. Frankly, I believe we shouldn't reclassify roads or paths based on aerial imagery, in particular not change the class someone, possibly with on the ground knowledge, has already assigned. Imagery is always old (compared to "now"), and it can be misleading.
52025-04-02 08:10dieterdreist thank you for fixing it
161761613
by kguenther24
@ 2025-01-25 21:21
12025-03-31 09:18dieterdreist Hi, I also do not understand why you created this way:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1354263529
160961225
by GBAB
@ 2025-01-03 18:24
12025-03-16 17:52dieterdreist Hi, IMHO this is vandalism, you cannot delete several aspects of the Piazza Navona (the square and the pedestrian area) https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9202510/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5150439/
without asking anybody, on your mobile phone, and add some more tags to a way http...
22025-03-17 10:09GBAB
♦101
Dear / Carissimo / Lieber dieterdreist,

thank you for you message.
Just to understand each other:

The problem is that the area of the three fountains of Piazza Navona seem paved on OSM (together with the rest of the square)?

Thank you!

Gábor
32025-03-17 12:33dieterdreist Dear Gábor, yes, the problem is you conflated the square with the pedestrian area
42025-03-17 12:34dieterdreist btw also at Campo de‘ Fiori
52025-03-17 12:54GBAB
♦101
Dear dieterdreist,

yes, you are right. What I have done is that I merged the two Piazza Navonas and two Campos into one, since also in real life there is one of them (as far as I can remember from my last stay in Rome some weeks ago). ;-)

I thought that the fountains and the statue of Giordano...
62025-03-17 15:08dieterdreist Hi,
I agree that it is not vandalism, as you have acted in good faith, although I believe if someone wants to restructure the representation of a landmark, which both squares are, and they are in higher two digit version numbers, just ironing over is not what should be done, e.g. you could have wri...
72025-03-17 19:37dieterdreist I am sure we need a distinct square and a distinct highway area object, because the fountains and statues are part of the square but not of the highway.
82025-03-18 20:30GBAB
♦101
Dear dieterdreist,

now there are two distinct features on both piazze: one of a pedestrian highway and on of a square with the appropriate distinction of tagging:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/163791363

Cheers

Gábor
92025-03-18 20:32GBAB
♦101
…and another question: is there any hierarchy between editing software? E.g. is an edit more valueable if it is done with e.g. iD than it would be by JOSM? Or vice versa?
102025-03-21 23:08dieterdreist no, it is not about a hierarchy, but in general I would suspect a mobile editor to give less overview, just because of the screen size, it is not a hard criterion, you probably can do everything on a small screen as well, it just seems easier to overlook something when dealing with situations like p...
163795200
by clt2025
@ 2025-03-18 22:39
12025-03-20 07:55NeisReview
♦940
#UnexplainedChanges #Test

Hello, welcome to OSM.

Could you please clarify the purpose behind your map changes? It's not entirely clear from the edited data and your added description. Also, what was used as a source of your activity?

Looking forward to your response.
Thank you.
22025-03-20 16:14clt2025
♦1
Die Erstellung eines OpenStreetMap (OSM)-Kontos und die Durchführung eines Tests zur Bearbeitung und Präsentation von Edits auf dem Chemnitzer Linuxtag (CLT) sind ein bedeutender Schritt, um sowohl das Potenzial der OpenStreetMap-Plattform als auch die vielfältigen Möglichkeiten ...
32025-03-21 07:37NeisReview
♦940
Hallo clt2025,

vielen Dank für die ausführliche Erklärung und den Kontext zu euren Edits im Rahmen des Chemnitzer Linuxtags. Es freut mich sehr zu sehen, wie ihr OpenStreetMap als praxisorientiertes und pädagogisches Werkzeug nutzt, um die Community und das Verständnis f&...
42025-03-21 07:39NeisReview
♦940
PS: Die Antwort wurde ebenfalls mit einer generativen KI erstellt. 🤷‍♂️
52025-03-21 13:33dieterdreist KI-generierte Sprachmodelle sollten in Diskussionssystemen, die für menschliche Leser gedacht sind, nicht verwendet werden, da sie oft keine echte Meinungsbildung besitzen und lediglich vorhergesagte Muster replizieren. Dies kann zu Missverständnissen, inhaltlichen Ungenauigkeiten und fehl...
62025-03-21 13:34dieterdreist (man muss dazusagen, dass es kurz und bündig sein soll)
131971116
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2023-02-01 17:04
12025-03-15 16:43Jrachi
♦769
water=279 è sicuramente un errore.
Ma cosa voleva significare?
22025-03-15 21:26dieterdreist deve essere `ascent`, mi dispiace che è sfuggito, ci potrebbe essere stato il focus della tastiera nel window dei tag, ho premuto w per cambiare modo di disegno ma ero nella finestra dei tag con il focus. accidenti…
9352953
by dieterdreist
@ 2011-09-20 16:34
12025-03-14 08:10Jrachi
♦769
Ciao.
Ho pescato due vecchie relazioni dove hai inserito network= local.
Controlla anche gli altri tag, è passato molto tempo!

Ivo
22025-03-14 09:09dieterdreist sì, passato molto tempo. Ci sono stato altre volte di seguito, ma la situazione cambia (alle volta era chiusa una parte per frana, (ma i locali andavano comunque). Non saprei per gli altri tag, e non mi sembra nemmeno lineare, intanto quello che posso fare è correggere il tag lwn.
32025-03-14 09:28Jrachi
♦769
Grazie!
136705577
by vlattanzi
@ 2023-05-29 15:15
12025-03-13 14:53dieterdreist Ciao, ho notato che hai inserito delle piccole linee di elettricità come power=cable e i supporti come power=tower. Guardando le foto aerei, mi sembrano power=pole i supporti e power=minor_line le linee. Non conosco la situazione nel luogo, per questo ti chiedo. Ad esempio qui: node 109371242...
125164937
by cronoser
@ 2022-08-20 22:55
12022-10-09 21:30dieterdreist Hi, I have seen you added this drinking fountain, probably because you did not notice that it is already mapped, but as not working: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1645052573
can you confirm it is working again?

Martin
22025-03-06 19:36cronoser
♦101
Hello, sorry to answer now, I was there when I mapped with OsmAnd, you changed the tags one day before my edition :-) I suppose that you where at the STOM Firenze like me. I will delete my node. Thanks for the advise.
32025-03-07 20:27dieterdreist Thank you for replying, yes I have been to SotM as well :)
104003201
by didapike
@ 2021-05-02 16:27
12025-02-23 09:30dieterdreist Hi, I just noticed you deleted the fountain of the amphores with all its detail and history here, without even mentioning it in the meaningless comment “fix streets” and then you redrew a circle and tagged it with natural=water which is not what this fountain looks like.
This is not ho...
157762349
by fb552
@ 2024-10-11 15:30
12025-02-02 15:45dieterdreist The halt Acilia Sud ist not open yet, I will set it to construction now
156044966
by AlCeRoma
@ 2024-09-01 09:11
12025-01-27 09:26dieterdreist Ciao AlCe, ho notato che hai modificato questo ufficio: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1110502520/history ma mi sembra che non è più lì.
22025-01-29 10:55AlCeRoma
♦9
in effetti l'edificio è vuoto, ho eliminato i riferimenti a Telecom
32025-01-29 14:13dieterdreist grazie :-)
156323808
by mau59
@ 2024-09-07 18:05
12025-01-27 09:28dieterdreist Ciao mau59, mi sembra che hai rimosso la pista ciclabile lungo Grotta Perfetta, non esiste più? C'è anche una nota di 27 giorni fa che dice che manca la pista ciclabile in OSM.
saluti
Martin
127766761
by hindukusc
@ 2022-10-19 08:44
12025-01-21 09:45dieterdreist Buongiorno hindukusc, ti volevo segnalare che i sentieri che possono essere utilizzati con veicoli a 4 ruote in OSM non sono "path" ma "track", un esempio è qui: way 1105158013
Saluti
Martin
161573265
by iandees
@ 2025-01-20 17:53
12025-01-20 17:55dieterdreist well done, I was just 1 minute too late :)
Thank you
22025-01-20 18:06thefabi
♦17
The OSM-Community Discussion: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571
32025-01-20 19:48Glassman
♦5,240
The alt_name should also be reverted. Happy to do so
42025-01-20 19:54iandees
♦724
Done
52025-01-20 20:25dieterdreist arguably the alt_name is valid as of now, it doesn’t have to be official
62025-01-20 20:34iandees
♦724
Trump hasn't signed any executive orders yet, he's only announced them in a speech. Executive orders need to be signed and recorded in the Federal Register, where they'll appear here: https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders
72025-01-20 21:27dieterdreist that’s for the official_name, it has nothing to do with alt_name
161425453
by riccardoascione
@ 2025-01-16 16:32
12025-01-16 22:30AwFi
♦26
Ciao!
mi hanno fatto notare le tue modifiche alla mappa e vedo che sei nuovo su OSM.

Intanto benvenuto!

Vorrei inizialmente spiegarti che su OpenStreetMap si sta mappando il mondo reale, quindi tutto ciò che è veramente in progettazione/costruzione oltre a ciò che &egrav...
22025-01-17 10:53dieterdreist Aggiungendo all'ottimo commento di AwFi, ti segnalo "umap", che è un servizio basato su OSM (come sfondo), ma dove puoi inserire ciò che vuoi perché è una mappa tua personale.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UMap
Ci sono vari istanze pubbliche, ad ese...
161424132
by riccardoascione
@ 2025-01-16 15:53
12025-01-17 10:01dieterdreist Buongiorno, e benvenuto in OpenStreetMap. Ho notato per caso che hai introdotto delle stazioni ferroviarie che già esistono, ad esempio "Pigneto" (mappata come area) e "Cornelia" (non è di treni, è della metro). Quando hai dei dubbi su cose mancanti (come sta...
22025-01-17 10:46dieterdreist Ho adesso visto che Cornelia è una stazione proposta, in questo caso non si deve inserire come stazione attiva, ho cambiato il tagging.
Saluti
Martin
32025-01-17 10:48dieterdreist Sistemato anche Don Minzoni
42025-03-17 22:36ALn_668
♦11
L'utente non risponde, sistemata situazione a stazione Pigneto
86762800
by Antanicus
@ 2020-06-17 08:59
12025-01-15 09:07dieterdreist Hi, I realize this is already some years ago, but just in case I wanted to tell you to be careful with pedestrian crossing tagging. If there are zebra markings and traffic signals, the "crossing" value should be "traffic_signals".
Thank you,
Dieterdreist
22025-01-15 09:26Antanicus
♦8
Thank you for the heads up, will do!
32025-01-15 11:36dieterdreist great, thank you for replying so quickly...
159232870
by servilius_ahala
@ 2024-11-17 08:31
12025-01-15 09:26dieterdreist Hi, you added the name "Via Cassia at km 11.700" as a name. How can this be a name for an archaeological site? Have you been to the place, or what did you base your edits on? I noticed someone has now added a petrol station to the site, and on aerial imagery it looks as if there is buildin...
22025-01-16 20:33servilius_ahala
♦2
The service station is preexisting. The site and its recent opening to public visits has been well covered in the Italian press.
157301023
by Andrea de Natale Sifola Galiani
@ 2024-09-30 14:37
12025-01-12 22:50dieterdreist Ciao Andrea, ho capito che questo non è più una strada, ma sicuramente non è nemmeno da cancellare, deve diventare pedonale. Ho ripristinato la strada cancellata e messo come pedonale. È giusto?
22025-01-13 06:38Andrea de Natale Sifola Galiani
♦1
Buongiorno, sì perdonami, quel tratto è pedonale. Grazie della pazienza :)
32025-01-13 07:51dieterdreist Grazie della risposta, quindi ora è giusto? Ti segnalo, quando qualcosa va storta, c’è ctrl+z per tornare indietro.
Saluti
Martin
157079763
by mau59
@ 2024-09-25 12:23
12025-01-12 23:03dieterdreist Hi, it seems you have changed some zebra crossings to traffic signal crossings here, but they are actually zebra crossings, for example in Via del Foro Olitorio
130875636
by ticki_52
@ 2023-01-04 17:14
12024-12-25 22:24Mammi71
♦253
Hallo ticki_52, hast Du die ganzen Furten, die Du in diesem CS zugefügt hast, auch gesehen? Oder nur Warnhinweise behoben? Einerseits erscheint es mir arg und ungewöhnlich viele Furten und andererseits an Stellen, die ich kenne, jedoch kann ich mich nicht an Furten erinnern.
22024-12-26 20:07ticki_52
♦113
Hallo, ich habe die Warnhinweise behoben, weil sich niemand darum kümmert. Es werden halt sehr häufig (Rad-)Wege mit "ungefährem Verlauf" gemappt und man kümmert sich nicht um die Details dazu. Ich kann aber nicht an jeden Ort, wo Fehlerchen gemappt wurden (highway kreu...
32024-12-27 06:53Mammi71
♦253
Hallo ticki_52, ähm, das macht mich ein wenig sprachlos. Warnungen sind doch nur Warnungen. Du kannst doch nicht einfach irgendwas falsches mappen, nur weil es da eine Warnung gibt die Du weghaben willst. Du kannstdoch nicht einfach Details erfinden und in die Datenbank eingeben, von denen Du n...
42024-12-27 09:22ticki_52
♦113
Hallo Mammi71, nun schalte mal ein paar Gänge runter. Die Arbeit erschwere nicht ich, sondern die Mapper, die einfach Wege mappen, ohne sich um die notwendigen Zusatzinfornationen zu kümmern, um sauberes Mapping zu haben. Und wenn dann die Fehler monate- oder auch jahrelang nicht bearbeite...
52024-12-27 09:34dieterdreist Um den Fehler zu beheben muss man aber wissen was falsch ist. Es könnte ja sein dass sich Wasserweg und Fahrradweg bzw. Feldweg gar nicht queren sondern die Lage ungenau war, oder dass der Wasserweg verrohrt ist an der Querung. Wenn man da überall Furten einzeichnet sind das überall d...
62024-12-27 09:50ticki_52
♦113
... jetzt habe ich mein Konzept verschickt. Sorry. Also nochmal

Hallo Mammi71, nun schalte mal ein paar Gänge runter. Wende Dich doch bitte an den Mapper, der den Pfad unvollständig kartiert hat. Der hat doch den Weg gemappt, ohne sich um die notwendigen Zusatzinfornationen zu kümm...
72024-12-27 12:57dieterdreist Die Warnungen sind mögliche Probleme, echte Probleme werden es erst wenn man potentiell falsche Daten ergänzt um die Warnungen loszuwerden. Der Sinn ist, dass man sie behebt wenn man die erforderlichen Informationen hat. Wenn da jahrelang kein Mapper vorbeikommt und sich die Stelle ansieht...
82024-12-27 14:07ticki_52
♦113
Akzeptiert..... es wäre wohl besser gewesen, die Hinweise auf die fehlenden Nodes zu ignorieren, woran ich mich nun halte. Jedoch kann ich mir nicht verkneifen als Einzelbeispiel eine Stilblüte für fantasievolles Mapping den CS150886124 zu nennen. Als Krönung bittet ein Streetco...
92024-12-27 23:34dieterdreist wünsche Dir auch einen guten Rutsch, und freue mich dass Du Deine Meinung nochmal überdacht hast, und das auch öffentlich machst, die Größe haben nicht alle.
102024-12-29 19:19Mammi71
♦253
@ticki_52: dieterdreist hat eigentlich schon alles geschrieben, wie ich es besser auch nicht hätte schreiben können. Und ich schließe mich im an und sage danke, dass Du Deine Meinung noch einmal überdacht hast.
Ein paar Ergänzungen meinerseits: alles vollständig und k...
112024-12-29 19:25Mammi71
♦253
Zu Deiner Stilblüte: nun, das ist SC. An derStelle etwas Quatsch, aber naja. Aber insgesamt sollte der Bereich auch noch einmal unter die Lupe genommen werden. einen highway=service mit surface=fine_gravel zu path mit dirt herunterzustufen (und dabei die Brücken zu "übersehen&quo...
122024-12-30 17:40ticki_52
♦113
Zitat: "...wirst Du viele water-/highway-Kreuzungen finden, die ich als Brücke, Durchlass und selten als Furt gemappt habe. Dass sie oft fehlen, ist mir auch ein Dorn im Auge.... => Genau das halte ich für problematisch. Für Brücken und Durchlässe sind bauliche Ma&sz...
132024-12-30 23:06Mammi71
♦253
Zitat: "Genau das halte ich für problematisch. Für Brücken und Durchlässe sind bauliche Maßnahmen erforderlich, die aber u.U. gar nicht vorhanden sind."
Da hast Du was falsch verstanden. Ich mappe das nur, wenn ich mir das zuvor angesehen habe. Im Zweifel auch se...
160538030
by mau59
@ 2024-12-23 13:23
12024-12-26 00:13dieterdreist Hi, I think this drinking fountain was moved in error, can you confirm?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10436409967
134297949
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2023-03-30 10:24
12024-12-20 22:55dieterdreist Ciao Michele, ho notato che stavi cambiando crossing=zebra in crossing=uncontrolled. Io credo è meglio "zebra", perché le strisce non sono "uncontrolled" (anche se questo valore è documentato da più tempo, non è molto chiaro). Invece crossing=ze...
22024-12-21 17:18Michele Aquilani
♦7
Ciao, io facevo esattamente cosí fino a qualche mese fa.
Poi ho visto che l'editor suggerisce "Attraversamento pedonale segnalato" (etichettato con uncontrolled) e come tipo fa scegliere le strisce pedonali (crossing:markings=zebra). Ho immaginato che fosse il modo in cui pre...
32024-12-23 10:20dieterdreist Ciao Michele,
la questione del tag "crossing" è lunga e contesa. Il tag "crossing" viene abbinato a "highway=crossing" e descrive il tipo di attraversamento. Storicamente si usava "crossing=uncontrolled" per le strisce (quando non ci sono semafori) e c...
4176281
by dieterdreist
@ 2010-03-20 03:32
12024-02-05 17:40Mateusz Konieczny
♦7,666
Hello! https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/670128597/history has access:vehicle that was added in this edit (if I checked things correctly)
Would using vehicle access tag (see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:vehicle ) be fitting at least equally well?
22024-02-05 19:07dieterdreist who knows Mateusz, I have been there 14 years ago...
32024-12-21 23:52dieterdreist I fixed it. Thank you.
45815620
by Karthoo
@ 2017-02-04 21:22
12024-12-20 22:37dieterdreist Hi, I noticed that you added a pharmacy here: node 4664316302
It doesn't seem to be a pharmacy actually, because it is called "Parafarmacia" which means something like "Rollstühle, Nahrungsergänzungsmittel, Blutdruckmessgeräte und Thrombosenstrümpfe etc."...
22024-12-21 08:06Karthoo
♦214
Hey, you are right, that probably was the wrong tag as I wasn't aware of that difference. But unfortunately I also can't find the mapillary imagery anymore to confirm the name and it's been a while since I was there last time.
32024-12-21 09:03dieterdreist Hi, thank you for replying, the name is ok I think because it was better specified in 2023 by another mapper, I’ll fix the place.
Frohes Fest,
Martin
116878225
by random_citizen
@ 2022-02-01 17:33
12024-12-20 22:29dieterdreist Hi, I noticed that you added healthcare=pharmacy here: node 4664316302 When do you check this? I don't have the impression there was ever a pharmacy there.
160248790
by Adrian Kilroy
@ 2024-12-13 14:37
12024-12-18 12:29dieterdreist Hello Adrian, thank you for contributing to the map and adding the Roma Tiburtina Railway Station. You may have overlooked it, but the station was already mapped also here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1313285471 (and since 2011 at least, please consider this is a major railway station, how li...
22024-12-18 12:36dieterdreist I transferred the IATA code IRT you had added to the station node, but frankly I didn't find any reference to this code, rather I did explicitly not find it either in the iata lookup https://www.iata.org/en/publications/directories/code-search/ nor in the wikipedia list of IATA codes. Where did...
32024-12-18 12:51Adrian Kilroy
♦1
Hi Martin,

Thank you for transferring the IATA code.

The source linking the IRT iata code to Rome Tiburtina Railway Station:
https://www.wego.com/airports/rom/airports-in-rome/roma-tiburtina-railway-station-irt

The iata lookup link you provided only searches for airlines and airports.

B...
42024-12-18 23:12dieterdreist I think this is not a real IATA number, it might be from an unofficial or specific internal use for a particular service provider, but it is not a standard IATA designation and does not seem to be used by others.
52024-12-19 08:20Adrian Kilroy
♦1
Hi Martin,

Rail IATA codes, while not officially maintained by IATA, are widely recognized and utilized across the global travel industry. Their primary purpose is to facilitate seamless integration for intermodal travel within booking systems such as Sabre and Amadeus, which power most online tr...
62024-12-20 11:02dieterdreist Can you explain who assigns and maintains these additional "IATA"-numbers if it isn't IATA? How can do they ensure no code is assigned more than once?
72024-12-20 11:51Adrian Kilroy
♦1
Hi Martin,

These pseudo-IATA codes are maintained by multiple stakeholders. Global Distribution Systems, like Sabre and Amadeus, coordinate with IATA to avoid overlaps.
148719202
by gigi2037
@ 2024-03-16 07:21
12024-12-12 12:15dieterdreist ti posso chiedere di mettere commenti più sensati, non si capisce perché hai fatto questi edit e cosa hai fatto. Sto correggendo stazioni doppie, e trovo delle cose, anche di te, che mi sembrano troppo approssimative. Il nodo 11736267576, creato qui, collega un tunnel footway sotto i b...
118290487
by VLD181
@ 2022-03-09 18:43
12024-12-12 10:49dieterdreist Hello VLD181, I do not understand your comment, but I saw that you deleted the name from the subway station. I now added it back again, please be more careful, thank you.
154072414
by gigi2037
@ 2024-07-17 19:20
12024-12-12 10:21dieterdreist Ciao Gigi, ti segnalo che ho cancellato alcuni tag da https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12059951275 perché ha creato un doppione della stazione (se si tratta di una "platform" non deve avere tag come railway=station, e in questo caso c'era già un altro oggetto con "...
22024-12-12 10:42dieterdreist Ci sono altri doppioni su altre stazioni, generalmente ci possono essere più railway=platform o public_transport=platform, ma sono delle way. Tu hai inserito un railway=platform al centro di due binari dove non si trova una banchina e dove già c'erano delle railway=platform dove d...
159414897
by EttoreV_littoria
@ 2024-11-21 15:29
Active block
12024-12-02 20:42dieterdreist Ciao, benvenuto in OpenStreetMap. Ho notato che hai aggiunto il tag railway=subway al tratto della Metro C in progetto, ma così lo segni come Metro attiva. L'ho ripristinato, ma ti volevo farlo sapere.

Saluti,
Martin
123141109
by AlCeRoma
@ 2022-07-03 07:24
12024-11-20 15:14dieterdreist Ciao, ho notato che hai cambiato la fermata Stella Polare da railway=halt in railway=station, mi sembra che era giusto prima.
Ciao,
Martin
22024-11-21 15:31AlCeRoma
♦9
Il valore "halt" si usa per fermate ferroviarie molto piccole in cui i treni si fermano su richiesta, non mi sembra proprio il caso di Stella Polare...
32024-11-22 10:24dieterdreist no, la questione non è se si ferma su richiesta, ma se ci sono deviatori. Se ci passano solo binari senza che i treni possono cambiare binario è un "halt" e non una "station", in Italia i nomi sono "fermata" e "stazione".
42024-11-22 15:37AlCeRoma
♦9
bene, in effetti sulla wiki inglese è stato inserito un grafico che permette di distinguere i due valori. Ho modificato così alcune stazioni della Roma-Lido perché avevo notato che erano improvvisamente sparite dalla mappa.
52024-11-28 12:19dieterdreist grazie per la spiegazione ma la fermata è ancora mappata come "station": https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12248413804
123198659
by AlCeRoma
@ 2022-07-04 15:57
12024-11-22 10:30dieterdreist Ciao Alce, anche qui è stato cambiato railway=halt in railway=stop e poi (qui) in railway=station. Mi sembra era giusto railway=halt.
135275207
by Matteo Fid
@ 2023-04-23 19:39
12024-11-22 10:28dieterdreist Ciao Matteo, tra le "modifiche" varie hai anche cambiato ad esempio la fermata di Castel Fusano da "railway=halt" in "railway=station", perché? Mi sembra chiaramente errato.
121502877
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2022-05-26 06:00
12024-11-21 21:47dieterdreist Ciao Michele, ho notato che hai cambiato railway=stop in railway=stop;station qui https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/24969004
Si dovrebbe avere al meno 2 elementi distinti per questo, uno per la station e uno per ogni direzione la posizione dove ferma (stop)
22024-11-23 11:45Michele Aquilani
♦7
Uh, è successo tanto tempo fa. Probabilmente un refuso, spero non ce ne siano altri.
53561593
by keimo
@ 2017-11-06 18:07
12024-11-08 09:21dieterdreist please revert the (undiscussed, global) retagging of addr:staircase to addr:unit, they are different things
22024-11-08 10:23dremdau
♦14
I disagree, the wiki (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:staircase) says that addr:unit is usually used instead. Also, why are you commenting on a 7 year old changeset?
32024-11-08 12:10dieterdreist I don't think we should continue to pretend it is ok to use addr:unit for staircases, because these are quite different things, an addr:unit is typically referring to an individual address, while addr:staircase is usually referring to many addresses (everybody who has access through this stairc...
42024-11-20 10:21dieterdreist keimo, are you going to revert your undiscussed mass edit?
52024-11-20 14:37keimo
♦17
No, and I don't think fixing non-standard tags requires discussion.

Reverting this (and other similar tags in Finland) would also break public transport routing to the entrances in question.

Isn't there another tag you could use to indicate that the address is to a staircase, if that...
62024-11-21 08:29dieterdreist I don't know about Finland, and whether it has been discussed there, but the edit was not limited to Finland. Generally, all mass edits require public discussion and approval. I question that you "fixed" the tags, because "addr:unit" is not the same as "addr:staircase&q...
112981744
by timlamec
@ 2021-10-26 08:26
12022-02-20 07:38user_5359
♦19,415
Hello! What is your interpretation of the key altitude? Did you mean the key ele (see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ele)?

Bonjour ! Quelle est la signification du key altitude ? Voulez-vous dire la clé ele (voir https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/R
FR:Key:ele) ?
22024-11-20 09:04dieterdreist Hi, I also noticed the altitude tags. What is the unit, is it meters? Are these things levitating above the ground or did you intend to map the elevation of the ground where they stand on?
If these are thought to be meters, e.g. 818.9404396, the indicated precision is between micrometers and nanom...
31899393
by dieterdreist
@ 2015-06-11 15:09
12024-11-15 10:12opendcc
♦1,535
Hallo, was meintest Du hier mit entrance=disabled? gesperrt oder für disabled people?
22024-11-15 10:26dieterdreist gute Frage nach 9 Jahren, könntest Du evtl. einen Link auf das Objekt posten bzw. sagen, wo genau, dann muss ich es nicht raussuchen?
32024-11-15 10:28dieterdreist Habe es doch gefunden, war gar nicht so schwer ;-)
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3588048319
damit ist wheelchair=yes gemeint, bzw. dürfen da glaube ich nur Menschen mit Gehbehinderung den Aufzug benutzen, war da aber schon Jahre nicht mehr und kann es nicht genau sagen ob das noch aktuel...
42024-11-15 10:29dieterdreist jedenfalls war es damals ein Eingang für Behinderte und nicht ein ungenutzter Eingang
52024-11-15 23:08opendcc
♦1,535
Danke.
158241004
by fb552
@ 2024-10-23 08:00
12024-11-13 12:55dieterdreist Ciao fb552, ho notato che hai creato una serie di doppioni delle stazioni, perché hai aggiunto all'edificio della stazione il tag per la stazione ferroviaria (railway=station), ma questo già era presente sulla stazione (tutto il perimetro dove si trova la stazione, la banchina, i ...
22024-11-13 13:33fb552
♦17
Ciao Martin,
intendi che l'edificio con il tag railway=station è un duplicato rispetto ai nodi con lo stesso tag? Perché il perimetro della stazione non è presente ovunque e dove lo è è segnato come landuse=railway.
Per il tag railway=station dove è m...
32024-11-14 12:31dieterdreist Ciao fb552,
sì, per ogni stazione ci dovrebbe essere solo un railway=station (o nel caso della fermata railway=halt), e questo può essere un area oppure un nodo (l'area è meglio secondome). Invece per l'edificio della stazione è sufficiente essere incluso nell&...
53676260
by keimo
@ 2017-11-10 19:54
12024-11-08 09:20dieterdreist please revert the (undiscussed, global) retagging of addr:staircase to addr:unit, they are different things
53562477
by keimo
@ 2017-11-06 18:38
12024-11-08 09:20dieterdreist please revert the (undiscussed, global) retagging of addr:staircase to addr:unit, they are different things
53564346
by keimo
@ 2017-11-06 19:29
12024-11-08 09:19dieterdreist please revert the (undiscussed, global) retagging of addr:staircase to addr:unit, they are different things
53501787
by keimo
@ 2017-11-04 11:35
12024-11-08 09:19dieterdreist please revert the (undiscussed, global) retagging of addr:staircase to addr:unit, they are different things
53501842
by keimo
@ 2017-11-04 11:37
12024-11-08 09:19dieterdreist please revert the (undiscussed, global) retagging of addr:staircase to addr:unit, they are different things
53677842
by keimo
@ 2017-11-10 20:59
12024-11-08 09:18dieterdreist please revert the (undiscussed, global) retagging of addr:staircase to addr:unit, they are different things
53918699
by keimo
@ 2017-11-19 09:35
12024-11-08 09:18dieterdreist please revert the (undiscussed, global) retagging of addr:staircase to addr:unit, they are different things
53677012
by keimo
@ 2017-11-10 20:26
12024-11-08 09:18dieterdreist please revert the (undiscussed, global) retagging of addr:staircase to addr:unit, they are different things
53900749
by keimo
@ 2017-11-18 13:11
12024-11-08 09:17dieterdreist please revert the (undiscussed, global) retagging of addr:staircase to addr:unit, they are different things
53844929
by keimo
@ 2017-11-16 15:33
12024-11-08 09:17dieterdreist please revert the (undiscussed, global) retagging of addr:staircase to addr:unit, they are different things
53934019
by keimo
@ 2017-11-19 21:38
12024-11-08 09:11dieterdreist This is also part of the undiscussed mechanical edit that removed addr:staircase (a tag for a flight of stairs as address component) and replaced it with addr:unit (an individual building unit as address component). Please revert it yourself.
53562114
by keimo
@ 2017-11-06 18:27
12024-11-08 09:10dieterdreist This is also part of the undiscussed mechanical edit that removed addr:staircase (a tag for a flight of stairs as address component) and replaced it with addr:unit (an individual building unit as address component). Please revert it yourself.
53561684
by keimo
@ 2017-11-06 18:10
12024-11-08 09:09dieterdreist This is also part of the undiscussed mechanical edit that removed addr:staircase (a tag for a flight of stairs as address component) and replaced it with addr:unit (an individual building unit as address component). Please revert it yourself.
53975037
by keimo
@ 2017-11-21 12:48
12024-11-08 09:09dieterdreist This is also part of the undiscussed mechanical edit that removed addr:staircase (a tag for a flight of stairs as address component) and replaced it with addr:unit (an individual building unit as address component). Please revert it yourself.
53566910
by keimo
@ 2017-11-06 21:38
12024-11-08 09:08dieterdreist This is also part of the undiscussed mechanical edit that removed addr:staircase (a tag for a flight of stairs as address component) and replaced it with addr:unit (an individual building unit as address component). Please revert it yourself.
53565405
by keimo
@ 2017-11-06 20:22
12024-11-08 09:07dieterdreist This is also part of the undiscussed mechanical edit that removed addr:staircase (a tag for a flight of stairs as address component) and replaced it with addr:unit (an individual building unit as address component). Please revert it yourself.
53566424
by keimo
@ 2017-11-06 21:12
12024-11-08 09:07dieterdreist This is also part of the undiscussed mechanical edit that removed addr:staircase (a tag for a flight of stairs as address component) and replaced it with addr:unit (an individual building unit as address component). Please revert it yourself.
53566053
by keimo
@ 2017-11-06 20:54
12024-11-08 09:04dieterdreist this is also part of the undiscussed mechanical edit it seems.
53564779
by keimo
@ 2017-11-06 19:52
12024-11-08 09:02dieterdreist Hi keimo, is this possibly an undiscussed automated or mechanical edit? It seems you replaced addr:staircase with addr:unit, but these are likely describing different situations, and I believe here (5 building levels) it is much more likely that addr:staircase applies rather than addr:unit.
113197856
by AlCeRoma
@ 2021-10-31 15:24
12024-10-27 00:32dieterdreist Ciao AlCe,
ho notato che hai cambiato il tag dell'edificio centro convegni da building=convention in building=service, non mi sembra un miglioramento. building=service viene utilizzato per edifici poco significativi, solitamente piccoli. Sono ritornato con la classificazione,
https://wiki.op...
38539175
by Geogast
@ 2016-04-13 21:20
12024-10-22 22:11dieterdreist danke fürs taggen des loc_name! Ich habe gerade zufällig den Bahnhof angesehen. Was hieltest du von loc_name=Zoo und short_name=Bahnhof Zoo? Das eröffnete natürlich Verwechslungspotenzial mit dem Zoo-Zoo, aber im Alltagsgebrauch ist das ja auch so.
154819874
by dieterdreist
@ 2024-08-04 16:18
12024-10-22 14:31Mateusz Konieczny
♦7,666
Hello! https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12092083518/history has shop = pet_supplies that was added in this edit (if I checked things correctly)
shop=pet_supplies ? What kind of shop, if any is here? Is it intentionally used instead of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop=pet ? If yes, wha...
22024-10-22 19:28dieterdreist I am not sure we should. I have not been inside, just seen the outside, it seemed to have just pet food and other articles, but no pets (like fish or birds, or mice, or similar animals). I did not check the wiki and this is not something I am mapping very often. Feel free to retag.
156111763
by busnotturno95
@ 2024-09-02 18:22
12024-10-18 12:00dieterdreist Salve, ho notato che hai migliorato la precisione di questa rotonda: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/408549194/history da 24 nodi a 511 nodi. È stato un’azione volontaria o forse una svista oppure un problema di software?
140797775
by elb000
@ 2023-09-04 10:33
12024-10-15 22:56dieterdreist Ciao, ho notato che hai inserito dei cavi 150kV, sotto terra, penso il tag dovrebbe essere power=cable, e non power=line, perchè si tratta di cavi isolati:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Apower%3Dcable

Ciao,
dieterdreist
22024-10-15 23:03dieterdreist Il commento era in riferimento a https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1204857010/ (l'ho adesso sistemato e gli altri in questo changeset erano già stati corretti da altri, come ho visto ora)
56504559
by iLaw
@ 2018-02-19 21:51
12024-09-15 19:49dieterdreist Ciao, ho notato che hai inserito questo service, ma mi sembra strano. Forse è privato e c’è un cancello?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/562591941
Saluti
155240922
by donovaly
@ 2024-08-14 13:21
12024-09-04 09:31skyper
♦871
Hi donovaly,
bei `motorroad=yes` braucht es doch nicht `foot=no`, `bicycle=no` und `horse=no`.
Grüße skyper
22024-09-04 12:43donovaly
♦37
> bei `motorroad=yes` braucht es doch nicht `foot=no`, `bicycle=no` und `horse=no`.
Wo steht das?
Und außerdem, wieso sollte man auf einer motorroad nicht auch mit dem Fahrrad fahren dürfen? In Belgrad und Kiev darf man das z.B.
Horse habe ich einfach mit angeklickt, weil es nicht ...
32024-09-04 13:25skyper
♦871
Bitte lese doch einfach das Wiki:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:motorroad
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:motorroad#Germany,_Croatia

oder noch deutlicher:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:motorroad
42024-09-04 13:36donovaly
♦37
> Bitte lese doch einfach das Wiki:
Und eine Wiki Eintrag, hat Rechtskraft oder was?
Diese typisch deutsche Überheblichkeit. Hier in Tirana MUSST du sogar auf der als Kraftfahrtstraße laufen, um zu deinem Uni-Gebäude zu kommen. Und natürlich nehmen die Leute auch Fahrr&aum...
52024-09-04 14:04skyper
♦871
Ich weiß jetzt nicht, warum Du Dich angegriffen fühlst, aber Dein Kommunikationsstil ist nicht gerade förderlich. Ich wollte Dir nur einen Tipp geben und verhindern, dass Du unnötig Zeit und Ressourcen verschwendest.

Nein, das Wiki ist genauso eine Baustelle wie die auch die ...
62024-09-04 16:22dieterdreist ich denke ebenfalls, dass der Sinn von motorroad=yes genau der ist, foot=no bicycle=no horse=no und moped=no (etc) zu implizieren, ansonsten ist es einfach highway=trunk ohne motorrad und man setzt ggf. den access für die diversen Bewegungsarten einzeln
50238848
by WayneSchlegel
@ 2017-07-12 19:22
12024-09-02 14:47dieterdreist Hi, irgendwie sind hier bei Hornbach eine Menge Informationen verloren gegangen, z.B. Filialnummer, Telefonnummer, Steuernummer etc.
Vielleicht auf ein größeres Polygon migriert vom Gebäude? Das kann ich gerade nicht prüfen, in der aktuellen Version waren ein paar tags wieder d...
155772381
by aktivnutzer
@ 2024-08-26 09:39
12024-08-27 10:48dieterdreist es gibt “den Nutzer” nicht, es gibt viele Nutzer. Das Kriterium fürs Mappen ist: gibt es oder nicht, also sollte das revertiert werden
22024-08-27 12:05scai
♦267
Bitte nicht aus fadenscheinigen Gründen real existierende Daten löschen. Es mag nicht unglaublich sinnvoll sein, diese Bäume einzeln einzutragen, aber falsch ist es ganz sicher nicht.
32024-08-27 12:53OSM_RogerWilco
♦724
Ich schließe mich dem an. Das Löschen von Objekten ist hier nicht in Ordnung. Einzelbäume zu Erfassen ist nichts ungewöhnliches und vollkommen in Ordnung.
42024-08-27 14:31aktivnutzer
♦1
Hallo zusammen, war sicherlich der falsche Weg von mir. Ich hätte im Vorfeld eine Diskussion über das Thema starten sollen. Sorry, wollte niemandem zu nahe treten.
@dieterdreist: ja stimmt, es gibt nicht 'den Nutzer' und in sofern auch nicht 'den sinnvollen Weg'.
@sca...
52024-08-27 18:33dieterdreist Klar, jeder kann nur das eintragen was er will, aber natürlich nicht löschen was er will. OpenStreetMap ist ja kein Kartenprogramm sondern eine Datenbank, je mehr die wächst um so weniger wird man beim Benutzen alles haben wollen, sondern eben einen Extrakt der Dinge die einem wichtig...
62024-08-27 18:34dieterdreist dir auch Danke für die Diskussion
155295147
by Xyshnyk1990
@ 2024-08-15 17:53
Active block
12024-08-24 18:59dieterdreist not a castle
155384056
by Xyshnyk1990
@ 2024-08-17 18:12
Active block
12024-08-24 18:50dieterdreist not a castle
155418827
by Xyshnyk1990
@ 2024-08-18 14:43
Active block
12024-08-24 18:48dieterdreist non è un castello
154850507
by Xyshnyk1990
@ 2024-08-05 13:13
Active block
12024-08-24 18:45dieterdreist Ti chiedo di non inserire civici con tag come historic=castle e name. Il tag è addr:housenumber.
Grazie
155672902
by Xyshnyk1990
@ 2024-08-23 21:18
Active block
12024-08-24 15:36dieterdreist Hi, there is no castle here.
22024-08-24 19:34ivanbranco
♦2,701
Questo utente é giá stato bloccato una volta (3 mesi fa) per lo stesso motivo: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/7112
1899638
by Eric S
@ 2009-07-21 22:14
12024-08-15 16:22dieterdreist Hi, I know this is a long time ago, just noticed visiting Fabriano that there are no signs at the vicoli like https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37918958 so I don’t think they can be considered pedestrian, do you remember or know the area?
22024-08-17 15:54Eric S
♦31
Hi, I made de round trip in the city while waiting for train connexion. Mainly, I would suggest you to get in touch with local community for street classification. Although not strictly pedestrian (no traffic sign at entrance), some of them are not likely to be use by car. For such historical narrow...
32024-08-17 16:26dieterdreist Hi Eric,

thank you for your reply, and sorry for bothering you with stuff from 2009 (I also have been around by that time and am aware how few we had settled and defined compared to now). Yes, we are currently discussing about alleys, because there is no ideal tagging (the combination with servic...
42024-08-19 08:32Eric S
♦31
In historical parts of cities, similar to Fabriano, such areas tend to be officially pedestrian.

In rural areas, there may not be a clear distinction between streets and tracks. For instance:

https://osm.org/go/0CArhUgbc--

Also, snow may change the status:
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pK...
52024-08-21 14:40dieterdreist > In historical parts of cities, similar to Fabriano, such areas tend to be officially pedestrian.

I somehow agree that it many European countries this is the case, but the Fabriano example as well as many other towns in central Italy demonstrate, it does not have to be like this. If there isn...
62024-08-21 14:41dieterdreist In Germany the usual situation is clear signage. Also there is much less two-wheeled non-bicycle traffic (very narrow streets in Germany would also usually forbid bicycles)
155057330
by Stn200220022002
@ 2024-08-10 11:09
12024-08-10 12:41dieterdreist Benvenuto in OpenStreetMap, ti vorrei segnalare che non è logico il tuo commento, perché se è tombinato sotto terra significa che esiste. Dovresti ripristinare il tutto con un revert (per non perdere lo storico).
154858896
by Struppi_
@ 2024-08-05 16:28
12024-08-05 21:30dieterdreist solche detaillierten Informationen zu löschen mit dem Kommentar weniger detailliert ist ausreichend, das ist nicht ok. Jeder kann selbst entscheiden wie detailliert er Dinge einträgt, aber die Details der anderen zu löschen weil man sie für unnötig erachtet geht nicht.
153947470
by Mouette85
@ 2024-07-14 21:16
12024-08-01 16:57dieterdreist Hi, I noticed you have added amenity=marketplace to the christmas market POI on Piazza Navona. I have removed it because it is not a market usually and was quite misleading.

Cheers
dieterdreist
75430523
by TWHB
@ 2019-10-08 20:45
12019-11-20 12:34dieterdreist Thank you for starting this! It was on my todo list for quite some time, but I haven't yet found the time to do it (refering to the city walls as building).
22019-11-20 12:37dieterdreist by the way, no need to unify the citywall parts, it is more sustainable to have parts that are smaller (easier to modify, and less damage if someone breaks them and easier to fix if this happens, also less editing conflicts). On the long run we may also add more detail to these parts anyway, e.g. wh...
32024-08-01 10:57dieterdreist just saw you changed barrier=entrance to barrier=sally_port for porta Metronia, this is just plain wrong, there is no barrier whatsoever at Porta Metronia
154036415
by servilius_ahala
@ 2024-07-17 00:40
12024-07-26 14:31dieterdreist Ciao, ho visto che hai inserito questo deposito, ammetto che non ne ero a conoscenza, interessante.
Credo che possiamo migliorare il tagging però, il "nome" mi sembra una descrizione, e forse "locality" non è il tag migliore? Di tratta di un deposito strutturato (...
153906129
by mau59
@ 2024-07-13 18:56
12024-07-22 22:45dieterdreist Ciao mau59, questo percorso way 124643469 non esiste proprio più, è stato cambiata la disposizione delle strade.

Saluti
Martin
22024-07-23 08:26mau59
♦16
Ciao di nuovo Martin e grazie per la correzione. Ho una conoscenza diretta solo di una piccolissima percentuale dei luoghi che mappo, per cui mi affido quasi esclusivamente a Bing Maps, che chiaramente può non essere aggiornata e comunque non mostra sempre tutti i particolari necessari (risol...
32024-07-23 11:23dieterdreist Ciao Maurizio, grazie della risposta, lo so che alle volte non è possibile capire la situazione da remoto, ti avevo scritto per darti un feedback dove ho notato problemi, ma ti vorrei anche ringraziare per tutti i contributi che dai!
Saluti
Martin
153751137
by mau59
@ 2024-07-09 16:12
12024-07-22 23:03dieterdreist Ciao Mau, ti volevo segnalare che crossing=zebra si usa solo quando non esiste un semaforo per pedoni, altrimenti il tag è crossing=traffic_signals.

Saluti
Martin
22024-07-23 08:14mau59
♦16
Ciao Martin, grazie per la segnalazione. In genere quando c'è un semaforo non uso mai il tag delle strisce pedonali: deve essermi sfuggito. Comunque mi sono sempre chiesto: in presenza di un semaforo le strisce ci sono sempre, ma possono essere di tipo diverso (zebra classica, doppia st...
32024-07-23 12:41ivanbranco
♦2,701
Il tipo di strisce si può mappare con https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing:markings
42024-07-23 18:08mau59
♦16
Ti ringrazio. Confesso che non mi è mai stato chiarissimo come taggare gli attraversamenti: ad esempio su JOSM le zebre si possono taggare come crossing:zebra, crossing_ref:zebra, crossingmarkings:zebra... In genere uso la tendina nella sezione Campi più che la sezione Etichette, anche...
154118479
by Naundorfer
@ 2024-07-18 20:45
12024-07-19 04:17pitscheplatsch
♦5,402
Reverted by https://osm.org/changeset/154119832
22024-07-19 10:40dieterdreist welcher der angegebenen Gründe? Forstwirtschaftliche Anlagen werden nicht gelöscht sofern es sie gibt, bei den anderen ist nicht grundsätzlich von einem Betretungsverbot auszugehen und wenn es ein solches gibt ist “access” der richtige Weg.
154118594
by Naundorfer
@ 2024-07-18 20:50
12024-07-19 04:17pitscheplatsch
♦5,402
Reverted by https://osm.org/changeset/154119832
22024-07-19 10:37dieterdreist Gibt es eine Quelle dafür dass dort das Betreten verboten ist? Nach meiner Recherche bedeutet es dass dort keine forstwirtschaftliche Nutzung möglich ist, aber zum Betreten habe ich nichts gefunden: par.29) https://www.revosax.sachsen.de/vorschrift/5405-SaechsWaldG#x34
154118710
by Naundorfer
@ 2024-07-18 20:56
12024-07-19 04:17pitscheplatsch
♦5,402
Reverted by https://osm.org/changeset/154119832
22024-07-19 10:32dieterdreist Laut sächsischer Landesregierung können Prozessschutzflächen weiterhin betreten werden: https://www.wald.sachsen.de/prozessschutz-im-wald-9436.html?_cp=%7B%22accordion-content-9441%22%3A%7B%2214%22%3Atrue%2C%2217%22%3Atrue%7D%2C%22previousOpen%22%3A%7B%22group%22%3A%22accordion-conte...
154118732
by Naundorfer
@ 2024-07-18 20:56
12024-07-19 04:17pitscheplatsch
♦5,402
Reverted by https://osm.org/changeset/154119832
22024-07-19 10:31dieterdreist Laut sächsischer Landesregierung können Prozessschutzflächen weiterhin betreten werden: https://www.wald.sachsen.de/prozessschutz-im-wald-9436.html?_cp=%7B%22accordion-content-9441%22%3A%7B%2214%22%3Atrue%2C%2217%22%3Atrue%7D%2C%22previousOpen%22%3A%7B%22group%22%3A%22accordion-conte...
154118750
by Naundorfer
@ 2024-07-18 20:57
12024-07-19 04:16pitscheplatsch
♦5,402
Reverted by https://osm.org/changeset/154119832
22024-07-19 10:30dieterdreist Laut sächsischer Landesregierung können Prozessschutzflächen weiterhin betreten werden: https://www.wald.sachsen.de/prozessschutz-im-wald-9436.html?_cp=%7B%22accordion-content-9441%22%3A%7B%2214%22%3Atrue%2C%2217%22%3Atrue%7D%2C%22previousOpen%22%3A%7B%22group%22%3A%22accordion-conte...
154118036
by Naundorfer
@ 2024-07-18 20:30
12024-07-19 04:18pitscheplatsch
♦5,402
Reverted by https://osm.org/changeset/154119832
22024-07-19 10:22dieterdreist Das wäre ähnlich wie zu behaupten die Darstellung von Banken und Polizeistationen sei hilfreich bei der Planung von Banküberfällen. Es stimmt zwar vielleicht, ist aber kein Kriterium für das Löschen, Betretungsverbote können mit access-tags abgebildet werden
153947826
by Spaghetti Monster🍝
@ 2024-07-14 21:30
12024-07-15 09:18dieterdreist Hi, I noticed you changed the situation around via Marmorata / Porta San Paolo. Can you explain your sources? I believe this is still wrong now, e.g. in OpenStreetMap one cannot go from the tram station (busses go there as well) in direction of the Tiber river, but it is possible. Also you kept 2 ca...
22024-07-15 11:00Spaghetti Monster🍝
♦2,069
I was only trying to resolve dead-end oneway and other errors. I have no local knowledge of the area. I apologize if I inhibited any cleanup efforts
32024-07-15 11:28dieterdreist Thank you for replying, IMHO you should not perform this kind of "fix", because it only hides the real problems. I have now tried to fix most of the problems in the area (as in differences to reality and possible turns and driving directions for psv), but there is still an open case with V...
129098034
by Chris Clemson
@ 2022-11-18 18:53
12024-07-11 16:24dieterdreist Hi Chris Clemson, I have just noticed that you added the Turkish Embassy (or what looks like it could be) here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10200225246
with tags declaring it as a tourist information. Can you confirm if they operate a generic tourist information or specific information relat...
61224583
by Hoschmi72
@ 2018-07-31 10:46
12024-06-26 15:43dieterdreist beim Freibad sollten die Becken enthalten sein, und nicht ausgenommen wie es hier der Fall ist
22024-06-28 06:22Hoschmi72
♦18
Hallo Dieter,
hab leider gerade wenig bis keine Zeit für OSM. Wäre nett, wenn du das korrigieren könntest. Danke und Grüße
Holger
32024-06-28 06:44dieterdreist danke für die Rückmeldung, ich fixe das in ein paar Tagen wenn ich wieder einen PC statt eines Smartphones nutzen kann.
42024-06-28 06:49Hoschmi72
♦18
Super, Danke
52024-07-05 11:15dieterdreist Hallo Holger,
habe es jetzt gefixt, habe das Gras vom Freibad getrennt (2 Objekte) und auch den Umriss etwas verbessert (je nachdem ob Gras oder Freibad). Die Teile außerhalb der Perimetereinfassung (Zaun) habe ich aus dem Freibad rausgenommen, da sind zwar ggf. Mitarbeiterparkplätze und...
62024-07-08 12:28Hoschmi72
♦18
Hallo Dieter, sieht sehr gut aus. War vermutlich eine Mordsarbeit. Danke nochmals.
72024-07-08 14:03dieterdreist danke dir. Es ging mit der Arbeit, der Großteil war ja schon da, habe nur den landuse gras from Freibad getrennt und hier und da ein paar Details ergänzt.
153068295
by Mouette85
@ 2024-06-23 13:34
12024-07-08 12:50dieterdreist Hi, I noticed that you changed the wikipedia tag here https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1737642/history
can you explain what you wanted to achieve? The link to wikipedia was broken and I fixed it, but I suspect it could have been caused by some broken software.
152592207
by Xyshnyk1990
@ 2024-06-12 15:13
Active block
12024-06-23 00:31dieterdreist "85 pal.3" doesn't seem to be an addr:housenumber.
81193361
by Lucas Filippi
@ 2020-02-19 01:01
12024-06-19 14:04dieterdreist Ciao Lucas, there is no restaurant here, I delete it now.

Best,
dieterdreist
136549637
by Matteo Fid
@ 2023-05-25 15:43
12024-06-19 13:35dieterdreist Ciao Matteo, ho notato che hai aggiunto foot=no a Via dei Cerchi https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/128648701 ma questo dovrebbe essere yes (quindi omesso, perché default/normale)

saluti
Martin
98078381
by vlattanzi
@ 2021-01-24 23:16
12024-06-14 10:34dieterdreist Ciao VLattanzi, ti prego di non inserire l'altezza come name (ad esempio name=862), che non è il nome e crea problemi. Il tag "ele" è giusto.
Grazie,
Martin
71413747
by fayor
@ 2019-06-19 19:09
12021-10-09 21:45dieterdreist aggiornamento attrazioni, su quale base? Vedo tantissime cancellazioni per un'aggiornamento. Raso a suolo e ricostruito, con tags come amenity=tourism?
22024-06-08 22:52dieterdreist e mai avuto risposte...
148955218
by TakeshiKovac
@ 2024-03-21 10:47
12024-06-08 22:44dieterdreist another "little adjustment" where you deleted a driveway. Can you please explain why you deleted this way?
22024-06-08 22:50dieterdreist Just wanted to let you know that I reverted this changeset completely, but I would still like to ask you to answer why you deleted these ways.
149816823
by TakeshiKovac
@ 2024-04-10 12:08
12024-06-08 22:30dieterdreist Hi TakeshiKovac, I just notice in your "little adjustment" you deleted Piazza Fiume. Can you please be more careful in your editing?
Thank you,
DD
139478574
by TakeshiKovac
@ 2023-08-05 12:57
12024-06-08 08:43dieterdreist Hello, I just noticed you moved the actual border of the Bioparco here from the position I have meticulously surveyed on the ground to a position that I do not think is credible, because it results in the centro Nuovi Orizzonti to be inside the Bioparco. Can you please share the sources of your edit...
106271378
by AntMadeira
@ 2021-06-13 05:14
12024-05-30 09:58dieterdreist Hi, it seems unconventional to promote a town with less than 9000 population to "city", referring to Fátima: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/563655196/
22024-05-30 11:10AntMadeira
♦243
Hi dieterdreist.

In Portugal, cities, towns and villages are mapped according to the law, not according to population, which is not easily verifiable and has big ambiguities compared to other countries.
In this case, Fátima is a city and that's why it is mapped this way.
You can hav...
32024-05-30 12:10dieterdreist The law does not define the meaning of the city tag in OpenStreetMap, I don’t question that you should tag legal settings if they are useful for the context, but I think if the implication would be to map European towns with 8800 population as place=city then the place value is not the right p...
42024-05-30 12:20AntMadeira
♦243
The law is a verifiable way of mapping a city, because its classification derives from the existence of a list of pre-conditions that defines what a city is.
In Portugal, "city" is translated to "cidade", "town" to "vila", "village" to "aldeia&...
52024-05-30 12:32dieterdreist It seems, cidade can also be translated to town, according to the context the correct translation may be town in many instances. It is not possible, unfortunately, to assume that the English idea of town translates perfectly to the exact same concept in other languages, often you cannot translate th...
62024-05-30 12:38dieterdreist back to OSM, I think you should indeed record the fact a settlement is considered cidade, vila (which by the way can also mean town or village, according to context) or aldeia (or more), but not in the place tag, it would go against its definition. You can find it here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.or...
72024-05-30 12:46AntMadeira
♦243
Yes, the English idea of town is very blurry in other countries, even in the USA, but the translation is adequate (I'm a professional translator) and the equivalence is also correct in Portuguese terms.
The Portuguese community approved a verifiable scheme that hierarchizes the place tag accor...
146855201
by Bobbi123
@ 2024-01-30 09:25
12024-03-06 20:28bigbug21
♦147
Mir fiel gerade auf, dass du die Bahnstreckentags der "Gredl" entfernt hast. Das passt so nicht. Die Strecke ist weitgehend zumindest in ihrer Linienführung erkennbar, oft auch noch durch Schotter und einigen Hektometersteinen. Damit wäre sie als railway=abandoned zu taggen (sieh...
22024-03-07 15:00Bobbi123
♦119
Hallo, ich bin hier anderer Meinung und es gibt dazu derzeit auch eine generelle Diskussion in der Community dazu, wo es teils sehr unterschiedliche Meinungen dazu gibt.: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/open-railway-map-route-in-josm-nicht-editierbar-nicht-angezeigt/109022/288

Hier wurde di...
32024-03-07 21:49bigbug21
♦147
Danke für die schnelle Nachricht. Ich habe inzwischen gesehen, dass du auch diverse weitere Bahnstrecken bzw. Eisenbahn-Infrastruktur entfernt hast, die vor Ort definitiv noch sichtbar ist. Ich melde mich dazu noch separat.

Im vorliegenden Fall hast du eine Strecke entfernt, die in weiten Te...
42024-05-09 12:02bigbug21
♦147
Nachdem keine weitere Reaktion kam, ist die Löschung nun zurückgenommen (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/151096516)
52024-05-10 16:43streckenkundler
♦1,042
@bigbug21 Ich teile deine Sichtweise.
62024-05-10 22:53Bobbi123
♦119
Peter: Es gab hier eine klare Empfehlung der DWG und die gilt es hier zu achten und beachten. Dazu noch noch viele lange Diskussionen, wo die Befürworter dieser Streckeneintragungen nicht stichhaltig nachweisen konnten, dass ihre Sichtweise korrekt ist.

Und Streckenkundler hat sich hier mitt...
72024-05-11 08:14micha_k
♦44
Ich finde schon, dass man hier unterscheiden muss. Die Bahndämme (und Einschnitte) ehemaliger Bahnstrecken sind häufig markante Objekte, die man draußen deutlich sehen und als ehemalige Bahnstrecke erkennen kann. Selbst wenn auf dem Bahndamm ein Rad- oder Feldweg gebaut wurde, erkenn...
82024-05-11 10:49Bobbi123
♦119
Es gan dazu in den letzten Monaten einige ausufernder Diskussionen dazu, wo sich herausgestellt hat, dass deine Sichtweise so nicht korrekt ist. Wenn z.B. auf einer abgebrochenen Bahnstrecke heute ein Radweg ist, stellt dies klar eine andere Nutzung dar, weshalb das Mapping als razed oder abandoned ...
92024-05-11 14:47Bobbi123
♦119
Ich habe deinen unbegründeten Revert wieder zurückgesetzt. Solltest du es erneut revertieren, werde ich dich melden! Irgendwann ist wie gesagt mal Schluss.
102024-05-14 10:50bigbug21
♦147
Hallo Bobbi123,

ich habe mir deinen eingangs verlinkten Beitragsbaum durchgesehen und schließe mich dem auch in [1] geäußerten Wunsch an, zunächst darzulegen, welche Entscheidung der DWG du konkret meinst. Wie bereits eingangs dargelegt, ist der von dir gelöschte Bahnst...
112024-05-14 13:56Bobbi123
♦119
Noch bestehende Dämme und Einschnitte reichen aber nicht für das Mappen als abgerissene Bahnstrecke. Viel eher können sie ggf. als "man_made" getaggt werden, aber definitiv nicht mehr als Bahnstrecken. Denn dafür müsste noch wenigstens ein Bisschen was der eisenbah...
122024-05-14 20:02bigbug21
♦147
Hallo Bobbi123,

vielen Dank für deine schnelle Antwort. Mit dem nun konkreten Verweis auf die Argumentation eines DWG-Mitglieds kommen wir weiter. Im Kern: "'Bahnstrecken, deren Verlauf auch für einen nicht-Bahn-Experten noch erkennbar ist, können als razed oder abandoned...
132024-05-15 00:45Bobbi123
♦119
Nein, in der klaren Empfehlung der DWG steht eindeutig.: "Bahnstrecken, die komplett überbaut sind, haben in OSM nichts zu suchen, weder als razed, noch als abandoned, noch als un-getaggter Teil einer Relation "damit keine Lücken entstehen"."

Und da, wo heute der Gre...
142024-05-17 18:43bigbug21
♦147
Hallo Bobbi123,

es ist unstrittig, dass Abschnitte, die nicht mehr erkennbar sind, auch in OSM nicht erfasst werden sollten.

Unklar ist bereits, wie Frederik Ramm "überbaut" meint. Mir scheint, es geht ihm insbesondere um Gebäude. Aber wie steht es um Fälle wie den Vor...
152024-05-18 08:42Bobbi123
♦119
Der von dir unter [2] verlinkte Bereich ist ein Allerwelts-Weg mit etwas Schotter, wie es sehr viele andere auch dort gibt, wo keine Bahngleise verlaufen sind. Ein Alleinstellungsmerkmaal, was den Weg auf diese Weise tagging-würdig erscheinen lässt, ist nicht gegeben. Und sowas wurde auch ...
162024-05-20 20:38bigbug21
♦147
Hallo Bobbi123,
zum Verständnis für den weiteren Weg: Wenn weder ein nicht anderweitig genutzter, deutlich sichtbarer und deutlich "geschotterter" Bahndamm oder noch erhaltene Signale, Hektometersteine und andere Elemente aus deiner Sicht taggingwürdig sind, welche Vorausse...
172024-05-21 00:20Bobbi123
♦119
Das wurde alles bereits an den verlinkten Stellen ausgiebig diskutiert - mal wieder. Und die OSM-Vorgaben sind dazu sehr klar beschrieben und bewusst hoch gehalten.

Ich weiß nicht, was das soll, dass dies immer wieder erneut in Frage gestellt wird. Es ist einfach mal zu akzeptieren und da d...
182024-05-21 19:48streckenkundler
♦1,042
Es gibt aber kein Lösung, keinen Kompromiss... Was ich dir bei dem Thema schon lange versuche beizubringen: die allgemeine und WELTWEITE Verwendung ist eine andere, als das, was du ins Wiki hinein zu interpretieren versuchen!
Die allgemeine Verwendung und Akzeptanz liegt darin, was du nicht m...
192024-05-22 16:58Bobbi123
♦119
Wenn du mit mir sachlich und ehrlich diskutieren willst, dann gerne. Aber mit jemanden, der hier (und schon früher woanders) Vandalismus vorwirft, nur weil es jemand persönlich anderer Meinung ist, diskutiere ich nicht.

Was du hier machst geht wie schonmal gesagt klar in Richtung §...
202024-05-23 18:44bigbug21
♦147
Hallo Bobbi123,

um auf deinen vorletzten Beitrag zurückzukommen: Auch nach nochmaliger Durchsicht der von dir eingangs angeführten Diskussion [1] sowie dem angeführten Changeset-Kommentar von Frederik-Ramm [2] ist mir nicht klar, warum selbst
a) Bereiche auf Bahndämmen noch d...
212024-05-23 20:21bigbug21
♦147
Nachtrag: Nachdem sich die Diskussion, wie ich vorhin erst nach einem Reload sah, erheblich weitergedreht hat (u. a. [1]) hat sich meine voriger Kommentar erst einmal erledigt.

[1] https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/open-railway-map-route-in-josm-nicht-editierbar-nicht-angezeigt/109022/314
222024-05-25 00:22dieterdreist ich denke nicht, dass §186 StGB (Üble Nachrede) hier Relevanz hat, es kommt höchstens §185 StGB in Frage, der 186 ist für Fälle wo das Gesagte Unwahr ist.
147128761
by damianeue
@ 2024-02-06 10:25
12024-05-21 15:28dieterdreist this changeset is discussed here:
https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/revert-bulk-deletes-of-addresses-on-poi/113542
125452995
by ma-rt-in
@ 2022-08-27 18:31
12024-05-19 21:05dieterdreist Hallo, habe gesehen dass du beim Bundespräsidialamt government=legislative getaggt hast, das ist aber falsch, weil der Bundespräsident als Staatsoberhaupt auch Chef der Exekutive ist.

Gruß
Martin
150150813
by Mike Ortega
@ 2024-04-17 23:02
12024-05-03 11:43dieterdreist Hello, I can imagine someone thinking that after 20 years of mapping we still forgot to map the vatican city, because it is so tiny, but actually it was already mapped, so this is a duplicate. For this reason I have removed the node.
48818779
by radek-drlicka
@ 2017-05-19 11:23
12024-05-03 07:20dieterdreist Hi, you have added a German name here which does not make any sense. Please only add names for languages which you know.
Thank you
Martin
150590640
by valestarkiller
@ 2024-04-27 17:45
12024-04-29 07:53dieterdreist Buongiorno Valestarkiller, e benvenuto in OpenStreetMap. Ho notato che hai inserito 3 nuovi parchi in estensione del Parco Marconi. Queste parti nuovi sono già accessibili? Generalmente, la soluzione se la risposta fosse sì, sarebbe di estendere il parco già mappato e non la cre...
131395530
by Claudio Tam
@ 2023-01-17 20:35
12024-04-24 17:23dieterdreist Buonasera Claudio, ti segnalo questa nota: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3743078

saluti
Martin
22024-04-24 17:33Claudio Tam
♦20
Ciao!
È una stanza di passaggio impianti, contatori, passaggio materiali; secondo me room=technical, building=service è lo schema di tagging migliore, quindi con building inside building, si; però se ci sono altre proposte di schemi, si può valutare e modificare.
32024-04-24 17:37dieterdreist building=* non si applica, quindi non può essere il tagging migliore. Se non esiste un tag bisogna inventarlo.
42024-04-30 09:04Claudio Tam
♦20
ok! elimino building=service e lascio room=technical da solo.
150438362
by ceseprova
@ 2024-04-24 10:34
12024-04-24 16:07dieterdreist Buonasera Ceseprova,

e benvenuto in OSM, anche se ci sei già da qualche tempo, ma non ci siamo mai incrociati finora. Ti vorrei segnalare questa pagina del wiki, che spiega perché i commenti alle modifiche che carichi sono importanti: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Good_chan...
145107286
by ivanbranco
@ 2023-12-14 11:07
12024-04-18 21:39dieterdreist Questo è uno sforzo veramente lodevole, comunque mi sembrerebbe quasi meglio togliere tutto il farmland e cominciare a disegnare farmland "veri"
Un saluto!
149843868
by Friendly_Ghost
@ 2024-04-11 01:38
12024-04-11 20:45silversurfer83
♦3,420
And again you removed hundreds of POIs from the map.

Please stop that and discuss this first.
22024-04-12 08:57otji73
♦18
It is incredibly time-consuming to try to understand your changes.

It should always be the time in life to upload changes related to the local aspect.
32024-04-12 13:26dieterdreist While it saves you the hazzle, it makes other people's life harder. Please respect the rules we have set up for automated edits, you should discuss this first, then upload changesets with limited spatial extent.
42024-04-13 18:51Friendly_Ghost
♦636
1. How does it make people's lives harder?
2. As I wrote in the CS comment this isn't an automated edit.
3. Spatial extent isn't a concern with a thematically simple edit that isn't so big in scale.
4. These are guidelines, not rules.
52024-04-14 08:07dieterdreist It makes their life harder because it gets into their way together with all the other wide spanning edits, so that it is harder to find local edits.
Guidelines ARE rules.
62024-04-14 14:41gurglypipe
♦873
Other people review edits. Review tools such as osmcha.org only allow edits to be marked as “good” or “bad” once. That means that whoever reviews your edit has to either review all 100+ POIs, spread across the world, with no local knowledge — or to review the ones they ...
72024-04-14 19:35ablevi202
♦41
I would infinitely rather look at one large changeset when reviewing than track down every single local changeset someone makes. Trying to force an interpretation of non-binding guidelines with no consensus to it because of osmcha's limitations doesn't really make sense either.
82024-04-14 20:04gurglypipe
♦873
You’re saying there’s no consensus to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Changeset#Geographical_size_of_changesets?
92024-04-14 20:10ablevi202
♦41
There is no consensus to the idea that all large changeset bboxes are bad and should not be allowed. It even says there's no consensus on optimal bbox size, just that ideally changesets are local and not super big. In practice, world spanning changesets are normal and I don't know why peop...
102024-04-14 21:22maro21
♦714
> 1. How does it make people's lives harder?

In most countries they see your changeset, they read this discussion, but they don't know if anything has changed in their city.
112024-04-14 21:57Friendly_Ghost
♦636
@maro21 That's a tech issue, not a mapping issue
122024-04-14 22:01gurglypipe
♦873
The way you do your mapping has to fit in with the capabilities of the available tools. You are knowingly creating tedious work for other people.
132024-04-14 23:10Friendly_Ghost
♦636
there are other tools than just the osm.org history viewer, which are much more fit for purpose, for example https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-change-viz?c=149843868 or custom filters on https://osmcha.org/.

Complaining to mappers each time they make a big bbox isn't going to improve OSM ...
142024-04-15 04:04silversurfer83
♦3,420
Most people are missing the point that a "cleanup" of this scale needs to be discussed first.

Also, disused shops can and should be mapped and should not be removed completely. This change here and the other subsequent changes in the same manner need to be reverted in my view.
152024-04-15 09:38dieterdreist @ablevi202 "I would infinitely rather look at one large changeset when reviewing than track down every single local changeset someone makes."
If I were to track all changes by a certain user, then yes, but what people do (and what makes most sense, given that everybody is an expert locall...
162024-04-15 09:39dieterdreist @silversurfer83 "This change here and the other subsequent changes in the same manner need to be reverted in my view.", fully agree, can you write to the DWG?
172024-04-15 09:49Kovirii
♦30
Hello,
Please do not automatically remove tags such as "old_name" and "name." This removes useful information used by both mappers and the public. Additionally, how did you determine it was correct to delete "shop=vacant?"
As seen here: https://pewu.github.io/osm-his...
182024-04-15 09:56Kovirii
♦30
Hello again,
I see that you completely deleted certain ways, without local knowledge. This makes them difficult to restore, or requires other editors to recreate them.
Please do not do this.
https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-change-viz?c=149843868#3/46.32/-103.27
- Kovirii
192024-04-15 10:39Friendly_Ghost
♦636
@Kovirii I agree with your latest update of way 437189759. That said, keeping outdated name=...(closed) on objects would be unhelpful in most cases. An exception I can think of is https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/373633500, where the words "Ex Cinema" are literally on a sign on the buildi...
202024-04-16 00:31Kovirii
♦30
@Friendly_Ghost

I don't see how removing sites that are currently still vacant, and have not been redeveloped is "turning OSM into OHM." If they had been redeveloped, and the way was dating back decades I would be inclined to agree. However, St. Catherine's Indian School is st...
212024-04-16 08:30SomeoneElse
♦13,390
I've reverted this in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/150071599 for two reasons:
One is that it's essentially impossible to QA deletions in a worldwide changeset as there are no coordinates for deletion in the XML.
Another is that some actions taken here (for example on https://w...
222024-04-16 09:29dieterdreist Thank you, SomeoneElse!
232024-04-16 15:34ablevi202
♦41
No, strongly disagree. Reverting this was a terrible decision. Also how is that example surely wrong? I don't see what's wrong with it.
242024-04-16 21:53SomeoneElse
♦13,390
@ablevi202 Taking https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/684681276/history as an example, how is someone local to that area even supposed to know that the way was deleted in this changeset? How do we find out what it is now? An "amenity=school" way with a name of "Blackshear School (CLOS...
252024-04-16 22:01ablevi202
♦41
If its not actually a school anymore then why go out of your way to preserve it? The map shouldn't be made worse just so local mappers can find obvious errors easier. Having no data is much better than bunk data, someone can also see there's nothing there on the map and go look for it. Loc...
262024-04-17 12:35Kovirii
♦30
The map is not "being made worse." It's not "turning into OHM" either. If "having no data is much better," why are life cycle prefixes in widespread use? The goal should not be to return the state of OSM back to 2006. Instead add a fixme tag, add a note, make a pos...
272024-04-17 13:17SomeoneElse
♦13,390
This sort of discussion (all sides of it) would actually be a good one to have over at https://community.openstreetmap.org/ !
282024-04-17 14:54ablevi202
♦41
If there's literally nothing there anymore it should be deleted from the database. Removing things that no longer exist does make the map better. If someone is too lazy to check what's deleted that's entirely on them for choosing to not do qa work that's all on them, no one shoul...
292024-04-17 15:12SomeoneElse
♦13,390
In the example I quoted, we don't know whether there is "literally nothing there anymore". The imagery available to OSM suggests that actually there IS something still there; which just don't know what.

302024-04-17 15:15ablevi202
♦41
I meant no longer whats currently on the map, sorry.
312024-04-19 20:00maro21
♦714
> Complaining to mappers each time they make a big bbox isn't going to improve OSM in any way. You can direct those complaints to the OWG and ask them to implement better tools on the website.

Friendly_Ghost: Regardless of the tools available to check the changes, the community decided th...
322024-04-19 21:03ablevi202
♦41
The community has not decided that worldwide changesets are banned, let alone ones that are only several continents.
332024-04-19 23:41Friendly_Ghost
♦636
@maro21, I concur with ablevi here. There's no consensus on this, and there are some very good cases for large bboxes.

But if you really think your POV is the only right one, you can plead your case over at the OWG and ask them to block all changesets with a huge bbox. I'm sure they can...
342024-04-20 06:26silversurfer83
♦3,420
This is not about the nuisance of large bboxes. They are discouraged but not forbidden.

This is about the removal of totally information on a large scale! This goes against OTG, keep the history, mass edits, ... guidelines and therefore needs to stop.
352024-04-20 13:09Friendly_Ghost
♦636
maro21 was complaining about bboxes, so that's what I was commenting on.
149839662
by el_emka
@ 2024-04-10 21:26
12024-04-12 13:30dieterdreist please make and upload local changes. You should not upload edits in the Netherlands together with edits in Melbourne.
22024-04-12 13:35el_emka
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Sorry, this was no deliberate action as I was misguided by the app settings, which stated that all updates are uploaded immediately. It didn't state that they would still be part of the same changeset.
32024-04-12 15:08dieterdreist no worries, I just thought I'd point it out to you (because I was trying to analyze local changes and your changeset appeared), but you were by far not the only one.

Have fun mapping :)
122702646
by Claudio Tam
@ 2022-06-22 09:32
12024-04-11 09:35dieterdreist Ciao Claudio,
ti vorrei segnalare che questo tipo di relazione non va bene per come funzional OSM ("relations are not categories"). (riferendomi a lista dei 35 "Quartieri" di Roma), anche se ammetto ha una sua commodità. Il modo "giusto" sarebbe concordare dei t...
22024-04-11 10:45Claudio Tam
♦20
Ciao Martin!
Concordo totalmente.
32024-04-11 21:51dieterdreist ottimo. In realtà penso si possa discutere in questo caso, perché forse assimilabile alle relazioni amministrative, vedo un vantaggio che la relazione evidenza il concetto (chi vede un membro nell’editore capisce meglio che sia stato fatto appositamente e che si tratta di un conc...
42024-04-11 21:56dieterdreist forse riusciamo a documentare un tipo di relazione specifico oppure una combinazione di tag generici che ci consentono dire che sia un quartiere, una rione oppure una zona. Una relazione ha senso per i singoli componenti per poter riutilizzare i ways.
149564289
by EtVal
@ 2024-04-04 10:54
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12024-04-04 17:36dieterdreist this looks very much like vandalism and should likely be reverted
22024-04-05 08:41marczoutendijk
♦2,755
User is blocked and all edits have been reverted.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/15923

Marc Zoutendijk
OpenStreetMap Foundation
Data Working Group
32024-04-05 08:54marczoutendijk_repair
♦11,120
This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 149603227 where the changeset comment is: DWG revert due to vandalism.
116351557
by SekeRob
@ 2022-01-19 17:17
12024-03-18 12:12dieterdreist-CAI
♦33
Ciao Sekerob, riferito a questa relazione: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13187841/ vorrei ricordare il principio "KISS" (usare il metodo più semplice possibile), perché in questo caso, non ci sono legami tra i vari farmland, potrebbero essere benissimo oggetti indipe...
22024-03-18 13:39SekeRob
♦1,435
Hi Martin,

Really, so how did you get to this one, according my daily log somewhere on the 18-19th jan 2022. That was being led by example and by the nose of a 'I have been here many years' mapper who resides somewhere in the L'Aquila region. Stopped doing that roundabout 2 years a...
32024-03-18 14:26dieterdreist Hi, I found it by chance just rightclicking on a farmland and discovered it was a multipart multipolygon. I think using multipolygon relations to avoid overlapping ways is ok, but if there is no reason to combine several areas in one object (because they are something together), like here, it is bet...
42024-03-18 14:29dieterdreist oh, and thank you for splitting these multipolygons generally, sorry for barking up the wrong tree :)
137804801
by dieterdreist
@ 2023-06-26 18:42
12024-03-17 15:29NVBW_Seifert
♦24
Hallo dieterdreist,

Du hast in diesem Changeset den Aufzug zu Bahnsteg 5/6 als deaktiviert durch setzen von disused:highway=elevator.

Laut DB Fasta-API ist der Aufzug aktuell in Betrieb.

Wurde der im letzten Jahr erneuert oder aus welchem anderen Grund hast Du den letztes Jahr deaktiviert?
22024-03-18 12:31dieterdreist-CAI
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ob er erneuert wurde weiß ich nicht, aber als ich dort war konnte man ihn nicht benutzen, ausser Betrieb. Habe ich damals vor Ort festgestellt. M.E. sollte man nicht der API trauen sondern vor Ort nachsehen, ob der Aufzug jetzt wieder funktioniert, was ja gut sein kann. Mein Zug ist damals auc...
32024-03-18 12:31dieterdreist sorry, vom falschen Account geantwortet
145632352
by fayor
@ 2023-12-28 18:28
12024-03-06 06:31Đuro Jiří
♦284
Ciao fayor,ho notato che già qualche anno ( almeno quattro anni) stai cancellando informazioni aggiunte con applicazione StreetComplete (soprattutto accesso ai disabili, piste ciclabili,corsie, superficie stradale). Strano che nessuno ancora non è notato questo VANDALISMO. Chiedo cort...
22024-03-06 15:08fayor
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Te lo scrivo una volta soltanto, sperando di non dovertelo ripetere: puoi non essere d'accordo sul mio modo di mappare ma non chiamarlo vandalismo, che sicuramente non sai di cosa parli. È buona regola di mappatura quello di non aggiungere informazioni superflue, che sono inutili e appes...
32024-03-07 11:30dieterdreist sulla questione di default non esiste un consenso nel progetto. Il problema è che non avendo una informazione non si sa mai se era inteso il "default" oppure nessuno ha ancora verificato e inserito questa informazione.
42024-03-07 11:33dieterdreist comunque, "cycleway:right=no" senza nessun altro tag sulle infrastrutture e legalità ciclistiche, non mi sembra un buon tag, in questi casi sono d'accordo con Fayor: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/172093526/history
52024-03-07 12:48canfe
♦1,117
E invece no, è giusto dire che NON c'è una certa cosa. A patto che lo si possa evincere da immagini satellitari o survey sul posto.
62024-03-07 13:45amadvance
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Premetto che mi pare decisamente fuori luogo iniziare un discussione accusando di vandalismo un mappatore che, bisogna sempre supporre, stia operando in buona fede per cercare di migliorare il database. Non è il modo migliore per iniziare una discussione proficua.

Riguardo invece al merito...
72024-03-08 09:49catonano
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E' vero che non assumere la buona fede non è il modo migliore di aprire una discussione

Credo sia una differenza di assunti

Duro assume che i suoi contributi (che assolvono al suo caso d'uso specifico) siano legittimi e non sia necessario conquistare il consenso sul suo caso d...
82024-06-17 11:07Đuro Jiří
♦284
Ciao fayor,
penso che mi devi spiegare ancora una volta, perché stai sempre cancellando informazioni utili aggiunti da altri utenti con applicazione StreetComplete. Se alcuni informazioni, secondo te, sono inutili, sicuramente sono utili per OSM. Non stai facendo una mappa "propria"...
148006287
by ADAC Kartographie
@ 2024-02-28 10:08
12024-03-01 09:14Mammi71
♦253
Hallo ADAC,
die Schreibweise von Kiew/Kyjiw ist in OSM genauso stark diskutiert wie auf Wikipedia.
Die Bundesregierung via Auswärtiges Amt kann die Schreibweise für Bundesbehörden und Regierungsstellen vorschreiben. OSM bildet jedoch in name:de nicht begriffsbildend gewünschte...
22024-03-01 10:23dieterdreist Danke Mammi71, ergänzend geht es beim deutschen Namen um die deutsche Sprache, nicht um die amtliche Variante der Bundesrepublik Deutschland, es gibt noch mehrere andere Länder in denen Deutsch ebenfalls die offizielle Sprache ist, z.B. Österreich, Schweiz, Luxemburg, Italien (Sü...
32024-03-01 10:24dieterdreist es für amtliche Schreibweisen den tag "official_name"
42024-03-01 10:32ADAC Kartographie
♦8
Hallo zusammen, danke für euren Input. Ich habe meine Änderungen wieder rückgängig gemacht und die Bezeichnung Kyjiw unter official_name:de eingetragen (vgl. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/148090189).
52024-03-01 10:35dieterdreist danke, das ging schnell!
146867478
by LightSpirit
@ 2024-01-30 14:56
12024-02-25 17:07dieterdreist Hallo LightSpirit, habe gesehen dass Du hier ein Betretungsverbot getaggt hast, irgendwie scheint das nicht zu den anderen tags zu passen, war das Absicht?
114892253
by granpasso811
@ 2021-12-13 17:42
12024-02-12 11:24dieterdreist Buongiorno, ho notato che way 1011834469 è inserito in modo che vieta il transito per pedoni, ma allo stesso momento fa parte di una route turistica per pedoni. Forse manca un foot=yes / designated? Oppure si dovrebbe mettere bicycle=yes invece di designated?
Saluti
Martin
22024-02-12 17:42granpasso811
♦14
Buonasera, sì a mio parere dovrebbe essere bicycle=yes.
Saluti
32024-02-12 23:18dieterdreist grazie, ho cambiato questo e nel seguito da bicycle=designated in bicycle=yes
114795188
by granpasso811
@ 2021-12-10 18:36
12024-02-12 13:02dieterdreist Buongiorno granpasso, ho notato che qui hai rimosso il tag "route=hiking" senza sostituirlo eventualmente con un'altro, non è una route hiking?
Saluti,
M
22024-02-12 17:38granpasso811
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Buonasera, questa variante dell'IFF è intransitabile per numerosi alberi crollati e non è stata oggetto dei lavori di ripristino del Cai di Chiavari per i 700 anni dalla morte di Dante come invece il tracciato principale. Si potrebbe anche cancellare, di sicuro non lo farei risult...
32024-02-12 17:51granpasso811
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Aggiungo che coincideva in parte con il sentiero "quadrato rosso" che una volta partiva da Neirone. Lo stato di abbandono ha portato la fie a spostare la partenza a Corsiglia.
https://www.fieliguria.com/images/Sentieri-Zone-GENOVA/Zona5/Sentieri-GE-Zona-05.pdf
42024-02-13 11:49dieterdreist-CAI
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Grazie per la risposta, in realtà penso togliere route=hiking non sia il migliore approcchio al tema, perché descrive che la route è del tipo escursionismo (e non trasporto pubblico o altro). Se non è utilizzabile si potrebbe descrivere il problema con un tag "descri...
75303927
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2019-10-04 21:00
12019-11-18 15:41dieterdreist Hi, I have seen you have changed a lot of "crossing=zebra" which I have surveyed and which are actually zebra crossings, into "crossing=marked". Can you explain why you did it and why you believe this is not a loss of information?
22019-11-18 15:46dieterdreist Sorry, I am taking this mostly back (most of these are in Version 1 and not changes). Still, I do not understand why you have been using the undefined (undocumented) tag crossing=marked for what apparently are zebra crossings?
32024-02-11 19:34dieterdreist Ciao Michele, ho notato che hai rimosso shop=pastry dalla pasticceria Desideri e hai rimosso amenity=bar e messo amenity=cafe, ma si tratta di una pasticceria, in inverno non ci sono tavoli (e in estate pochi) e non esiste servizio, non è in nessuno modo un "cafe". Ci sei mai stato?
100942878
by Paolo58
@ 2021-03-13 07:02
12024-02-09 13:46dieterdreist Buongiorno Paolo, ho notato che hai modificato per way 776231297 la modalità di accesso da bicycle=yes in bicycle=destinated. Questo comporta che il sentiero non è più accessibile ai pedoni. Servirebbe probabilmente anche un foot=yes oppure foot=designated (il percorso fa anche ...
22024-02-09 13:47dieterdreist scusa, volevo scrivere "designated"
146385291
by Bobbi123
@ 2024-01-18 00:30
12024-02-07 08:14dieterdreist Hallo Bobbi123, offenbar gibt es noch erkennbare Spuren der Bahnlinie die du hier gelöscht hast?
22024-02-07 10:22Bobbi123
♦119
Wenn es als Frage gemeint ist: Aus meiner Sicht nein.

Wenn es also Feststellung gemeint ist: Wo genau sollen diese sein?
32024-02-07 12:59dieterdreist es war die Interpretation von “als solche erkennbar”, im Forum wurde gesagt: Zum Beispiel der alte Bahnhof Kinding und die Bahnbrücke Kipfenberg. Außerdem ist der Bahndamm, teils mit Stützmauern, in weiten Teilen erhalten (zum Großteil mit Gebüsch überwuch...
42024-02-07 13:33Bobbi123
♦119
Meinst du da im Forum, wo du mich erstmal beschimpft hast? Sehr seltsames Vorgehen, wenn man sachlich diskutieren möchte...
52024-02-08 11:17dieterdreist Beschimpfen würde ich das nicht nennen, ich gebe aber zu, dass man es auch anders hätte ausdrücken können und habe daher eine Alternativformulierung angeboten. Bei Löschgedanken hinsichtlich solcher Objekte in die sichtbar Herzblut geflossen ist, würde ich mir eigentlic...
62024-02-08 11:18dieterdreist fehlt ein "nicht" im letzten Satz
72024-02-08 14:43Bobbi123
♦119
Wie du das nennst und ob du jetzt eine „Alternativformulierung“ dort gemacht hast, macht es auch nicht mehr rückgängig. Es war und ist eine klare Beschimpfung von dir gegen mich und da erwarte ich eine unmissverständliche Entschuldigung von dir. Ansonsten hat jede weitere ...
82024-02-08 16:37dieterdreist Mein letzter Stand zu Bahnen ist, dass man die mappen kann auch wenn sie um- oder rückgebaut sind, solange es noch Spuren gibt anhand derer man sie erkennen kann, und gerade eben beim Thema Bahnfans war die Linie in OpenStreetMap immer tolerant, weil es eben auch nicht so viele davon gibt dass ...
92024-02-08 17:51Bobbi123
♦119
Wie gesagt: Ohne Entschuldigung von dir keine weitere Diskussion.
102024-02-08 18:06dieterdreist mehr Entschuldigung als das Klarstellen des Ausdrucks "auf die Finger klopfen" ist nicht drin, ich verstehe nicht, wo du die Beschimpfung siehst. Wenn Du das so erklären kannst dass ich es verstehe werde ich nochmal drüber nachdenken. Ehrlich gesagt war der Ausdruck "Lö...
112024-02-09 00:24Bobbi123
♦119
Du verstehst es einfach nicht…
147089907
by ayesha-abid
@ 2024-02-05 11:35
12024-02-05 15:55BCNorwich
♦4,857
Hi, Welcome to OpenStreetMap.

Thanks for your recent addition of info to the database.

I've reverted the road status to residential, as it's not a trunk road.

Regards Bernard.
22024-02-05 19:06dieterdreist Actually you did not it seems (maybe some problem with the upload?), so I did now.
Cheers,
Martin
32024-02-05 19:14BCNorwich
♦4,857
Hi Martin, Sorry for the confusion. I just now opened up JOSM and yes the change failed to upload. It was quite likely my fault though.

Regards Bernard.
42024-02-05 23:05dieterdreist you’re welcome :)
100792526
by Paolo58
@ 2021-03-10 17:17
12024-01-31 17:45dieterdreist Buonasera Paolo, ho notato che hai modificato alcuni path da bicycle=yes in bicycle=designated. Questo significherebbe di escludere i pedoni, è stato l'intenzione? Perché ho notato che vi passano dei sentieri escursionistici, e mi sembra improbabile questo tipo di restrizione.
S...
137169299
by cepesko
@ 2023-06-10 11:52
12023-12-14 21:37dieterdreist Hi, zufällig auf diesen Baum gestoßen, vielleicht ein Fall für natural=tree_stump oder gibt es keinen Stumpf?
Gruß
Martin
145052153
by chris66
@ 2023-12-12 20:17
12023-12-13 08:41dieterdreist Hallo Chris66,
Sehe gerade, dass du mit dem Kommentar "Schranken werden in OSM als Attribut am level_crossing erfasst" die Schrankenposition gelöscht hast. M.E. hast Du damit Informationen aus der db entfernt, und ich habe den Eindruck, das war dir auch klar, ober was sollte der tag ...
140679996
by saldenisov
@ 2023-09-01 13:29
12023-12-07 13:55dieterdreist Hi, I noticed you changed the name from "Flughafengefängnis" to "Zentrum für ausländerrechtliche Administrativhaft". Did you try to contact the original mappers? Are you aware we prefer ground truth to official status? It seems this could be a case for "offici...
141005887
by dieterdreist
@ 2023-09-08 23:41
12023-11-13 14:21marczoutendijk
♦2,755
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1206286187
bridge=1?
What is the meaning of that?
22023-11-13 14:40dieterdreist interestingly the tag has some historic usage http://taghistory.raifer.tech/#***/bridge/1
but here it is a typo for yes, sorry
135672711
by Carlo Terranova
@ 2023-05-03 18:36
12023-11-06 10:35dieterdreist buongiorno Carlo, ho appena vista la tua modifica, intanto, benvenuto ad OpenStreetMap e grazie per il tuo contributo! Mi sembra c'è stato un problema perché la relazione del 673 (Rho) è rimasta in OSM, mentre quasi tutti i tag sono stati cancellati: https://www.openstreetm...
22023-11-09 14:52Carlo Terranova
♦1
Ciao Martin, sì quando ho fatto la modifica del 673 ero alle prime armi con OpenStreetMap, avevo visto che sulla mappa esisteva ancora questa linea che non esiste più da anni perciò ho deciso di provare a eliminarla, ma non ci sono riuscito bene, e lo fatto un po' a caso, q...
32023-11-10 13:51dieterdreist figurati, grazie per la risposta!
120508883
by Dāvis Kļaviņš
@ 2022-05-03 17:18
12023-11-08 08:34dieterdreist Hi Dāvis, have a look now, the plural is clearly preferred: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=shop%3Dweighing#tags
111146003
by witkoo
@ 2021-09-13 13:26
12023-10-29 18:13dieterdreist Hi witkoo, please add surface values from survey, they cannot be seen reliably on aerial imagery, e.g. I noticed you added "asphalt" to the pedestrian area in front of the Basilica San Paolo, but there are paving stones. Fixed it now.

Anyway, have fun mapping :)
143172717
by save2king
@ 2023-10-26 17:31
12023-10-26 22:23dieterdreist Ciao, sembra che hai cancellato 2 vie, era quello che intendevi?
22023-10-26 22:30dieterdreist I have reverted this changeset because it looks like vandalism.
130420944
by pboscherini
@ 2022-12-23 13:01
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12023-10-11 08:09dieterdreist Ciao Pboscherini, ho notato che hai aggiunto un distributore di acqua minerale acea, ottimo, cosa mi stupisce: ci sono anche tag wikipedia e wikidata che sembrano indicare si tratta di un nasone. Ho cercato di guardare la foto in "image", ma mi risponde con "Bad URL hash". Ti ric...
22023-10-11 14:34pboscherini
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32023-10-12 09:23dieterdreist Ciao Piergiorgio,
purtroppo non ho uno script per cercare immagini "rotti", credo di ricordare che qualcuno abbia fatto in precedenza e pubblicato i risultati, ho cercato qui https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quality_assurance ma senza trovare. C'é un workflow che però...
42023-10-12 10:12etrumap
♦1
Qualche tempo fa ho mappato un distributore acea così:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1149904682
non è necessariamente il tagging migliore, ma "funziona" senza dover storcere il significato dei tag.
52023-10-12 10:45pboscherini
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72023-10-12 11:35dieterdreist Ciao Piergiorgio, non sono un amministratore, sono un utente semplice come te. Di amministratori pagati ce ne sono meno di 5, credo 1-2. Se vuoi fissare il link secondome ti conviene usare un'altra soluzione dove carichi l'immagine, che offre link permanenti.
82023-10-12 11:39dieterdreist > ''Rimango in attesa di una gentile proposta di pianificazione di: "lavorazione delle code broken-link per singole utenze openstreetmap.org".''

per lavorare le code, mi vongono in mente due soluzioni, maproulette e task manager.
https://www.maproulette.org/
htt...
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91048628
by Antanicus
@ 2020-09-17 12:42
12023-10-03 10:06dieterdreist Ciao Antanicus, ho notato che hai inserito questo punto con nome "Nasone", ma non capisco il tag "stand pipe", è una fontanella del tipo nasone? Suggerisco di usare il tag amenity=drinking_water insieme al tag fountain=nasone in questo caso.
Saluti,
Martin
22023-10-11 07:24Antanicus
♦8
Ciao, grazie per la segnalazione. Penso sia stata una decisione autonoma di Osmand, forse gli sviluppatori hanno deciso che un oggetto fontanella andava segnato come "stand pipe". Correggo il nodo :)
32023-10-11 07:56dieterdreist ottimo, grazie!
142089181
by dieterdreist
@ 2023-10-03 08:43
12023-10-03 14:11Sandal man
♦391
Hello,
Welcome to OSM and thanks for contributing :-)
But please make smalle change sets, this helps others in tracking changes.
Why? Have a look at the section
"Geographical size of changesets" on this wiki page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Changeset

Thank you.
22023-10-03 17:04dieterdreist thank you, I’ll be more careful next time to avoid big bounding boxes. I rarely perform this kind of “gardening” anyway. Have fun mapping
57804387
by A-U-X
@ 2018-04-04 13:48
12023-09-17 19:36dieterdreist Hi, I just noticed you have duplicated the hollywood sign letters with nodes in this changeset, isn’t this duplicate information then?
22023-09-19 18:33A-U-X
♦7
Hi, don't know, Change it as it is correct
32023-09-19 19:16dieterdreist not sure what is „correct“ :)
42023-09-20 08:28A-U-X
♦7
It is assembled with lines and is not visible on the map, I added it differently, now it is visible :)) If you have a better idea, correct it :))
52023-09-20 08:50dieterdreist I think we can have either the ways or the nodes but not both. The nodes are rendered and the ways show the width, so there are arguments for both.
92987439
by Antanicus
@ 2020-10-24 12:48
12023-09-14 15:34dieterdreist Ciao, ho notato che hai aggiunto stop=minor al nodo 7995768339. Non capisco da dove viene, perché in Italia non abbiamo una legge che prevede questo tipo di stop. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:stop

Ciao,
Martin
22023-10-11 08:08Antanicus
♦8
Ciao, probabilmente da un errore! :)
140196833
by dieterdreist
@ 2023-08-21 19:01
12023-08-22 20:18Supaplex030
♦397
Hey, was meinst du denn in diesem Fall mit "abandoned=yes" am Straßenbrunnen? Ist er kaputt, unzugänglich o.ä.?

(letzte Mapillary-Aufnahme: https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=52.5379907&lng=13.4112729&z=17&focus=photo&panos=true&dateFrom=2022-01-01&am...
22023-09-04 00:01dieterdreist damit meine ich, dass ich dort war, und den Brunnen ausprobiert habe, und es gab keinen Widerstand an der Pumpe und es kam auch kein Wasser, selbst nach vielem Pumpen nicht. Daher gehe ich davon aus, dass der Brunnen zumindest derzeit nicht nutzbar ist um an Wasser zu gelangen.
32023-09-04 00:02dieterdreist und weil das offenbar laut history schon seit mind. 2 Jahren so ist, schien mir abandoned passend.
139208153
by Ammersee Westcoast
@ 2023-07-30 12:40
12023-07-31 08:43dieterdreist access=no ist aber kein tag um die Eignung eines Weges abzubilden, vielmehr drückt das ein Verbot aus.
139210750
by Hubert Wendler
@ 2023-07-30 13:51
12023-07-30 15:00martinst
♦319
In OSM wird die Wirklichkeit abgebildet, auch Traktorwege im Wald etc. können erfasst werden
Deine Löschung betrifft auch deutlich im Luftbild sichbare Fahrspuren und ist auf jeden Fall zu pauschal.
Revertiert in Changeset: 139213441
22023-07-30 16:20Hubert Wendler
♦1
Wir sind Revierinhaber, Jagdpächter und auch teilweise Grundstückseigentümer (Waldbesitzer) in Utting. Die in OSM dargestellten (gelöschten) Wege, sind keine Wege, sondern private Waldwege (Holzrückegassen), die auch nicht gekiest sind sondern nur Waldboden. Das mag auch im ...
32023-07-30 19:18mcliquid
♦1,863
Hallo Herr Wendler, ich kann Ihren Standpunkt nachvollziehen, möchte Sie aber mit ein paar Argumenten und der richtigen Technik in OpenStreetMap dazu bewegen, die Wege in der Karte zu belassen und nur diese als "privat" zu markieren.

Das Prinzip der Überprüfbarkeit (auch ...
42023-07-30 20:20Hubert Wendler
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Danke für das schnelle Reagieren und Ihre Antwort.
Dann lassen Sie uns das mal probieren mit "privat" dann schauen wir nach 4 Wochen was passiert, bzw. ob sich das bessert.
Nehme an, dass Sie diese Änderung dann vornehmen werden.
Vielen Dank im Voraus
52023-07-30 23:27dieterdreist Für Fußgänger darf man hier den Weg wahrscheinlich gar nicht sperren, access=private oder gar „no“ ist daher vermutlich nicht zutreffend. Zur Situation des Fahrradfahrens im Bayrischen Waldgesetz kann ich nichts sagen.
62023-07-31 06:41Hubert Wendler
♦1
Frage:
antworten mir hier auf dieser Ebene User / Komunity-Mitglieder (unter Alias-Namen), die eventl. selber kartiert haben und weiterhin gerne solche privaten "Nicht-Wege" benutzen wollen, oder antworten mir hier Administratoren von OSM, die dort eine Funktion bekleiden ?
Hubert Wend...
72023-07-31 08:40dieterdreist ich habe kein persönliches Interesse an diesen Wegen bzw. Nichtwegen. Weiterhin will ich keineswegs Radfahrer in Schutz nehmen die im Wald fahren wo sie es nicht dürfen oder rumschreien und das Wild aufscheuchen. Diese sind aber nur ein Teil der Waldbesucher. Es geht mir darum, Vandalismus...
133480174
by geozeisig
@ 2023-03-09 13:56
12023-07-25 09:19dieterdreist undiscussed mass edit
91340358
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2020-09-23 06:40
12020-09-27 16:53dieterdreist in this changeset there are traffic light controlled crossing mistagged as crossings without lights
22023-07-20 13:21dieterdreist La piazza a montagnola per me non è in parco, è una piazza
32023-07-20 13:22dieterdreist sapevi che si può rispondere ai commenti?
42023-07-20 19:02ivanbranco
♦2,701
@dieterdreist ha 34 changeset commentati senza risposta, può anche essere che l'email con cui si è iscritto non sia piu' valida e quindi non riceva le notifiche.
134752062
by Alberto Lionking
@ 2023-04-10 23:26
12023-07-19 15:31dieterdreist-CAI
♦33
Buonasera Alberto, ho notato che in questo edit sono stato aggiunti i tags "foot=no" e "bicycle=no" al track way 715736798, mi sembra molto improbabilme perché il percorso fa parte di un sentiero del CAI, mi potresti spiegare la situazione?
Grazie,
Martin
22023-07-19 16:13Alberto Lionking
♦1
Buonasera Martin,
sono stato in quella zona alcuni mesi fa. Mi ricordo di aver "corretto" il sentiero, ma di non aver modificato alcun tags. Se l'ho fatto è stato per distrazione. Comunque ora ho rivisto il tutto e indicato quei tratti accessibili sia a piedi che in bicicletta...
32023-07-19 16:20dieterdreist-CAI
♦33
Buonasera Alberto, sei stato molto veloce, grazie per la risposta e risoluzione del problema,

Saluti e buona mappatura,
Martin
42023-07-19 16:25dieterdreist-CAI
♦33
ho notato che sono rimasto "horse=no" e "motor_vehicle=no", ammetto che non conosco bene la zona, ma al meno per i motor_vehicle suppongo ci siano delle eccezioni (per accedere a foreste e campi con i mezzi agricoli), probabilmente invece di "no" dovrebbe essere "p...
52023-07-19 16:37Alberto Lionking
♦1
Quel tratto è ancora molto impervio.
Ci sono molti sassi lungo il percorso. Ho lasciato "bicycle=yes" ma pensando solo di farlo in discesa.
In salita è improponibile.
62023-07-19 17:07dieterdreist ci sarebbero tags per la difficoltà, mtb:scale e mtb:scale:uphill https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mtb:scale
puoi anche non mettere bicycle e altri access tag, il default su track per bicycle sarebbe “yes”, in generale la cosa importante che tutti i tags “access&rdqu...
129654970
by wsoroe
@ 2022-12-02 18:58
12023-07-16 20:53chris66
♦367
Hi. Wieso hast du denn die Adresse von der Bräutigamseiche entfernt?
22023-07-17 13:07wsoroe
♦33
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/321892508/history#map=16/54.1355/10.5575
Vergleiche Version #7 und #8
32023-07-17 14:10chris66
♦367
Verstehe nicht, was das mit der Adresse zu tun hat. Egal, ist gefixt.
42023-07-19 05:38Mammi71
♦253
Was bitte soll denn an der Adresse nicht OSM kompatibel sein? Ich sehe hier keine Inkompatibilität. Bitte nicht nur auf Wiki-Artikel verweisen, sondern erläutere bitte Dein Problem. Nur weil irgendein Validator was zu Meckern hat, muss man nicht gleich die Adressdaten löschen. Es gilt...
52023-07-19 07:28dieterdreist Es gibt keine Adressen die nicht kompatibel sind mit OpenStreetMap, sofern es für ein bestimmtes Format noch keine etablierten tags gibt könnte man sie einführen. Bitte sorgfältiger vorgehen beim Editieren, und nicht blind den QA tools folgen, die bieten nur allgemeine Hinweise, ...
118528104
by Leonardo Moretti
@ 2022-03-15 21:31
12023-07-13 11:51dieterdreist Ciao Leonardo Moretti, ho notato che hai cancellato questa relazione perché era un doppione di https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10351210
Generalmente cerchiamo di mantenere sempre l'oggetto più vecchio (per avere tipicamente lo storico più completo e per "onora...
22023-07-13 22:04Leonardo Moretti
♦3
Ciao Martin,
nel caso specifico la relazione cancellata aveva una sola way membro, mentre quella rimasta ne aveva oltre 30 e mi sembrava in generale più completa e aggiornata.
Se però il criterio deve essere preservare l'ID più basso (e quindi la relazione più vec...
32023-07-14 08:26dieterdreist Buongiorno Leonardo,

grazie per la risposta veloce. Capisco il ragionamento della relazione più dettagliata e lunga, con più versioni ecc.. Il punto con l'id più piccolo è che chi ha creato il doppione (id più alto) ha sbagliato perché avrebbe dovuto...
59921501
by gnastyle
@ 2018-06-17 19:04
12021-02-17 16:05dieterdreist Ciao gnastyle, ho notato che hai messo "access=customers" al parcheggio angolo Via Genocchi/Colombo. In realtà questo non è il parcheggio del secchio e l'olivaro, e si può parcheggiare chi vuole. Di giorno è a pagamento e viene gestito da Ass.ta. A.G.A.
Un...
22023-07-06 15:13dieterdreist Ciao gnastyle, ho solo adesso notato che hai cancellato il civico (ingresso) qui:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2574719169/history

ti prego di non farlo, questo è il civico (mentre sul ciclista si tratta di un indirizzo).

Grazie,
Martin
137919218
by dieterdreist
@ 2023-06-29 13:34
12023-07-04 20:49captain_slow
♦66
Hallo dieterdreist, ich habe dieses Changeset revertiert (mit Changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/138122469), da es die Geometrie des Zürich Hauptbhanhof unbeabsichtig stark geändert hat. Die Änderung an der Metzgerei Oskar Zeeb habe ich in Changeset https://www.openstre...
22023-07-04 21:45dieterdreist Hallo und vielen Dank, wollte es aufgrund deiner Nachricht heute Nachmittag gerade selbst machen, war leider nicht früher dazu gekommen.
Gruß,
Martin
32023-07-04 21:48dieterdreist PS: sorry, die Nachricht war von einem anderen user.
135893903
by dieterdreist
@ 2023-05-09 12:30
12023-05-11 20:39GBAB
♦101
Lieber Dieter,
es sieht so aus dass zwar die Castle tags gelöscht sind, aber ein note= Tag an vielen Orten geblieben ist.
Z.B.: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10840537009
Gruß
Gábor
22023-05-11 21:05dieterdreist Das ist mir bewusst, weil es so aussieht als wäre das sinnvolle Information, also refs der Gebäude oder Eingänge, dem muss aber noch nachgegangen werden. Oder hast du anderes beobachtet?
135469685
by Xyshnyk1990
@ 2023-04-28 13:24
Active block
12023-05-03 22:07dieterdreist I don’t know exactly what is happening here but I am going to revert all your changes. Please do not upload invented features.
123929318
by AlCeRoma
@ 2022-07-22 09:27
12023-03-27 17:16dieterdreist Ciao AlCeRoma, sei sicuro che nel Forlanini non è più aperto nessuno reparto? 2 anni fa sembrava tutto abbandonato (e lo era per la più grande parte), ma alcuni reparti erano ancora in funzione, ad esempio la medicina nucleare.
22023-03-28 10:31AlCeRoma
♦9
Il reparto di medicina nucleare, l'ultimo attivo del Forlanini, è stato trasferito nel 2021 (vedi qui: https://www.confinelive.it/nuovo-reparto-di-medicina-nucleare-inaugurato-al-san-camillo-di-roma/).
L'opsedale è definitivamente chiuso, credo siano rimasti solo alcuni uffi...
32023-03-28 10:36dieterdreist se ci sono alcuni uffici, si potrebbe dire che non è del tutto inutilizzato, no? Rimuovo allora la medicina nucleare (che a dire il tutto, sembrava già abbandonata quando l'ho inserita io, se non ci fossero stati i pazienti e dottori...)
42023-03-28 10:44AlCeRoma
♦9
non sono sicuro della presenza di uffici, è solo una mia ipotesi. L'ultima volta che ci sono passato davanti ho visto auto parcheggiate all'interno...
52023-03-28 11:37dieterdreist ah ok, potrebbero benissimo essere impiegati o pazienti del San Camillo che parcheggiano lì e vanno là. L'ultima volta che ci sono stato io hanno girato un film. Per ora finchè non troviamo nuove indicazioni va bene così (disused).
Saluti,
Martin
131806091
by ChillyDL
@ 2023-01-28 12:42
12023-03-26 12:47SomeoneElse
♦13,390
Hello,
The same questions as always:
1) What actual tag changes did you make here (I'm assuming there was no survey involved)
2) Where did you discuss this? I only see reference to archaeological sites at https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/implementation-of-new-tagging-scheme-of-archaeol...
22023-03-26 17:56ChillyDL
♦100
Hello SomeoneElse,
I suppose you mean your questions as always? This is only the 3rd time we talk about a changeset, and never before did you ask those questions. So for us a first time.

The tag changes in these 16 objects were mainly the removal of redundant "site_type=" tags, occasi...
32023-03-26 22:43dieterdreist this is not simply "database quality assurance", it is remote tag fiddling supposedly without knowledge about the objects. It looks as if the basis is the removal of "site_type" tags from objects that you do not consider valid archaeolgical sites because they seem not "suffi...
42023-03-27 07:53ChillyDL
♦100
I did not decide on their status as archaeological sites. They were not tagged as such, but used the deprecated `site_type=industrial` where other objects in the area use `historic=industrial`. The situation in this case was that in the Yorkshire Dales and North Pennines, a tagging as `historic=indu...
52023-03-27 11:31dieterdreist Yes, I apologize, did not want to make a big fuzz, this is very reduced in extent (and not an area I am familiar with admittedly). I would not see "site_type" deprecated if these are not historic=archaeological_site[s] because that proposal was only for archaeological sites. I continue to ...
62023-03-27 17:32ChillyDL
♦100
All well, let's do it like this.
And yes, true, referring to "site_type=" as deprecated in this context was misleading. It is not.
89001735
by Frugol
@ 2020-08-05 21:05
12020-09-16 09:46dieterdreist Ciao Ludofru,

ho visto che hai inserito degli highway=crossing con crossing=marked. Penso sarebbe meglio inserire gli incroci con le strisce (solo strisce) come crossing=zebra e quelle con i semafori crossing=traffic_lights. Che ne pensi?

Un saluto,
Martin
22020-09-16 09:47dieterdreist Hi Ludofru,
I just noticed you are using an English locale. Question is about crossing=marked. This is a very unspecific tag, I would encourage you to use crossing=zebra and crossing=traffic_lights instead. Thank you.
Martin
32020-09-16 09:59dieterdreist sorry for the type, of course I meant crossing=traffic_signals
42023-03-26 23:19dieterdreist cancellato anche il way originale del circo massimo del 2007, way 11358744
81782421
by Frugol
@ 2020-03-04 15:40
12021-03-17 19:16dieterdreist Ciao Ludofru, qui sono stato cambiati crossing=traffic_signals in crossing=marked (forse tramite edit automatico di iD). Ti prego di non farlo, perché "marked" può essere qualsiasi cosa (zebra, semaforo, ecc.), mentre "zebra" e "traffic_signals" sono pi&ug...
22023-03-26 23:17dieterdreist Vedo solo ora che in questo changeset hai cancellato svariati landuse=residential precisi e sostituiti con uno grezzo che contiene qualsiasi landuse, compreso strade, alberghi, parchi, piazze ecc. Un esempio è way 219542092
96817624
by Romainmovimento
@ 2021-01-02 17:32
12023-02-12 22:32dieterdreist Ciao,
ho notato che hai cancellato la pista ciclabile e messo dei tag alla strada: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/157689684/history
Questo significa perdere informazioni, suggerisco di ripristinare la pista con way dedicato (undelete, per non perdere lo storico).
Saluti,
Martin
22023-03-24 09:21dieterdreist Mi sembra che la pista risulti ancora cancellata, hai intenzione di ripristinare ciò che hai cancellata, o ti serve aiuto?
133933897
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2023-03-21 10:24
12023-03-23 10:11dieterdreist Ciao Michele,
ho visto che hai modificato il Bar di Montebello (stazione) da amenity=bar in amenity=cafe, ma non mi sembra ci siano tavoli da sedersi o servizio, ma forse ricordo male?
Un saluto,
Martin
58897456
by dieterdreist
@ 2018-05-12 08:52
12023-03-22 12:42Mateusz Konieczny
♦7,666
Hello!

I know that it is an ancient edit, but maybe you are still mapping in this area...

What you mapped as shop=internet in this edit ?

Is it an internet cafe (amenity=internet_cafe)?

Office where you can sign up for internet service?

Something related to online shopping (pickup poi...
22023-03-22 16:26dieterdreist Hi, you cannot sign up for internet service, may "internet cafe" is ok, although it is not a cafe, they have some pcs where you can connect to the internet based on minutely billing (IIRR), and they offer some additional services such as sending and receiving fax and photocopying on a fax ...
32023-03-23 09:00Mateusz Konieczny
♦7,666
> they have some pcs where you can connect to the internet based on minutely billing (IIRR),

That is exactly amenity=internet_cafe

See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dinternet_cafe

Though such places nowadays got rare as person without smartphone got rare
42023-03-23 09:22dieterdreist There are additional services like printing and cd-burning (which maybe also are old fashioned now) which they used to offer. This one also sold public transport tickets (but not signs that it did), and maybe more, as I wrote, I'm gonna check if it still exists and what their main business is.
131373476
by unni-geo
@ 2023-01-17 11:03
12023-03-21 17:57dieterdreist Hi, du hast den ERP auf circular umgetaggt allerdings ist die Vorfahrtsregelung wie ein Kreisverkehr (abgesehen davon dass es Ampeln gibt). So eindeutig ist es nicht, dass junction=roundabout ein Kreisverkehrszeichen erfordert, wenn es eins gibt ist es sicher zwingend, aber wenn es keins gibt kö...
87221929
by Antanicus
@ 2020-06-27 09:39
12023-03-19 21:11dieterdreist Ciao, ho notato che uno dei fix era la rimozione dell’indirizzo del punto ristoro. Ti chiedo gentilmente di stare attento non tutte le segnalazioni degli editori sono errori, grazie
buona mappatura,
Martin
109217398
by Dino Michelini
@ 2021-08-05 18:48
12023-03-15 08:33dieterdreist Buongiorno Dino,

guardando Monte Santa Caterina mi chiedo da dove viene l'altezza, https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5976615274/history
confrontando con le curve di livello (e anche stando alla riva opposta del lago) non sembra sia così alto. Ti riccordi dove l'hai presa ("...
22023-03-15 13:46Dino Michelini
♦321
Si hai ragione è un errore tra 0 e 9. Il dato dell’elevazione è un rilievo di quanto facevo le pattuglie topografiche come allievo ufficiale a Cesano. Grazie
32023-03-15 13:52dieterdreist Grazie della risposta, ho corretto: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/133711183
(spero di aver capito bene).

saluti,
Martin
42023-03-15 14:01Dino Michelini
♦321
Perfetto. Grazie
99468006
by Dino Michelini
@ 2021-02-17 17:14
12023-03-14 13:22dieterdreist Ciao,
ho notato che hai rimosso landcover=trees e sostituito landuse=forest con natural=wood. Non mi interessa la seconda modifica, perché si tratta effettivamente di sinonimi, ma perché hai rimosso il tag "landcover"?

Saluti,
Martin
22023-03-15 13:44Dino Michelini
♦321
Ciao, provo a rispondere... Wood e forest non sono proprio sinonimi: wood sono i boschi naturali (per capirci ad es. la faggeta di Oriolo dove non si praticano tagli) forest sono i boschi cedui dove con turnazione di tot anni si procede al taglio.
Secondo me landcover è un tag sinonimo che n...
68852218
by nmotupal
@ 2019-04-03 18:21
12023-03-10 13:48dieterdreist Hi, I noticed you added this way with access=private: way 681450489
Can you confirm this is from survey, or were you just guessing? It doesn't look as if all of it is just a driveway.
Cheers,
Martin
22023-03-13 08:09sanganh
♦6
Hi Martin,
Thank you for reviewing our changeset and flagging out the issue.It's an honest mistake from our end. I have made the necessary changes in the changeset.Always happy to learn from the community.Thanks once again,looking forward to learn more from you.
Regards,
sanganh
32023-03-13 18:43dieterdreist Hi sanganh,

thank you for replying, my suggestion would be to tag only those ways with access tags where you have checked it on the ground, and otherwise you just map the driveway without adding acccess tags.
42023-03-13 18:44dieterdreist forgot, thank you for fixing the issue. Have a nice day,
Cheers,
Martin
17138515
by tomtom97
@ 2013-07-29 12:15
12015-04-04 13:27luschi
♦417
perché hai messo access=permissive sulla SS48?
22023-02-27 13:12dieterdreist Hello, I noticed you added foot=no to the SS48 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/175581384/history
This is a legal access restriction, and it also extents to implicit sidewalks in villages etc., so it is usually wrong unless it is explicitly signposted or a motorway. There are hiking relations on ...
32023-02-27 17:24luschi
♦417
Hi,
I have checked(Mapillary) the SS48 from `Hotel Lupo Bianco` up to the `Passo Pordoi` and there is no traffic sing that define any access. nothing found about food and nothing about horse
42023-03-03 13:16dieterdreist Hi Luschi, thank you for checking and sorry for replying late. It seems the access restriction should be removed, and I have partially done so where the hiking route runs, but there are more (results of way splits) where I am not sure and just added a fixme for the moment. If you are sure they shoul...
52023-11-30 12:06Anonix35
♦60
Hi,
I removed the restrictive tags regarding pedestrians and horses. In fact, no sign indicates this.
I also updated the speeds on the SS242 and 48
Andrea
112535093
by dieterdreist
@ 2021-10-15 09:41
12023-03-02 15:36Tjuro_QA
♦43
Hello dieterdreist,
I seems that you have added an man_made=flowerbed:
https://www.osm.org/way/993018375

I recently started documenting and using landcover=flowerbed as an alternative to the controversial landuse=flowerbed.

https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Tag:landcover=flowerbed

Would ...
22023-03-02 19:18dieterdreist actually I do mind, there is already a different landcover, while it is physically a flowerbed construction, there is currently only grass in it, your proposal would lead to information loss in this case. Generally I would see flower beds as part of the countable items, hence I would prefer somethin...
32023-03-03 08:08ManualTagFixer
♦42
A, I see what you mean now, it is just a bit of a hard problem.
So, if I understand you correctly, you can have man_made=flowerbed + landcover=grass/dirt/ect, to indicate the landcover most of the year. And then use the man_made=flowerbed that it has been seeded with flowers?
Greetings,
Tjuro
42023-03-03 08:35dieterdreist I think this particular one isn’t seeded since many years, in general I think we should distinguish between the structure (flowerbed as a countable feature) and eventually what is growing there, and we should use different values and not just different keys (to avoid confusion)
39335875
by IIVQ
@ 2016-05-15 17:45
12023-02-22 10:58dieterdreist Hi, I noticed you have created ways with access=private, for example here: way 418338778
This tag means that the way is not generally accessible. But these ways (some of them) are part of hiking relations, so the tag seems likely to be in error, do you remember why you set it?
Cheers,
Martin
22023-02-23 15:22IIVQ
♦136
Hi.
This is strange, I can not remember why I made this edit. In fact, I can not remember ever having been in this area, so I don't know why I changed or even created these ways.
I would be ok with you removing the access=private.
32023-02-24 11:06dieterdreist it is strange, because the from the history of the nodes it is clear that you not only created the way (as it would be possible e.g. by splitting an existing way), but you actually drew this way and added the access-tags, likely you did so after a ground survey.
Cheers,
Martin
35613943
by Gavaasuren
@ 2015-11-27 15:56
12023-02-22 18:22dieterdreist Hi, habe gerade durch Zufall diese Relation entdeckt: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5699948
das ist die Art von Multipolygon die m.E. die Karte unnötig kompliziert macht. Das ist keine zusammengehörige Fläche sondern einfach alle Fußgängerflächen in der Gegen...
91509746
by redrace
@ 2020-09-25 12:27
12023-02-20 17:27dieterdreist Hi, du hast den Weg way 851516211 auf razed:highway=track gesetzt, aber laut Strava ist der Weg in Benutzung, außerdem führt eine CAI-Wanderroute darüber. Evtl. ist das jetzt ein path?

Gruß,
Martin
22023-02-20 18:02redrace
♦158
Das ist zwei Jahre her. Als ich da war, war da kein Weg sichtbar! Ein Jahr vorher war da ein schwerer Sturm, und so sah es da dann auch aus. Infornationen von Anwohnern besagten, das der Weg wahrscheinlich nicht wieder aufgemacht wird. Naturschutz! Wenn da wieder ein Weg ist dann kannst Du das ä...
32023-02-21 09:09dieterdreist danke für die Antwort, ich habe in Strava gesehen dass der Weg genutzt wird und ich habe vom SAT die Daten der Route die da drüber führt, aber ich war nicht vor Ort und lasse es erstmal so, werde aber den SAT benachrichtigen und sie fragen ob sie aktuelle Vor-Ort-Kenntnisse haben, es ...
42023-02-21 09:47redrace
♦158
Ich habe mir mal die Bingbilder von 2022 angeschaut, und da sieht es so aus als würde da wieder ein Weg sein.
52023-02-22 17:36dieterdreist ja, habe ich auch gesehen, allerdings bin ich mir nicht ganz sicher ob track oder path. Wenn Du einverstanden bist würde ich die Beweislage vom Schreibtisch aus hier ausreichend bewerten (Luftbild und Strava heatmap und Nähe zu Bebauung) um davon auszugehen, dass die Wege mittlerweile wied...
62023-02-22 17:48redrace
♦158
Huhu
Mach das. Ich komme da nie nächste Zeit sowieso nicht mehr hin.😁
Gruß Meik
72023-02-22 18:12dieterdreist fertig, danke nochmal für das fruchtbare Gespräch.
82023-02-22 18:26redrace
♦158
Sehr gerne! 😁
49045067
by simone_girardelli
@ 2017-05-28 12:52
12023-02-22 10:56dieterdreist Buongiorno Simone,
Ho notato che la way 496454161 contiene il tag access=private, ciò significa che non è accessibile. Come può far parte di una relazione di sentiero?

Ciao,
Martin
22023-02-23 17:17simone_girardelli
♦29
Ciao Martin, in teoria si tratta di tratto di strada forestale per uso boschivo e richiede in questo caso permesso, quindi accessibile a piedi.
Però non ho sottomano lo shapefile delle strade forestali, ammesso e concesso sia aggiornato.
devo vedere appena ho tempo.
122328598
by Dario Toso
@ 2022-06-13 14:36
12023-02-16 12:02dieterdreist anche qui lo stesso problema di allineamento
122419633
by Dario Toso
@ 2022-06-15 13:37
12023-02-16 09:36dieterdreist Buongiorno Dario Toso,
ti segnalo che qui hai allineato le geometrie ad una ortofoto disallineata creando così uno scostamento. Bisogna sempre tenere in mente che le ortofoto possono essere disallineati (e lo sono spesso), quindi non fidarsi delle ortofoto. Sono le tracce gpx che non hanno d...
122320726
by Dario Toso
@ 2022-06-13 11:20
12023-02-13 11:57dieterdreist Ciao Dario,

ho notato che hai spostato delle geometrie secondo una foto aerea
https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=122320726
purtroppo quella foto non era posizionata bene. Ti chiedo di non fidarti delle ortofoto quando ci sono gli offset, bisogno guardare più foto e soprattutto le ...
123360543
by ascanio12
@ 2022-07-08 12:19
12023-02-12 18:49dieterdreist Buonasera Ascanio12,

mi sono guardato queste modifiche e ti vorrei dire che le tracce gpx spesso non sono molto precisi e non si possono implementare 1:1 così come sono. In particolare nel punto visibile qui https://ibb.co/dQXw33f hai introdotto tanti nodi che non sembrano reali (la tua mo...
131555036
by Interteutones
@ 2023-01-21 22:02
12023-01-22 16:42Langlaeufer
♦1,315
Hallo Interteutones,
das die Gleise irgendwann abgebaut wurden ist noch kein Grund die korrekt erfassten ehemaligen Bahnstrecken zu löschen., solange sie noch im Gelände erkennbar sind.
Grüße Langlaeufer
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Publishe...
22023-01-22 16:59Interteutones
♦43
Hallo,

ich bin da persönlich absolut deiner Meinung. Habe mir deshalb aber schon eine einwöchige Sperre eingehandelt. Laut dem Herrn Frederik Ramm von OSM sollen die ehemaligen Bahnlinien entfernt werden. Es wurden in der Vergangenheit zu viele Bahnstrecken in die Karten aufgenommen, wo...
32023-01-23 07:16dieterdreist Hat Frederik dich mit der Löschung beauftragt? Anderenfalls ist er kein Ansprechpartner für Dinge die du gelöscht hast.
Gruß Martin
42023-01-23 07:41Langlaeufer
♦1,315
Wenn du nicht der Meinung bist, das dies gelöscht werden soll, dann verstehe ich ehrlich gesagt nicht, wieso du hier aktiv wurdest und die Arbeit eines anderen Mappers zerstörst.
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#REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/cha...
52023-01-23 10:53Interteutones
♦43
Ich hatte dir die Antwort auf deine Frage gestern schon geschrieben. Bitte durchlesen. Es kommt hier nicht auf meine Meinung an.
MfG
62023-01-23 11:06Interteutones
♦43
Ja, es war Herr Frederik Ramm. Ob er Ansprechpartner ist oder nicht weis ich nicht. Meines Erachtens ist er so etwas wie ein Ombudsmann.
Jedenfalls hatte ich mit Herr Ramm diesbezüglich mehrmals Kontakt. Es ist überdies auch in der, Lage den Zugang hier zu sperren, was in meinem Fall wege...
72023-01-23 12:10Langlaeufer
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Niemand kann dich zwingen Daten zu verändern, die andere Nutzer eingetragen haben. Du bist nur für deine Bearbeitungen verantwortlich und wirst ggf. gebeten diese zu korrigieren.
82023-01-23 13:03Langlaeufer
♦1,315
Ich möchte dich bitten solche Rachelöschungen künftig zu unterlassen.
92023-01-23 13:27Interteutones
♦43
Bitte unterstelle mir nicht solchen Nonsens. Ich habe nun schon wiederholt geschrieben, dass ich selbst abgebaute Bahnen eingetragen habe und hierfür eine Sperre erhielt. Ich hatte auch schon wiederholt darum gebeten bei Rückfragen Herrn Ramm zu konsultieren. Ich lege die Regeln in OSM nic...
102023-01-23 13:58Langlaeufer
♦1,315
Wie auch dieterdreist dir schon nahe gelegt hat, hat dein Konflikt mit Herrn Ramm mit diesen Änderungen hier nichts zu tun. Diese Daten hast nicht du eingetragen. Zudem sind die Bahnanlagen vor Ort auch noch erkennbar.
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Published u...
112023-01-23 14:30Interteutones
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Ich habe mit Herr Ramm keinen Konflikt oder ähnliches. Ich habe nur versucht dir sachlich die Hintergründe dazulegen. Und nochmal: Wenn du zum Thema Fragen hast, wende dich bitte an Herr Ramm. Deine andauernden Unterstellungen hier sind nicht hilfreich.
122023-01-23 15:47Langlaeufer
♦1,315
Dann kann es sich ja nur um ein Missverständnis handeln. Nimm doch bitte mal ein Blick die Doku. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:railway%3Dabandoned. Es gilt das On the Ground Prinzip. Was vor Ort erkennbar ist darf in die Karte.
Evtl. Unklarheiten lassen sich im Forum klären....
132023-01-23 21:33Interteutones
♦43
Sorry, aber wie oft soll ich es denn noch schreiben !
Ich selbst habe eine abgebaute Bahnlinie eingezeichnet, bin dann wohl deswegen bei OSM von einem OSM-Kollegen gemeldet worden (Name wurde mir nicht genannt) und erhielt vom Hr. Fizzie41 eine einwöchige Sperrung. Auf meinen Protest hin hat H...
142023-01-24 09:24dieterdreist Es geht hier nicht um Bahnlinien die du eingezeichnet hast sondern um solche die du gelöscht hast und die jemand anderes eingezeichnet hatte, und von denen noch Spuren erkennbar sind. Diese Bahnlinien sind bereits wieder hergestellt, es gibt hierzu also keinen konkreten Handlungsbedarf. Was ich...
152023-01-24 11:33Interteutones
♦43
Guten Tag dieterdreist.
Danke für deinen Kommentar. Nachdem ich hier nun mitbekommen habe, was durch die Löschung einer nicht mehr existierenden Eisenbahnlinie ein Schriftverkehr bzw. Aufwand entstanden ist, bin ich wirklich am überlegen, ob ich künftig überhaupt noch was i...
129838666
by b-unicycling
@ 2022-12-07 22:59
12023-01-17 16:17dieterdreist Hi, this is clearly a mechanical edit, can you explain why you removed the site_type tag? Adding a new tag is one thing (although to do it in a mechanical edit it must follow the guidelines), but removing a tag is a completely different thing. How will this continue? A month has passed an nothing ha...
22023-01-18 00:00b-unicycling
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site_type is a deprecated key for archaeological sites: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:site_type
That's all I have to say.
32023-01-18 07:07dieterdreist That’s clearly not sufficient to remove thousands of it on a global scale…
102361734
by berjk
@ 2021-04-06 01:16
12023-01-12 09:37dieterdreist Hallo Berjk, ich habe bemerkt dass Du hier den Albstadt-node umgetaggt hast von "municipality" zu "town". Das ist das tagging für eine "echte" Stadt im Siedlungssinn. Bei Albstadt, wie Dir zweifellos bekannt sein dürfte, handelt es sich nicht um eine Siedlung ...
100496177
by judisa
@ 2021-03-05 13:51
12023-01-08 23:56dieterdreist Hi, ich habe bemerkt, dass Du die Fußgänger-Verbindung zwischen Konzenbergstr. und Weiherhaldenstr. als "private" eingetragen hast. Ich bin dort auch vor kurzem gegangen und hatte nicht den Eindruck, dass es sich um einen Privatweg handelt, und insbesondere nicht, dass der Durch...
13142207
by bema
@ 2012-09-17 11:31
12022-12-28 13:15dieterdreist Hallo, habe bemerkt dass Du den way 181440206 mit access=no eingetragen hast, aber der Weg ist Teil einer offiziellen Wanderroute. Erinnerst Du Dich evtl. noch? Ist zugegebenermaßen schon ganz schön lang her...

Gruß,
Martin
81625286
by Leopy_Periz
@ 2020-02-29 17:18
12022-12-16 18:10dieterdreist Buonasera Leopy Periz,
ho notato il tuo commento "riaperto sentiero ripulito da alberi caduti", ma non hai rimosso il tag obstacle=fallen_tree, suppongo una svista? Anche il tag "abandoned:highway=path" dovrebbe essere highway=path a questo punto. Ti segnalo che ho applicato que...
22022-12-27 20:02Leopy_Periz
♦2
Si, hai ragione. Grazie.
32022-12-27 23:53dieterdreist Grazie a te per la risposta!
130077995
by Nationales Naturmonument Weltenburger Enge
@ 2022-12-14 14:17
12022-12-26 10:48dieterdreist Anscheinend gibt es das NSG schon in OpenStreetMap https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/14909063

In diesem Fall bitte ggf. das bestehende Objekt anpassen aber kein Duplikat erzeugen. Oder gibt es dort zwei Schutzgebiete auf derselben Fläche?
22022-12-26 11:27SpaLeo
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Es gibt dort tatsächlich zwei (fast) Deckungsgleiche Gebiete. Das NSG und ein FFH-Gebiet mit dem gleichen Namen. Bei dem neu eingetragenen NSG wurde unter WDPA_ID:ref die Natura 2000 ID des FFH-Gebiets eingetragen, die gar nicht unter WDPA eingetragen gehört, da die ID der Natura 2000 Gebi...
32022-12-28 12:41Nationales Naturmonument Weltenburger Enge
♦1
Der aktuelle Stand ist der, dass hier eine Zusammenlegung vorheriger Naturschutzgebiete bzw. eines nationalen Naturmonuments stattgefunden hat. Die Untergliederung dieses Naturschutzgebiets ist etwas schwierig und hier mal grob zusammengefasst: Der ganze Bereich ist nun das NSG Weltenburger Enge, Hi...
122763990
by Fred73000
@ 2022-06-23 14:59
12022-06-27 09:18Claudio Tam
♦20
Ciao Fred73000!
Con type=boundary e type=multipolygon facevo riferimento ai 116 membri della relazione e non alla relazione. Per la relazione, type=collection mi sembra perfetto.
Ho inserito una proposta di tagging di tutti i 116 membri della relazione qui: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk...
22022-06-28 18:17Fred73000
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I think it is great to use tags that everybody uses (tags you can find in the wiki).

In my changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/122764434
I put for all type=boundary + boundary=place according to the wiki page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dplace

I don't ...
32022-06-28 18:49ivanbranco
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I post here since a conversation already started: I don't think this relation has much sense: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/14281406/history

Relations are not categories: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations_are_not_categories

Otherwise we could create relations such &qu...
42022-06-28 18:51ivanbranco
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If someone needs this data they can just do a query for boundaries inside the admin_level=8 Rome boundary.
52022-06-29 09:01Claudio Tam
♦20
ivanbranco that's not correct; there are a lot of non-adm "places", with a lot of different types. "distretti toponomastici" is a very specific and well defined non-adm type. There are other non-adm types such as "Zone O", "PDZ", "Aree urbane", ...
62022-07-02 19:52Fred73000
♦223
according to taginfo, there is a lot of different "places" https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/place#values = currently 867 values.

For me there is no problem to tag :
* type=boundary
* boundary = place
* place = zone O or PDZ or Aree urbane or what you want (but, if possible, use...
72022-12-12 18:27dieterdreist there are different place values, yes, but there are also different toponomastic divisions, you seem to have collected some of them in a relation. I agree with Ivan, these relations are heavy on data consumers and are just a collection of what can be mapped with tags, hence should be removed. Do not...
129937301
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-12-10 15:32
12022-12-12 05:11user_5359
♦19,415
Hello! Please have a look on https://www.osm.org/relation/7031274. What is the meaning of the tag [=00:15?
22022-12-12 10:23dieterdreist Hi, thank you for spotting this, I fixed it.

Have a nice day!
66388939
by Andrea from Rome
@ 2019-01-17 09:23
12022-12-11 22:28dieterdreist Ciao Andrea,

ho notato che hai messo "foot=no" alla via del Mare, ma non mi sembra ci sia un tale divieto presente (non dico sia raccomandabile utilizzare la strada, penso sia probabilmente una mancanza da parte dei risponsabili) e quindi non va messo. O forse mi sfugge un divieto?

S...
103467118
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2021-04-23 09:00
12022-12-10 00:46dieterdreist Ciao Michele, ho notato che hai spostato tutto una serie di punti di interesse a Piazza dei Navigatori dall'interno dell'edificio verso il bordo, penso sia peggio di prima, anche perché vorrei prima o poi aggiungere gli ingressi con i civici, e si sovraporrerebbe
39639342
by Dino Michelini
@ 2016-05-29 10:25
12022-12-02 23:45dieterdreist Ciao Dino,
ho notato che hai cambiato questa strada da service a track: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/60096293 ma non può essere un track perché porta ad un parcheggio un paese fantasma. I track portano solo a campi e boschi.
Buona mappatura,
Martin
50910622
by simone_girardelli
@ 2017-08-07 09:13
12022-11-18 11:27dieterdreist buongiorno Simone,

ti scrivo in merito al tag "website" (rendendomi conto che questo inserimento è stato fatto 5 anni fa, e forse non si usa più lo stesso template). Con il tag "website" si può indicare una pagina specifica sull'oggetto. Ti prego di n...
22022-11-23 10:26simone_girardelli
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Ciao Martin, scusa il ritardo, ho provato a cercare nelle varie mailing lists se ne avevo parlato, ma non riesco a trovare nulla, forse per limite mio, comunque il link contenuto nel tag, è vero fa riferimento al sito ufficiale, però tieni presente che la traccia da lì si pu&ogr...
32022-11-25 13:08dieterdreist Ciao Simone,
chiedo anch'io scusa della risposta ritardata. Hai ragione che nel wiki c'è il riferimento di inserire questa pagina web. Secondome, sarebbe da modificare o togliere, ma ne vorrei sentire altri pareri (scriverò a breve in Mailing list talk-it). Visto che si trov...
102406406
by alessandrocarmeli
@ 2021-04-06 12:06
12022-11-23 00:50dieterdreist Ciao Alessandro,

ho visto che hai aggiunto questo way: 926710380 ma credo che non serviva perché si sovrappone al landuse già mappato in maniera più dettagliata. Forse volevi mettere i tag "place"?

saluti,
Martin
125479853
by Baron d'Arignac
@ 2022-08-28 14:17
12022-11-21 14:18dieterdreist Hi Baron,

I have noticed that you removed a note:it tag from way 294972628 but I found that the data from SAT is still not in accordance with the OSM way, and you do not explain it in your changeset comment. Have you been there, and are there guideposts/markers for the 245A route along this way? ...
22022-11-21 16:39dieterdreist Hi Baron, it is me again, I somehow missed the end of your fixme, not it is clear and I will modify the relation accordingly, thank you.
113245158
by TWHB
@ 2021-11-01 16:29
12022-11-18 17:12dieterdreist Hey, a lot of lost history in this changeset. Did you really have to delete and redraw the situation in front of Santa Croce in Gerusalemme? The current state is broken by the way, with your redesigned representation no routing is possible any more.
113167109
by ASD Sabina Trekking
@ 2021-10-30 16:22
12022-11-13 01:27dieterdreist Salve,
ancora io, qui hai cancellato un anno fa due way con attributi ricchi: access \tpermissive
highway \tservice
source \tsurvey
surface \tcobblestone

e ancora oggi si trova un buco con un fantasmatico area:highway che non e mai stato proposto in alternativa ma solo in aggiunta agli highwa...
22022-11-13 22:19ASD Sabina Trekking
♦1
In origine tutto il tratto tra l'ingresso dell'ex Mattatoio e le Mura Aureliane era definito come Largo Dino Frisullo. Ho cercato di correggere il disegno della zona definendo bene i confini tra I e VIII Municipio, ho inserito la denominazione di Via della Pelanda, ho inserito la denominaz...
32022-11-14 09:45dieterdreist Buongiorno, grazie delle risposta, ho provveduto e riparato la connettività facendo undelete sugli highway. Ti prego di stare attento cosa carichi come modifica, quando qualcosa va storta la cosa migliore è non caricare le modifiche.

Saluti,
Martin
127949016
by ASD Sabina Trekking
@ 2022-10-23 09:36
12022-11-13 01:18dieterdreist meglio così non è un commento sufficente per cancellare qualcosa che esiste. Questo non avevi ridisegnato.
127948972
by ASD Sabina Trekking
@ 2022-10-23 09:34
12022-11-13 01:14dieterdreist Salve, questo è una curiosità, hai creato un railway=crossing tra un ponte e la ferrovia sotto?
127948842
by ASD Sabina Trekking
@ 2022-10-23 09:31
12022-11-13 01:11dieterdreist Ciao ASD Sabina Trekking,
ho notato che hai cancellato il ponte e poi ridisegnato con access-tags sbagliati. Se si cancella e ridisegna si perde tutto lo storico del way (non è più accessibile facilmente). In generale, "access=permit" significa che si vuole un permesso ma ot...
104441543
by Città di Palmi
@ 2021-05-10 10:09
12022-11-05 01:26dieterdreist Non mi sembra un'area residenziale, conosco il posto in parte, la scula tedesca non è residenziale, la strada non è residenziale, la biblioteca non è residenziale, l'albergo non è residenziale, direi che quasi tutta l'area non è residenziale, non esc...
77761688
by mfbehrens
@ 2019-11-30 16:19
12022-10-28 11:33dieterdreist Hallo Michael, ich habe gesehen, dass Du "network" der TMR von rwn auf nwn gesetzt hast (allerdings noch am selben Tag), und wollte nachfragen, ob rwn nicht passender wäre, eine "regionale" Route? Alternativ "iwn" weil Landesgrenzen überschritten werden, wobei...
22022-10-28 12:39mfbehrens
♦19
Hi Martin,
tatsächlich sind das die Probleme von diesem Tag. Du kannst es gerne wieder in rwn ändern.
Gruß Michael
32022-10-28 13:03dieterdreist-CAI
♦33
so bold will ich da momentan nicht sein, und das alleine entscheiden, vielleicht hängen “die Schweizer” ja an diesem tag hatte ich mir gedacht, oder der CAI in Italien, aber wenn du auch zu rwn tendierst (habe ich das richtig verstanden?) wäre das ja schonmal ein Datenpunkt. Da...
42090192
by mcheckimport
@ 2016-09-12 01:38
12022-10-26 12:29dieterdreist Ciao Mcheck,
ho notato che in questo changeset hai inserito per esempio landuse=residential in maniera molto strana (e credo sbagliata), su tutto un villaggio a prescindere del uso del suolo, e comprendendo strade in maniera apposita (le strade non sono mai landuse=residential), ad esempio qui: way...
127672339
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-17 13:06
12022-10-23 15:33Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. Parte del sentiero 6 era già stata inserita nella relazione 2780436. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-25 09:46dieterdreist Ciao, giusto, ho ora unificato le due relazioni e tolto il duplicato, grazie!
126930632
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-03 11:02
12022-10-23 15:26Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. Il sentiero 12 era già presente nella relazione 14649773. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-25 09:39dieterdreist hai ragione, hanno dati formalmente diversi (from, to), ma una era interamente contenuta nell'altra e con cai_scale uguale non ha senso avere un duplicato. Ho rimosso la relazione contenuta. Grazie, Martin
125901615
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-09-07 13:06
12022-10-23 15:16Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. L'osmc:symbol del sentiero 9A è errato. Il name è errato perché non deve contenere le località di arrivo e partenza (per quello ci sono i tag from e to). Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 13:55dieterdreist giusto, risolto i problemi, grazie, Martin
127844024
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-20 15:07
12022-10-23 15:14Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. L'osmc:symbol del sentiero "6 -9" è errato. Ciao, Andrea PS Ma il ref è corretto?
22022-10-24 13:52dieterdreist Questo è da indagare e risolvere, i ref composti anche a me sembrano strani. Per questo il simbolo è un placeholder che indica un eventuale problema. È un caso che sto monitorando. Grazie, Martin
32022-10-24 15:38Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Non sarebbe meglio mettere un fixme? Ciao, Andrea
126740108
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-09-28 12:59
12022-10-23 15:13Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. L'osmc:symbol del sentiero 23 è errato. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 13:52dieterdreist grazie, risolto. Ciao, Martin
127886758
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-21 14:12
12022-10-23 15:13Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. L'osmc:symbol del sentiero "13 - 4" è errato. Ciao, Andrea PS Ma il ref è corretto?
22022-10-24 13:50dieterdreist Questo è da indagare e risolvere, i ref composti anche a me sembrano strani. Per questo il simbolo è un placeholder che indica un eventuale problema. È un caso che sto monitorando. Grazie, Martin
127887631
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-21 14:22
12022-10-23 15:12Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. L'osmc:symbol del sentiero "15 - 4G - 6A" è errato. Ciao, Andrea PS Ma il ref è corretto?
22022-10-24 13:49dieterdreist Questo è da indagare e risolvere, i ref composti anche a me sembrano strani. Per questo il simbolo è un placeholder che indica un eventuale problema. È un caso che sto monitorando. Grazie, Martin
127885265
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-21 13:49
12022-10-23 15:11Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. L'osmc:symbol del sentiero "2- 5" è errato. Ciao, Andrea PS Ma il ref è corretto?
22022-10-24 13:48dieterdreist Questo è da indagare e risolvere, i ref composti anche a me sembrano strani. Per questo il simbolo è un placeholder che indica un eventuale problema. È un caso che sto monitorando. Grazie, Martin
126688080
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-09-27 09:01
12022-10-23 15:10Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. L'osmc:symbol del sentiero 4G è errato. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 13:47dieterdreist grazie, ho risolto. Ciao, Martin
126516648
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-09-22 18:08
12022-10-23 15:10Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. L'osmc:symbol del sentiero 11 è errato. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 13:45dieterdreist grazie, risolto. Ciao, Martin
127675637
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-17 14:13
12022-10-23 15:10Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. L'osmc:symbol del sentiero 4 è errato. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 13:44dieterdreist grazie, ho risolto. Ciao, Martin
127892853
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-21 16:19
12022-10-23 15:07Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. L'osmc:symbol del sentiero 4A è errato. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 13:42dieterdreist grazie, risolto. Saluti, Martin
126979905
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-04 08:20
12022-10-23 14:58Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. Il sentiero 18 è senza cai_scale. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 13:39dieterdreist vedi l'altra risposta, non ho il dato, se mi puoi procurare il cai_scale, metti lo :)
grazie,
Martin
126943947
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-03 15:25
12022-10-23 14:55Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. La relazione 12368042 sembra un duplicato della 3157450. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 13:36dieterdreist è vero, per il momento non ho guardato ancora ne una ne l'altra (non fanno parte del lwn), ma ci starò attento a risolvere fra poco quando guardo le rwn. Grazie, Martin
126380250
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-09-19 15:08
12022-10-23 14:51Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. Il sentiero 25A è senza cai_scale. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 13:30dieterdreist è vero, ma in questo caso l'informazione non era disponibile. Conosci tu il cai_scale giusto? Sarebbe utile metterlo. Saluti, Martin
126939478
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-03 13:43
12022-10-23 14:42Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. Il sentiero 9 era già stato parzialmente inserito nella relazione 6491115. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 13:26dieterdreist grazie, ho unificato i due percorsi e tolto il duplicato. Ciao, Martin
126938351
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-03 13:16
12022-10-22 09:59Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. L'osmc:symbol del sentiero 35 è sbagliato. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-23 14:40Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. Il sentiero 4 era già presente nella relazione 9927937. Ciao, Andrea
32022-10-24 13:18dieterdreist il sentiero 35 non l'ho modificato o controllato, suppongo la versione nuova è dovuto al split di un membro. In ogni caso ho riparato il simbolo.
Invece per il sentiero 4 vale la stessa cosa scritto in precendenza (operator su relazione parziale impedisce il merge per il momento, da ri...
42022-10-24 16:12Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Non ho capito il discorso sul sentiero 4. Non è tutto all'interno del comune di Valtournenche? Ciao, Andrea
52022-10-24 17:43dieterdreist-CAI
♦33
non so se gestiscono tutto il sentiero. Suggerisci che presumo di sì, se non va oltre i confini communali? Ciao, Martin
126755447
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-09-28 20:46
12022-10-23 14:36Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. C'è qualcosa di sbagliato nel sentiero 10A. Dal tagging, dovrebbe terminare al Passage du Grand Neyron, invece termina a Levionaz, come la relazione 12794047. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 13:00dieterdreist non è così, la 14602150 inizia a Levionaz ed è come descritto, invece il problema che vedo è la 12794047 (che va nell'altro verso) ha un cai_scale di EE mentre la versione più piccola e completamente contenuta ha cai_scale=EEA. Va indagato e risolto.

grazie...
126186251
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-09-14 14:53
12022-10-23 13:56Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. Il sentiero 1 era già presente nella relazione 2235474. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 12:50dieterdreist hai ragione, ho unificato i due sentieri e le loro informazioni, grazie!
127876972
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-21 11:04
12022-10-23 13:54Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. Il sentiero 13D era già presente nella relazione 6580908 (però fino al Pointe de la Traversière). Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 12:40dieterdreist sì, questo ricade nei casi da risolvere, non potevo fare il merge per via del cai_scale sconosciuto della versione più lunga. Per sicurezza non ho messo il cai_scale su questa parte. Sarà comunque risolto a breve. Grazie per la segnalazione, Martin
126456392
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-09-21 09:50
12022-10-23 13:46Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. Il sentiero 11C era già parzialmente presente nella relazione 6584086. Ciao, Amdrea
22022-10-24 12:24dieterdreist sì, questo è un caso particolare perché sulla relazione 6584086 c'è un operator che non sapevo se si estendesse su tutto il sentiero o solo su una parte. È un caso che ho in una lista di problemi da risolvere. Io non sono neanche sicuro se "operator"...
32022-10-24 12:26Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. Che io sappia in Valle d'Aosta i sentieri sono gestiti dai comuni. Ciao, Andrea
42022-10-24 12:33dieterdreist Ho scritto all'autore dell'altra relazione per capire se forse tutto il sentiero è gestito da un unico gestore. In generale non sono molto convinto dell'idea di dover spezzare sentieri locali perché attraversono il confine di un comune. Ciao, Martin
42134289
by Gian Mario Navillod
@ 2016-09-13 19:35
12022-10-24 12:30dieterdreist Ciao Gian Mario Navillod, ho notato che hai inserito il sentiero 11C con un tag "operator=Comune di Nus;Saint-Barthélemy", e vorrei chiedere se per caso sapessi se il comune fa manutenzione della segnaletica, oppure del sentiero fisico (percorsi)? E se forse questo operator si esten...
127001754
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-04 15:25
12022-10-22 16:58Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. Il sentiero 8 era già presente (in parte) nella relazione 11519295. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 12:13dieterdreist è giusto anche questo (una piccola parte in mezzo soltanto, ma c'era), ho unificato le relazioni, grazie.
127783413
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-19 13:24
12022-10-22 16:50Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. In questo changeset è stato inserito il sentiero 3B nella relazione 14711575 ma questo era già parzialmente inserito nella relazione 7487519. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 12:06dieterdreist hai ragione, ho fatto un merge e tolto la relation completa ma nuova, grazie.
127783740
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-19 13:31
12022-10-22 16:47Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. La relazione 14711604 è un duplicato della 4156821. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 11:58dieterdreist hai ragione, ho unificato i sentieri e tolto il duplicato, grazie!
126273645
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-09-16 17:55
12022-10-22 09:59Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. L'osmc:symbol del sentiero 11 è sbagliato. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 11:48dieterdreist grazie, corretto. Questo purtroppo era già sfuggito da 3 anni agli occhi dei mappatori, ottimo che abbiamo risolto con il tuo aiuto.
127784329
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-19 13:43
12022-10-22 09:55Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. La relazione 14711641 è un duplicato della 13878204. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 11:41dieterdreist sì, questo per ora risolto (come anche comunicato in mail parallelo).
127786638
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-19 14:35
12022-10-22 09:04Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. La relazione 14711846 sembra un duplicato della 14432391. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 11:38dieterdreist sì, questo è un problema monitorato che risolveremmo a breve con aiuto di conoscenza locale del gestore.
Grazie comunque della segnalazione
127784960
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-19 13:56
12022-10-22 08:59Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. La relazione 14711705 è duplicata della 13878205. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 11:36dieterdreist grazie, ho risolto,

ciao,
Martin
127413699
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-12 12:40
12022-10-22 08:54Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. La relazione 14687539 è duplicata della 12754206. Inoltre, l'osmc:symbol è errato. Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 11:30dieterdreist grazie, ho risolto
127434433
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-10-12 20:16
12022-10-22 08:48Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. Questo (e altri) percorsi circolari non dovrebbero avere il tag roundtrip=yes? Ciao, Andrea
22022-10-24 11:24dieterdreist Inizialmente avevo dubbi sul tag "roundtrip" perché il significato viene contestato, ma poi ho deciso di mettere il tag nonostante perché è comunque il metodo attualmente usato (in inglese la parola roundtrip significa "andata e ritorno" e non significa "...
32022-10-24 11:31Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. Cambio oculista. Intendevo proprio metterlo, non ho visto il tag. Sorry. Ciao, Andrea
125892477
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-09-07 09:33
12022-10-23 15:16Andrea Musuruane
♦1,419
Ciao. L'osmc:symbol del sentiero "6 -7" è errato. Ciao, Andrea PS Ma il ref è corretto?
22022-10-23 16:32dieterdreist Questi sono dei casi che andranno ritoccato una ulteriore volta, sono da riverificare sul campo se non si dovesse riuscire a chiarire il problema.
123488962
by ross-map
@ 2022-07-11 19:23
12022-10-21 10:15dieterdreist Ciao, ho notato che hai riclassificato alcuni track in path, ma dalle foto aerei e dello storico (dal 2011) sembrano sempre stati track. È cambiata la situazione?
Saluti,
Martin
22022-10-21 10:17dieterdreist Per dire, a Provence non si arriva più con un fuori strada?
32022-10-21 10:48ross-map
♦6
Ciao Martin, ho controllato quello che mi hai segnalato, e vedo che effettivamente la way che porta a Provence da Pielo è un path. Dopo essere stato un week end in zona, avevo insertito con una relazione il sentiero 4A, ma probabilmente poi innavertitamente ho cambiato anche la relazione del...
42022-10-21 11:52dieterdreist Ciao Ross, correggo volentieri, ma credo ci sia un typo e volevi scrivere si tratta di un "track", giusto?
saluti e buona giornata a te,
Martin
52022-10-21 11:58ross-map
♦6
ovviamente volevo scrivere track
62022-10-21 15:26dieterdreist grazie, messo,

buona mappatura,
Martin
123984387
by AlCeRoma
@ 2022-07-23 17:19
12022-10-17 18:04dieterdreist Ciao, ho notato che hai dato il nome magazzini generali alla scuola superiore dei VVF, era intenzionale? way 96646927

saluti
Martin
22022-10-18 07:24AlCeRoma
♦9
è il nome che compare sulla facciata dell'edificio
32022-10-18 07:55dieterdreist hai ragione, ma forse non è comunque il nome di questo edificio (suppongo senza saperne niente che si riferisca ad un uso pregresso di tutta l’area? Forse old_name? Senza sapere niente di più, si potrebbe mettere magazzini generali come tag “inscription” dell’ed...
42022-10-18 08:48AlCeRoma
♦9
Ovviamente lì non ci sono più i magazzini generali della dogana. old_name può andare bene
52022-10-18 10:18dieterdreist sì, ma old_name dove? Sull’edificio sarebbe riferito al edificio, mentre probabilmente andrebbe su tutto il sito, però poi magazzini generali non è il vecchio nome della scuola superiore dei vigili del fuoco (tag che sta sull’area).
(al proposito, c’è ...
62022-10-18 14:31AlCeRoma
♦9
volendo si può mettere all'intera area specificando che in passato il sito aveva un altro uso (c'è un tag specifico che però non ricordo).
No, non c'è una stazione dei vigili all'interno.
72022-10-18 15:26dieterdreist sì, questo lo conosco ed avevo pensato anch’io che sarebbe una ipotesi, creare una area per quello che era, il concetto lo trovi nel wiki sotto “lifecycle prefix”, potrebbe essere “was:landuse=industrial” (forse esiste qualcosa di meglio per le aree doganali, non...
82022-10-19 07:31AlCeRoma
♦9
Eviterei di creare una nuova area solo per mettere dati storici. Meglio old_name o inscription sull'edificio già presente.
92022-10-19 07:50dieterdreist perfetto, d’accordo con te.
12879129
by nuvolabianca
@ 2012-08-27 13:14
12022-10-17 09:42dieterdreist Ciao Nuvolabianca,
ho qualche dubbio sulla way 178153275, che ora è inserito come access=private, ma probabilmente quello che si intende è vehicle=forestry, o motor_vehicle=forestry. Così come attualmente è inserito significa che non si può legalmente camminare su...
126735853
by dieterdreist-CAI
@ 2022-09-28 11:15
12022-10-14 14:23matteo564
♦16
Buongiorno, sarebbero graditi commenti ai changeset più specifici e informativi, grazie e buon lavoro.
22022-10-14 16:10dieterdreist grazie, capisco che possono sembrare quasi identici, ma in realtà descrivono proprio quello che faccio: inserisco itinerari (sentieri) nella Regione Valle D'Aosta. Il numero del sentiero è alla fine del commento. Talvolta faccio edit "intorno al sentiero" che sono comunq...
32022-10-14 16:28matteo564
♦16
Va benissimo, non avevo notato (cosa che può sfuggire anche ad altri), quindi consiglierei proprio per questo di differenziarli e magari specificare se vengono inseriti altri elementi, se vengono fatte correzioni, collegamenti, modifiche, aggiunte, se non c'è niente di particolare...
56933177
by Enzo de Roma
@ 2018-03-06 12:09
12022-10-07 20:24dieterdreist appena visto che in questo changeset è stato cancellato la via d’accesso agli uffi del comune, way 546596234

Perché?
22022-10-07 20:29dieterdreist puro vandalismo, vergogna ti di vandalizzare un bene di tutti.
36006022
by nuvolabianca
@ 2015-12-17 10:21
12022-10-06 10:46dieterdreist Buongiorno Nuvolabianca,

ho notato che hai segnato il way 61009814 come access=private, ma mi sembra dai dati delle Regione Valle D'Aosta ci passi il sentiero 3. Forse ti riccordi ancora?

Grazie,
Martin
41924615
by Gian Mario Navillod
@ 2016-09-05 08:34
12022-10-04 11:34dieterdreist buongiorno Gian Mario Navillod,

ho notato che hai messo delle strade ad "access=private", per esempio way 340494099
Guardando la situazione, sembra ci passi un sentiero escursionistico gestito dalla Regione. Forse invece di access=private si dovrebbe taggare motor_vehicle=private?
Gen...
22022-10-04 19:50Gian Mario Navillod
♦5
Buongiorno Martin, appena sopra il parcheggio c'è un cartello di divieto di transito con la scritta "strada privata a fondo cieco divieto di transito". Se mi sono sbagliato mi "corrigerai" ;-) Buon mapping!
32022-10-04 21:55dieterdreist Ciao Gian Mario, grazie per la risposta, quindi mi confermi che il divieto di transito si applica anche ai pedoni. Apposto, non bisogna fare nulla, access=private ci sta in questo caso. Ho cambiato la classe della strada in "service", visto che si tratta di una strada di accesso, o diresti...
126925539
by Friendly_Ghost
@ 2022-10-03 09:17
12022-10-03 23:09dieterdreist Hi, this is an automated edit but I don’t find documentation here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Automated_edits_log

Have you discussed your plans and sought community approval for this edit?

Cheers
Martin
22022-10-04 08:07Friendly_Ghost
♦636
This isn't very automated. I checked all the tags to verify if they indeed refer to Wikimedia Commons.
32022-10-04 17:02dieterdreist ok. but you are removing tags. E.g. I added all the images as "image" and now I do not find them anymore, because you not only added the wikimedia_commons tag, you also removed the "image" tag.
42022-10-04 17:03dieterdreist did you have a look at the pictures? Have you seen a fountain picture or two? ;-)
52022-10-04 18:49Friendly_Ghost
♦636
"you are removing tags"

Not at all, I'm just retagging them under the key that's specifically intended for Wikimedia Commons images. No information is lost.

"now I do not find them anymore"

Not in the image=* key, no, but you will find them under wikimedia_comm...
62022-10-04 18:50Friendly_Ghost
♦636
I hope that answers your concerns and questions well enough :)
72022-10-04 19:53dieterdreist You confirm that you are removing tags and break other people’s apps without prior notification or timeline or respecting the rules for such large scale retagging, so clearly I am not happy having it discovered. On the other hand, personally it doesn’t matter much to me, because some tim...
82022-10-04 20:18Friendly_Ghost
♦636
"you are removing tags"

No, I retag it to the key that we have for Wikimedia Commons images. I thought I mentioned this already.

"break other people’s apps"

I'm not responsible for other people's apps, only for the map data in my edits. I haven't rem...
92022-10-04 21:11dieterdreist "No, I retag it to the key that we have for Wikimedia Commons images. I thought I mentioned this already."

you are removing tags and adding different tags. That's what it looks like. You can pretend you are "transforming" tags, but what you actually do is removing tags an...
102022-10-04 21:14dieterdreist anyway, while you should try to respect the guidelines, I think this particular edit has its merit, the "file:"-URLs in the image tag, where everybody expects an http-link, had their problems. Thank you for performing it and discussing about it.
112022-10-04 23:59Friendly_Ghost
♦636
"what you actually do is removing tags and adding the values with a different key."

This is true.

"you may be responsible for breaking them, by performing huge edits which might force the devs of other software to add code in order to maintain the status quo"

It's c...
70411992
by erikvasco
@ 2019-05-19 14:22
12022-10-04 08:33dieterdreist Buongiorno Erik,

ho notato che hai inserito tanti "turn restrictions" che non sono da mappare perché sono già impliciti dalla geometria (senso unico delle strade). In sostanza non mappiamo una restrizione per ogni cartello che si trova, ma soltanto i punti dove la restrizi...
51296467
by alequey
@ 2017-08-21 09:17
12022-09-29 16:52dieterdreist Ciao Alequey,
ho notato che hai cambiato la sterrata qui: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/141079021
da track in path, ma dalle foto aerei sembra proprio un track. Mi puoi confermare che la modifica in path è stata coscientemente e non per sbaglio?

Grazie,
Martin
22022-09-29 17:18alequey
♦1
Si, ero in dubbio se mettere track con limitazioni d'accesso, poichè è una poderale ad uso agricolo privato, ma è anche indicata come sentiero del parco. Indicarla come track forse trae in inganno e qualcuno ci si avventura. Anche se è parecchio che non ci passo...
32022-09-29 17:19alequey
♦1
intendevo ci si avventura con i mezzi
42022-09-29 17:20alequey
♦1
Se vuoi puoi tranquillamente modificarlo, grazie
52022-09-29 20:08dieterdreist ah ok, grazie della veloce risposta, allora ci metto un divieto per mezzi motorizzati ad eccezione di uso agricolo?
Perché la distinzione tra path e track è la larghezza. I sentieri possono anche essere track (talvolta hanno anche tratti su strada).
62022-09-30 09:47dieterdreist messo, grazie per il tuo aiuto.

saluti,
Martin
72022-09-30 10:13alequey
♦1
prego buon lavoro
93803846
by Antanicus
@ 2020-11-09 14:08
12022-09-24 08:50dieterdreist ciao, ho notato che hai aggiunto il tag crossing=zebra agli incroci con semafori, il tag corretto è crossing=traffic_signals

saluti
Martin
126417850
by GBAB
@ 2022-09-20 11:10
12022-09-21 21:34dieterdreist did you discuss this mechanical edit? Your similar edits in Italy have already been reverted by the data working group, please do not remove "crossing" tags from objects.
22022-09-21 21:37dieterdreist FWIW, crossing is still the standard tag to describe crossing typology, crossing_ref is not even a sixth: http://taghistory.raifer.tech/#***/crossing/&***/crossing_ref/
Please revert your undicussed mass edits and respect the guidelines for such edits.
32022-09-23 07:08GBAB
♦101
Lieber dieterdreist,

please look also at this graph:
http://taghistory.raifer.tech/#***/crossing/zebra&***/crossing_ref/zebra

* * * * *

As far as I can see, for a pedestrian crossing you can use both crossing= and crossing_ref= tags for its attributes.

crossing= refers to the type o...
42022-09-23 07:52dieterdreist Please find my answer on one of the other offending changesets: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126418481
126418481
by GBAB
@ 2022-09-20 11:26
12022-09-21 13:00dieterdreist undiscussed automatic edit? Didn’t have a thorough view yet, but apparently removed crossing tags
22022-09-21 13:56GBAB
♦101
I have simply changed crossing=zebra to crossing_ref=zebra. Nothing was removed.
32022-09-21 17:48Dino Michelini
♦321
Da un controllo rapido mi mi sembra che hai fatto molti di più di quello che scrivi...
42022-09-21 17:57GBAB
♦101
Direi di no, almeno non con intenzione. Spero che non abbia rotto nessuna relazione importante o cose del genere…
52022-09-21 18:03Dino Michelini
♦321
Vedi qui https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-change-viz?c=126418481#6/42.306/12.675
62022-09-21 18:04Dino Michelini
♦321
e anche ui https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-edits-tile/#13/41.9222/12.3550
72022-09-22 03:49woodpeck_repair
♦33,903
This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 126485899, 126467266, 126475461, 126480683, 126483951 where the changeset comment is: revert undiscussed mass edit of zebra crossings in Italy
82022-09-23 06:52GBAB
♦101
Carissimo Dino,
anche cosi' mantengo la mia posizione che ho cambiato solo i pedestrian crossings. Se i loro puntini fanno parte di strade, allora puo' sembrare che anche la strada stessa sia stata modificata.
92022-09-23 07:09GBAB
♦101
Lieber dieterdreist, carissimo Dino,

please look also at this graph:
http://taghistory.raifer.tech/#***/crossing/zebra&***/crossing_ref/zebra

* * * * *

As far as I can see, for a pedestrian crossing you can use both crossing= and crossing_ref= tags for its attributes.

crossing= refe...
102022-09-23 07:44dieterdreist Dear GBAB, what you call "changing the tag crossing to crossing_ref", effectively means removing the crossing tag. There is no reason to do this, you can add crossing_ref tags to crossings without removing the "crossing" tag.
Generally, all automated edits have to follow the rul...
112022-09-23 07:49dieterdreist Regarding to usage chronology, I invite you to have a look at "crossing": https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/crossing#chronology
(only organic growth) and on
"crossing_ref", which clearly shows automated tagging operations at least twice (despite none of them following the...
126418461
by GBAB
@ 2022-09-20 11:25
12022-09-21 13:44dieterdreist undiscussed massedit
22022-09-22 03:49woodpeck_repair
♦33,903
This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 126485899, 126467266, 126475461, 126480683, 126483951 where the changeset comment is: revert undiscussed mass edit of zebra crossings in Italy
126418471
by GBAB
@ 2022-09-20 11:26
12022-09-21 13:44dieterdreist undiscussed mass edit
22022-09-22 03:49woodpeck_repair
♦33,903
This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 126485899, 126467266, 126475461, 126480683, 126483951 where the changeset comment is: revert undiscussed mass edit of zebra crossings in Italy
125299062
by luca_sere
@ 2022-08-24 06:23
12022-09-16 08:29dieterdreist Hi Luca, I just noticed you added a hiking trail based on the geoportal, but you totally missed to integrate it with the existing data. At some place, the path (IMHO it could be a track, based on the shape and amount of traffic on Strava) you added, crosses an existing track without connection (your...
22022-09-16 08:52dieterdreist Altre due cose: le highway non dovrebbero praticamente mai essere conesse con i landuse (foreste ecc.) e tantomeno con i confini amministrativi. Non devi fissare i problemi di questo edit perché l'ho già fatto (ti scrivo solo per spiegare cosa ho notato).
Un altro tema ancora son...
101625564
by Jack Bertone
@ 2021-03-24 08:07
12022-09-15 08:28dieterdreist In questo changeset è stato introdotto la way 921603750 con la classe "living_street", lo trovo improbabile, forse si tratta di una residential? service=alley? footway? "layer=-1" da solo non è sufficiente, sarebbero da indicare le situazioni dove si passa sotto una...
126031160
by dieterdreist
@ 2022-09-10 22:04
12022-09-11 17:04mariotomo
♦1,896
hi Dieter … had you considered "mapwithAI"?
https://mapwith.ai/rapid#background=Maxar-Premium&datasets=fbRoads,msBuildings&disable_features=boundaries&map=18.36/8.36128/-80.89997&offset=0,3.12
22022-09-11 19:24dieterdreist for the initial input of forests and buildings it would be a more effective approach, I just wanted to look around…
116239084
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2022-01-17 06:36
12022-09-03 13:01dieterdreist Ciao Michele, ho visto che hai inserito start date 1999 per il ristorante Secchio e Olivaro 2 a Garbatella, ma il posto è stato creato molto dopo, nel 1999 non c’erano lì, c’era un’altro ristorante “L’Incontro”.
99844058
by ivanbranco
@ 2021-02-23 17:13
12022-08-31 10:49dieterdreist Ciao Ivan, ho notato che hai aggiunto "brand:wikipedia" con valore "en:Lidl" al Lidl di Ovada, ma non mi risulta tratti di questo Lidl, perché l'articolo tratta di "Lidl Stiftung & Co. KG". Ha veramente senso aggiungere un riferimento del brand a wikiped...
22022-08-31 11:02ivanbranco
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Ciao Martin, non ho capito. Anche il Wikidata lo chiama "Lidl Stiftung & Co. KG". nel value di P1448. In tutto il database vengono ripetuti i tag wikidata e wikipedia, es. Ovada stessa è "wikidata=Q17629+wikipedia=it:Ovada"
32022-08-31 15:10dieterdreist https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/256020379
l‘operator è Lidl Italia s.r.l. a socio unico
L’ho verificato. Forse la GmbH & Co. KG è quel „socio unico“?
42022-08-31 15:20dieterdreist Scusa, non è GmbH, è „Stiftung & Co. KG“, mi sembra che controllino completamente la Srl., quindi a posto. Sarebbe forse meglio linkare a it:Lidl perché menzionano la Lidl Srl.
52022-08-31 15:24dieterdreist in realtà, mentre per l’oggetto penso potrebbe avere senso linkare (o no, secondo la situazione) wikipedia e wikidata, per le proprietà come “brand” mi basterebbero 2, “brand” e “brand:wikidata”
124905315
by dieterdreist
@ 2022-08-14 22:14
12022-08-15 05:42PT-53
♦3,642
Hallo dieterdreist,
findest Du das wirklich sinnvoll 2 "Betriebe" auf einen Gebäudeumriß zu legen. Wer wertet das korrekt aus?
Grüße
22022-08-15 05:45PT-53
♦3,642
PS:
Gibt es da wirklich 2 Brauereien:
- https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/180247664/history
- https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1086295934/history
?
32022-08-15 06:13dieterdreist wo steht dass es dort 2 Brauereien gibt? Eins ist eine Brauereigaststätte, das andere eine Brauerei. Letztere war bisher überhaupt nicht getaggt (building=yes in einem residential landuse)
42022-08-15 07:34PT-53
♦3,642
Einmal Brauerei am Gebäudeumriß und einmal Brauerei an der Fläche gibt 2 Brauereien, oder?
52022-08-16 00:40dieterdreist ja, je nachdem welche Bedeutung man dem craft=brewery und microbrewery=yes genau zuspricht könnte es sich derzeit um 2 Brauereien handeln, was schlecht wäre. Eigentlich hätte ich wohl craft=brewer setzen müssen und nicht brewery?
62022-08-18 16:34PT-53
♦3,642
Hallo dieterdreist,
bereingst Du das noch mit den 2 Brauerei-Einträgen? Es gilt doch die OSM-Regel ein Objekt in der realen Welt = ich ein OSM-Objekt, oder?

Ich weiß ja, daß Du bezüglich Landuse sehr kleinlich bist. Aber einfach ein landuse=industrial über ein landuse...
72022-08-18 17:58dieterdreist sorry, war zuletzt immer unterwegs, das mit der Brauerei mache ich gleich, aber am landuse mache ich mobil nicht rum, wenn das “richtig” sein soll dass die ganze Fläche residential landuse sei, dann stört ein überlappendes industrial auch nicht weiter, das müsste jema...
82022-08-18 18:12PT-53
♦3,642
Sorry,
aber so penibel wie Du Dich sonst gibst, ist da mit den überlappenden Landuse für mich nicht akzebtal. Aber wir können das ja gerne im OSM-Forum weiter diskutieren!
92022-08-18 18:19dieterdreist ja gern. Habe den craft jetzt in brewer umgewandelt, die Gaststätte ist keine Brauerei, aber es arbeitet ein Brauer dort. microbrewery ist wohl keine Brauerei sondern ein Attribut von Gaststätten und Pubs dass dort in kleinen Mengen selbstgebrautes Bier angeboten wird, das habe ich gelasse...
102022-08-19 06:41PT-53
♦3,642
Auszug aus dem Wiki DE:Tag:craft=brewery:
>>Eine handwerkliche Brauerei ist ein kleiner, unabhängiger Betrieb, der Bier nach traditionellen Methoden herstellt. <<
Da steht nichts von einem Brauer / Braumeister sonder es wird von einer Handwerks-Brauerei gesprochen!
Bei craft ge...
112022-08-19 17:16dieterdreist was du zitierst ist craft=brewery, das habe ich ja geändert am Restaurant in craft=brewer, was auch dem ursprünglichen Konzept des tags entspricht (Berufe bzw. Arbeitsstätten eines Handwerkers zu beschreiben). Es gibt sicherlich größere Brauereien als Blank’s, fü...
122022-08-20 06:00PT-53
♦3,642
oK, du hast am Gaststätten-Gebäude das von brewery auf brewer geändert. Aber ist es üblich den Beruf eines Gastwirtes / Restaurantbesitzers einzutragen. Das ist mir absolut neu. Und wer ist eigentlich Leiter der Gaststätte. Nach meinem Wissen ist das Frau Blank.

Ob das ei...
132022-08-24 11:22dieterdreist Mikrobrauerei ist nicht klar definiert, könnte hier passen oder nicht. Brauereigasthof ist mit craft=brewer angedeutet, allerdings fehlt der Hotelanteil bisher glaube ich noch.
„Fabrik“ ist auch nicht unbedingt ein Riesending, Produktionsstätten gibt es auch kleinere, man_made...
142022-08-24 13:17PT-53
♦3,642
Du drehst - mal wieder - alles so hin, wie es Dir paßt! Super.
Weitere Diskusion sinnlos.
152022-08-24 14:59PT-53
♦3,642
Klarstellung:
Weitere Diskussionen - mit Dir - sinnlos!
162022-08-24 15:53dieterdreist ich versuche es so hinzudrehen, dass es für alle passt. Wo siehst du derzeit noch ein Problem?
63481390
by dieterdreist
@ 2018-10-13 10:00
12022-08-08 10:04Valerio_Bozzolan
♦26
Ciao @dieterdreist
Ho notato questa attività commerciale "Naimul Travles" ma forse c'è un refuso e si intendeva "Naimul Travels". Cosa ne pensi?
Scusa il disturbo ciaao :)
22022-08-24 10:19dieterdreist sembrerebbe un refuso, ma ho trovato la stessa dicitura anche più volte in rete, quindi suppongo si siano registrati/stanno operando con un typo nel nome ;-)
32022-08-24 10:21dieterdreist in realtà "la rete" probabilmente ha copiato da noi, quindi non vale come conferma. Non so neanche se esiste ancora questo posto. Per ora non cambio niente, ma se mi ricordo cerco di farci caso la prossima volta che ci passo.
42022-08-24 10:22Valerio_Bozzolan
♦26
Oppure... hai sgamato gente che fa import da OSM! :D
52022-08-24 10:28dieterdreist no, dicevano proprio "dati da OpenStreetMap"
90480312
by Agriturismo La Valle dei Castagni
@ 2020-09-06 13:24
12021-06-30 15:27alessandrocarmeli
♦236
come mai rimuovere?
22021-07-03 06:58Agriturismo La Valle dei Castagni
♦2
Ciò che è stato pubblicato sul sitoweb della Open Street Map Foundation è un abuso su nostra proprietà privata. La proprietà privata è tutelata dalla legge italiana e dalla pubblicità immobiliare, l'area è segnalata con apposita segnaletic...
32021-07-03 10:06alessandrocarmeli
♦236
Ciò scritto non vuol dire assolutamente niente. Se voi guardate streetwiew passa vicino a voi e ci sono anche immagini satellitari.
42021-07-03 10:28Agriturismo La Valle dei Castagni
♦2
ATTENZIONE, ULTIMO AVVERTIMENTO !

QUESTA È UNA DELLE NOSTRE PROPRIETÀ PRIVATE ED E’ VIETATO L’INGRESSO !
I VOSTRI TRACCIATI SULLA NOSTRA PROPRIETÀ LEDONO I NOSTRI DIRITTI E PORTATO A DANNI E VANDALISMI MOLTO CONSISTENTI. CHIUNQUE VOGLIA ACCAMPARE QUALSIASI DIRIT...
52021-07-03 10:57alessandrocarmeli
♦236
ciò non vuol dire assolutamente niente. I tag di OSM fanno si che indichino i vari tipi di accesso (privato, finchè il proprietario lo concede, no causa frana...).
Non so, inoltre cosa centrano i vandalismi con openstreetmap. Se intendete che la gente vi entra in proprietà cau...
62021-07-03 11:29Agriturismo La Valle dei Castagni
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I inform you that your answers will also be sent to the legal office and Data Working Group of the Open Street Map Foundation located in Cambridge (UK). For these reasons, comments will now be in English only. Arrivederci.
_______
ATTENTION !!!

THIS IS OUR PRIVATE PROPERTY AND ENTRANCE IS FORBI...
72021-07-03 11:49alessandrocarmeli
♦236
Io non ho mai realizzato la traccia, sto solo commentando un changeset. Desidero vedere la chat con il DWG (che attualmente da quel che ho capito non è più operativo essendo fuori da uno stato UE)
82021-07-03 14:22dieterdreist infatti, in OpenStreetMap questo percorso è già inserito come privato, quale legge italiana si pensa sia stata infranta?
92021-07-03 14:34alessandrocarmeli
♦236
Appunto: come stavo dicendo: anche GoogleEart e StreetView fanno foto aeree alle nostre proprietà e dal punto di vista "stradale" alle nostre auto, ma non è che mi vado a lamentare a Milano nella sede di Google.
Non esistono leggi che ci impediscono una mappatura.
102021-07-03 17:14dieterdreist quello in via conclusiva deciderà un tribunale, sembrerebbe che i gestori dell’agriturismo abbiano un avvocato che lo pensa diversamente
122022-08-23 09:05dieterdreist grazie per le info, penso sia stato utile discutere anche qui, così le informazioni rimangono facilmente reperibili
24693188
by mcheckimport
@ 2014-08-12 04:41
12022-08-05 22:33dieterdreist su via del mare hai aggiunto tanti tags =no che non capsico perché, ad esempio non ho mai visto un cartello per foot=no…
98113550
by Antanicus
@ 2021-01-25 10:49
12022-07-06 17:28dieterdreist Hi Antanicus, in this changeset you have deleted some objects, including the feltrinelli bookshop with the comment "misc fixes to area". Could you please explain what kind of fix was applied here?

Cheers,
Martin
22022-07-06 17:40dieterdreist It seems as if you deleted the whole block and then redrew it, but this is frowned upon because typically information is lost. For the same reason, you should not convert polygon POIs to points by deleting the polygons, it leads to data loss (for example the post office in this changeset).
32022-07-07 08:11Antanicus
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Hi dieterdreist, I must have overlooked that POI, by bad. I'll add it back immediately. I'll add back the post office as well.

Re. the deletion of the block, I did so because the previous work was almost impossible to fix: the block outline was overlaid on top of a residential area outl...
42022-07-07 08:15dieterdreist hi, thank you for replying, I forgot to mention that I already restored the Feltrinelli and the post office…

have a good day,
Martin
77338193
by dieterdreist
@ 2019-11-20 17:21
12019-11-21 16:17fayor
♦125
Ti scrivo qua per ribadirti quanto già spiegato nell'altro changeset: non capisci o non vuoi capire che non ci sono entità amministrative al di sotto dei municipi.
Quartiere X Ostiense è una ZONA TOPONOMASTICA,
OSTIENSE (11A) è una ZONA URBANISTICA e ce ne sono a...
22019-11-26 09:52dieterdreist Lo so che Quartiere X Ostiense è una Zona Toponomastica e l'ho anche taggato così, e che Ostiense 11A è una Zona urbanistica. Non saprei cosa crea più confusione, non mappare le zone urbanistiche o mapparle, ma in generale, visto che sono mappabili e verificabili, le...
32019-11-26 09:55dieterdreist Scusa, vorrei aggiungere, non so se "zona toponomastica" è il termine giusto per i Quartieri, è un "Quartiere", cioè un tipo di oggetto toponomastico ben definito nel constesto di Roma.
42019-11-26 15:15fayor
♦125
Dire che "queste zone urbanistiche sono suddivisioni dei municipi E QUINDI sono di natura amministrativa" è una grossa inesattezza,

Così come dire che "non corrispondono ad una giunta o un organo legislativo, sono parti dei municipi, ma CIO' NON TOGLIE la loro na...
52019-11-26 19:22dieterdreist Preferisco chiedere direttamente a te: cosa suggerisci per le zone urbanistiche? C’è un motivo per cui pensi non siano adatti per il tag admin_level=11?
62022-06-22 18:02Claudio Tam
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Buongiorno fayor e dieterdreist!
Stavo cercando un modo di identificare i "Quartieri" tramite i tag. Vi propongo uno schema di tag di tutti i suburbi/rioni/quartieri/zone toponomastici di roma (no urbanistici/amministrativi), che sia più "standard" possibile.

comune a ...
72022-06-22 18:23dieterdreist Buonasera Claudio,

esiste un forum, forum.osm.org che però per l’Italia non è mai stato utilizzato molto, ed ora sta per essere dismesso (perché il software non viene più mantenuto) e traslocato sulla nuova piattaforma community.osm.org
Invece la community itali...
82022-06-22 18:31dieterdreist forse un buon punto per documentare la situazione nonché il tagging sarebbe la pagina di Roma nel wiki di OpenStreetMap
120855693
by dieterdreist
@ 2022-05-11 19:37
12022-06-21 18:57無調味堅果
♦12
please add name:zh-Hant=哈爾基夫
22022-06-21 19:53dieterdreist sorry, I do not read Chinese and I cannot judge this proposal, please add it yourself
121605860
by fberthold
@ 2022-05-28 08:11
12022-05-30 06:48DD1GJ
♦2,288
Wieso entfernst Du kommentarlos das bicycle=no?
22022-05-30 10:16fberthold
♦7
Kommentarlos war vielleicht etwas ungeschickt. Ich habe es entfernt, weil es vorher auch nicht da war, jemand hat es hinzugefügt. Ich fahre dort selbst hin und wieder MTB. Es gibt dort kein Verbot.
32022-05-30 10:42DD1GJ
♦2,288
Im Stadtwald von Baden-Baden und im Gemeindewald von Sinzheim gibt es Konzepte, die durch die Ausweisung von Wander- und MTB-Strecken für eine Entflechtung auf engen Wegen sorgen. Eines gesonderten Verbotsbeschilderung für Fahrräder bedarf es dabei nicht unbedingt, denn in Baden-W&uum...
42022-05-30 15:57fberthold
♦7
Und schon haben wir einen Interessenskonflikt. Die 2 m Regel ist mir bekannt, da sie aber in BW praktisch nicht angewendet wird, kann man sie auch gleich wieder vergessen. Dann müsste man jeden Pfad in OSM für Fahrräder verbieten, was angesichts der Realen Lage problematisch wär...
52022-05-30 22:23DD1GJ
♦2,288
Diese allgemeine Diskussion gab es bereits letztes Jahr für Rheinland-Pfalz. Dort ist die Regelung zwar nicht so eindeutig wie in Baden-Württemberg, aber das bicycle=no wird dennoch eingesetzt und von den meisten Mitwirkenden befürwortet. Es mag sein, dass die Regel im letzten Jahrzeh...
62022-06-01 12:42mcliquid
♦1,863
Hallo zusammen, sollte hier nicht die OTG-Regel greifen? Existiert an diesen Wegen tatsächlich das Verkehrszeichen DE:254?
Falls nein, dann sollte hier aus meiner Sicht auch kein bicycle=no platziert werden. Wenn es eine übergreifende Regelung in einem Bundesland gibt, sollte dies in mein...
72022-06-01 18:05extremecarver
♦3
Wer implizite Verbote taggen möchte - soll sich dafür bitte ein eigenes Tag aussuchen. Den angenommen implizite Regeln werden geändert - so muss man von der Datenbasis in der Lage sein diese für den kompletten Bereich der gesetzlichen Änderung automatisch umzuändern. Bi...
82022-06-01 23:38DD1GJ
♦2,288
Diese Diskussion hat sich ins Forum verlagert: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=75711
92022-06-13 08:45dieterdreist jetzt wird schon seit 2 Wochen diskutiert, und die mtb:scale tags sind immer noch weg, obwohl es ziemlich klar ist dass die nichts mit einem Fahradfahrverbot zu tun haben. Ein erster Schritt könnte deren Wiederherstellung sein…
102022-06-14 08:22DD1GJ
♦2,288
Eine "Wiederherstellung" wird der letzte Schritt sein. komoot arbeitet gerade an einer Lösuung, was voraussichtlich bis Ende des Monats dauern wird.
112022-06-14 11:15dieterdreist Das ist für uns egal wann Komoot es fixed, wenn die mit bicycle=no nicht umgehen können ist das kein Grund, für den Renderer oder Router zu taggen.
122022-06-14 20:34DD1GJ
♦2,288
Router sind kein Problem, denn die berücksichtigen das bicycle=no perfekt.

Das Entfernen bzw. Umtaggen der Scales mit "removed:" ist eher ein Taggen gegen den komoot-Remderer. Ich möchte sogar die provokative These in den Raum stellen, dass das Eintragen der MTB-Scales an f&uu...
122195011
by radlerhh
@ 2022-06-10 07:06
12022-06-11 16:28uvi
♦133
Bitte keine Löschungen weiter vornehmen und bitte hier weiter diskutieren https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=864808#p864808 !!!
22022-06-11 19:20dieterdreist Ob Details interessieren entscheidet der Mapper der sie einträgt, sie rauszulöschen obwohl sie zutreffen ist Vandalismus, bitte sofort damit aufhören.
121191000
by radlerhh
@ 2022-05-19 11:29
12022-06-11 19:18dieterdreist https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/917710927/history
du hast name und operator hier entfernt, waren die nicht zutreffend? Dann sollten sie korrigiert werden, nicht gelöscht
121864157
by mbeyerle
@ 2022-06-02 18:34
12022-06-04 14:28EneaSuper
♦457
Ciao, in questo negozio si vendono ma non si somministrano bevante.

Ergo io, entrando, posso acquistare del vino, ma non posso consumarlo in loco.
22022-06-04 14:58mbeyerle
♦45
Gotcha. If I’m interpreting you correctly I think the specific tagging scheme should be drink:wine=bottled

Based on the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drink

Thanks for reviewing!
32022-06-04 16:27dieterdreist Please, you should never change tags for objects you don’t know in person, and generally there is no reason to remove a tag like sells:wine if you want to add one with a different key like drink:wine (if it would be correct, which happens to not be the case here but could well exist somewhere ...
42022-06-04 16:30dieterdreist drink:wine according to the page you linked is “to describe the specific drink which is served”, so it is not correct with “bottled” either, that would be the case that you would be served bottled wine.
52022-06-04 17:02mbeyerle
♦45
Hi Martin, thanks for joining the conversation! While I completely agree with the premise that local knowledge drives quality on OSM, I think there’s definitely a case to be made for making remote fixes (and I think “never” touching objects that a mapper doesn’t know in perso...
62022-06-04 17:35dieterdreist If a tag is not in the wiki it doesn’t imply it should be removed. There is no either or for tags unless they are using the same key. In this case it seems a bakery sells wine, so sells:wine seems a perfect fit. drink:* is about a tag where you can specify which drinks a place serves (to consu...
72022-06-04 17:48mbeyerle
♦45
drink:* does not imply a beverage is to be consumed on the premises. Otherwise every liquor store tagged with drink:wine would be incorrect. See: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dalcohol
82022-06-04 20:36dieterdreist you are correct that the page states the tag drink is used for beverages served or sold (it is written differently in different places), but still it is not a reason to remove the sells:wine tag because it is more specific and doesn’t include drinks served, it is only about selling them
92022-06-05 13:42dieterdreist As we seem to agree that the tag removal was misguided, I reverted this part of this edit. Looking at your profile, I noticed you performed several of these edits which all removed sells:wine so we would have information loss in all these cases. Please discuss semiautomatic edits like this beforehan...
102022-06-05 15:19bhietsch
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Martin, I disagree that mbeyerle's tag removal was misguided simply by the premise that sells:wine is a more specific tag. Would it be logical for users to replace generally standardized tagging schemes with keys or tags that they believe add specificity on the notion that it will provide end u...
112022-06-05 16:38dieterdreist I did not say to remove anything, and I did not remove the drink:wine tag which mbeyerle has added to this place without knowing it, despite believing it has generally a problem as it isn’t clear whether it is only for places serving a specific drink or also for sale only. I agree that _replac...
122022-06-05 16:51dieterdreist bhietsch, can you understand it makes a huge difference whether a bakery sells wine (to drink at home) or it serves wine to drink on the premises? A tag that can mean both seems almost useless to me, if this was the choice in your part of the world it may work for you, around here we buy the wine in...
132022-06-05 18:15mbeyerle
♦45
Hi Martin,

First, I wanted to say thanks for the passion for the project and for bringing the local cultural differences to my (our) attention.
I see what you mean and agree it's important to not lose fidelity in tagging and wanted to thank you for reviewing and helping accomplish that. H...
142022-06-05 18:56dieterdreist great, let’s move over to the wiki
152022-06-05 19:52dieterdreist I had missed a section in the wiki about the values for the drink: tag and agree it can be used for this place. It wasn’t documented in the value table but I added it (commonly used already), the generic value is “retail”
120667339
by SekeRob
@ 2022-05-07 12:51
12022-05-23 09:01dieterdreist Hi, you removed the reference to wikipedia for this piece of citywalls, there is now no reference at all for this part. Please revert your changes
22022-05-23 09:26SekeRob
♦1,435
However wrong it my be in your view, I've added this one and several others sections to the Aurelian wall relation. There are more parts that for whatever reason were never added to the relation on my inventory list. When the time comes I'll convert the 'site' relation to a ...
32022-05-23 10:05dieterdreist Thing is, the part in question is not part of any relation, site or other, so now the only way to determine that this is a part of the Aurelian Walls is the name. Please add the wikipedia tag and wikidata tag back, because it is required and it is not wrong. There is no benefit from removing correct...
121003735
by giorgio92
@ 2022-05-15 08:35
12022-05-15 09:31dieterdreist ciao Giorgio,

hai rimosso un sacco di edifici, come mai?

un saluto,
Martin
22022-05-17 07:30giorgio92
♦28
ciao molti edifici sono delle strutture temporanee
32022-05-17 07:33dieterdreist stai dicendo che sono stato rimossi?
42022-05-17 07:53giorgio92
♦28
alcuni non erano corretti, si tratta di edifici troppo piccoli per eg. garage oppure tettoie
52022-05-17 08:01dieterdreist in OSM sia garage che tettoie le mappiamo. building=yes va bene come tag, ma building=root e building=garage sarebbe più preciso. Toglierle non è giusto, ti chiedo di ripristinare, grazie.
62022-05-17 08:02dieterdreist roof non root, scusa
72022-05-17 08:09dieterdreist per dire, "troppo piccolo" non esiste, qualsiasi dimensione va bene.
82022-05-18 18:32giorgio92
♦28
Ciao Martin, perdona il disturbo per ripristinare un elemento cancellato c'è una procedura specifica oppure è necessario disegnarlo ex-novo ?
grazie
92022-05-18 20:58dieterdreist ci sono possibilità vari, per ricreare un oggetto singolo c'è una funzione in Josm, per revertare tutto un changeset un'altra. Altrimenti ci sono script...
102022-05-18 20:58dieterdreist se mi dici i numeri di changeset posso revertare alcuni, tipo questo qui, ok?
112022-05-19 12:29giorgio92
♦28
ok nessun problema puoi reversarlo
122022-05-19 12:52dieterdreist fatto. Ci sono altri simili da fare revert?
132022-05-20 13:32giorgio92
♦28
non credo che ci siano altri revert da fare, altri sono stati fatti già da altri utenti
120896494
by Mariateresa-Magno
@ 2022-05-12 15:59
12022-05-16 16:37dieterdreist Hi, just wanted to let you know you have (maybe inadvertedly) uploaded a low resolution version of the lake above the existent lake data ;-)
I have removed the problem for you.
Have a good day,
Martin
121003817
by giorgio92
@ 2022-05-15 08:39
12022-05-15 09:38dieterdreist non capisco le tue modifiche, perché togli gli edifici che prima hai inserito?
121004114
by giorgio92
@ 2022-05-15 08:49
12022-05-15 09:33dieterdreist anche qui vedo soprattutto cancellazioni, di oggetti che non solo erano inseriti da te, ci puoi spiegare le motivazioni?

Ciao Martin
117470015
by Norman Spirit
@ 2022-02-16 10:32
12022-05-09 09:37dieterdreist hi,
can you please explain why you changed the tagging from graveyard to cemetery?
22022-05-13 21:04Norman Spirit
♦10
A graveyard is only a cemetery adjacent to a church or place of worship. There is no such building here.
32022-05-13 23:14dieterdreist I don‘t know, maybe there was? Do you know the place?
120827218
by mbr1565
@ 2022-05-11 08:25
12022-05-11 10:54wkdgs
♦607
Ähm, warum wurde das gesamte Gebäude gelöscht? Im Änderungskommentar steht ja nur eine neue Adresse.
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#REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/120827218
22022-05-11 11:01mbr1565
♦1
Der Sitz der Einrichtung befindet sich im Paterweg 54 in Beckum. Details bzw. die Anschriften der einzelnen Wohngruppen sollen zum Schutz der Bewohner im Internet nicht bekannt gegeben werden.
32022-05-11 12:53wkdgs
♦607
Aber die Information, dass dort ein Gebäude existiert, das die Hausnummer 50 hat, ist doch öffentlich. Auf https://www.geoportal.nrw/ ist das Gebäude ebenfalls inklusive Adresse eingezeichnet. Zumindest die Information sollte wieder eingetragen werden.
42022-05-11 12:54wkdgs
♦607
Aber die Information, dass dort ein Gebäude existiert, das die Hausnummer 50 hat, ist doch öffentlich. Auf https://www.geoportal.nrw/ ist das Gebäude ebenfalls inklusive Adresse eingezeichnet. Zumindest die Information sollte wieder eingetragen werden.
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#R...
52022-05-11 13:01wkdgs
♦607
Ich hab das mal im OSM-Forum zur Diskussion gestellt: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=862426#p862426
62022-05-11 13:20dieterdreist wenn man einzelne Adressen taggt aber nicht sagt dass es sich dabei um die Wohngruppe X handelt, dann ist dem Schutzbedürfnis doch Genüge getan. Ein Gebäude an sich ist keine geheime Information, genausowenig wie die Adressen, erst wenn man taggt um was es sich handelt wird ggf. das G...
72022-05-11 13:26mbr1565
♦1
Die Hausnummer ist natürlich kein Geheimnis und wurde nur versehentlich gelöscht. Habe gerade versucht sie wieder hinzuzufügen und hoffe, dass es geklappt hat. Ziel soll nur sein, dass der Name der Einrichtung dort nicht auftaucht.
114259063
by dieterdreist
@ 2021-11-26 11:12
12022-04-15 17:50SekeRob
♦1,435
Hi Dieter

Osmose is upset over the same wiki reference being used on each section of the Aurelian Walls, like a dozen times. I'd propose that they're all removed from the wall sections and only left on the (site) relation. To my surprise the site relation does have the wikidata key, but...
22022-04-15 20:15dieterdreist hm, frankly I do not use osmose because from the experiences I had when I looked at it I was disagreeing with what was highlighted. Do we really want to make edits just to silence a qa tool? I won’t and would oppose.
But we can have a discussion about the best place to add wikipedia reference...
32022-04-16 08:36SekeRob
♦1,435
Glad you agree with what Osmose flagged is in essence correct... it's function is to signal issues which humans are then to assess as Yes, fix, No, false positive. Site is a good relational function to bind non-continuous objects. Duplication of information is bad. 10 parts of a street with sa...
42022-04-16 08:46dieterdreist I believe there is a misconception here, I did not write that I concur with osmose. Are you going to remove the name and historic=citywalls tags as well from the individual ways? I also question the “single real world feature”, and in particular that it is a “site” because it...
52022-04-22 17:45SekeRob
♦1,435
After doing an inventory of the wall situation few days ago, I've decided now to park the issue FTM as it requires dedicated time to clean this up, remove all the endlessly and inconsistent information duplication to include name:... language tags etc and post a note to each wall part to only a...
62022-04-22 18:25dieterdreist I don’t understand why you have to “clean up”, why don’t you simply ignore the tags on the ways and deal with the relation only?
72022-04-22 19:01SekeRob
♦1,435
'Ignore'? You may, I don't.
82022-04-22 19:22dieterdreist there is still a lot to draw ;-)
92022-04-22 19:25dieterdreist IMHO any pertinent wikipedia link is ok, don’t care for the language if they are linked in wikimedia, and wp is probably better than wikidata links because you can read it, while the wikidata numbers are mostly opaque (better editor support would be helpful)
117322156
by KartoGrapHiti
@ 2022-02-12 13:47
12022-04-22 09:51dieterdreist Hi KartoGrapHiti, sehe gerade, dass Deine "Korrekturen des name tags" teilweise bedeuten, dass der name tag komplett entfernt wurde (z.B. "Verwaltungsgebäude"), und dass teilweise zumindest Informationen verloren gegangen sind, z.B. hier wurde "Philosophikum I" kom...
22022-04-22 15:29KartoGrapHiti
♦85
Hi Martin,
"Verwaltungsgebäude" und der Klammerzusatz "Philosophikum I" sind ja keine Namen, sondern Beschreibungen. Es ist ja nicht so, dass ein Gebäude unter dem Namen "Verwaltungsgebäude" bekannt ist, sondern das ist eine Beschreibung. Da sind sich ei...
32022-04-22 15:54dieterdreist Hallo KartoGrapHiti,
bei "Verwaltungsgebäude" mag man sich streiten können, das ist sicherlich auch eine Beschreibung, könnte aber lokal auch als Name genutzt werden. Bei "Zugspitze" oder "Düsseldorf" oder lokal z.B. "Alter Friedhof" oder ...
42022-04-23 07:57KartoGrapHiti
♦85
Bitte lass uns die Diskussion im Forum weiter führen, es geht hier ja nicht um mich, sondern darum, wie die Community das handhabt.
97831816
by Dino Michelini
@ 2021-01-20 11:03
12022-03-18 11:18dieterdreist Ciao Dino Michelini,

cambierei il "name" nel nome italiano. Il resto rimarebbe (compreso name:it se vogliamo), cosa ne pensi?

Ciao,
Martin
22022-03-18 11:18dieterdreist scusa, mi riferisco a questo: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/12213226
32022-03-18 11:33Dino Michelini
♦321
Ciao, avevo posto name in inglese perché considerato che si tratta di un sito UNESCO avesse più "visibilità" sulla mappa. D'altra parte è formalmente corretto quello che scrivi… A questo punto si potrebbe aggiungere qualche altra lingua ad es. quell...
42022-03-29 21:49dieterdreist va benissimo, pensavo lo facessi ;-)
113893120
by LaraRattaggi
@ 2021-11-17 11:18
12022-03-21 10:15dieterdreist Hello LaraRattaggi, something went wrong with your map edit, there are a bunch of nodes with only the tags natural=wood and description=map for future.
The tag natural=wood is for areas naturally covered with trees, usually these are areas, not nodes.
The tag description is for descriptions of fea...
94638957
by ivanbranco
@ 2020-11-23 12:48
12022-03-17 10:43dieterdreist Hi,
just noticed you have removed the cuisine tag from le Bistrot, shouldn’t it have been modified rather than removing it?
Cheers Martin
22022-03-17 10:56ivanbranco
♦2,701
L'ho sostituito con il tag diet:vegan. Le diete usano il prefisso diet, non sono value del tag cuisine. Come avresti modificato tu?
32022-03-17 11:32dieterdreist cuisine=french
94022927
by ADUOSM
@ 2020-11-12 23:26
12022-03-09 11:14dieterdreist Hi, I have seen you changed the common tag office=it to the rarely used combination office=company and company=software_development
Can you explain your reasoning?
Cheers,
Martin
22022-03-14 17:20ADUOSM
♦2
Hello,
I simply followed this wiki : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Dcompany
Shouldn't I ?
Best regards,
Alex
32022-03-14 23:22dieterdreist I wouldn’t necessarily, it is a tag that is often used because it renders, but specifics are scarse, and many companies are tagged with a different scheme (office=* where * is different to “company”)
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/office#values
Only 3000 company=* specifi...
118252141
by Knightyyyy1
@ 2022-03-08 20:44
12022-03-09 15:12surveyor54
♦648
Hi,
die Namen, die du hier bei einigen Gebäuden einträgst, sind keine Namen. So etwas gehört eher in den Tag "operator" oder "description".
Lies dir bitte den Wikibeitrag über Namen durch.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Names

Gruß
survey...
22022-03-09 16:09Knightyyyy1
♦4
Hi!

Der Vorschlag kam von OSM. Wenn ich bei dem Telekom Gebaeude den 'name' Tag entferne wird er mir automatisch vorgeschlagen.

"Vorgeschlagene Aktualisierungen:
+ name=Deutsche Telekom AG"

Ideen?
32022-03-09 21:25dieterdreist Zu diesem Thema wird gerade auch im deutschen Forum diskutiert:
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=75088
69512647
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2019-04-24 06:01
12022-03-03 14:07dieterdreist this is another changeset where the pieces of roundabouts have been merged thereby damaging the bus route relations.
92117084
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2020-10-07 13:50
12022-03-03 14:03dieterdreist Ciao Michele,
purtroppo trovo tante relazioni "route" rotte perché hai unito i pezzi delle rotonde. Ti chiedo gentilmente di non farlo.
91864537
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2020-10-02 11:40
12022-03-03 13:11dieterdreist Vorrei segnalare che crossing=marked solitamente si interpreta come "senza semaforo", mentre qui hai aggiunto ad un incrocio di tipo sconosciuto (highway=crossing) un crossing=marked dove c'è un semaforo (crossing=traffic_signals). Ti scrivo perché mi capita spesso di tr...
116160734
by VioMaffe
@ 2022-01-14 19:25
12022-03-02 12:14dieterdreist Ciao VioMaffe,

ho notato che stavi cercando un tag per corte / cortile, e sembrerebbe che alla fine hai deciso di cancellare gli inizi. In realtà c'è un tag, non molto conosciuto, ma comunque utilizzato 21mila volte, man_made=courtyard
Puoi trovare la documentazione qui: https...
112225536
by mascalzone67
@ 2021-10-07 16:40
12022-02-25 22:13dieterdreist Ciao pippo67, ho notato che hai cancellato non solo il vecchio Lidl come attività ma anche tutto l'edificio compreso l'indirizzo. Non ho fatto caso quando ci sono stato la scorsa volta, non rimane niente del fabbricato? Penso l'indirizzo probabilmente sarebbe da ripristinare in...
116922185
by Città di Palmi
@ 2022-02-02 16:34
12022-02-15 22:48dieterdreist mi sembra qui è stato cancellato il nome del luogo, Caserma Piave, senza sostituzione su un altro oggetto. Non conosco la situazione, ma da una breve ricerca in rete mi risulta una caserma di questo nome qui.

Ciao,
Martin
84095873
by FvGordon
@ 2020-04-25 08:46
12022-02-12 23:03dieterdreist hi, I just noticed you deleted the school area and moved the tags to the building. I believe this is removing information, because it was already in the data that there is a school building inside a school area, but now there is only the school building and the area is gone.

Cheers,
Martin
22022-02-13 11:05FvGordon
♦217
Hi, I got the Error Message from the JOSM Validator, that there are touching Outer Roles in this Multipolygon, which I repared in this CS. When I revert my changes locally, I can see, that the School Multipolygon only includes the School building, consisting of three building parts, where I made a c...
32022-02-14 10:48dieterdreist you are correct, after checking the extension of the deleted relation it did indeed not go beyond the building outline. Sorry for bothering you. I will now fix the geometry of the school.
Cheers,
Martin
116485021
by Toubibe
@ 2022-01-23 00:42
12022-02-01 11:17dieterdreist Hi, please try to make smaller changesets, this one spans 2 continents. I notice you deleted a building in Uetendorf, including the address (housenumber 46, which is now missing). Was it on purpose or by accident?
115513285
by Martino Scaglione
@ 2021-12-29 11:10
12022-01-14 09:27dieterdreist Hi, in this changeset you have removed a lot of tags from the vatican city, namely ISO3166-1:alpha2, contry_code_fips, and all official name tags (15), and introduced a very long bilingual value in the name tag, all with the comment "fixed tags vatican city". You also changed the place lab...
22022-01-14 09:37dieterdreist forgot it, please also explain the deletion of the ordine di Sant'Agostino: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8709827024/history
32022-01-14 09:41dieterdreist After looking deeper into this edit I can see that removing country information from the place=city/town makes sense. I am unsure about the bilingual name, but would think this should be discussed with the Italian community. The classification change from town to city has so much impact that I rever...
42022-01-14 11:32Martino Scaglione
♦67
I changed name to including the latin and italian name because this nation has these languages as official languages, as it is customary in nations or territories with more than one official language.
I deleted the city_block because it didn't make sense, as there is already this relation http...
52022-01-14 13:55dieterdreist agostini:
the issue I see with the Agostini is that you did not delete place=city_block, you deleted the whole object with all translations and the wikidata link and wp link (which both are about the Augustine Order and not about this facility, agreed, but could have been retagged to wikidata:opera...
62022-01-14 15:05Martino Scaglione
♦67
It can be tagged as a neighbourhood (?)
72022-01-14 15:29dieterdreist if we decide to remove any of city/town/village it could get place=suburb IMHO, while it is very small by inhabitants, it is very important on a global scale, and I guess it is also important regarding for example economical indicators like the GDP (compared to other suburbs). It used to be a place=...
82022-01-14 21:36Martino Scaglione
♦67
I would opt for suburb.
92022-01-15 15:36dieterdreist I am tending towards place=country, or is there already another node with the tag?
102022-01-15 15:38dieterdreist regarding the double naming, it is an exceptional case here as well, because Latin is the official language but it is a dead language, no mother tongues here. I’m unsure and would discuss it on the tagging mailing list.
112022-01-15 16:59Martino Scaglione
♦67
But this is not an argument since previously the name was latin only. I added italian because also italian is official language there.
122022-01-16 00:12dieterdreist Have a look: https://pewu.github.io/osm-history/#/node/424311883
before your edit, the name of this node was Italian only, since 2016-08. Before this, it was Latin since 2013, before it was Italian.
132022-01-16 11:26Martino Scaglione
♦67
I was talking about the relation. If there was a language on the node and another on the relation is worse. I fixed these inconsistencies, you say that the node had a history of changing back and forth between latin and italian, if we have both there is no longer reason to change the name.
142022-01-17 08:31dieterdreist I did not say "changing back and forth", it only changed a few times in 13 years. Of ~90 edits, the node name was changed 3-4 times as was the relation name. Looking at the relation 36989, it started with an English name in 2008, which became Italian in 2009 and latin in 2010, then again I...
152022-02-05 17:53Jojo4u
♦265
Hi, coincidentally I noticed that Vatican City ist the only country in the world which has place=country not as a node but on the border relation. I'd like to have it on a node in order to have a consistent use worldwide. Country nodes are a bit of legacy tagging, but they are still here (advan...
162022-02-05 18:08Jojo4u
♦265
Done in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/117055531
Place=country https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9481710122
Place=suburb https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/424311883
Removed place=country from border relation https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/36989.
29373137
by AndiG88
@ 2015-03-09 22:24
12022-01-17 08:20dieterdreist Hi, I noticed that you added landuse=religious to a whole country. Can you explain why? Is a museum "religious" landuse? A bank, a supermarket or a post office? A park? A police station? The administration of a portfolio worth billions of dollars? Should we also add landuse=religious to al...
116160360
by VioMaffe
@ 2022-01-14 19:13
12022-01-15 23:44dieterdreist Ciao VioMaffe, ieri hai cancellato il museo delle memorie a Corviale, perché?
116075374
by stefano trinca
@ 2022-01-12 17:15
12022-01-14 15:03dieterdreist Ciao Stefano Trinca, ho notato che hai riclassificato il Parco Naturale Regionale Appia Antica da nature reserve (riserva naturale) a park (parco urbano). Per come noi interpretiamo il tag "park", il parco dell'appia antica non può essere considerato un leisure=park, perch&eacu...
81866509
by Davide Ser
@ 2020-03-06 11:59
12022-01-13 11:27dieterdreist Ciao Davide Ser, ho notato che al Lotto57 ci sono tag per indicare l'indirizzo Via Caffaro 24. Vorrei chiederti se fosse giusto, intendo se questo è l'unico ingresso a tutto il lotto, altrimenti dovrebbe essere spostato il civico su un nodo alla sua posizione.
Grazie,
Martin
22022-01-14 10:21Davide Ser
♦1
Ciao Martin, ci sono due ingressi al Lotto 57: il principale su via Caffaro (via Caffaro 24) e il secondario, senza numero civico, su via Gerolamo Adorno (c'è una scala che porta al cortile).
32022-01-14 14:04dieterdreist Grazie Davide per la risposta, stavo per mappare nohousenumber=yes all'ingresso di Via Adorno, ma secondo dei fonti non utilizzabili, il civico è 60 e la targa c'è. Ho aggiornato la mappa con i tuoi commenti, grazie ancora, Martin
107645659
by FraMauro
@ 2021-07-08 15:14
12022-01-11 13:41dieterdreist Ciao FraMauro, per qualche svista (credo) hai aggiunto dei tag address sulla strada way 124087393.
L'ho trovato con il nuovo tool https://nominatim.org/qa/
un saluto,
Martin
77905000
by emblenj
@ 2019-12-04 01:34
12022-01-10 11:32dieterdreist Hi, I just wanted to let you know in this changeset you somehow ended up with a broken multipolygon relation (only inner ways). Maybe this is an iD-editor bug?
Relation 106272
83077007
by lonvia
@ 2020-04-04 16:58
12022-01-06 14:07dieterdreist Hallo Lonvia, wieso hast du die lokalisierten Namen entfernt? Und ist eine Gebietsreform wirklich das einzig relevante für einen place=town node, betrifft die nicht vor allem die Verwaltung und weniger die Identität, zumindest mittelfristig?
22022-01-06 14:54lonvia
♦37
Weil das Ding entweder Dessau-Roßlau heisst oder Dessau. Beides geht nicht. Ich habe das ganze halt in eine Richtung gefixt und vermutlich war der Gedanke, das das Rendering bleibt wie es war. Aber das ist jetzt zwei Jahre her. Vielleicht würde ich das heute anders machen, aber das wä...
32022-01-07 00:24dieterdreist Ich glaube Dessau-Roßlau ist für die admin Relation genau richtig, aber die Stadt heißt immer noch Dessau. Im Rathaus von Dessau sitzt jetzt die Stadtverwaltung von Dessau-Roßlau. Das Bauhaus Dessau ist immer noch das Bauhaus Dessau, Dessau Hauptbahnhof, etc.

Zu dem node 24...
42022-01-07 00:29dieterdreist die Wikipedia und Wikidata Artikel muss man nicht ändern, der Anspruch dass das 1:1 passt lässt sich oft nicht erfüllen weil die WP Artikel mehrere Aspekte in einem Artikel behandeln, und Wikidata im wesentlichen 1:1 zu den Artikeln Objekte hat, also auch mischt.
52022-01-07 08:19lonvia
♦37
Doch, Wikipedia/Wikidata anzupassen ist wichtig hier. Es gibt nämlich getrennte Artikel für beide. Aber auch im allgemeinen Fall gilt: wikipedia sollte einen Artikel über das Objekt referenzieren. Eine Erwähnung im Artikel reicht nicht. Man muss nicht um jeden Preis ein Wikidata/...
62022-01-09 21:51dieterdreist ich glaube ich stand auf dem Schlauch, mit "Wikipedia/Wikidata-Einträge [angepassen]" war gemeint, die osm tags für WP und WD auf andere Entitäten zeigen zu lassen, nicht die Inhalte bei WP und WD zu ändern. Das kann man natürlich gerne machen, wenn ein anderer Art...
115652105
by ian727
@ 2022-01-01 21:38
12022-01-05 15:34streckenkundler
♦1,042
Toll... du hat hier viele völlig unnötige MP-Monster geschaffen... :(Das bearbeitet so nie wieder jemand an... Bitte versuche MP's nur da einzusetzen, wo es geometrisch zwingend nötig ist... Das hilft allem...


EN:
Great... you have created many completely unnecessary MP mo...
22022-01-05 15:39ian727
♦21
Da scheiden sich wohl die Geister. Als ich vor ein par Jahren noch ohne MPs gemappt habe, kamen gleich die Nachrichten à la: "Uahh, bitte überschneidende Linien unbedingt vermeiden, MPs benutzen!". Jetzt nutze ich MPs und mache es natürlich wieder nicht allen recht. Was w&...
32022-01-05 16:27streckenkundler
♦1,042
MP's sollten wirdklich nur dann eingesetzt werden, wenn es geometrisch nötig ist (Wiese im Wald). Ich versuche ganz streng MP's mit die mehrere Outer haben zu vermeiden. Solche sollten nur eingesetzt werden, wenn es annähernd oder mehr als 2000 Stützpunkte sind. Eine Linie, ...
42022-01-05 16:33ian727
♦21
Danke für die ausführliche Antwort. Ich schreibe dir ggf. nochmal eine PM mit weiteren Fragen, weil ich mir jetzt nicht mehr ganz sicher bin, wie ich bestimmte "areas" dann mappen soll. Schonmal als Vorwarnung: Wenn du MPs nicht magst, wirst du bei meinen anderen Edits erst recht...
52022-01-06 23:34dieterdreist Monster sehe ich hier keine, und auch nicht die Gefahr dass sie zu welchen werden. Ich stimme Ian727 zu, da scheiden sich wohl die Geister. Wenn es nur ganz einfache Polygone mit wenigen Punkten sind (wie hier die neuen MP) könnte man schon überlegen ob gestapelte Polygone nicht einfacher ...
62022-01-06 23:38dieterdreist Multipolygone erst einzusetzen ab 2000 Nodes bedeutet andersrum betrachtet ja, dass man erstmal die Fläche an 2000 Stellen mit anderen Flächen verknüpft hat und das jedesmal wieder auftrennen muss wenn man was ändert. Ich würde die Grenze eher bei 5-10 nodes sehen
115767037
by highflyer74
@ 2022-01-04 18:45
12022-01-04 20:11Inghuimischar
♦2
Servus,
bei allem Aktionismus nicht vergessen: "Mir erscheint es wichtig, daß man beim Mappen ein wenig die Augen aufhält..."

Zwei Adressen zwei juristische Personen, zwei USTID:

TANDLER Zahnrad- und Getriebefabrik GmbH & Co. KG
Kornstraße 297-301, 28201 Brem...
22022-01-04 20:27highflyer74
♦2,447
Hi und danke für Deine Rückmeldung! Mit Aktionismus hatte das nicht viel gemein. Dass dort mehrere juristische Personen residieren war mir aber in der Tat entgangen. Der von Dir gemappte Node unterschied sich lediglich in der Telefonnummer vom schon existierenden. Da das Gelände auf d...
32022-01-05 10:00dieterdreist siehe auch https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=74585
42022-01-05 10:34highflyer74
♦2,447
@dieterdreist: danke für den Hinweis. Da Inghuimischar anscheinend nicht diskussionsfreudig, sondern beleidigt ist, baue ich das hier zurück. Das Ganze ist im Zuge meiner täglichen Mappingaktivitäten in Bremen entstanden und tatsächlich kein Grund zur Aufregung. Entspannten ...
32269846
by Mateusz Konieczny
@ 2015-06-28 19:28
12022-01-02 10:31dieterdreist hi, you added building=residential to these landuse polygons, but they really aren't a building, there are tens of buildings inside these polygons...
22022-01-02 18:04Mateusz Konieczny
♦7,666
Typically it is acceptable as the initial step when mapping - though it depends on area, may change over time especially as quality of aerial imagery is getting better.

Feel free to delete them if nowadays in Rome this kind of mapping is unwelcome.

Or add fixme tags

(note when this edit was...
32022-01-03 01:02dieterdreist Thank you for replying. I don’t have the time currently to trace this area, so I have put some fixme tags, thing is that people will be less likely mapping the buildings if there is something there, and it leads to problems like this (which I probably should have fixed) https://www.openstreetm...
672888
by francesco_pe
@ 2008-11-03 22:59
12022-01-02 10:51dieterdreist Ciao Francesco,
mi rendo conto, sono passati 13 anni ;-)
Ti vorrei comunque segnalare che access=no per le strade riservato agli autobus non è giusto in questo caso (come quasi mai lo è), esempio way 22716413, perché la strada è accessibile ai pedoni (sul marciapiede). ...
75628305
by LoreMazza91
@ 2019-10-13 16:15
12022-01-02 10:34dieterdreist Hi, I saw that you added the value crossing=uncontrolled;zebra to some pedestrian crossings. Can you explain what this is intended to mean?
22022-01-02 10:36dieterdreist even weirder: crossing=zebra;traffic_signals.
This variant is definitely against the documented usage of the crossing tag.
81634972
by Cristian Torcinaro
@ 2020-03-01 04:00
12021-12-31 11:12dieterdreist Hi, you have changed the name of Frigidarium to Frigidarium-gelateria, this is a description but not the name.
I have fixed it now.

Cheers,
Martin
81079835
by francians
@ 2020-02-16 19:25
12021-12-29 11:23dieterdreist Hi, you're right, there was a typo in the VATIN, but why didn't you fix it, rather than deleting it wholesale?
22021-12-29 18:01francians
♦222
Ciao Martin,

Non l'avrò trovata... Meglio non lasciare info errate IMHO.

Francesco
51994221
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2017-09-13 06:46
12021-12-26 23:41dieterdreist Ciao Michele, ho visto che qui hai cambiato il ref=GRA in ref=A90 (c’è già un official_ref=A90) ma nella realtà si trova GRA sui segni e tutti dicono GRA. Con la tua modifica GRA non si trova più, ma per me sarebbe da avere da qualche parte, perché utile e re...
115022918
by JeroenvanderGun
@ 2021-12-16 19:52
12021-12-17 12:15aixbrick
♦840
Hello,
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1012869847 is not part of the bus routes (line 54) and if you split a roundabout (at "Eurode Business Center") with bus lines running through, only those ways should be part of the route which the bus uses.
But what makes me wonder is: You splitte...
22021-12-17 20:20JeroenvanderGun
♦182
I think I made a mistake in JOSM that broke the relations. I probably edited the ways without fully downloading their relations first.

I see someone else already fixed the route relations: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/115063692
32021-12-17 22:10aixbrick
♦840
That could be an explanation. Thanks for your answer and to Leo Slager for the correction :-).
42021-12-18 15:55dieterdreist it should work despite not the whole route relation being downloaded, it doesn’t matter, when a way is split that is part of a route, all parts must still be part of the relations, maybe you told Josm not to keep the part?
114958488
by AlCeRoma
@ 2021-12-15 10:42
12021-12-15 11:22dieterdreist Ciao, ho per caso notato che hai messo il way 130182466 come "natural=grassland", cosa mi sembra molto sospetto (al meno), perché ci sono stato e si tratta di campi di agricoltura, eventualmente o parzialmente abbandonati, eventualmente usati per produzione di fieno, ma in nessun mo...
22021-12-15 11:29AlCeRoma
♦9
No, gran parte di quell'area non è coltivata, è lasciata così ad erba. Abito a poca distanza dal luogo e mi capita spesso di passarci, credo di conoscere sufficientemente la zona. Se quell'area era in passato coltivata non posso saperlo. Preciso che l'area era sta...
32021-12-15 11:38dieterdreist sì, potrebbero essere in disuso, ma sono comunque campi o prati (meadow), soprattutto se viene raccolto. C’erano molte più geometrie che descrivenano piccole aree, ad esempio natural=scrub dove è più denso. Ora sono al cellulare ma ti scrivo a breve più in de...
42021-12-15 11:46AlCeRoma
♦9
Può darsi che ci siano dei tag più precisi per descrivere in maniera dettagliata la zona. Con iD editor effettivamente si è un po' condizionati nella scelta.
Buona giornata.
52021-12-15 15:01dieterdreist guardando ancora sulle ortofoto si vede bene che queste aree sono tutte o maggiormente (tranne delle zone piccole tra le aree) mantenute, forse landuse=meadow potrebbe essere appropriato (farei singole aree, ci sono anche recinzioni, la suddivisione sulle ortofoto è evidente). Una parte &egra...
114264529
by fedc
@ 2021-11-26 13:44
12021-11-30 09:21dieterdreist Ciao Fedc, le "light_rail" sono ferrovie "normali", in questo caso, considerando la frequenza delle fermate e i mezzi utilizzati esempio http://www.ferroviaromanord.altervista.org/DSCN0335.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BMb5bkjzapw/Xlww3VKMEfI/AAAAAAAA2VM/n5cqAfENmNUIpCUunl8nPUQ...
22021-12-10 15:33dieterdreist Non avendo più avuto riscontro procedo come spiegato e la metto a light rail.

Ciao,
Martin
104919640
by JeroenvanderGun
@ 2021-05-19 01:04
12021-12-06 12:19dieterdreist Hi, I just noticed you have created a relation for the "Eurozone". Maybe I am misgiuded, but from my understanding, this could be automatically computed by evaluating the low profile "currency" tags and combining them with the official boundaries of the European Union? The result...
22021-12-06 20:15JeroenvanderGun
♦182
This relation has only 19 members so it's not heavy-weight. (This is not a type=boundary relation.) It's also useful to have this relation because it attaches a name and metadata to the query, e.g. making it retrievable by search.

That said, you indirectly do raise a valid question rega...
32021-12-06 21:51dieterdreist Hi Jeroen, thank you for your reply. The “weight” of the relation is not its immediate complexity (I agree, 19 members are easy to overlook, and it won’t produce many versions because they are all relations). But if you look at a typical operation with OpenStreetMap data like geogr...
42021-12-06 22:24JeroenvanderGun
♦182
As far as I understand, nesting relations inside larger relations is common mapping practice: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Super-relation

For example, this relation indirectly contains the entire main road network of Europe: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7884303

Surely any data...
52021-12-06 22:50dieterdreist indeed, those network relations like https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7884303 or those “collecting” public transport routes are also questionable.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations_are_not_categories
62021-12-06 22:51dieterdreist it’s not about crashing computers, it’s about additional processing for redundant data.
65296381
by procuste
@ 2018-12-08 16:51
12021-12-01 15:50dieterdreist Ciao Procuste,

ho notato che hai inserito intorno all'Auditorio 5 giardini tutti con il nome "Giardino Claudio Abbado". Possibile che nella realtà si tratta dello stesso giardino?

Ciao,
Martin
22021-12-04 15:57procuste
♦13
Buon pomeriggio, Martin
sì, dovrebbe essere l'intero giardino intorno all'auditorium ad avere quel nome. Sinceramente non ricordo perché avessi optato per replicare il nome in ogni pezzetto di giardino, probabilmente non ero riuscito a creare un multipolygon o c'era sta...
32021-12-05 10:59dieterdreist Buongiorno Procuste,
grazie per la risposta, allora lo modifico che risulta come un giardino unico.
Ciao,
Martin
75592071
by GBAB
@ 2019-10-12 05:19
12021-11-26 12:35dieterdreist You have added historic=city_gate to the Arco di Giano, which seems completely off. Can you explain which are your sources?
Cheers,
Martin
22021-11-26 12:41dieterdreist You have also declared the Arco degli Argentari as a city gate which is equally wrong (or I am interested in learning about the reasoning, but in any case, a city gate requires a city wall in the first place, no?)
32021-11-26 13:16GBAB
♦101
Though they are indeed no city gates in a literally sense, however, since I don't know any OSM tags for triuph arches (and, actually, there cannot be separate tags for each type of object) it seems a good idea to be a bit abstract and add a tag similar to it.
42021-11-26 17:03dieterdreist Actually the arch of Janus is not even a triumph arch, current hypothesis is it is just a covered crossroad.
There are many triumph archs already tagged in OpenStreetMap, I think something like historic=monument would fit well, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23590989

a city gate is not ...
52021-11-27 16:17GBAB
♦101
Dear Martin,

(könnte man Dir eigentlich nicht auf Deutsch schreiben? Mir wäre es bequemer.)

I may agree that a city gate is something specific and not the best tagging option. Let's discuss it.

However, I strongly disagree that they would be monuments. Monuments are a very sp...
62021-11-28 12:10dieterdreist Hallo Gábor, wir können gerne auch auf deutsch weiterdiskutieren. Ja, man muss aufpassen bei historic=monument, weil das (gerade in Italien mit dem falschen Freund "monumento") öfters verwechselt wird, aber bei Triumphbögen halte ich historic=monument für absolut...
72021-11-30 10:32GBAB
♦101
Hallo Martin,

ehrlich gesagt bin ich nicht so tief in die feinen Details eingegangen…

Ob ein historisches Ereignis groß genug ist, einen Objekt als 'monument' zu bezeichnen, ist eine Interpretationsfrage. Die verschiedenen Schlachte der Römer scheinen für mich ...
82021-11-30 12:20dieterdreist Dann lassen wir den Janusbogen erstmal, barrier ist er sicherlich nicht und nie gewesen, eher das Gegenteil, man kann von allen vier Seiten eintreten, eine Tür oder so gibt es nicht (eben eine Kreuzung und wohl auch Unterstand bei Regengüssen für den nahen Viehmarkt, jedenfalls ist da...
66895625
by GBAB
@ 2019-02-04 08:07
12021-11-27 01:18dieterdreist any reason why you did not consider these as work of public art? I believe the tags that have been removed were valid tags...
22021-11-27 16:09GBAB
♦101
According to OSM wiki, the difference between a tourism=artwork and a historic=memorial + memorial statue is whether they represent a named figure or not.

For example if there is a statue of a bird or ship or even of an unnamed girl on a street, that is a tourism=artwork. If there is a statue of ...
32021-11-28 12:22dieterdreist Hallo Gàbor,
ich antworte auch hier auf deutsch wie in unserer parallelen Diskussion zum Arco di Giano besprochen (zu historic=monument siehe dort, https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/75592071 )
Hinsichtlich tourism=artwork in Abgrenzung zu historic=memorial war mir nicht klar, dass es ...
42021-11-30 10:34GBAB
♦101
Hallo Martin,

ich habe die Abgrenzung an den deutschen Wiki-Seiten gefunden:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:artwork_type%3Dstatue
„Für eine Statue, die eine historische Person darstellt und gedenkt, benutze historic=memorial + memorial=statue.”

Und https://wiki...
52021-11-30 11:51dieterdreist Danke für die Rückmeldung, habe jetzt gesehen dass es im englischen auch so steht (beides von Geozeisig in 2018 eingebracht). Ich habe dazu jetzt mal im deutschen Forum einen Thread aufgemacht: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=848263
Gruß,
Martin
75422637
by TWHB
@ 2019-10-08 16:19
12021-11-27 02:18dieterdreist more parts added together that do not belong together anymore.
22021-11-27 02:20dieterdreist you even added porta Salaria, a city gate that was turn down 100 years ago, as barrier=sally_port
Really I remain speechless how a mapper with 2000 edits can make such edits.
90131821
by Frugol
@ 2020-08-29 22:04
12021-11-26 22:22dieterdreist Ciao ludofru,
ho notato che spesso stai cancellando parti per poi ridisegnarli, e generalmente sono anche d'accordo che quelle situazioni meritavano un intervento. Il problema con il cancellare e ricreare è che rende molto difficile leggere lo storico, in realtà sembra interrotto...
49478268
by iLaw
@ 2017-06-12 18:54
12021-11-26 20:55dieterdreist hi iLaw, the acquario isn’t actually an tourism=aquarium as it is used by the architectural association and not to show fish. I removed the tag.
Cheers Martin
75422093
by TWHB
@ 2019-10-08 16:02
12021-11-26 12:46dieterdreist Barrier=sally_port for porta Flaminia seems completely off, you can walk through the city gate any time, it is no barrier at all.
22021-11-26 12:52dieterdreist You have combined the remaining fragments of the city walls "to form one long one", but they aren't combined, these are all fragments which have been disconnected by cutting through with roads. I am sorry that I have discovered this so late, I will revert this changeset now, thereby r...
55823414
by iLaw
@ 2018-01-28 08:47
12021-11-26 11:47dieterdreist Ciao iLaw,

in questo changeset hai aggiunto "place=square" ad un centro di una rotatoria. Non ha senso il tag "place=square" quando non vi è abbinato un nome (name=*), perché questo tag viene utilizzato per indicare una piazza, un piazzale, un largo, e simili.
...
54399607
by Bec DP
@ 2017-12-06 12:31
12021-11-26 10:47dieterdreist in this changeset the Obelisco Matteiano was relocated from its position to a place where it is not.
Probably no intentional vandalism because review was requested and user has very few edits
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/260770350/history#map=19/41.88577/12.50161
22021-11-26 11:30dieterdreist The other modifications are retagging from leisure=garden to park, this is probably rooted in a misunderstanding of the meaning of the word "garden" in the context of OpenStreetMap, still, not useful.
55244875
by Bec DP
@ 2018-01-07 19:53
12021-11-26 10:58dieterdreist Hai messo un parco sopra un parco, senza ulteriori attributi come "nome" ecc., quindi purtroppo ho dovuto rimuovere il duplicato grezzo.
Ti chiederei gentilmente prima di caricare modifiche di verificarne il senso, avere lo stesso identico oggetto (Parco) mappato due volte per noi è...
112322479
by Eric Bie
@ 2021-10-10 07:14
12021-11-26 08:52dieterdreist Hello,
I have just noticed that you added building=apartments to the Biblioteca della Pontificia Università della Santa Croce in Rome.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/525109737/history

Do you recall how you came to this conclusion?

Cheers,
Martin
22021-11-26 08:56dieterdreist Another question, I also saw that you tagged Haus Sommer at Pariser Platz in Berlin as "apartments". This seems rather strange to me, as "it" once was a bank, then the building got destroyed and after the reunification it was rebuilt, and the reconstruction is still housing a ban...
32021-11-26 09:00dieterdreist And the French Consulate in NYC seems to have been a hotel before: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/266894764
90401885
by marceg16579
@ 2020-09-04 08:10
12021-11-21 00:19dieterdreist Salve, ho notato che hai cambiato il percorso https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/488627565 da footway in pedestrian. Da anni noto che ci sono mappatori a Venezia che eliminano qualsiasi differenziazzione dei percorsi, taggando tutto come pedestrian. Vi chiedo di non farlo, questo percorso come tanti ...
22021-11-21 00:21dieterdreist Tra altro ne abbiamo già parlato tre anni fa: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/50453873
91927638
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2020-10-04 10:34
12021-11-19 15:58dieterdreist Ciao Michele, ho notato che in questo changeset è stato cambiato crossing=traffic_signals in crossing=marked qui: node 304150466. Penso sia una riduzione dell'informazione, perché "marked" può essere qualsiasi segno. Suggerisco di utilizzare "crossing=zebra&q...
113887247
by cris67
@ 2021-11-17 09:08
12021-11-18 13:28dieterdreist Hi, welcome to OpenStreetMap! I noticed you have marked the whole of Villa Ada as building :)
No worries, I have already fixed it, but please be careful when uploading and check the modifications that are shown for something unusual before confirming.
Thank you,
Cheers Martin
47585791
by Heinz_V
@ 2017-04-09 07:18
12021-11-17 13:26dieterdreist Hi, I saw that you removed area=yes from this way: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27591708/history

You should not remove area=yes tags when it isn’t clear from other tags that a closed way is meant to represent an area.
Thank you.
99153744
by user_5359
@ 2021-02-12 06:59
12021-11-16 23:18dieterdreist Hi, I have just noted that you removed the courtyard name with the comment "correct wikipedia notation"
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27591708/
22021-11-17 03:36user_5359
♦19,415
Hi, the main reason why I became aware of this church was quite correctly noted in the change set comment.I have deleted without the additional tag "man_made=courtyard" senseless name in the process, because I probably did not assign the correct priority (have interpreted version 3 as the ...
32021-11-17 13:23dieterdreist Understood. I would not see the name without a typological tag as “senseless”, but rather as incomplete and waiting for someone to amend it. As long as it isn’t wrong we should keep information, even if it is still incomplete or will be filtered out by most current data consumers b...
70952368
by wheelmap_visitor
@ 2019-06-05 11:46
12021-11-16 10:47dieterdreist Hi, I just saw you added wheelchair=no to the main basilica of Rome, San Giovanni in Laterano. I have not been there recently, but I cannot believe that this is true. While not all entrances may be accessible due to stairs, there are 2 main entrances, and I believe at least one is accessible.
Anoth...
75919797
by GBAB
@ 2019-10-19 05:19
12021-11-16 10:12dieterdreist Hi, I just saw you added leisure=garden for a completely paved inner court of an administrative building (Chiostro di San Giovanni in Laterano). I am reverting this to highway=pedestrian area=yes.
22021-11-16 14:09GBAB
♦101
Hello, thank you, you're completely right. I probably confused it with the southern cloistre (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27591708).
99062018
by skylineaq
@ 2021-02-10 19:58
12021-11-15 10:39dieterdreist Ciao skylineaq, in questo changeset hai aggiunto dei tags a Corte dei Conti che in parte avevano senso (attributi che descrivono l'oggetto), ma che hanno duplicato anche il tag "building" che si trova già sui singoli pezzi (La corte dei Conti è composta di più edi...
112937663
by AlCeRoma
@ 2021-10-25 09:30
12021-11-09 12:12dieterdreist Ciao AlCeRoma, ho notato che hai modificato alcuni punti highway=crossing, crossing=traffic_signals in crossing=marked. Non lo fare, in quanto non solo si perdono le informazioni sul incrocio (con semaforo o no, strisce zebra o altro), ma spesso crossing=marked viene interpretato di essere un incroc...
22021-11-09 17:40AlCeRoma
♦9
Ho modificato così perché pensavo che il valore traffic_signals non fosse valido. Poi mi è venuto il dubbio che stessi sbagliando, quindi ho consultato la wiki e ho capito che gli attraversamenti pedonali con semaforo vanno taggati usando quel valore.
Grazie comunque,
Alessio
104463938
by Città di Palmi
@ 2021-05-10 16:20
12021-11-05 12:40dieterdreist Ciao Città di Palmi,

ti vorrei chiedere un favore, potresti disegnare i landuse=residential sul suole che effetivamente viene utilizzato così? Attualmente stai continuando a connettere il landuse con il centro della strada, cosa porta a tanti errori di seguito (cose connesse malame...
52873665
by IraSergeeva
@ 2017-10-12 22:47
12017-11-18 22:24dieterdreist Hi, why do you think Roma Ostiense is light rail?
22017-12-08 01:20dieterdreist or Roma Termini? I believe this is an automated edit, there is no factual background.
32017-12-08 16:35dieterdreist Can you please explain, what your sources are?
42017-12-08 17:54dieterdreist Roma Tiburtina, Orte, ...
I'm fixing the problems as I find them, many main stations which are part of the highspeed network have been downgraded to light rail stations in this changeset. No answer so far...
52021-11-05 11:07dieterdreist Hi, me again. You can explain why you have added the "station"s on Roma-Albano as "light_rail" while the railway value is "rail" and the route relations "train"?
107102883
by andywar65
@ 2021-06-28 17:44
12021-10-29 08:30dieterdreist it seems you have added the Deutsche Schule as residential building?
22021-11-03 14:12andywar65
♦1
Obviously it was a mistake. Thanks for fixing
32021-11-03 22:55dieterdreist you’re welcome :)
75431193
by TWHB
@ 2019-10-08 21:13
12021-10-20 10:37dieterdreist Hi, I just noticed at Piazzale Ostiense you have removed almost all the tags from the way of the city gate Porta Ostiense and have moved it to a node. Can you explain why? To me it seems, a polygon is a better representation for something as large as this historic city gate.
Cheers,
Martin
22021-10-20 10:41dieterdreist Just saw that you also changed building=city_gate to building=yes. Please do not do it, building=yes is clearly worse than building=foo, as the mere presence of the building key already implies "yes" unless the value is "no".
32021-10-20 12:29TWHB
♦11
Hi, I did this because the building itself is a museum (see https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museo_della_Via_Ostiense). In this way the city gate is shown on the city wall itself and the museum is shown on the building.
Greetings,
Tijn
42021-10-20 19:23dieterdreist But the whole building is also a city gate (actually, only a part is museum). The city walls aren’t a just line, arguably the whole gate building is a part of the city walls, in the long run they’ll become polygons as well (because you can walk inside the walls, it is appropriate to have...
37330827
by gnastyle
@ 2016-02-20 15:51
12021-10-04 07:19dieterdreist non tutti gli edifici sono appartamenti, ad esempio la sede ACI è un ufficio
111921808
by FAMx9
@ 2021-09-30 14:56
12021-10-01 21:49dieterdreist se ora è un cantiere sarebbe da mettere il tag landuse=construction alla way di contorno
110683275
by Rinzxc
@ 2021-09-03 15:08
12021-09-27 16:00dieterdreist Ciao Rinzxc, ho notato che hai aggiunto il tag "amenity=place_of_worship" (luogo di culto) al cimitero acattolico di Roma. Il cimitero non è in tutto un luogo di culto, al meno non lo è nel senso del tag place of worship. Ho rimosso il tag.

Saluti e buona mappatura,
Marti...
22021-09-27 16:04dieterdreist hai anche aggiunto "building=yes" sull'area dell'intero cimitero e rimosso il tag "landuse=cemetery" che significa cimitero. Puoi vedere le tue modifiche qui (ad esempio): https://osmhv.openstreetmap.de/changeset.jsp?id=110683275
86352307
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-06-08 11:34
12021-09-27 15:36dieterdreist in this changeset there is retagging from farmland to meadow, but from the aerial imagery this is clearly not a meadow, at least most of it.
91554283
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2020-09-26 14:50
12021-09-27 15:09dieterdreist Ciao Michele, ho notato che hai cambiato il tagging di crossing=traffic_signals in crossing=marked qui:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1986911259
Lo ritengo un errore, perché traffic_signals è molto più specifico che marked (marked non lo consiglio per nessun caso, perch&e...
37928659
by xybot
@ 2016-03-18 21:45
12016-03-20 06:50Omegatherion
♦132
Hallo, in diesem CS wurden diverse Namen von Bushaltestellen und Stromverteilern geändert, bei denen richtigerweise "Str." eingetragen war. Bitte ändere das.

Zudem wurden Nodes editiert, die so seit 2014 bestehen. Hat der Bot neue Regeln bekommen oder lief der seit Jahren nich...
22021-08-25 06:54dieterdreist ebenfalls aktuell im Forum diskutiert: der Name “?” wurde kaputtrepariert.
32021-08-25 06:55dieterdreist Bezug: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=73646
108515557
by mcheck
@ 2021-07-23 22:49
Active block
12021-08-11 12:59dieterdreist Ciao,

abbiamo parlato di queste modifiche in mailing list perché non abbiamo visto questo edificio in nessuna foto aerea:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/966862215


Mi potresti spiegare come hai reperito la geometria?

Grazie,
Martin
106164616
by maramutze2018
@ 2021-06-10 15:27
12021-08-02 14:52dieterdreist Zu einer dieser Änderungen wird gerade hier diskutiert: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=73446
107708455
by MatthieuLyon69
@ 2021-07-09 13:54
12021-07-30 16:41dieterdreist Hi, I have noticed you downgraded this unclassified road to track: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/957977292#map=13/13.5974/4.2020&layers=N
From looking at the map it seems to be the main connection locally, for me this is at least unclassified.
56920260
by rusefkuma
@ 2018-03-06 01:44
Active block
12021-06-22 15:04dieterdreist hi, I just noticed you changed the classification of Via Odescalchi from unclassified to residential, can you explain your reasoning? I would have rather made it tertiary than downgrading it, for me it’s a minor arterial road
106682805
by Martino Scaglione
@ 2021-06-20 22:40
12021-06-21 15:43dieterdreist avere gli stessi valori in name e alt_name mi sembra un errore…
22021-06-21 17:16dieterdreist also see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/94016817
95965478
by wurzelast
@ 2020-12-16 22:06
12021-06-03 19:36Stefan@MUC
♦9
Was ist an der Description und Note von Jonathan Grundmann in Weg https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/367800762/ falsch? Ich bitte um Wiederherstellung der ursprünglichen Inhalte.
22021-06-03 19:59wurzelast
♦1,560
fix Tagging, very long name/description/note, Quelle war #osmi
32021-06-04 11:30Stefan@MUC
♦9
Kannst du bitte in vollständigen deutschen Sätzen antworten? Ich verstehe nicht, was du mir sagen willst.
42021-06-04 11:35wurzelast
♦1,560
OSM Inspector ist dir ein Begriff?
https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/
Unterrubrik Tagging, dort dann
very long name/description/note
52021-06-04 11:50Stefan@MUC
♦9
Das erklärt, wie du den Node gefunden hast. Das erklärt aber nicht, was denn nun an der Information falsch war - das ist meine ursprüngliche Frage. Laut https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:description darf die Description bis zu drei Sätze umfassen. Der von dir entfernte T...
62021-06-04 11:53wurzelast
♦1,560
"Längere Informationen sollten per Referenz zu einer Webseite oder Wikipedia bereitgestellt werden."
72021-06-04 11:58Stefan@MUC
♦9
Richtig, eine Information länger als drei Sätze soll anderweitig bereit gestellt werden. Die eingetragene Information war aber nicht mal halb so lang wie die Maximallänge - und sie hätte auch gekürzt statt komplett entfernt werden können. Ich bitte also um Wiederherstel...
82021-06-04 12:00wurzelast
♦1,560
Gut, dann holen wir zurück.
92021-06-05 13:42dieterdreist +1 für revert. Die Inspector Karten sind ja super, aber nicht immer ist alles falsch was dort hervorgehoben wird. Die maximale Länge von description tags wird über die API m.E. ausreichend limitiert.
102021-06-05 13:44dieterdreist keine description ist sicherlich schlechter als eine zutreffende die etwas länger ist (aber noch im 255 Zeichen (bzw. etwas weniger wegen Sonderzeichen) limit bleibt)
112021-06-05 14:44wurzelast
♦1,560
Im zweiten Blick war die Bearbeitung tatsächlich eher fragwürdig. Ich setz das mal zurück.
122021-06-05 17:49Stefan@MUC
♦9
Vielen Dank! Ja, bei Bedarf kann man ja kürzen bzw. verfeinern - aber ganz ohne inhaltlichen Grund anzugeben einfach zu löschen ist schlecht.
50065209
by Nemo_bis
@ 2017-07-05 18:14
12017-07-05 18:54Constable
♦1,294
Ciao, ho visto che hai importato e rimosso un sacco di fontanelle, il lavoro è finito? chiedo perché allo stato attuale mi sembra che siano state rimossi i nodi che erano etichettati come fontanelle ed al loro posto ne siano comparsi altri che non sono etichettati come amenity=drinking...
22017-07-05 20:05Nemo_bis
♦10
Ciao, sí scusa, non ho finito. Speravo di fare tutto insieme ma non sono stato abbastanza efficiente e sono stato interrotto. :)
32017-07-06 06:02Constable
♦1,294
ok, grazie per la risposta!
Ciao
42017-07-06 06:20Nemo_bis
♦10
Nel frattempo dovrei aver sistemato tutto: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/50067983 Ho anche ri-controllato qualche dozzina di nodi sulla mappa e mi sembrano tutte giuste (molte me le ricordo persino). Non ricordo mai però quante fontanelle ci siano in Duca d'Aosta... Almeno due,...
52017-07-06 06:27Constable
♦1,294
Ciao, sono mesi e mesi che non ci passo ma dovrebbero essere quattro da quel che ricordo.
62021-05-19 17:44dieterdreist il tag website dovrebbe descrivere il feature, non l’operator. Sarebbero da rimuovere…
72021-05-19 18:03Nemo_bis
♦10
E che sito potrà mai esserci per descrivere una fontanella, se non il sito di chi la gestisce? Per esempio andando nel sito di MM si trovano informazioni sull'acqua che esce da quelle fontanelle e scavando un po' si può trovare quale è la pressione prevista, la manuten...
82021-05-19 18:07dieterdreist per una fontanella forse no, ma non si dice con i tag che sono fontanelle, sono "fonti di acqua potabile" e con questo tag possono essere fontanelle, sorgenti, rubinetti, ecc.
4 anni fa ancora non c'era, adesso abbiamo la chiave "fountain" per specificare meglio.

Per me,...
92021-05-19 19:33Nemo_bis
♦10
"The website=* tag can be used to provide the full URL to the official website for the related features" https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:website

È il sito ufficiale di quella fonte di acqua potabile, quindi decisamente corretto.
102021-05-20 06:51dieterdreist Se fosse un link specifico (un numero, la fontanella specifica) sarebbe pertinente, così invece è sufficiente la source:url che da tutte le info necessarie, insieme al tag operator. Website non aggiunge niente perché se vai su quel sito la pagina dove ti porta è troppo ge...
112021-05-20 09:25Nemo_bis
♦10
Quindi per esempio rimuoveresti anche tutti i collegamenti a https://www.bikemi.com/ da singole stazioni, il collegamento al sito della catena da ogni singolo supermercato, e cosí via? Forse hai ragione ma ci sarebbero parecchie migliaia di nodi da cambiare, forse ti conviene proporlo in http...
122021-05-28 23:23dieterdreist scusami, non avevo visto la risposta. Sì, rimuoverei in generale il tag website quando è generico per l'operator e non ha informazioni specifici per l'oggetto che viene taggato.
132021-05-29 07:00Nemo_bis
♦10
Allora mi sembra decisamente una cosa che dovresti proporre in una discussione piú generale, per esempio nel wiki.
104361466
by Città di Palmi
@ 2021-05-08 11:40
12021-05-28 22:49dieterdreist Ciao Città di Palmi, ho notato che stai disegnando le aree sempre troppo grandi, lasciandole finire al centro della strada. Così metà della strada diventa residenziale, o industriale ecc.
Per esempio questa area ad uso industriale si mangia metà del GRA: https://www.ope...
104361859
by Città di Palmi
@ 2021-05-08 11:49
12021-05-28 22:42dieterdreist se questo fosse una fabbrica non sarebbe da togliere man_made=works. Per aggiungere landuse=industrial non c'è bisogno di rimuove altri tags (se fossero validi).
36610561
by dieterdreist
@ 2016-01-16 09:34
12021-05-07 21:26sorcrosc
♦412
I tag addr: su questa way
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/251509917
credo che andavano messi invece su questo nodo
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3949560017

Ciao
22021-05-07 22:42dieterdreist grazie, hai ragione, questo è un problema di GoMap!! che da tanto fastidio: quando selezioni un nodo in un way senza tags e apri la finestra tags, ti cambia in automatico la selezione al way. Oramai mi sono malapena abituato, ma all’inizio non ne sapevo ancora.
32021-05-07 22:47dieterdreist È peggio ancora: se fai copy + paste su un nodo, ma il way non ha tags, ti fa il paste sul way nonostante avessi selezionato il node.
42021-05-08 12:52sorcrosc
♦412
Grazie. Ce ne sono altri due che ho visto su OSM Inspector:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/142546202
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/230742473
52021-05-08 19:40dieterdreist grazie a te, fissati :)
95057977
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-11-30 16:59
12021-05-05 20:24dieterdreist blatant vandalism. Is already reverted.
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Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/95057977
51837500
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2017-09-08 09:19
12021-03-31 11:45dieterdreist Ciao Michele, ho visto soltanto adesso che hai rimosso la sigla "GRA" dal GRA (ref). In questo modo, "GRA" non si trova più con la ricerca e non si vede da nessuna parte della mappa, solo nella realtà della segnaletica.
Il ref "ufficiale" "A90" ...
101418367
by Pedro Primor
@ 2021-03-20 21:18
12021-03-31 11:35dieterdreist Hi Pedro, I have seen you have moved the Rome node to piazza Navone. From my point of view, this is quite a bold move, relocating the place=city node of a major city with a millenial tradition without engaging with the local community first. I would be interesting in learning about the motives, and ...
87036101
by Qwave
@ 2020-06-23 12:53
12021-03-09 23:54dieterdreist Hi, ich sehe gerade dass Du den Namen von der Olgastraße entfernt hast. Wieso?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/147594400
22021-03-10 09:18Qwave
♦22
Hallo,
dieses ist ja nicht die offizielle Straße, sondern eine private Grundstückszufahrt zu den Gebäuden 2-4. Sie gehört nicht der Stadt (vgl. Flurstück Layer des online Stadtplans) und ist daher nicht von der Stadt mit einem offiziellem Namen versehen. Vielleicht wä...
32021-03-10 11:56dieterdreist danke für das aktuelle Bild, ich kenne die Stelle gut. Bin mir allerdings nicht ganz sicher, ob es wirklich komplett eine Privatstraße ist, abgesehen vom letzen Stück entlang der Nummer 4, dort ist ja auch ein Tor (das immer offen steht bzw. stand). Ähnlich auf die Situation ent...
100093213
by Dimitar155
@ 2021-02-27 11:28
12021-02-27 12:15Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
You're breaking perfectly working tags. It is clearly stated in wiki that waterway=riverbank is a perfectly working tag which should not be changed. Reverted changes in Lithuania.
22021-02-27 17:01Dimitar155
♦662
How am I breaking "perfectly working tags" and what even is "perfectly working tags"? There is no such definition in the wiki.
32021-02-27 17:12Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
The point is you are not "upgrading" any tags. You're just doing a pointless change removing tags which are perfectly fine. Therefore you're not doing anything good to this project.
42021-02-27 17:13Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
And it is also said in wiki that water tags should NOT be changed just for the sake of changing it. You're not doing any improvement to the map, just going around and changing to tags with the same meaning.
52021-02-27 17:24Dimitar155
♦662
Since when "guarding" a country from other editors is considered good for OSM?
62021-02-27 17:30Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
Since some people start "fixing" stuff which is not broken before getting to know OSM.
72021-02-27 17:49Dimitar155
♦662
But you are fixing stuff that are not broken..
82021-02-27 17:54Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
waterway=riverbank is a perfectly woriking tag and there is no "upgrade" for it.
92021-02-27 17:59Dimitar155
♦662
natural=water + water=river is also perfectly working tag. Why wouldn't you want to use it?
102021-02-27 18:11Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
The original is working very good and the new one does not add anything beneficial. General rule: do not touch things which work well and which you do not understand. Do not change things just in order to do some "change".
112021-02-27 18:23Dimitar155
♦662
I see that you haven't seen what I've done in my changesets. I fix the numerous mistakes that were made years ago and no one has fixed them (like disconnected ways, accidentally moved nodes in ways, duplicated ways/nodes etc.).
122021-02-27 18:41Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
No, you have changed a lot of objects which you have not fixed. And anyway, at the sime time you've decided that you, after spending less than a year in OSM, will force everybody else to use duplicate water tags instead of the ones we used for more than 15 years? Why?
132021-02-27 18:54Dimitar155
♦662
There could be things that I have missed and there could be things that I can't fix since the imagery is not the best in some places. About your last question: it's not my decision. It is a project ran by another user. The goal is to unify the tagging system so that data consumers don'...
142021-02-27 19:01Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
And thus you're doing damage to data consumers, who are using waterway=riverbank for 15 years or more. Ok, this has already wasted too much of my time. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING in Lithuania. We want data QUALITY, not chaos created by clueless "unifiers".
152021-02-27 19:06Dimitar155
♦662
These data consumers won't be here for a lot of time if they haven't changed anything in 15 years. If things don't change, this project will become even bigger chaos. Also you aren't the person to tell me what to do or not to do.
162021-02-27 19:13Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
Data consumers do not want change for the sake of change. The new schema you're forcing does not have ANY advantages. You will not be able to force such changes on larger countries as they also oppose such unprofessional actions. We are here for way more than you have been here and probably wil...
172021-02-27 19:22Dimitar155
♦662
The only data consumer that doesn't want the change is you. The new schema does not have any advantages FOR YOU. The world DOES NOT spin around you or Lithuania. I do not enforce these changes since anyone can revert anything if they so desire. I don't know who are you referring by "w...
182021-02-27 19:27Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
Eventually you will grow up and learn not to point fingers when you enter the house. Or maybe not :-)
192021-02-27 19:33Dimitar155
♦662
Are there any other countries that are guarded by people like you? Are there any projects except yours that rely on this exact tagging and doesn't want to support the newer standard? I don't think that any company or project that doesn't want to improve over time will not survive for...
202021-02-27 19:38Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
There are pretty large countries where OSM users also think that duplicate water schema is not only giving no advantage, but has disadvantage from cartographic and mapping perspectives. Bye.
212021-02-27 19:42Dimitar155
♦662
This is what we are trying to solve. We want to remove waterway=riverbank in order to not have duplicate water schema. I don't see where is the problem.
222021-02-27 19:46Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
Don't you think it is quite stupid to INTRODUCE duplicate schema and then try to "SOLVE" the duplication? This whole initiative of new water schema was introduced by nerds and is only pushed by nerds, it was never supported by anybody doing serious stuff.
232021-02-27 19:51Dimitar155
♦662
I haven't introduced this schema. The problem wouldn't even exist if by creating the new schema, the old one was deprecated. Unfortunately it wasn't done, but if it doesn't get done now it won't get done.
242021-02-27 19:54Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
Google, young soldier, you will find way too many discussions about this same topic. And don't try to find one single truth as there can not be one.
252021-02-28 11:39GoodClover
♦43
All good data consumers support both schemas, as they have both existed for quite some time.
If you're saying that there are some that don't support natural=water + water=river then I greatly urge you to add support for both schemas.
There are large parts of the map that only use the new...
262021-02-28 11:42GoodClover
♦43
And if you're claiming you're opinion is more valid because you've got an older account please stop - that's bogus.
272021-02-28 12:05Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
I'm saying that waterway=riverbank is a perfectly working schema and changing it to a duplicate one just for the sake of changing is stupid and pointless. Better do something useful.
282021-02-28 13:06GoodClover
♦43
In that case reverting every time someone does it is equally as pointless - especially when people also fix errors
292021-02-28 13:13Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
Lets call DWG and see what they think about doing semi-automated changes of tagging when it is clearly stated in wiki as well as stated multiple times on multiple mailing lists that this SHOULD NOT BE DONE. Changeset comment is not the place to discuss the tagging schemes, currently BOTH are valid a...
302021-02-28 13:27Friendly_Ghost
♦636
I'm just joining this discussion to call for more politeness and understanding to each other. I'm not going to point fingers at any person or action, but this behaviour is not what the OSM community is about.
312021-03-05 10:37dieterdreist It is one thing to add (alternative) tags (possible as long as different keys are used) and another to remove tags without a need (not necessary if they use a different key). Edits like this, performed on a bigger scale (e.g. also in Italy) must be discussed before they are executed.
Cheers,
Marti...
322021-03-05 19:35GoodClover
♦43
It is documented
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:ZeLonewolf/Procedure/River_modernization
However Lithuania is sticking to the old tagging, so it shouldn't be touched
332021-03-05 20:26Tomas Straupis
♦1,956
Wiki has always been, is now, and will probably always stay a place for OPINION, not for authoritative stuff.
Brian (ZeLonewolf) or Mateusz are lacking basic experience but baking huge amounts of pages/changes of low quality on wiki which few people actually read. Number of wikians agreeing with t...
342021-04-11 13:55woodpeck
♦2,431
With my DWG hat on:

1. User ZeLoneWolf had initially not taken enough care to make sure that his approach isn't used in areas where it was not discussed with the community. This has meanwhile been remedied on the respective wiki page.
2. User Dimitar155 has not used enough care in following...
100292747
by nifan
@ 2021-03-02 16:24
12021-03-03 10:23corfede
♦300
Ciao nifan, con questo e l'altro changeset hai modificato decine di place promuovendoli a town, indicando come motivo che si tratta di comuni autonomi. Non è però un metodo condiviso, infatti nella wiki (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Key:place) è riportata una clas...
22021-03-03 11:20dieterdreist per me il revert è anche giustificato dal fatto che si tratta di modifiche massicce. Sono "solo" 65 nodi, ma ad un elemento molto importante come un centro abitato, dove praticamente ogni singolo caso va discusso, perché influisce in maniera importante alla mappa, e perch&eac...
32021-03-03 13:56fayor
♦125
È evidente che nifan ha equivocato sul senso dell'eccezione presente sulla wiki sul place village: "Centri abitati da 200 a 10mila abitanti. Eccezioni: comuni autonomi e capoluoghi di comuni
sparsi.”
L'eccezione si riferisce ai centri al di sotto del limite minimo di 20...
99999999
by AE35
@ 2021-02-25 19:29
12021-02-25 19:30Kovoschiz
♦2,543
Thanks and congratulations on changeset #99999999
22021-02-25 19:31fghj753
♦53
nice
32021-02-25 19:34GoodClover
♦43
99999999 is definitely a cooler number than 100000000
42021-02-25 19:37Mxdanger
♦77
I agree.
52021-02-25 19:44Palolo
♦457
Missed 100m by a fraction of a second.
62021-02-25 21:27Janjko
♦86
Very good changeset, thank you very much!
72021-02-26 05:13Magick93
♦35
As good as getting the 100 millionth Changeset. GET!
82021-02-27 10:13NM$L
♦83
哈哈,可惜差了一点啊😂
92021-03-02 22:55dieterdreist congrats!
102023-04-11 00:51Mason1007
♦7
moments before an achievement
54071296
by gnastyle
@ 2017-11-25 12:51
12021-03-01 09:46dieterdreist Ciao Gnastyle, ho visto che hai taggato la chiesa evangelica con denomination "evangelical", e vorrei chiedere conferma, perché probabilmente il valore giusto sarebbe "protestant" (generico) oppure qualcosa di più specifico come "lutheran", etc. Il termine...
99598772
by Antonio DB
@ 2021-02-19 13:49
12021-02-21 11:31dieterdreist Gentile Antonio,
benvenuto in OSM. Ho notato che ti sei inscritto ed hai inserito delle cose, ottimo. Per il giardino condominiale hai utilizzato l'etichetta "landuse=meadow". Questo significa "prato" e viene utilizzato in contesto rurale (agricoltura). Se ti posso suggerir...
97794533
by fede6615
@ 2021-01-19 22:09
12021-02-10 23:22dieterdreist con questa modifica sono stati cancellati tutte le tag che descrivevano il parco di Veio, e sono stato sostituiti con "suolo ad uso residenziale". E' una modifica apposita o per sbaglio?
22021-02-17 22:53fede6615
♦3
Effettivamente ho creato suoli ad uso residenziali, perchè come puoi vedere dalle immagini satelliutari ci sono case, ti posso dire che sono di zona e li ci sono effettivamente centri abitati (Con rispettivi nomi). Si stava anche già discutendo su come cambiare questa cosa, non sappiam...
32021-02-18 23:39dieterdreist Ciao Fede,
ti consiglio di aggiungere piccoli blocchi di isolati, senza connettere i poligoni con le strade, in modo da avere "il suolo privato, residenziale" / le abitazioni compresi i giardini e le aree interne, e mettendo i tag "landuse=residential" dove ci sono abitazioni, i...
98712394
by fede6615
@ 2021-02-04 14:56
12021-02-10 23:30dieterdreist ci sarà un motivo per la cancellazione di 143 nodi ed un percorso in versione 4 che vorresti spiegare?
22021-02-17 22:55fede6615
♦3
il percorso era solo una specie di "Contorno" Della zona abitata via di Valle Muricana, non esiste veramente. Magari poteva essere una zona ad uso residenziale, ma l'area è già stata fatta, quindi mi sembrava inutile mantenere essa modifica.
32021-02-17 23:00fede6615
♦3
perchè hai aggiunto "Possible vandalism" Sono solo un principiante di openstreetmap, mica voglio cancellare tutte le strade di Roma😂😂
42021-02-18 23:28dieterdreist scusami, se non sei un vandalo allora benvenuto! Abbiamo recentemente avuto un problema con una persona che ha aggiunto qualcosa e cancellato altre cose come foreste, landuse=residential o campi agricoli, sempre usando commenti per le modifiche senza senso/non pertinenti, e ho avuto il sospetto che ...
97853658
by fede6615
@ 2021-01-20 17:30
12021-02-10 23:32dieterdreist anche qui hai cancellato dei percorsi lunghi (tutti parte del confine del parco di Veio).
98780999
by fede6615
@ 2021-02-05 16:52
12021-02-10 23:20dieterdreist Ciao Fede, ti vorrei chiedere di mettere dei commenti più lunghi e significativi per descrivere le modifiche che hai fatto. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Good_changeset_comments

Un saluto,
Martin
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by David Hubert
@ 2021-01-30 14:22
12021-02-10 07:05FreiTal
♦60
Findest du es richtig website=* zu löschen?
Es ist immer noch ein gültiger Schlüssel. das nun das contact:*-Schema durchgesetzt wird finde ich nicht richtig. Viele Abfragen auf website=* laufen nun ins Leere.
z.B. Wohnanlage "Alte Schule"
Auch bei phone=* zu contact:phone...
22021-02-10 08:01David Hubert
♦4
Es gibt 2 Lager: Die pro contact: und die dagegen, und da ist keine Einigung in Sicht.
Aber Daten doppelt zu speichern geht gegen jedes Prinzip der Informationstechnik.
Eine korrekte Abfrage berücksichtigt beide Tags, aber was soll angezeigt werden, wenn es beide gibt? 2 Webseiten? Die lä...
32021-02-10 09:30FreiTal
♦60
Da es keine Einigung gibt, sollte beides erhalten bleiben.
Die ganzen alte Abfragen bringen jetzt Fehler, die nicht nötig sind.
42021-02-10 09:32David Hubert
♦4
Hallo,
Um welche Anfragen handelt es sich denn? Welche App etc?
52021-02-10 09:43Negreheb
♦263
Im Forum wurde ein Thread eröffnet, vielleicht dort weiter diskutieren. Meine Meinung steht auch dort. Link: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=818370
62021-02-10 09:47Negreheb
♦263
@FreiTal
Das nächste mal weise doch deinen Gesprächpartner bitte auch darauf hin, dass du im Forum einen Thread eröffnet hast, damit er auch die Chance hat, sich dort zu verteidigen.
72021-02-10 09:49dieterdreist Da es keine Einigung gibt, sollte "website" auf jeden Fall erhalten bleiben, das Umtaggen würde ich als halb-automatischen Edit sehen, über den abgestimmt werden muss. Grundsätzlich würde ich es eher anders rum umtaggen, von contact:website nach "website", wei...
82021-02-10 09:49SafetyIng
♦348
@FreiTal - auf welches Objekt beziehst du dich denn hier?
Also die Änderungen, die ich gesehen habe - dann geht es ja hier um Facebook.
Facebook-Seiten sind keine Webseite.....
92021-02-10 10:00Negreheb
♦263
Bitte im Forum nachlesen:
Maproulette geht es explizit darum website=*facebook* nach contact:facebook=* umzutaggen. Und das ist völlig korrekt und da muss dann website=* auch nicht bestehen bleiben. Bitte im Forum weiter diskutieren, damit das nicht so verteilt ist. (Meine Meinung zumindest)
51835249
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2017-09-08 08:02
12019-05-16 16:17dieterdreist Ciao Michele, ho solo ora visto che hai rimosso ref=GRA e messo A90, ma questo ref era già lì nella chiave official_ref, avevamo lasciato GRA perchè la segnaletica continua a indicare GRA.
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22021-02-10 08:52dieterdreist Nessuna risposta. Rinnovo la richiesta, che senso ha ripetere "A90" due volte e far sparire "GRA", il quale ancora ad oggi si trova nel territorio? Ti chiederei gentilmente di rimettere ref=GRA per il GRA, in quanto questo è la dicitura che si trova sui cartelli.
Grazie,\...
97211399
by mr4703
@ 2021-01-09 12:55
12021-01-10 07:30PT-53
♦3,642
Hallo mr4703,
Willkommen bei OSM.

Du hast an diesem Gebäude
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/159327802/history
das Merkmal
amenity=fire_station
gelöscht und das Merkmal
building=yes
abgeändert in
building=fire_station.

building=fire_station sagt nur aus, daß diese...
22021-01-10 12:00mr4703
♦2
Hallo PT-53,
Danke für Deine Willkommensworte.

Die Änderung musst Du nicht für mich übernehmen, da ich keinen Grund hierfür sehe und Deinen Argumenten nicht folgende kann.

Du verweisst auf die Seite https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:amenity=fire%20station?use...
32021-01-10 12:39PT-53
♦3,642
Hallo mr4703,
Du hast vollkommen recht, daß es noch besser ist, das gesamte Feuerwehr-Gelände mit
amenity=fire_station
zu markieren. Das hast Du aber (noch ?) nicht gemacht, so daß die Information "hier ist ein Feuerwehr-Standort" derzeit fehlt.
Mangels örtlich...
42021-01-10 19:32mr4703
♦2
Hallo,

zu Deiner Aussage:

"Dein Argument, daß in ganz Deutschland in einem Feuerwehrhaus immer auch eine Feuerwehr untergebracht ist, ist in der realen Welt sicher richtig.
Daraus aber abzuleiten, daß das Gebäude-Merkmal
building=fire_station
ausreichend ist um >>...
52021-01-10 19:57PT-53
♦3,642
Ich wiederhole:
building=fire_stattion
sagt nur aus, daß das Gebäude für eine Feuerwehr-Station gebaut wurde / geeignet ist.
Das Merkmal, daß dort eine Feuerwehr untergebracht ist, ist
amenity=fire_station
Ohne amenity=fiee_station gibt es dort - in der OSM-Datenbank - ke...
62021-01-11 08:17mr4703
♦2
Ich glaube hier liegt ein Missverständniss vor. Auf der englischen Seite des Key:building ist zu lesen
"A building which houses fire fighting equipment ready for use."

Die deutsche Übersetzung scheint mir hier nicht aussagekräftig genug, da sie lediglich von einem "...
72021-01-11 08:51PT-53
♦3,642
Hallo mr4703,
ich habe zu unserer Diskussion eine Anfrage im OSM-Forum eingestellt:
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=814594#p814594

Es wäre gut, wenn Du Dich dort an der folgenden Diskussion beteiligen würdest.
Du kannst Dich mit Deinem OSM-Account im OSM-Forum einl...
82021-01-11 09:26dieterdreist ich kenne zumindest ein prominentes Feuerwehrgebäude in Deutschland, das nicht als Feuerwache genutzt wird: das Gebäude das für die Werksfeuerwehr in Weil am Rhein auf dem Vitra Firmengelände von Zaha Hadid errichtet wurde.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=vitra+fire+station+in+weil+am...
92021-01-11 10:26mr4703
♦2
das ist zwar ein Gebäude für die Feuerwehr, jedoch nicht als Nutzung "Feuerwache". Hier wäre dann die Nutzung z. B. Büro oder Lager, etc.
Somit z. B.
-Grundstück=> amenity=fire_station
-Gebäude A=> building=office
-Gebäude B => building=fire_...
102021-01-11 10:27seewäldler
♦169
Die Jugendherberge in Plauen ist auch in einem schönen Feuerwehrhaus, komplett mit Schläuche-Trocken-Turm und großen Toren mit alten Feuerwehrauto dahinter.
112021-01-11 10:54mr4703
♦2
@seewälder
für diesen Fall müsste doch
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:building:part

genutzt werden um die unterscheidung der unterschiedlichen Nutzungen zu präzisieren. Richtig?
Und dann sind wir wieder bei meinem Gedanken.
122021-01-11 11:13smootheFiets
♦178
Natürlich gehört hier zwingend eine amenity hin. Ob aufs Gebäude oder Gelände ist zweitrangig. So funktioniert das Tagging auf OSM nun einmal. Ich verstehe nicht, dass es darüber eine Diskussion gibt.
132021-01-11 11:20PT-53
♦3,642
Wird das Gebäude in Pfullendorf ausschließlich durch die Feuerwehr genutzt oder gibt es weitere "Nutzer" ?


Wenn "ein" Gebäude unterschiedlich genutzt wird, kann das Gebäude - sofern die exakte Ausdehnung der unterschiedlichen Nutzungsarten bekannt ist - ...
142021-01-12 08:08PT-53
♦3,642
Hallo mr4703,
schön daß Du das Merkmal amenity=fire_station wieder ergänzt hast.
Eine entspr. Rückmeldung wäre aber auch angemessen gewesen.
Grüße
152021-01-13 01:03dieterdreist zum Thema building und building:part, das ist eigentlich ganz einfach: beide tags beschreiben nur das Gebäude, nicht die Nutzung darin. Für Nutzer braucht man noch andere tags, am besten auf eigenen Objekten (z.B. nodes). Nutzer haben tags wie amenity, office, shop, craft, etc.
162021-01-13 07:54mr4703
♦2
Ich möchte nochmals meine Anmerkung vom 11-1-21 8:17 wiederholen:

"Ich glaube hier liegt ein Missverständniss vor. Auf der englischen Seite des Key:building ist zu lesen
"A building which houses fire fighting equipment ready for use."

Die deutsche Übersetzung sch...
172021-01-13 08:03PT-53
♦3,642
Hallo mr4703,
ich würde es sehr begrüßen, wenn Du diesen Kommentar im OSM-Forum posten würdest. Dort lesen wesentlich mehr Mapper mit und ist somit besser geeignet solche grundsätzlichen Diskussionen zu führen.
Grüße
182021-01-13 09:32dieterdreist ich habe den engl. Wikieintrag unter key:building repariert und dem Eintrag tag|building|fire_station angepasst. Der building tag ist immer auf Gebäude bezogen und sagt nie etwas darüber aus, wer das Gebäude aktuell nutzt. Eine ehemalige Feuerwache erhält denselben building tag w...
192021-01-20 07:49mr4703
♦2
Hallo dieterdreist,
deine Ergänzungen des "engl. Wikieintrag unter key:building" kann ich nicht finden. Die letzte Änderung ist auf den 14.12.20 datiert.
202021-01-20 10:41dieterdreist huch, keine Ahnung wie das passiert ist, habe jetzt an verschiedener Stelle Ergänzungen vorgenommen...
92277188
by Matlux
@ 2020-10-10 14:21
12021-01-16 13:32SomeoneElse
♦13,390
Please don't use the live OSM database for testing - search the wiki for "sandbox" for various testing options
Best Regards,
Andy
22021-01-16 13:55dieterdreist too late, wanted to say the same 🍑
97223122
by sorcrosc
@ 2021-01-09 18:00
12021-01-15 18:09dieterdreist GRAZIE! Sei un grande!
87520880
by Adamant1
@ 2020-07-04 01:57
12021-01-12 13:23dieterdreist strange, another town where you removed an amenity=hospice tag? There is no reason to remove it, you did not set a different amenity tag. I believe this is part of a disguised undiscussed edit.
22021-01-12 20:46Adamant1
♦222
Oh goody, are we back to the false accusations of "disguised undiscussed edits" again? This is a part of the same exact supposedly "disguised" edits you and SomeoneElse accused me of before that you never provided any evidence for, that went know where, Woodpeck said I didn'...
32021-01-13 07:51PT-53
♦3,642
Hallo Adamant1,
aus der History ergibt sich eindeutig, daß Du das Merkmal
amenity=hospice
gelöscht und dafür das Merkmal
healthcare=hospice
eingetragen hast.
Bei uns ist es üblich beide Merkmale zu verwenden! Bitte beachte dies und nimm Deine Löschung zurück.
G...
42021-01-13 07:53Adamant1
♦222
Sorry, but I don't speak German, Dutch, or whatever language that is.
52021-01-13 07:59Adamant1
♦222
Never mind. I used Google translate. I disagree that it costumery to use two tags for the exact same thing on a POI. The Wiki says as much and I've had multiple conversations where people have told me so. Especially in cases where "newer", more widely accepted tags come along and mor...
62021-01-13 08:04Adamant1
♦222
That said, as I've said already, just now and six months ago when this originally came up, people are free to this however they want and I could really give a crap how it's tagged. I'm not "withdrawing my deletion" though. Whatever that means. Just because people like you an...
72021-01-13 08:44dieterdreist Adamant, I take back the "disguised", and I beg your pardon for having forgotten that we have already talked about it. Still, there clearly is an issue, you are remotely editing stuff in an area which you do not know, removing tags that locals have set, without giving a clear reason. Which...
82021-01-13 08:50dieterdreist Btw: the tag has almost zero uses because you and others have removed them in the past months. By the time you removed it, there were still much more than there are now.
You are right that we could just add the tag back, but we are having this discussion here because you are a very active mapper a...
92021-01-13 08:55Adamant1
♦222
People remotely change and remove tags all the time. Almost every edit in OSM is exactly that. It's only an issue in this case because your making it one.

In this case, as I already told you on the Wiki, which you've seemed to ignore for whatever reason, I looked around the website and...
102021-01-13 08:55Adamant1
♦222
"Something that was already resolved.
112021-01-13 08:56Adamant1
♦222
"Your not raising awareness about anything
122021-01-13 08:59Adamant1
♦222
Also, if you want to go with the nativist "only tag where you live" crap, cool. You, Polar Bearing, SomeoneElse, Woodpeck, and all the other European mappers that keep mapping around America and telling us America's how to map things, usually rather condescendingly I might add, can st...
132021-01-13 09:41dieterdreist I do not say: only map where you are on the ground, although I believe it is the best. I say do not remove tags from objects, without further discussion with the local community, in places which you do not know and where you do not know the community. Adding things from aerial imagery bears some ris...
142021-01-13 09:50Adamant1
♦222
Cool if that's your standard. That doesn't mean it's anyone else's standard or that there's anything with not doing it "your" way. As I said, plenty of people tag things based what they read about a business it's website. For instance, I highly doubt the vast ...
152021-01-13 09:52Adamant1
♦222
BTW, it should obvious that the "one the ground rule" means things have to ground verifiable. Not that "on the ground" is the only way people can add or edit things.
162021-01-13 09:52dieterdreist See, you write
"People remotely change and remove tags all the time. Almost every edit in OSM is exactly that. It's only an issue in this case because your making it one.

In this case, as I already told you on the Wiki, which you've seemed to ignore for whatever reason, I looked a...
172021-01-13 09:56dieterdreist the "ground" does not tell you whether amenity or healthcare is more appropriate, and whether one of them must be removed or both could be kept (why not?). Being on the ground means you know the general setting, what is customary, the local culture, language etc., requirements to really pa...
182021-01-13 10:08Adamant1
♦222
Since when does every single edit someone makes need to be discussed before they make it? You people act like anything that doesn't involve a ton of graveling to a mailing list before hand isn't valid. No matter how biennial the edit is. Yet, most of the time none of you "things shoul...
192021-01-13 10:09Adamant1
♦222
Especially because pretty much every disagreement can be resolved without needing to take it to that level.
202021-01-13 10:29dieterdreist "Since when does every single edit someone makes need to be discussed before they make it?" - while it would be nice when you actually __remove__ what others have bothered to add, it is not strictly a requirement, I agree. When you actually go out and do several of these removals in differ...
212021-01-14 23:09Adamant1
♦222
The problem with the witch hunting way of doing this is that you treat people like they are doing something wrong or against the guidelines. Not in a way that doesn't fit your personal preference of what would be "nice" to do. There's plenty of things I think it would be "ni...
87481796
by Adamant1
@ 2020-07-03 05:37
12021-01-12 13:26dieterdreist strange, another town where you removed an amenity=hospice tag? There is no reason to remove it, you did not set a different amenity tag. I believe this is part of a disguised undiscussed edit.
87520980
by Adamant1
@ 2020-07-04 02:10
12021-01-12 13:25dieterdreist strange, another town where you removed an amenity=hospice tag? There is no reason to remove it, you did not set a different amenity tag. I believe this is part of a disguised undiscussed edit.
87520870
by Adamant1
@ 2020-07-04 01:56
12021-01-12 13:18dieterdreist Hi, I noticed you removed the amenity=hospice tag. Can you explain the reasoning?
71990985
by Komplekx
@ 2019-07-07 20:20
12021-01-12 13:10dieterdreist Hi, habe gesehen dass Du mit dem großen Besen da durch gegangen bist. Wieso wurde der building:levels tags vom Audimax entfernt?
96484112
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-12-27 13:28
12021-01-05 13:38dieterdreist always the same scheme: your representation is "better", this update again removed a lot of detail in favor of a medium scale generalization which could be automatically constructed from the details if somebody wanted. revert.
96484414
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-12-27 13:36
12021-01-05 13:36dieterdreist any explanation why your representation is "better"?
96500538
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-12-27 22:23
12020-12-28 09:44Cascafico
♦577
Un mappatore prima di te ha speso il suo tempo per cliccare 568 volte su una foto aerea per dettagliare delle aree. Prima di cancellare tutto il suo lavoro, hai pensato di consultarlo?
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22021-01-05 13:33dieterdreist another place where Città dei Palmi has deleted detailed landuse and has replaced it with a questionable polygon that errateously contains a lot of different landuse like landuse=highway and landuse=railway. Revert.
96500890
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-12-27 22:37
12021-01-05 13:27dieterdreist better church representation and also deleting a natural=wood for no reason?
96821705
by Città di Palmi
@ 2021-01-02 19:23
12021-01-05 12:41dieterdreist accurate geometry of way 564140923 deleted without any mention in the comment or reasoning.
96822096
by Città di Palmi
@ 2021-01-02 19:34
12021-01-05 12:40dieterdreist another example of detailed landuse replaced by a gigantic and untrue landuse=meadow. Please stop replacing detailed landuse. Please check the meaning of landuse=meadow.
96919180
by Città di Palmi
@ 2021-01-04 15:38
12021-01-05 12:34dieterdreist Buongiorno Città di Palmi, ho notato che in questo changeset hai cancellato una serie di alberi che sembra ci siano. Vorrei far notare che l'inserimento di un natural=tree_row non comporta l'eliminazione di singoli alberi.

Un saluto,
Martin

PS: Ti chiedo di essere più ...
96935969
by damianeue
@ 2021-01-04 22:25
12021-01-04 22:39dieterdreist Why did you remove the names from the sidewalks?
22021-01-04 22:40damianeue
♦112
Because the sidewalks themselves don't have a specific name
32021-01-04 23:00dieterdreist thank you for the discussion on the Italian telegram channel.
42021-01-05 10:03SekeRob
♦1,435
Bus stops have names (that of the street they are on, in pescara including the civic number the are at), it's a specific question in the Streetcomplete app and used as an identifier in a route relation. Please put it back.
52021-01-05 10:13damianeue
♦112
Essendo quella fermata nello specifico un capolinea il nome della fermata è quello della destinazione dell'autobus (non mi sembra che le fermate al Terminal degli autobus di Pescara abbiano come nome Corso Vittorio Emanuele II), io il nome l'avevo messo ma è stato modificato,...
62021-01-05 10:34dieterdreist non sono del posto, ma per le fermate (compresi i capolinea) dovrebbe essere semplice trovare il nome: c’è scritto sul palo/cartello. Invece qualora ci fossero varianti nel orario stampato/in rete, quel nome va in “ref_name”
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/ref_name
72021-01-06 11:06SekeRob
♦1,435
On removing sidewalk names, removing other peoples contribution carefully reconsider: Quote from Wiki "A drawback of this approach is that acquiring a name of the associated street in automated way is challenging. Some mappers therefore add name or street:name tags copying the name of the stree...
95383858
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-12-06 22:49
12020-12-21 22:46dieterdreist vandalism
22021-01-03 02:14sorcrosc
♦412
Assurdo. Lo hai già segnalato?
32021-01-03 12:09dieterdreist sì, tempo fa alla DWG che ha emesso un 0day block:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/4647
72084514
by dieterdreist
@ 2019-07-10 08:51
12020-12-20 14:18dktue
♦208
Sollte man die Stadttore wirklich mappen? Sie existieren ja nicht mehr.
22020-12-22 00:12dieterdreist als Tore existieren sie nur noch als „Echo“/Spuren, im Sinne dass sich die Stadt (Straßen) danach orientiert, aber unter den Tübingern existieren sie als Orte durchaus. „Lass uns am Haagtor treffen“ versteht jeder...
32020-12-22 13:59dktue
♦208
Wäre es da nicht besser den Ort einfach als Lokalnamen (wie auch immer zu Taggen) einzutragen? Es ist ja de facto kein Tor mehr da, was man aber nach aktuellem Mapping durchaus vermuten könnte.
95383235
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-12-06 22:21
12020-12-21 22:47dieterdreist vandalism
95383311
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-12-06 22:24
12020-12-21 22:47dieterdreist vandalism
95449496
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-12-07 23:04
12020-12-21 22:46dieterdreist vandalism
95449775
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-12-07 23:17
12020-12-21 22:46dieterdreist vandalism
95450007
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-12-07 23:28
12020-12-21 22:45dieterdreist vandalism
95451196
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-12-08 00:31
12020-12-21 22:43dieterdreist vandalism
22022-04-15 21:17ALn_668
♦11
vandalism fixed also here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/119765974
32022-04-15 21:18ALn_668
♦11
same here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/119766004
95490043
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-12-08 13:18
12020-12-21 22:42dieterdreist vandalism
95491042
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-12-08 13:37
12020-12-21 22:42dieterdreist vandalism
95490784
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-12-08 13:32
12020-12-21 22:39dieterdreist vandalism
94903703
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-11-27 15:21
12020-12-21 22:27dieterdreist come mai tutte queste cose cancellate?
95568258
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-12-09 17:34
12020-12-21 22:08dieterdreist Hi Città di Palmi, can you please explain what you have been doing here? This looks like vandalism, but maybe there is an explanation? Your changeset comment is not helpful either (minor modifications)
84475043
by Elapsus
@ 2020-05-01 14:14
12020-12-21 11:02dieterdreist Hi Elapsus, I believe there is a problem with this edit, because you added the wikidata reference of the Quartiere toponomastico to this "zona urbanistica". Have a look at name and ref tags and at this relation: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5460386 which has the same link to wiki...
22020-12-21 13:28Elapsus
♦9
I think to fixed the difference. There is a confusion with two parts who are almost the same...
32020-12-21 14:41dieterdreist It depends on the question how similar one sees “aree toponomastiche” and “zone urbanistiche”, but it clearly is a case where the reference from the wikipedia article to wikidata is not about the same wikidata item that is suitable for the object in OpenStreetMap, while the w...
90635333
by physi
@ 2020-09-09 09:37
12020-12-11 20:56Corrales86
♦5
Hey physi,
Magst du kurz schreiben was deine Quelle/Motiviation für dieses Changeset war. Auf den von dir als Quelle in deinem CS genannten Luftbildern (Bing, Esri) ist das Forsthaus Bergerbusch noch vorhanden. An anderer Stelle wo nach den Luftbildern ein Haus steht, ist jetzt Ackerfläch...
22020-12-12 05:19physi
♦47
Hallo Corrales86,
ich war vor drei Monaten selbst vor Ort und habe danach eine Liste von Beobachtungen eingearbeitet. Luftbilder oder Karten wurden dazu nicht verwendet. Ich kann aber selbstverständlich nicht sicher ausschließen, dass mir dabei ein Fehler unterlaufen ist. Wenn du also &u...
32020-12-12 15:22Corrales86
♦5
heute war ich dort vor Ort. Das Forsthaus Bergerbusch steht noch, das Grundstück dazu ist auch noch da. Onnau ebenfalls, beides ist on the ground mit traffic_sign=DE:385 gekennzeichnet. Das Haus nördlich von Gut Ving steht auch noch da.
42020-12-12 15:38physi
♦47
danke für die Überprüfung, da hab ich dann wohl nicht richtig aufgepasst....
52020-12-12 16:22dieterdreist Finde ich schon ein bisschen hart als Entschuldigung für das Löschen von Informationen. Im Zweifel sollte man alles was man sich nicht genau angesehen hat, einfach so lassen wie es andere eingetragen haben, davon ausgehend, dass die beim Eintragen eben durchaus richtig aufgepasst haben wer...
62020-12-13 05:43physi
♦47
Ich habe meine fehlerhaften Änderungen korrigiert.
Gruß
physi
72020-12-13 09:02dieterdreist Danke, auch fürs Teilnehmen an der Diskussion im dt. Forum
56143755
by physi
@ 2018-02-07 09:55
12020-12-12 16:29dieterdreist Changeset genannt in Diskussion um gelöschte Namen: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=71409
59952924
by physi
@ 2018-06-18 17:56
12020-12-12 16:28dieterdreist Changeset genannt in Diskussion https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=71409
60074630
by physi
@ 2018-06-22 12:24
12020-12-12 16:27dieterdreist Changeset genannt in Diskussion https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=71409
94858083
by fkv
@ 2020-11-26 20:04
12020-11-27 15:03dieterdreist Hi, der Name Fugging ist ja noch future_name, aber den Straßennamen hast Du ganz gelöscht?
22020-11-27 15:19fkv
♦585
Den Straßennamen hab ich ganz gelöscht, weil er ganz falsch ist. In manchen, auch amtlichen, Datenbeständen wird als Straßenname defaultmäßig der Ortsname genommen, was in OSM natürlich kontraproduktiv ist. Diese falschen Straßennamen fluten aber immer wie...
32020-11-27 15:54clay_c
♦489
Nach [1] wird das Umbenennen am 1/1/2021 wirksam. Sollte doch der alte Ortsname bis dahin bleiben?

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/26/fugging-hell-tired-of-mockery-austrian-village-changes-name
42020-11-27 16:20fkv
♦585
Siehe meinen ursprünglichen Changesetkommentar. Bis 1.1. ist nicht mehr lang, und jeder, der nach dem alten Ortsnamen sucht, findet ihn wegen old_name sowieso. Wenn du am 1.1. um 0:00 bereitstehst um die Änderung sekundengenau zu machen, dann bitte, nur zu. Aber bedenke, dass die Ände...
52020-11-27 20:09dieterdreist ich weiß, dass andere DBs öfters die Ortsnamen in das Straßenfeld schreiben, weil sie das anders nicht abbilden können, aber hier gibt es eigentlich keinen Hinweis auf Import: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43269170
62020-11-27 23:28fkv
♦585
Da gibt es aber auch keinen Hinweis auf Ortskenntnis. Die zwei Edits waren die einzigen in Österreich von diesem Ungarn, und der benutzte Editor, das oneway=no, die Anzahl seiner Edits bis dahin und seine Changesetbeschreibung lassen alle nicht darauf schließen, dass er wusste, was er tat...
72020-11-28 08:10dieterdreist Du warst also auch nicht vor Ort?
82020-11-28 16:24fkv
♦585
Nein.
92020-11-28 18:17dieterdreist ich finde, auch wenn man den starken Verdacht hat (den ich im Übrigen teile), bevor man einen Namen von einem Objekt wo man nicht war löscht, wäre es angebracht, beim Ersteller nachzufragen.
102020-11-28 18:41fkv
♦585
Bei einem systematischen Fehler, wo schon zigtausende falsche Namen importiert wurden, kann man nicht in jedem einzelnen Fall nachfragen. Das wäre ein Fulltimejob, für den der Sponsor fehlt, und am Ende würde so oder so die Korrektur stehen.
61262944
by Denis Reshetnikov
@ 2018-08-01 12:55
12020-10-19 21:58dieterdreist Hi, I have seen you added shop=mall to the Castel Romano Outlet near Rome, but this is not really a shopping mall (enclosed space, inside), it is many shops connected through "regular" streets (outside).
91417698
by lorec10
@ 2020-09-24 08:20
12020-09-24 08:52lorec10
♦7
errata corrige: relation valid fino a prova contraria
22020-09-24 10:04SekeRob
♦1,435
Just an observation, no critique or contention: That seems to be a frequent issue at OSM, ... relations. Think that those who want to create the relation have to create a new one and tag them appropriately, rather than changing/deleting existing tags of which the person doing the relational work has...
32020-09-24 11:30sabas88
♦196
Grazie
42020-09-24 12:34lorec10
♦7
SekeRob, I’m sorry, I don’t get it...
52020-09-24 12:39SekeRob
♦1,435
The relational routing is broken. Click on https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/31311 and you'll see the subject section is MIA.
62020-09-24 12:43SekeRob
♦1,435
Someone messing with tags as a result breaking a relation.
72020-09-24 12:43sabas88
♦196
And what's the "relation" between your relation and this relation? :/
82020-09-24 13:40SekeRob
♦1,435
Just my 2nd comment that landed in the wrong thread without a delete option, but there's a relation, those 'tags' I mentioned in my first comment and 3rd comment. Hands-off, unless "fino a prova contraria", and then, communicate first and not as has happened on the SS5, JDI ...
92020-10-19 17:12dieterdreist Reckless action and pointless argument. If someone invents something and challenged for it, replies: prove to me that it doesn't exist, this is inverting the burden of proof.
92370489
by lorec10
@ 2020-10-12 18:30
12020-10-13 07:57Cascafico
♦577
WAY: 813505885
What is line=yes?
---

Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/92370489
22020-10-19 17:02dieterdreist Why have you been reinstalling the relation despite the open discussion on talk-it (which by the way did not really point towards undeleting the relation)?
This is clearly incompatible with the data working group comment.
91786960
by MSa968
@ 2020-09-30 20:04
12020-10-06 22:11dieterdreist Ciao MSa e benvenuto!
Un'osservazione: Il tag "image" non dovrebbe contenere un'elaborato grafico come un biglietto da visita, ma piuttosto una fotografia dell'esterno del palazzo.

Grazie,
Martin
91652683
by mcheck
@ 2020-09-28 15:37
Active block
12020-09-29 10:59dieterdreist Ciao,
non capisco questo way: osm.org/way/852453710
mi puoi gentilmente spiegare dove lo hai visto? Su Esri World Imagery Clarity Beta non sembra ci sia un buco di queste dimensioni.

Grazie,
Martin
91665260
by mcheck
@ 2020-09-28 20:24
Active block
12020-09-29 10:55dieterdreist Ciao mcheck,

questo sembrerebbe un import, giusto?
89205076
by amapanda ᚛ᚐᚋᚐᚅᚇᚐ᚜ 🏳️‍🌈
@ 2020-08-10 14:47
12020-09-27 15:04dieterdreist Congratulations for your 10.000th changeset!
90871685
by woodpeck
@ 2020-09-14 14:29
12020-09-15 07:01totera
♦286
Hi Frederik, I think you have been badly informed about Italian geographical region, while a Wikipedia search could have been enough: it is the name commonly found in textbooks, encyclopedias, etc to refer to the land south of the Alpine watershed, which does not fully correspond with the borders of...
22020-09-15 07:55sabas88
♦196
Hi Frederink, it needs only Wikipedia to check if accurate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_geographical_region

Perhaps someone should translate it on dewiki as well but I don't know german....
32020-09-15 09:04woodpeck
♦2,431
The fact that a Wikipedia entry exists for something does not mean that the thing itself exists!
42020-09-15 09:05woodpeck
♦2,431
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Germanic_Reich <-- we wouldn't want to map that either
52020-09-15 09:19sabas88
♦196
Godwin's Law at the first repty? Wow

That's a "political entity" (Q51335349 on wikidata) not a "geographical region" (Q82794 on wikidata)
62020-09-15 09:57dieterdreist I agree with the deletion. Replying to @totera you wrote: "In the past irredentist movements that promoted the annexation of neighbouring regions to Italy have existed, but their claims were on ethnic and linguistic basis rather than geographic." -- claiming "italian geographical regi...
72020-09-23 21:23lorec10
♦7
Hi, I’m the original author of the relation, the “geographic region of Italy” is neither "an ill-defined historic boundary", neither "a right-wing political fantasy”, it is defined as the territory south of the main alpine drainage divide on the European contin...
82020-09-24 11:05dieterdreist lorec, if you go by coast proximity, shouldn't the Sardegna be part of Tunisia then? Was Malta contained? What about Palagruža?
92020-09-24 11:28dieterdreist talk-it is a mailing list for Italy.
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
102020-09-24 12:45lorec10
♦7
The island of Sardinia, the archipelago of Malta and the islands of Pelagosa are all part of the European continent and the closest European continental coasts to all those islands belong to the geographical region of Italy.
112020-09-24 13:24dieterdreist if we agree on plate tectonics for determining the belonging, the eastern parts of Italy and significant parts of the po valley are geographically in Africa:
http://www.raon.ch/images/edu/haz3/eu_Bruchzonen16001.gif
122020-09-24 13:27dieterdreist https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placca_adriatica
132020-09-24 13:33lorec10
♦7
on a geological basis yes, not on a geographical basis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe
142020-09-24 13:43Fintocubano
♦5
I would not deem the concept of *Geographic Region of Italy* as an 'ill-defined historic boundary'. I guess we need to look at three different kinds of definitions of *Geographic Region of Italy* to avoid confusion.

The first definition - geological - is the one mapped in OSM: the orang...
152020-09-24 13:48sabas88
♦196
@lorec10 se vuoi iscriverti alla mailing list ma non sai come fare / non ne hai voglia (lo capisco :D) scrivimi pure un messaggio diretto, sono l'amministratore della lista

@dieterdreist perché dobbiamo ridefinire cose per le quali ci sono esperti di settore?

@all I suggest to make...
162020-09-24 13:48lorec10
♦7
It does allow geographical/physical relations: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3870917
172020-09-24 13:49lorec10
♦7
mi sono iscritto ma non ho capito come si fa a rispondere al thread
182020-09-24 13:53dieterdreist @sabas88 a cosa ti riferisci?
192020-10-19 17:42woodpeck
♦2,431
I have removed the region again in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/92722694 and will issue account blocks for anyone who reinstates it without first achieving a consensus on talk-it that it is a thing that should be mapped. DWG Ticket#2020101910000354
52342202
by nyuriks
@ 2017-09-25 01:23
12019-09-02 09:54Mateusz Konieczny
♦7,666
Is there a wiki page for that mechanical edit? It is a good idea to link it in changeset tags or in a changeset comment
22019-11-10 21:04aquarix
♦115
I have only check a handful items from the list. But what I can say if the linked Wikipedia article refers not to the OSM item itself but to a brand or a company related to the item this was mostly not respected during the edit. So I also would treat this as a mechanical edit. I only saw two items t...
32020-09-23 09:57dieterdreist Clearly a mechanical edit. Unfortunately it introduced or reinforced quite some errors (in the end, a wikidata item is not the same as a wikipedia article, and it can well be possible that a wikipedia article link is a suitable fit for an OSM item while the related (to the article) wikidata object i...
90978611
by artem95vlasovets
@ 2020-09-16 10:12
12020-09-18 10:11whb
♦614
Guten Tag,
was soll denn hier falsch gewesen sein?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/338507616/history
22020-09-18 15:51artem95vlasovets
♦52
Hi! Thank you for your message. I made a mistake and already fixed it in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/91121332.
32020-09-19 11:34Jakob48
♦66
Hallo,

zur Info. Alle von mir im Süden Baden-Württemberg überprüften wikidata/wikipedia Informationen waren korrekt und wurden von mir wieder hergestellt (partial revert CS: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/91065307).
42020-09-20 11:18limes11
♦892
Wouldn’t it make more sense to just cleanly revert this CS? I checked a few changes, some are fine, others are not. Or do we have a volunteer to go through 800 wiki pages one-by-one?

This very much looks like a mechanical edit, I highly doubt the user checked all this by hand. Was it announ...
52020-09-21 13:31artem95vlasovets
♦52
Hi limes11! I deleted wikidata that doesn't match the places where It was used. I announced in telegram chat - https://t.me/OSM_de/41579. There is also a link to the table where were validated all these places. If there are changes that you do not agree with, please write to me. I will be happy...
62020-09-21 14:49skyper
♦871
Where is the discussion in advance of your edit? As all mechanical edits have to be discussed, in advance, please, revert completly and start a discussion about your intention

Thanks skyper.
72020-09-21 15:33dieterdreist +1 to revert because undocumented and undiscussed automated edit
82020-09-21 17:03EinKonstanzer
♦135
This is a strong violation of the automated edits guidline (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct) Your are working for MapBox, right? As a long term participant in the OSM surroundings I expect from MapBox and their staff to be familiar with OSM and the guidlines and d...
92020-09-21 20:02limes11
♦892
Following the comments and the forum discussion

https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=70663

I reverted this changeset for the lack of prior discussion through the appropriate channels. The guideline link was posted above. In fact, the forum is a good platform to discuss the intenti...
102020-09-22 09:26skyper
♦871
Oh, wo ist den die Identifizierung, dass dies ein Änderungssatz von einem angestellten Mapbox Mitarbeiter ist? Wo ist der HashTag des Task.

Bitte weise, deinen Chef auf die Richtlinien hin.

Bis wann kann ich mit den Hashtags rechnen?
112020-09-22 09:32skyper
♦871
Wo ist die offene Kommunikationsplattform?

Private Mails und Telegram does not count!
81870022
by Frugol
@ 2020-03-06 13:23
12020-09-04 17:53dieterdreist ciao, ho visto che hai taggato questo nodo con barrier=yes
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7271935670
significa che non si può oltrepassare la recinzione su quei percorsi oppure c'è un apertura? Nel primo caso metterei barrier=fence sul nodo (oppure taglierei vicino alla rece...
22020-09-14 09:46dieterdreist Hi, I have noticed you have tagged some traffic lights controlled highway=crossing nodes with crossing=marked. Please use a more specific tag, e.g.
crossing=traffic_lights and
crossing=zebra

Thank you.

Martin
75448118
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2019-10-09 09:05
12019-11-18 15:54dieterdreist Qui mi sembra ci siano ancora semafori, oppure sono stati rimossi recentemente?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/414139428
22020-09-04 16:49dieterdreist ci sono altri semafori spariti in questo changeset, per esempio node 566522680, node 1130864337
90267918
by Fluffy89502
@ 2020-09-01 23:48
12020-09-02 20:34Jakob48
♦66
Revertiert mit changeset #90321833. Die A4 südlich von Schaffhausen ist nur eine Schnellstrasse und keine Autobahn.
22020-09-02 21:20dieterdreist Hi Fluffy, it seems your edits in the area were not accurate, could you please explain where your information comes from, or which sources you used? Thank you
85498404
by Città di Palmi
@ 2020-05-20 11:59
12020-09-02 14:52dieterdreist Ciao Città di Palmi,
ho notato che hai creato questo landuse=residential https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/806402228 che contiene di tutto e di più (qualsiasi landuse, compreso strade ecc.). Mentre non è "vietato" procedere in questa maniera (cominciare grezzo e poi a...
88588990
by RubenKelevra
@ 2020-07-27 23:47
12020-08-18 14:16dieterdreist Das ist ziemlich klar ein nicht abgestimmter automatischer Edit. Weitere Infos hier: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=798173#p798173
59265986
by gluca
@ 2018-05-25 10:13
12020-08-08 23:04dieterdreist Ciao Gluca, ho visto che hai rimosso il tag natural=spring da Node: Fonte di Santo Stefano (742648750)
Non è una sorgente?

Un saluto
Martin
80091221
by mcheck
@ 2020-01-26 08:30
Active block
12020-08-04 20:46dieterdreist non capisco perché hai cancellato la versione 6 di Piazzale Aldo Moro per poi ricreare un’altra versione, ed hai cancellato anche i stabilimenti perenni sulla spiaggia per ricrearne degli stabilimenti anonimi, perché?
22020-08-04 20:47dieterdreist scusa, ho ritrovato i stabilimenti, mi ero sbagliato nella posizione
60306138
by aceman444
@ 2018-06-30 16:44
12020-08-02 21:10dieterdreist Hi, I just noticed you surveyed in 2018 that here are no traffic lights: node 5730658123
I thought I remember that there are, can you please confirm? Thank you, Martin
22020-08-02 21:46aceman444
♦2,578
Hi, I have put source=bing on the crossing, while often you can't see traffic lights on bing, so it may be a mistake that I marked it as uncontrolled. I can't resurvey the spot any time soon, so you can fix it up if you remember better.
32020-08-02 22:00dieterdreist all right, I’ll fix it. Please do not add crossing details like crossing=* from aerial imagery, it is not possible to distinguish traffic light controlled crossings from zebra crossings in Rome, because all have zebra markings. Thank you, Martin
42020-08-02 22:12aceman444
♦2,578
Correct, I may have tried to add the zebra and added crossing=uncontrolled too by mistake. Thanks
81614503
by Frugol
@ 2020-02-29 08:12
12020-07-28 10:50dieterdreist Hi, I have seen that you are adding footway=sidewalk tags to (virtual) footway crossing ways (the ways that connect sidewalks at crossings). Please use footway=crossing for these footways (together with highway=footway). Thank you.
66852693
by GBAB
@ 2019-02-02 10:34
12020-07-13 07:21dieterdreist Hi, you wrote you had performed a survey to map this. Can you please tell me more? It does not occur to me that there is an obelisk at this spot, even less that there are names in all those languages. Seems like there is really nothing there.
22020-07-16 07:01GBAB
♦101
Lieber Dieter,
since it was about a year and a half ago, I don't really remember what I have actually done there. As far as the obelisk is concerned, what I have done is that I changed its tags (not being a historic=monument). Apparently, I didn't check its existence believing those mappi...
32020-07-17 08:37dieterdreist The reason why I was asking is that I do not believe there is an obelisk there, for sure there isn't an ancient monumental obelisk there (maybe a modern small version), but from looking at the tags there is eventually something like a memorial (plate) with an inscription that refers to an obeli...
42020-07-20 09:21GBAB
♦101
Yes, probably, you have right. Now, I have made a small investigation and found that there *was* apparently an obelisk there but it isn't:
http://members.ziggo.nl/bfac.berndsen/19geschiedenisV.htm
Look for "Afbeelding 12: Piazza dei Protomartiri Romani"
If you look for pictures on ...
52020-07-22 12:20dieterdreist OK, thank you, I have removed it now.
Have fun mapping!
57802441
by rusefkuma
@ 2018-04-04 12:49
Active block
12020-07-13 07:28dieterdreist Hi rusefkuma, I have noticed you have added an new obelisk here which I am curious to find out more about. Did you take a picture? I have not heard about it yet. Thank you,
Martin
22020-07-14 08:13dieterdreist Can you describe from where you copied the inscription text? I will probably delete this obelisk duplicate at the wrong position, but would try to save useful tags by transferring them to the correct object, if they can be confirmed.
32020-07-17 08:40dieterdreist Hi rusefkuma, can you recall why you added this obelisk and how it did look like? Maybe it was just a confusion and is refering to the monumental Lateran Obelisk in the centre of St. Peter's square? In this case I suggest to remove this object. Please reply, if you do not reply I will remove th...
64278938
by pizzaiolo
@ 2018-11-08 02:13
12020-07-13 07:26dieterdreist Hi Pizzaiolo, I have noticed you have confirmed the phantom obelisk here. Can you please explain what your edit refers to? At first glance it seems someone was adding wikidata tags without any verification to phantom objects which really are already mapped at their actual location.
22020-07-14 00:30pizzaiolo
♦17
Hi! Feel free to undo my edits if you see fit!
32020-07-14 08:10dieterdreist I did not check "your edits" of course, I just noticed you have added wikidata tags to a supposed phantom obelisk, where the actual obelisk is already mapped 200 meters to the east at its actual position. There is no point in doing "manual verification" of automatically adding wi...
87889486
by homy
@ 2020-07-12 21:10
12020-07-13 09:39dieterdreist see https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=794408
75431986
by TWHB
@ 2019-10-08 21:50
12020-07-04 16:13dieterdreist in this changeset there were added "parts" of the citywalls that are not there any more, or that even have never been there (e.g. the pyramid of Cestius was itself part of the walls, there was not a wall going through it and there is not now). Also adjacent there was one the Aurelian walls...
22020-07-04 16:17dieterdreist The Aurelian walls are not a "site", they are city walls, i.e. it is a generally linear feature, and the remains are interrupted, it is quite different to a "site". https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10129640
32020-07-12 18:15TWHB
♦11
I have changed the pyramid and wall next to it, however I do believe that the relation is a "site" see: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Historical_Objects/Relations
42020-07-13 07:11dieterdreist Thank you for fixing the error you had introduced at the pyramid. From looking at the historical_objects page in the wiki that you linked, I did not read it as if site relations were ok for city walls, rather the "type=collection" type seems appropriate, although the page also clearly stat...
87490131
by Adamant1
@ 2020-07-03 08:11
12020-07-05 14:02dieterdreist this is supposedly part of an undiscussed concealed automated edit which retagged several amenity=hospice
22020-07-05 14:08Adamant1
♦222
Weird, because no one ever messaged me about it. They were free to if there was a problem with any of them. Usually it's obligatory to contact someone before reverting them. So, I'm a little disappointed and irritated about it.

Also, I did all those edits by hand over the course of a f...
32020-07-05 14:10Adamant1
♦222
Were you the one that did the revert and was it discussed anywhere? I assume were since you know about it and are commenting on my changesets. Plus, we just got in that little tiff about similar things in the name-index. So, this seems a tad like petty backhanded pay back on your part.
42020-07-05 14:48dieterdreist I did not revert any of this as I am not at the desk currently. This is neither a payback for any other discussion we have had. I just noticed that usage of the tag went down and that of social facility went up, I looked at random objects and saw it was you making this globally.
52020-07-05 15:25SomeoneElse
♦13,390
For info I changed 3 hospices in the east mids of England (that I originally surveyed on the ground) back to their original tagging - I don't know if that's the "revert" being talked about?
87490238
by Adamant1
@ 2020-07-03 08:13
12020-07-05 14:02dieterdreist this is supposedly part of an undiscussed concealed automated edit which retagged several amenity=hospice
87490565
by Adamant1
@ 2020-07-03 08:19
12020-07-05 14:01dieterdreist this is supposedly part of an undiscussed concealed automated edit which retagged several amenity=hospice
87490634
by Adamant1
@ 2020-07-03 08:20
12020-07-05 14:01dieterdreist this is supposedly part of an undiscussed concealed automated edit which retagged several amenity=hospice
81580509
by bvivi
@ 2020-02-28 08:34
Active block
12020-06-22 15:31dieterdreist Hi, I have seen you have added the tags "brand:en=Popular Bank of Sandrio" to a bank of "Banca populare di Sondrio". Can you please explain what your sources are? I did not find a brand of this name.
22020-06-25 19:58dieterdreist Hi bvivi, as you have not replied and the people that contributed to the discussion on the Itailan mailing list proposed to remove the superfluous tags, I have now done so. Please be careful when adding stuff semiautomatically. The reason it is not done automatically is that we are relying on the lo...
87081842
by Indiana Off My Mind
@ 2020-06-24 11:03
12020-06-25 13:05geri-oc
♦497
Ich bitte diese Änderungen zu unterlassen. node mit Adressen an Eingängen zu verschieben bringt eine Qualitätssteigerung. Deine Änderungen sind nicht erwünscht und du kannst gern im Forum über einen Revert deiner CS diskutieren:
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopi...
22020-06-25 13:26geow
♦447
Hi "Indiana Off My Mind", thanks for your contribution, IMHO your edits are OK and welcome, as they comply with the 1:1-Rule ->https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element

However, there are also mappers that prefer address information as a separate node at the en...
32020-06-25 13:39geow
♦447
@geri-oc, wenn ich es richtig überblicke, waren keine Adressknoten an Eingängen kartiert, sondern innerhalb des building als separater node:
https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=87081842
42020-06-25 14:50dieterdreist “Deine Änderungen sind nicht erwünscht” trifft es nicht, es wird diskutiert, ob das Sinn macht oder nicht, und es gibt gute Argumente dass es mindestens keine Verschlechterung ist. Freifliegende Nodes innerhalb von Gebäuden machen keinen Sinn und sind sicherlich nicht bess...
80681207
by geozeisig
@ 2020-02-07 08:52
12020-06-04 08:22dieterdreist Die weltberühmte Schinkelsche Bauakademie nebst ausführlichem tagging, Verweisen zu Wikipedia und Wikidata, Beschreibung als Gerüst, in Version13, wurde hier zu building=yes umgetaggt, Absicht?
22020-06-05 05:24geozeisig
♦224
Von dem Gerüst steht nicht mehr, nur noch die eine Ecke die zur Demonstration gebaut wurde. Vielleicht wird sie ja wieder aufgebaut. Dann tragen wir es ein.
84488376
by gigi2037
@ 2020-05-01 18:39
12020-05-05 14:24dieterdreist undiscussed import
22020-05-05 20:42gigi2037
♦19
perchè mi da probema i numeri con cap 24128 non riesco a capire
62876119
by dieterdreist
@ 2018-09-24 11:06
12018-09-24 11:16dktue
♦208
Willkommen zurück in Tübingen! :-)
22018-09-24 11:26dieterdreist Danke, aber der Edit bezieht sich nur auf allgemeines Wissen, er bezieht sich nicht auf einen aktuellen survey ;-)
32018-09-24 12:07dktue
♦208
Und mein Kommentar bezieht sich auf den Wunsch, dass Du als Power-Mapper wieder "daheim" mappst. :-)
42018-12-30 10:06ajf3934221
♦147
hallo, ja und wie ischt des jetzt mit dem fixme auf dem bereich von dieterdreist: "isn't this actually mixed landuse, with retail, commercial and residential at the same amount?"

also dieser Aussage kann man wohl schon so zustimmen würde ich sagen. Oder gibt es andere Meinunge...
52020-05-03 05:39ajf3934221
♦147
Halllllöle! Jetzt hätte ich nochmal eine Frage: und zwar bzgl: Knoten: Neckartor (3363574827)

wiso ist hier place=locality besser als neigbhbourhood? ich dachte locality sei ein unbewohntes Gewann?

Grüßle,
Andy
62020-05-03 09:41dieterdreist locality ist wenn das Toponym sich nicht auf eine Siedlung oder einen Siedlungsteil bezieht. Hier würde ich das eher so sehen, man könnte aber evtl. auch für neighbourhood argumentieren
35541496
by atpl_pilot
@ 2015-11-23 23:41
12015-11-24 00:40atpl_pilot
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Es sind noch einige Lücken übriggeblieben, die werde ich auch noch schließen. Bitte beachtet in diesem Zusammenhang das zukünfige tagging Schema unter http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Street_area

Danke
22020-03-26 14:00dieterdreist Vielen Dank fürs Teilen des Monsters! Ich wollte anregen, den Gehweg zur Straße zu zählen und den landuse erst an der Grundstückgrenze (Hausaußenseite) anfangen zu lassen. Auf dem Gehweg wohnt ja niemand (und das ist auch, wie es üblicherweise gesehen wird, Gehweg als...
32020-03-26 14:39atpl_pilot
♦71
Hallo Martin,
ich fine eine Karte ist in erster Linie zur Orientierung da. Für mich ist überall wo Menschen leben oder im Stadtgebiet laufen können, das Landuse = residental (verfeinert durch spezielle Nutzung wie commercial etc).

Straße ist für mich und alle die ich ke...
42020-03-26 15:02dieterdreist Hallo, das ging ja schnell.

Ich bin der gleichen Meinung, dass eine Karte zur Orientierung dienen können muss.

Zur Frage, ob landuse=residential überflüssig wäre, wenn das Haus schon als Wohntypologie getaggt ist: im Prinzip dort, wo das Gebäude das gesamte Grundst&uu...
82458116
by Rodrigo Oooooo
@ 2020-03-21 12:04
12020-03-21 16:18highflyer74
♦2,447
Hello and welcome to OSM!

Please observe that we generally do not add temporary data. The German community has agreed on not adding any COVID-19 specific data to objects in OSM (please refer to the forum thread https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=68908) as things are changing too qui...
22020-03-21 16:33Rodrigo Oooooo
♦1
Thank you for the valuable feedback! I am currently exploring how COVID-19-related updates of local businesses can be visualized / shared. I think, then crawling of data from other data sources and mapping the data to OpenStreetMap points is a better way to go. So no modification to OpenStreetMap da...
32020-03-21 17:33highflyer74
♦2,447
Your're welcome :-) The OSM community (which means mainly people doing this in their spare time) is trying to keep the quality high over a long time.

Google which (unlike OSM) is funded by people paying for being displayed on some map or search result is offering their customers (!) to adju...
42020-03-23 10:05dieterdreist Thank you for your edit. Those who criticize this as very short term "temporary" seem to have a crystal sphere. We do indeed map things that are temporarily changed, provided it is more than very short term.
52020-03-28 08:33Vinber
♦802
Hi, Hello, in France, we have decided to use a specific label to facilitate the cleaning of the database. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours:covid19.
It's only to add a point of vue.
Regards
82257513
by Lgh-OSM-Editor
@ 2020-03-16 12:38
12020-03-16 14:30OSM_RogerWilco
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Hallo Lgh-OSM-Editor,

willkommen bei OSM!

Warum hast Du die Wege gelöscht?

Viele Grüße
Roger Wilco
22020-03-18 13:36Nakaner-repair
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This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 82349775 where the changeset comment is: Revert changeset 82257513 because the comment does not provide a sufficient explanation for the deletion but leads to the suspicion that the deletion was done for political reasons. Please comment...
32020-03-18 14:58dieterdreist Wer neu zu OpenStreetMap kommt und als erste Aktion ne Menge Sachen löscht, in deren Erfassung stundenlange wenn nicht tagelange Arbeit steckt, noch dazuhin mit einem so mageren Kommentar, der stellt sich sozusagen selbst unter Vandalismusverdacht. Trotzdem, willkommen und freut mich, dass Du O...
42020-03-18 14:59dieterdreist sorry, das tagelang nehme ich zurück ;-)
52020-03-19 08:33Lgh-OSM-Editor
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Erstmal vielen Dank dass Ihr Euch gemeldet habt.
Sorry, wenn das Löschen der Wege für Irritationen gesorgt hat, das sollte definitiv kein Vandalismus sein!

Wie ich bereits kurz kommentiert hatte, sind die Wege aus folgendem Grund gelöscht worden:

Die Bereiche, in denen sich die...
62020-03-19 10:29kreuzschnabel
♦801
Hallo Lgh-OSM-Editor, danke für die Erklärung. In OSM gilt es nicht als sinnvoll, vorhandene Wege zu löschen, und zwar deshalb, weil der nächste Mapper, der da vorbeikommt, sie möglicherweise wieder einträgt (in dem Glauben, die fehlen noch). Klüger ist es, das OSM...
72020-03-19 12:51OSM_RogerWilco
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Das Betreten ist weiterhin erlaubt (siehe auch https://www.langenhagen.de/index.phtml?object=tx,1620.19.1&ModID=7&FID=1620.6865.1). Daher sollten vorhandene Wege auch nicht gelöscht werden, sondern nur richtig beschrieben werden, wie kreuzschnabel schon schrieb. Gierfür gibt es meh...
82020-03-19 13:57Lgh-OSM-Editor
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Okay, danke für die Hilfestellung.
Dann ist also das Tag abandoned:highway=track (bzw. path oder footway) zu setzen, oder?
Und ich würde mich bzgl. der genauen Abgrenzungen des Naturwaldes (Teile des Stadtparks) erkundigen.
Die Bänke sollen wohl noch zurückgebaut werden. Wie i...
92020-03-19 14:38OSM_RogerWilco
♦724
Hat sich denn der Zustand der Wege inzwischen tatsächlich geändert? Wenn nein, würde ich sie nicht ändern. Und wenn, würde ich eher mit Tags wie surface, width, tracktype und smothness den Zustand des Weges beschreiben.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:surface
...
102020-03-19 15:12TS-R
♦11
Hallo lgh-osm-editor,

grundsätzlich kannst du bei entfernten Elementen die lifecycle prefix nutzen https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Lifecycle_prefix. Eine angebaute Bank könnte somit als removed:amenity=bench getaggt werden.

Bei einer Sitzbank die komplett entfernt wurde und di...
112020-03-19 15:13TS-R
♦11
Korrektur: Das sollte natürlich abgebaut heißen.
122020-03-19 15:53dieterdreist Hallo Lgh, und nochmal willkommen. Sorry für den Vandalismusverdacht, wir sehen halt öfter mal Edits nach dem ähnlichen Schema, und oft sind sie nicht in guter Absicht (manchmal aber natürlich schon).
Bei aufgegebenen Wegen ist abandoned:highway=<Wegtyp> ein guter tag, ins...
81891098
by jucepi
@ 2020-03-07 06:03
12020-03-10 06:24geri-oc
♦497
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Key:addr
22020-03-10 10:38fx99
♦127
This Changeset and others were reverted,
see https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=68868
32020-03-11 09:57dieterdreist Automatic translation, English original below
Hola jucepi, gracias por contribuir a OpenStreetMap. Por favor, tened cuidado antes de quitar cosas del mapa. Echa un vistazo a "todas las etiquetas" si estás usando el iD Editor. Escribe al usuario que ha creado los objetos que no enti...
79735364
by Alessandro Antonelli
@ 2020-01-18 16:32
12020-01-24 17:31dieterdreist Ciao Alessandro, ti volevo far sapere che in questo changeset hai rotto la relazione della foresta (prolungando il "fence" si è distrutto il multipoligono). Ammetto che questo multipoligono è veramente esagerato, sarebbe da spezzare in parti più piccoli, innanzitutto ...
22020-02-04 11:00Alessandro Antonelli
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Ciao Martin, scusa se rispondo in ritardo. Effettivamente mi ero reso conto di aver fatto qualche pasticcio con la foresta, solo che mi sembrava di aver annullato l'errore prima di salvare (ma evidentemente poi lo ho reintrodotto...). Per cui ti ringrazio moltissimo della correzione, purtroppo ...
32020-02-04 11:56dieterdreist Ciao Alessandro,

grazie per la tua risposta. Nessun problema, come ti avevo scritto, l'ho già ripristinato. Ti propongo di dare un'occhiata anche a JOSM (l'altro principale editore di OSM), che certe cose sono più facili lì (all'inizio può sembrare ...
77187177
by gpstracks
@ 2019-11-17 12:24
12020-02-02 19:42dieterdreist Bravo, bellissimo lavoro!
22020-02-03 20:34gpstracks
♦97
Grazie.
E' stato un vero piacere :)
70361590
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2019-05-17 15:01
12020-02-01 15:40dieterdreist Ciao Michele, ti segnalo che in questo changeset hai distrutto la relazione amministrativa "Acilia Sud" (probabilmente quando hai unito la rotatoria 126957331). Ti invito di usare JOSM che molto probabilmente non sarebbe successo ;-)
77868705
by Dino Michelini
@ 2019-12-03 10:34
12020-01-26 15:59dieterdreist Ciao Dino, ho visto che hai aggiunto admin_level=8 alla Zona La Giustiniana, penso sia troppo basso (sarebbe in conflitto con i Municipi che loro sono al 10). In un'altro caso ho messo 11: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10319358 e suggerisco anche qui 11. Poi farei 2 oggetti distinti pe...
22020-01-28 08:56Dino Michelini
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Ciao Martin, mi sembra di ricordare che questa relazione (Zona LIV La Giustiniana) non si riferiva al municipio Municipio Roma XV, di cui esiste una relazione con admin_level=10, ma solo al quartiere della Giustiniana. Circa l'uso di admin_level=11 non saprei se sia corretto utilizzarlo: nella ...
32020-01-28 10:11dieterdreist Place=quarter si può applicare alle relazioni del tipo multipolygon, sono equiparati ai poligoni, "on relation" si riferisce a altri tipi di relazione. Se vedi in taginfo, a parte i nodi, sono per un terzo relazioni: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/place=quarter
Io sono a fa...
42020-01-28 10:17dieterdreist Ho fatto un esempio qui:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10319358
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5460386
52020-01-28 11:35Dino Michelini
♦321
A questo punto si dovrebbe aggiornare la pagina https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dquarter...
62020-01-28 11:50dieterdreist perché? Già specifica "on area=yes", e che non si tratta di entità amministrative.
72020-01-28 11:52dieterdreist ammetto, ho modificato anche la Giustiniana, perché sicuramente admin_level=8 non era giusto (8 sono i comuni, e 10 i municipi, quindi anche se fosse una entità amministrativa, dovrebbe stare sotto il livello 10)
82020-01-28 12:36Dino Michelini
♦321
mi riferisco al Template:ValueDescription parametro |onRelation= circa l'utilizzo con "relation" posto a (?)
92020-01-28 12:45dieterdreist come avevo scritto sopra, le relazioni del tipo multipolygon e boundary sono contenute in "area"
52151597
by mat135
@ 2017-09-18 17:13
12020-01-28 08:11dieterdreist Hi Mat135, I just noticed you added outdoor seating=no to the Gelateria Fassi. Are you sure? I have not been there recently, but for many years they did provide outdoor seating in the courtyard, at least in the warm period of the year.
21748075
by Gehrke
@ 2014-04-17 12:03
12020-01-27 18:26dieterdreist great stuff!
49835295
by lorec10
@ 2017-06-26 12:40
12017-09-11 18:13fx99
♦127
Hi, what is the sense of this relation:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7357659 ?
It started as boundary=historic: Kingdom of Italy (1918 -1947) , now it is boundary=geographic?? It is not identical to the political boundary of Italy.
Besides this, it is mis-spelled, and contains a a loop ...
22020-01-27 08:29dieterdreist I agree with fx99, this relation does not seem to represent something verifiable on the ground and on close inspection seems to be drawn arbitrarily. E.g. it includes the territorial waters of current Italy, according to 20th century legislation, how would this qualify for "geographic"?
I...
32020-01-27 09:06lorec10
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Salve dieterdreist, premetto che ho effettuato questo gruppo di modifiche già un po’ di tempo fa, perciò non ricordo esattamente la successione dei cambiamenti apportati, inoltre ero ancora inesperto nell’uso di OSM, mi scuso quindi per eventuali procedure “non ortodo...
42020-01-27 09:22dieterdreist Salve Lorec10,

grazie per risposta veloce. Generalmente, in OSM cerchiamo di mappare la situazione attuale. I confini "storici" sono inseriti in casi dove c'è ancora qualche effetto attuale del confine. Ovviamente, ogni situazione storica avrà anche qualche effetto co...
52020-01-27 09:28lorec10
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scusi, sta parlando di questa relazione: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7358831 ? Io intendevo questa
62020-01-27 09:50dieterdreist Io parlo di questa:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7357659
(è l'unica relazione di questo changeset)
72020-01-27 10:05lorec10
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sì, ma i percorsi modificati si riferiscono alla relazione https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7358831, come le ho detto mio malgrado c’è stata molta confusione da parte mia dovuta alla mia inesperienza. Per quanto riguarda la relazione https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7...
82020-01-27 13:14dieterdreist si, ho capito che viene dichiarata "geografica", ma come ho cercato di spiegare sopra, in questo contesto, la geografia senza la politica e cultura non esiste. Per esempio l'Istrioto viene oramai visto come appartenente al gruppo delle lingue romanze balcaniche e non più a quel...
92020-01-29 18:50lorec10
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Per quanto riguarda la definizione di regione geografica italiana può leggere l’articolo di wikipedia allegato. Per semplificare, il concetto include il territorio versante nel mediterraneo tra i due punti in cui il moderno confine italiano tocca la linea costiera, più tutte le i...
39001087
by caterpillar64
@ 2016-04-30 15:19
12020-01-13 11:15dieterdreist Hi Caterpillar64, I noticed you have added "name=Babbo Natale" for this path. As this sounds somehow unusual for a path name, I am curious to find out where the name comes from. Would you please be so kind to explain where you have got it from?
Thank you,
Martin
22020-01-20 17:57caterpillar64
♦1
Hello Martin.
There’s a wood panel at the beginning of the downhill path, with that name written on.
That’s the reason I’ve reported that name.
Goodbye.
Caterpillar64
32020-01-21 08:00dieterdreist Hello Caterpillar64, thank you for replying. I had the suspicion that this was indeed the reason, so it is clear now.
Thanks again,
Martin
79339842
by Otzitello
@ 2020-01-08 12:55
12020-01-08 18:33dieterdreist Hi, can you explain what you are doing? Are you aware you are adding live (bogus) information to a community created project? Please stop.
22020-01-09 19:46Alecs01
♦1,423
I believe he is just trying to add addresses as nodes, they may be retained as useful info, deleting amenity=shower and name=. Maps.me does not allow you to create a node with just an addr: tag, it is not the first time I see something like that.
32020-01-09 23:09dieterdreist Maybe we should point him/her to a better editing software like josm, gomap!! or vespucci
42412697
by select
@ 2016-09-24 21:34
12019-12-16 17:58dieterdreist Ciao Select,

I just noticed you renamed a part of Lungotevere Dante to Via Mario Ageno in this changeset. Was it on purpose? The changeset comment is not really comprehensive, but it doesn't seem to suggest that renaming was within the intended scope of the changeset.
https://www.openstreet...
22019-12-16 20:13Alecs01
♦1,423
Martin, il nome di quella strada lo avevi cambiato tu https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/289793780/history lui è solo il solito vandalo che modifica tutte le strade unclassified in residential e cancella tutti i telefoni che incontra (qua sono cinque), come ha fatto qua e in chissà quan...
32019-12-16 20:39dieterdreist Grazie Alecs, mammamia, trovo i miei errori di anni da o_O
42019-12-17 10:52dieterdreist Dopo aver indagato meglio ricordo che avevo trovato un relativo cartello che sembrava indicare Via Maria Ageno anche da quella parte, ma la realtà è probabilmente che qualcuno ha girato il cartello (era un cartello ad angolo)
74401051
by dktue
@ 2019-09-12 16:42
12019-12-16 09:11dieterdreist Hi dktue, ja, der Georgsbrunnen ist natürlich Teil des Hoizmarkts (place=square), aber er ist natürlich nicht Teil der Fußgängerfläche highway=pedestrian, area=yes. Auch Treppen sind üblicherweise nicht mit highway=pedestrian getaggt.
78220825
by badenk
@ 2019-12-10 17:55
12019-12-12 11:25dieterdreist Hi badenk,
I have seen you have added this giant circle:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/754056333
But there are no tags that describe the object, just a name. Can you please explain what this is?

Thank you
Martin
22019-12-12 13:34badenk
♦47
Hi Martin:

This circle is used a guide to help align the
adjoining railway route, the name is the radius.

thanks,
Baden
32019-12-12 14:56dieterdreist Thank you for the reply. This was also the most probable hypothese we had gotten so far. Good work ;-)
Cheers
Martin
41250473
by fayor
@ 2016-08-05 01:34
12017-07-06 11:22dieterdreist looks like an undiscussed mechanical edit. Deletes 767 ways in one changeset, many of which in mature versions (e.g. v19!).
22017-07-06 11:24dieterdreist There even a way in version 57 deleted by this. Please be more respectful with other people's work and modify rather than delete / recreate! E.g. way/15564717
32018-10-20 21:36rene78
♦447
Not sure whether this reversion was a wise one. In my opinion all "Zonas" of Rome (e.g. this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5319470) should have admin_level=10. All municipalities (e.g. this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1459589) admin_level=8. This changeset rem...
42018-10-21 08:56Alecs01
♦1,423
Don't know what happened in this changeset, but current tagging is fine. I believe the name "Municipio" may be misleading, those are indeed municipal subdivisions, admin_level=10 is correct according to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative&...
52018-10-22 22:17dieterdreist Yes, for this particular changeset it is too late for a revert, what is unfortunate because of the many deleted objects.
62019-11-18 21:44dieterdreist This is still tagged as place=quarter, and the admin_level and boundary=administrative is missing. I am also quite sure this should be an administrative boundary. Fayor, can you explain why you removed the admin tags?
72019-11-18 21:48rene78
♦447
He never participated in the discussion. Would be surprised, if he replies this time. Maybe doesn't speak English?
82019-11-18 22:39dieterdreist Fayor, sembra che questo sia un confine amministrativo (quartiere di Roma), vorrei sapere se fosse stato intenzionale togliere i tag boundary=administrative e admin_level=10. Grazie, Martin
92019-11-19 14:38fayor
♦125
Assolutamente intenzionale, quello non è un confine amministrativo
102019-11-20 09:24dieterdreist Rimango ogni volta perplesso quando degli utenti cambiano unilateralmente e senza confrontrarsi con nessuno la mappatura che esisteva da anni.
In questo caso si tratta di una "zona urbanistica", no? Queste sono suddivisioni dei Municipi, creati per la pianificazione e gestione del territ...
112019-11-20 15:32fayor
♦125
Come ho già detto, quello NON E' un confine amministrativo.
L'ha chiaramente spiegato anche alecs nel suo commento, che ti riporto: "current tagging is fine. I believe the name "Municipio" may be misleading, those are indeed municipal subdivisions, admin_level=10 is...
122019-11-20 16:22dieterdreist Certamente non parliamo di un municipio, io parlavo del Quartiere Ostiense https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5460386 (i changeset così grandi come questo sono difficili da commentare e da visionare, per questo si consiglia di caricare le modifiche in maniera più incrementale).
S...
132019-11-20 16:49fayor
♦125
Non si tratta di una zona urbanistica ma di una zona toponomastica: le zone toponomastiche sono (cito da Wikipedia)
116, organizzate in quattro tipologie: 22 RIONI nel centro storico, 35 QUARTIERI densamente abitati, 6 SUBURBI adiacenti ai quartieri e 53 ZONE nel resto del territorio comunale.
Qu...
142019-11-20 17:31dieterdreist ho aggiunto una relazione per la zona urbanistica, e modificato il Quartiere da quarter in suburb (il senso di place in OSM non corrisponde all'uso delle parole italiane "Quartiere" e "Suburbio" a Roma, suburb e quarter in OSM vanno per grandezza, mentre a Roma è il g...
152019-11-20 17:38dieterdreist per le zone toponomastiche c'era storicamente nel tagging di OSM soltanto place=suburb, dopo tanto è seguito place=neighbourhood, ed io ho aggiunto place=quarter in mezzo tra grande e piccolo (è un sistema gerarchico). Sono tag generici per toponimi "in città". No...
162019-11-20 18:00fayor
♦125
Sembra di parlare col muro, non capisci o fingi di non capire le spiegazioni che ti vengono date.
Dici di "rimanere perplesso" quando qualcuno cambia qualcosa senza confrontarsi e poi fai la stessa cosa.
Hai fatto delle modifiche totalmente errate e non te ne rendi conto. Bravo.
172019-11-20 23:00dieterdreist ti invito a segnalarmi gli errori nel changeset dove li ho fatto, oppure in mailing list, per quanto può essere bello discutere tutto qui, gli edits nuovi non c’entrano più qui.
Se non era chiaro dagli ultimi commenti miei, sono comunque d’accordo di togliere boundary=admi...
76870156
by SerV
@ 2019-11-10 14:33
12019-11-18 15:48dieterdreist Hi, I have noticed you have been changing the specific tag crossing=zebra to the unspecific crossing=marked. Can you explain why you have done it? It seems to loose information, doesn't it?
22019-11-18 19:51Alecs01
♦1,423
Many users are doing the same thing, because this is what iD suggests right now
http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Zebra-crossings-being-lost-in-iD-how-to-respond-td5950318.html
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/6962
32019-11-18 19:58dieterdreist I am aware that iD suggests to do this, but they say people are actively deciding for the change, and I wanted to see if this is actually the case. IMHO it is a bad choice because the new tag is less specific
42019-11-18 22:17SerV
♦1
Hi, I normally used to change crossing=zebra for crossing=marked as iD suggests plus cossing_ref=zebra to not loss information.
Also, note that in a lot of places people used to tag as crossing=zebra even there is no zebra markings.
I think the crossing=marked + crossing_ref=zebra schema is more s...
52019-11-18 22:25dieterdreist I agree that tagging crossing=zebra where there are no zebra markings is wrong. My suggestion would be to fix it where there aren't zebra markings, not to change the tag where there are actually zebra markings.
Would you say that crossing=marked is applicable to places where the marked crossin...
62019-11-18 22:33SerV
♦1
Wouldn't that be crossing=traffic_signals?
And if there is zebra markins complement it with the crossing_ref=zebra?
72019-11-18 22:35dieterdreist It definitely could be tagged as you propose, what I wanted to know if crossing=marked would be an alternative tagging for it? What about crossings with zebra markings but no vertical signage, legally these aren't zebra crossings in Italy if they are not in proximity to a road junction. I thoug...
82019-11-18 22:53SerV
♦1
Theoretically it can be an alternative but I understand that the traffic signals are always more important than the floor markings, so crossing=traffic_signals will be better.
I don't understand a lot the other case you expose. If I get what you say, I think you are right. It would be crossing...
92019-11-18 23:07dieterdreist I am unsure about crossing_ref, it isn’t really defined/documented, the wiki says its meaning is countryspecific and is about a “crossing type “
which is somehow contradicted by the usage of crossing_ref in combination with signal controlled crossings
102019-11-18 23:29SerV
♦1
Yeah, it's a little confusing. For the moment I will not modify any cross again, let's see if it is clarified in the future.
Also note how in the wiki is used different types of crossing=* with the crossing_ref=*
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing#Examples
112019-11-19 09:06dieterdreist Thank you for the productive dialogue, let's see if we can get this sorted out in the future...
122019-11-19 10:37SerV
♦1
Thank you, too.
69533308
by Michele Aquilani
@ 2019-04-24 16:33
12019-11-16 18:22dieterdreist Ciao Michele,
in questo changeset hai messo tutto un fosso sotto terra, ma non è probabile, perché ci sono anche ponti.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/450758287#map=14/41.7817/12.5330
Un saluto
Martin
73443878
by alpenmurmeli
@ 2019-08-17 14:15
12019-11-15 12:26dieterdreist Hi, you have added a lot of parts of the Vatican Museums as museum, for example the "Sala della biga", which in reality is part of the museum "Museo Pio Clementino", as is the "Galleria dei Candalabri" etc.
See here for reference: http://www.museivaticani.va/content/mu...
22019-11-15 12:33dieterdreist There is also the removal of this way: 214196250 which seems incorrect, although I am not completely sure. Can you explain why it was removed?
Generally, I would not say your edit was malicious of course, just that it seems incorrect tagging to use the tourism=museum tag for what essentially is jus...
32019-11-16 10:25alpenmurmeli
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feel free to retag or remove them but I think it would be helpful for visitors to know where these places are, as the map given at visit is not very clear.
Please explain why removal of 214196250 seems incorrect. Unfortunately openstreetmap does not indicate which one it was. If I knew which one it...
42019-11-16 11:36dieterdreist I agree that these are useful to map, but they aren’t museums, they are parts of museums. Maybe indoor mapping could represent them appropriately.
The way was probably on a different level, you can see it if you look at your changeset in OSMCha
52019-11-30 09:44alpenmurmeli
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way 214196250 has been restored by dieterdreist. Thank you!
76533537
by lorenzog89
@ 2019-11-02 17:32
12019-11-15 13:21dieterdreist Ciao Lorenzo,
ti chiedo cortesemente di utilizzare commenti di changeset più utili. "correzioni varie" non dice niente. Se cancelli degli oggetti sarebbe da scrivere perché, tipo "cancellati campi sportivi perché non ci sono più" o qualcosa di simile....
22019-11-15 13:26lorenzog89
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Ciao, scusami la prossima volta sarò più preciso. Comunque è un campo temporaneo, allestito solo per gli internazionali di tennis.
32019-11-15 16:16dieterdreist grazie mille della risposta, e anche grazie del tuo contributo.
Ti avevo scritto perché ho notato che sei molto attivo e che "correzioni varie" è il tuo commento preferito in assoluto, ma dice (troppo) poco.
In ogni caso, buona mappatura!
Un saluto
Martin
42019-11-15 16:28lorenzog89
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Figurati, se vuoi sentiamoci, per scambiare qualche opinione.
52019-11-16 08:15dieterdreist Ci incontriamo ogni ultimo lunedì del mese a Roma, se ti va (e soprattutto se ci sei a Roma), ci farebbe piacere: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rome/Incontro
62019-11-18 17:22lorenzog89
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Io sono di Pistoia, un po lontanino. Aggiungimi su skype lorenzoguidotti
76688829
by airali96
@ 2019-11-06 09:48
12019-11-07 09:14GCerretani
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modifiche apparentemente un po' a caso. inseriti casini in piazza del campo a siena.
22019-11-15 13:04dieterdreist Innanzitutto, benvenuto tra i mappatori, e non ti scoraggiare, ho visto che hai richiesto un review. Non ho tempo per guardare il tutto ;-) ma sarebbe meglio caricare le modifiche in maniera più atomica (non caricare piccole modifiche in città diverse con lo stesso caricamento).
Poi ...
32019-11-15 13:10dieterdreist Per esempio quando cancelli una fontana, questo meriterebbe un caricamento isolato, dove nel commento scrivi perché (tipo: cancellato fontana perché smantellata).
https://osmlab.github.io/osm-deep-history/#/way/679547869
(non lo so se esiste o meno questa fontana, casomai se ti serv...
42019-11-15 13:16dieterdreist Un altra cosa ancora: hai aggiunto "historic=monument" ad una statua:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6950719793
questo tag descrive una struttura grande e accessibile all'interno. Il wiki di OSM ti può aiutare nella verifica che i tag proposti dal editore iD sono giusti:...
52019-11-15 13:18dieterdreist access=yes è inutile su un parco giocchi, è implicito:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/680364396
50465007
by aldoct
@ 2017-07-21 17:57
12019-11-15 12:56dieterdreist Ho notato che hai modificato alcuni motor_vehicle=private in motor_vehicle=no, cosa mi sembra molto improbabile, visto che parliamo di strade su una piazza pubblica. Al solito ci sono autorizzati (polizia ecc.) che possono usare queste strade. Access=no è appropriato quando _nessuno_ po'...
76525727
by marcoSt
@ 2019-11-02 11:42
12019-11-04 10:16dieterdreist grazie Marco, ma hai cambiato tutta la sagoma, in realtà cosa ho inteso era di splittare l'edificio in 2 parti, una rimaneva a 7 piani, e l'altra a 4. Non lo potevo fare in mobilità, per questo ho creato la nota.
22019-11-04 17:28marcoSt
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Oh, scusa, era stato un malinteso da parte mia. Pensavo si riferisse a tutta la casa. Bene, può succedere :-)
32019-11-04 18:29dieterdreist si, non ti preoccupare, l'ho già fissato. In generale bisogna sempre stare un po' attenti con le note, ho visto spesso che non erano vere (tipo: "non ha mai esistito o non c'è più" viene spesso segnalato da utenti che in realtà si sbagliano e guar...
56387886
by Michi_
@ 2018-02-15 15:41
12019-11-02 01:03dieterdreist Ciao, segnalo questa nota (non mia):
https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1010720
"Per il mapping di corridoi si usa higway=corridor.
Per tutte le informazioni necessarie: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Indoor_Mapping "
55099425
by Giardia
@ 2018-01-02 12:34
12019-10-23 10:47dieterdreist Ciao Giardia, secondo un altro utente, il parcheggio bici in realtà è un parcheggio motorini / moto per 9 moto. Confermi?
22019-10-23 11:11Giardia
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Bisognerebbe controllare sul posto, in due anni possono essere cambiate le cose...
32019-10-23 12:18dieterdreist infatti
42019-10-29 16:49Giardia
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oggi passavo da quelle parti e ho dato una controllata, è ancora un parcheggio per bici con tanto di cartello.
52019-10-30 09:20dieterdreist per caso hai anche visto questa fontanella se era un nasone?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5316361874

Perché abbiamo da qualche tempo stabilito il tag
fountain=nasone per i nasoni, e sarebbe da aggiungere se si.
62019-10-30 09:21dieterdreist stavo per togliere il fixme e ho visto che l'avevi già fatto, grazie!
61405553
by Netadmap
@ 2018-08-06 13:54
12019-10-23 10:37dieterdreist Hi Netadmap, I just discovered you entered a water tower here. Please do not add "the closest possible match" objects via Maps.me. Their editor has only a very limited set of features, and you would end up adding errors (like here), only add things that they actually have provided for.
Th...
46834029
by dieterdreist
@ 2017-03-14 09:03
12019-10-16 12:46amapanda ᚛ᚐᚋᚐᚅᚇᚐ᚜ 🏳️‍🌈
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Hi, For Finnegan Irish Pub, I added `theme=irish`, to say that it's an irish pub. Although I've never heard of the `restaurant:type:it` tag, that's interesting

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/75778594
22019-10-17 16:12dieterdreist we have been meeting there with our local group, but frankly I did not pay attention whether they are Irish or British. Judging by the name, if they were British, it would be a perfect cover up.
32019-10-17 16:14dieterdreist the restaurant:type:it is an old idea of mine to distinguish common local typologies of places where you can get something to eat. E.g. it is suitable to distinguish an osteria from a ristorante or a trattoria. It is a list of autodeclared (by the owner of the feature / the signage) typologies.
42019-10-17 16:16dieterdreist and it uses the words they use themselves (i.e. local language), semicolon separated, and without capitalization and spaces become underscores (i.e. there is some normalization, but very few, not changing words)
52019-10-18 07:53amapanda ᚛ᚐᚋᚐᚅᚇᚐ᚜ 🏳️‍🌈
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Gotcha. 🙂 It sounds like a good idea. Apparently there's some form of Italian restaurant certification http://www.italiantaste-certification.com/criteria/
62019-10-18 10:54dieterdreist It's not something I have heard of in Italy, it is probably not so important here, because Italians will want to decide for themselves whether a restaurant is "truly Italian", but it could help tourists or in other countries.
As a first indication: if there are "Spaghetti Bolog...
66206535
by vohokudul
@ 2019-01-10 19:31
Active block
12019-10-04 09:00dieterdreist Hi, I have noticed you have changed the road classification of the lateral road of Via Cristoforo Columbo from unclassified to residential. It is not a residential part of this road because nobody is living there, it is a part between the arterial road and a parking, sports pitches and a university ...
22019-10-04 09:01dieterdreist You do not have to act, I have already changed it back.

Cheers,
Martin
14106234
by GeofixFe
@ 2012-12-01 00:26
12019-09-30 10:50dieterdreist Hi, I noticed you added the Reginna torrent in the underground/tunnel part as width=5meters, can you recall where this information comes from?
73922468
by dieterdreist
@ 2019-08-30 13:10
12019-09-14 12:15marc__marc
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Thanks :) I was going to write on talk to do a mechanical edit when I noticed that their numbers had melted. do you plan to do the few remaining countries ?
Regards,
Marc
22019-09-14 13:28dieterdreist frankly no. I did some countries I was aware of with small numbers of objects and then couldn't stop so I went on, but most of them weren't strictly mechanical edits because I have looked individually at all results. This was more time consuming then I originally wanted (because of web res...
54453871
by FrViPofm
@ 2017-12-08 09:47
12019-09-14 13:18dieterdreist Hi Brother Vincent, I have noticed you are using the building=monastery tag as the main tag for monasteries (together with community tags etc.). May I suggest to use amenity=monastery on the whole grounds (excluding fields, woods and meadows, but including gardens and other areas around the building...
22019-09-14 22:19FrViPofm
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It sounds good... Go on !
73704991
by Janjko
@ 2019-08-24 21:05
12019-09-12 13:29dieterdreist Hi Janjko, I have noticed that you remove name tags from highway objects when there is a place=square object around, please do not do this. There is no inheritance from outer way tags to the relation, and while in theory it would be possible to inherit from place objects, for the current state it ba...
22019-09-12 13:32dieterdreist sorry for the noise, I take this back, as the highways (linear) still have their names it is probably not much damage (it could be an issue for pedestrian navigation if they route around the corners and there will be no name).
32019-09-14 08:03Janjko
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I remember never removing the way names, but I might have removed the pedestrian area one. You're right, those might be used as ways in the future.
54802650
by gionax
@ 2017-12-21 03:16
Active block
12019-09-03 10:27dieterdreist Hi, I just noticed you have moved the centre of Rome in this edit. Can you explain for what reason? There were good arguments for the former position, some years ago I have written about this in a diary post: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dieterdreist/diary/40727

Cheers,
dD
73871932
by LorenzoPesci
@ 2019-08-29 09:01
12019-08-29 11:09dieterdreist grazie per aver rimesso il duomo. Sarebbe ancora meglio ripristinare (revert) per non perdere lo storico (si fa per esempio con il plugin revert di josm)
22019-08-29 11:15LorenzoPesci
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Non ho la possibilità di usare Josm purtroppo.
Inoltre credo che ci siamo imprecisioni nell'allineamento degli oggetti dovute a Bing.
73782458
by jackthebest
@ 2019-08-27 07:49
12019-08-27 17:26dieterdreist Hi, it looks as if you added the junction roundabout tag to a lot of circular road crossings. How did you verify these are actually roundabouts?
22019-08-27 18:05kreuzschnabel
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I just did some spot checks and came across https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/685668359 which MOST CERTAINLY is NOT a roundabout, it’s just a turning loop. So, this CS should be reverted. Please do NOT add arbitrary tags just to eliminate Osmose warnings unless you know from local knowledge th...
32019-08-28 08:17woodpeck_repair
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This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 73827670 where the changeset comment is: revert un-discussed and buggy mechanical edit of suspected roundabouts
42019-08-28 08:21woodpeck
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Dear jackthebest, please refrain from making wide-ranging edits like that without looking at the individual object you're changing. Also, please choose better changeset comments - "fix" is not helpful, it doesn't tell people what your intention is. For example I looked at another...
52019-08-28 10:06jackthebest
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Sorry, the roundabout edit must be reverted! I haven't performer any checks on this. It's the result of an automated process test uploaded by mistake.
My bad.
36654620
by dieterdreist
@ 2016-01-18 11:49
12019-08-22 08:47Mateusz Konieczny
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Why you added fixme to https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4525461/history#map=19/41.90224/12.45692 rather than simply remove tagging for renderer?
22019-08-22 11:26dieterdreist I can’t recall, sorry
73202807
by malaerba
@ 2019-08-09 17:47
12019-08-17 21:34dieterdreist this is an semiautomatic undiscussed edit and should be reverted.
22019-08-17 21:51malaerba
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I do not know what you intend for semiautomatic edit, I did manually, and I was an activist in this kind of places. For sure they are not shops, you can not buy anything, you can not pay to fix your bike, but you find activists that help you to repair your bicycle. Or you can do it yourself. Sometim...
32019-08-17 22:03dieterdreist Hi malaerba, thank you for replying. I agree shop is suboptimal, we should develop a dedicated tag for this kind of feature. They are not bicycle repair stations because that's a different thing, see the description and picture here
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_re...
42019-08-17 22:15dieterdreist Semiautomated because you did a search and replace on a series of features. If you want to do this (basically change the established way of tagging in an area), you should discuss it before with the local community. I have now seen you just started to edit in OSM, welcome :)

In case you are not a...
52019-08-17 22:16malaerba
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In Italian they are ciclofficine (singular ciclofficina), but sometimes shops use the same word. That's the way I did not change all these poi in Rome. In English often, but not always and not everywhere they are called bikekitchens.
French veloatelier and ciclotaller in Spanish. Often the adj...
62019-08-17 22:18dieterdreist In general I agree that shop may not be the best solution, but the bike repair stations are a fundamentally different thing, they are some tools on a chain, publicly accessible at any time, typically. The ideal solution has yet to be proposed
72019-08-17 22:21malaerba
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OK, understood. And I agree. :)
82019-08-17 22:29dieterdreist Si , conosco bene le ciclofficine, ci sono stato svariate volte e ho degli amici che le gestiscono. Vivo a Roma.
68725671
by Micha Buettner
@ 2019-03-31 14:10
12019-07-30 00:49dieterdreist stimmt da war ein Fehler, aber im Namen, nicht in der Position. Bitte nicht leichtfertig Daten loeschen, lieber erstmal die Bearbeiter kontaktieren...
68725788
by Micha Buettner
@ 2019-03-31 14:14
12019-07-30 00:38dieterdreist Hi, I have noticed you changed the name of the park, what are your sources?
22019-07-30 00:44dieterdreist uebrigens, es gibt dort selbstverstaendlich Katakomben, daher der Name, nur sind die nicht oeffentlich zugaenglich.

Gruss,
Martin
71762733
by wambacher
@ 2019-06-30 18:42
12019-07-02 09:01waldhans
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Tut mir leid: die "Alte Süchtelner Landstr." ist der ganz offizielle Name. Das wurde auch deutlich markiert:

note = the abbreviation of the street name is correct and official
official_name = Alte Süchtelner Landstr.
official_name:de = Alte Süchtelner Landstr.\...
22019-07-02 10:16wambacher
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OSM stellt kein Kataster da. Und Abkürzungen - wo auch immer sie her kommen sollte - sind bei OSM nicht erwünscht: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Abbreviation_.28don.27t_do_it.29

Siehe auch das Forum https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=66578 wo ich das hier zur D...
32019-07-02 10:45dieterdreist sofern die Abkürzungen offiziell sind (d.h. im Benennungsakt der zuständigen Stellen, meist Gemeinderatsbeschluss, so aufgeführt sind), wäre official_name der richtige tag dafür. Im Zweifel lieber eine Variante mehr mappen, als sich einen Editwar über den Wert desselben...
42019-07-02 12:55waldhans
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OSM sollte aber die Realität abbilden, nicht irgendwelche Wunschträume. Wir hatten die Diskussion über diese Straße seit mehrere Jahren, die Stadt ändert den Namen nicht. Und dann ist die Wirklichkeit doch höher einzustufen als irgendwelche Wünsche von OSM.

off...
52019-07-02 13:53dieterdreist welche "offiziellen Daten"? Davon gibt es oft viele, entscheidend ist, dass es die relevanten offiziellen Daten sind, d.h. aus dem Akt der Straßenbenennung (normalerweise Stadtratsbeschluss). Alles andere ist dann davon abgeschrieben und ggf. transportieren sich Fehler und Ungenauigk...
62019-07-02 15:04waldhans
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Zu der Frage "Offiziell"
ja, wird in allen Amtsblättern so verwendet. Soweit ich weiß, wollte das Vermessungsamt Kreis Viersen eine Änderung, da sich auch ihre Geo-Software sie Schreibweise bemängelt. Aber die Stadt Viersen bleibt bisher hart. Online lässt sich...
72019-07-02 17:54dieterdreist Hallo Kurt Waldhans,
Überlebenswichtig ist das natürlich nicht für mich, wenn es Dir Spaß macht beim Amt zu recherchieren dann würde mich das Ergebnis interessieren, aber wenn das eher eine Pflicht wäre dann lass es sein.

mit freundlichem Gruß,
Martin Koppen...
71121661
by fayor
@ 2019-06-11 00:24
12019-06-23 21:36dieterdreist Ciao Fayor, ho notato che hai messo il nome facendo riferimento a una delibera del 2014. Mi potresti cortesemente indicare la fonte di questa modifica (dove la posso trovare)?


Grazie
22019-06-24 14:16fayor
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Ciao, non so a quale nome ti riferisci, per questo changeset ho visionato più di dieci delibere a partire dal 2012, di cui circa la metà del 2014. In ogni caso le trovi tutte sul sito del Comune di Comiso.
32019-07-01 11:22dieterdreist grazie per la risposta e scusami che ti rispondo tardi (sono stato fuori sede). Sarebbe veramente utilissimo spezzare gli edit secondo le fonti, così si potrebbe tenere traccia precisa delle modifiche e anche anni dopo qualcuno potrebbe verificare il tutto con facilità.
Per i nomi far...
42019-07-01 21:29fayor
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Ho messo numero e anno delle delibere in tutte le strade che hanno cambiato nome, così chiunque può verificare eventuali inesattezze.

Ti rispondo su Via Novella Parigini (way 473905479 che hai citato): con la delibera n. 13 del 2014 il comune di Comiso ha nominato questo tratto di s...
52019-07-02 00:01dieterdreist grazie, chiedo sinceramente scusa per la parola “approssimativo”. In effetti mi sembra un buon lavoro, a parte i nomi tolti alla rotatoria (metterei lo stesso nome della via che continua).
Ciao Martin
54825455
by ssav1977
@ 2017-12-21 20:37
12019-06-21 16:00dieterdreist Hi, I noticed you have remove the tag from the park relation object which declares the kind of relation (type=multipolygon). Was this on purpose?

Best regards,
Martin
62249485
by dktue
@ 2018-09-03 14:19
12019-06-21 09:19dieterdreist Hi DK,
habe gesehen dass Du amenity=hospital von der Nervenklinik entfernt hast, ich würde das dranlassen (auf dem Gesamtgelände der Klinik). Es gibt zwar auch Kliniken Tal, aber das bedeutet nicht dass die Nervenklinik nicht auch ein Krankenhaus (oder evtl eine Klinik) ist.
22019-06-21 12:51dktue
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Ich habe es bisher immer so gehandhabt: Das Gelände ist amenity=hospital und die Gebäude darauf building=hospital. So verfahre ich auch mit Schulen und Feuerwachen. Passt das in diesem Fall auch?
32019-06-21 14:59dieterdreist ja, so handhabe ich das auch. Evtl. ist mir das amenity=hospital am Geländer hier entgangen (weil OverpassAPI nicht funktioniert gerade)?
71294702
by Mannivu
@ 2019-06-16 07:41
12019-06-19 16:24dieterdreist Hello, I have noticed you have added an undocumented tag (crossing=marked). Is there a reason you were not using one of the established tags like crossing=uncontrolled, crossing=zebra etc.?
22019-06-19 16:34Mannivu
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Yes. Recently, using ID editor I've seen that the ID editor validator marks "crossing=zebra" as "Deprecated" tag and suggests "crossing=marked", so I've started using this kind of tag instead of "zebra"
32019-06-19 19:22dieterdreist Hi Mannivu, thank you for replying so fast, I just wanted to make you aware there is currently some discussion about iD sometimes not reflecting community consensus, often deliberately, here is a page in the wiki recently set up https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ID/Controversial_Decisions

There...
42019-06-19 19:50Mannivu
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Thank you for warning me. In the future I will use "zebra" for crossing.
70690458
by MLaure42
@ 2019-05-28 10:11
12019-06-04 11:47dieterdreist Hi, I have noticed you were using very unusual tagging on this gate. Please use access tags to tag the accessibility and do not abuse names for it. The name tag is only for names. You have also added a tourist information point on this gate. This is very unusual, and my guess is you did not intend t...